On Sat 06 Dec 2008 10:26:49p, SteveB told us...

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> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
> ...
>> SteveB wrote:
>>> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
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>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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>>>>>> "SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote in message
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>>>>>>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery).
>>>>>>> Would you care to share your recipes and food practices with
>>>>>>> regard to cholesterol, coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> My wife takes coumadin. The most important thing is to know what
>>>>>> foods affect it and be consistent with them. Green salads are OK
>>>>>> if you eat them in moderation two or three times a week, but if you
>>>>>> eat spinach every day for a week, then don't eat any for a month,
>>>>>> you will be out of whack for the PT test.
>>>>>>
>>>>> They put my mother back on coumadin while she was in the hospital.
>>>>> When she came home and I went over the list of (30!) meds they had
>>>>> her on (he wasn't the one who prescribed this madness) I pointed out
>>>>> spinach is one of the few things she'll eat. And she can't eat
>>>>> spinach if she's taking coumadin. He prescribed a low-dose aspirin
>>>>> instead. You do indeed have to be careful about food and drug
>>>>> interactions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>> He could have adjusted the dosage to accommodate the spinach.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Janet Wilder
>>>> Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
>>>> Good Friends. Good Life
>>>
>>> You, apparently are an uninformed person. Spinach is one of the top
>>> three things that one taking Coumadin can NOT eat.
>>>
>>> Where did you get your medical degree?
>>
>> I have a husband who has been taking coumadin for 7 years. His
>> cardiologist has told him that he doesn't have to avoid foods. He gets
>> his pro-time or INR checked every 3 to 4 weeks and the physician
>> adjusts his dosage.
>>
>> I don't have a medical degree, but my husband's physician has one. I'd
>> rather listen to a licensed cardiologist than you. YMMV
>>
>>
>> --
>> Janet Wilder
>> Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
>> Good Friends. Good Life
>
> Well, believe it or not, there are doctors out there who don't know what
> they are doing. Any doctor that tells his patient on coumadin that they
> don't have to avoid foods should be flipping burgers. Apparently your
> husband's cardiologist is one of those. But he's probably be crappy
> flipping burgers, too.
>
> I submit that if you get any information provided by the makers of
> Coumadin that there is a list of foods that people on coumadin should
> completely avoid, if not severely restrict their intake.
>
> I don't have a degree either, but have been going through this for
> fifteen years now, and have a brother and sister who have done the same.
> My sis is 1.5 years post transplant now, and had was the first woman in
> the United States to get a LVA.
>
> I do not know everything, but I really do know what I know.
>
> Steve
>
>
>

This is a pretty good reference regarding coumadin and vitamin K. It
includes specific information on the body's vitamin K requrements, the
recommendation of how much vitamin K should be consumed when taking
coumadin, and many of the foods that have high levels of vitamin K. In
general, the recommendation is consumption of no more than 60% of the DV
(daily value). Some of the foods listed contain 650% of the DV in a
serving.

Spinach, for example contains 560% of the DV in a 1/2 cup serving of cooked
spinach. It is No. 2 on the list of foods containing high amounts of
vitamin K. While it is not "forbidden", consumption of foods on the list
should be severely limited.

http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/cc/coumadin1.pdf

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
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> On Sat 06 Dec 2008 10:26:49p, SteveB told us...
>
>>
>> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> SteveB wrote:
>>>> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> "SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery).
>>>>>>>> Would you care to share your recipes and food practices with
>>>>>>>> regard to cholesterol, coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>> My wife takes coumadin. The most important thing is to know what
>>>>>>> foods affect it and be consistent with them. Green salads are OK
>>>>>>> if you eat them in moderation two or three times a week, but if you
>>>>>>> eat spinach every day for a week, then don't eat any for a month,
>>>>>>> you will be out of whack for the PT test.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> They put my mother back on coumadin while she was in the hospital.
>>>>>> When she came home and I went over the list of (30!) meds they had
>>>>>> her on (he wasn't the one who prescribed this madness) I pointed out
>>>>>> spinach is one of the few things she'll eat. And she can't eat
>>>>>> spinach if she's taking coumadin. He prescribed a low-dose aspirin
>>>>>> instead. You do indeed have to be careful about food and drug
>>>>>> interactions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>> He could have adjusted the dosage to accommodate the spinach.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Janet Wilder
>>>>> Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
>>>>> Good Friends. Good Life
>>>>
>>>> You, apparently are an uninformed person. Spinach is one of the top
>>>> three things that one taking Coumadin can NOT eat.
>>>>
>>>> Where did you get your medical degree?
>>>
>>> I have a husband who has been taking coumadin for 7 years. His
>>> cardiologist has told him that he doesn't have to avoid foods. He gets
>>> his pro-time or INR checked every 3 to 4 weeks and the physician
>>> adjusts his dosage.
>>>
>>> I don't have a medical degree, but my husband's physician has one. I'd
>>> rather listen to a licensed cardiologist than you. YMMV
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Janet Wilder
>>> Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
>>> Good Friends. Good Life
>>
>> Well, believe it or not, there are doctors out there who don't know what
>> they are doing. Any doctor that tells his patient on coumadin that they
>> don't have to avoid foods should be flipping burgers. Apparently your
>> husband's cardiologist is one of those. But he's probably be crappy
>> flipping burgers, too.
>>
>> I submit that if you get any information provided by the makers of
>> Coumadin that there is a list of foods that people on coumadin should
>> completely avoid, if not severely restrict their intake.
>>
>> I don't have a degree either, but have been going through this for
>> fifteen years now, and have a brother and sister who have done the same.
>> My sis is 1.5 years post transplant now, and had was the first woman in
>> the United States to get a LVA.
>>
>> I do not know everything, but I really do know what I know.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>
> This is a pretty good reference regarding coumadin and vitamin K. It
> includes specific information on the body's vitamin K requrements, the
> recommendation of how much vitamin K should be consumed when taking
> coumadin, and many of the foods that have high levels of vitamin K. In
> general, the recommendation is consumption of no more than 60% of the DV
> (daily value). Some of the foods listed contain 650% of the DV in a
> serving.
>
> Spinach, for example contains 560% of the DV in a 1/2 cup serving of
> cooked
> spinach. It is No. 2 on the list of foods containing high amounts of
> vitamin K. While it is not "forbidden", consumption of foods on the list
> should be severely limited.
>
> http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/cc/coumadin1.pdf

But how can this be so? Janet's husband's cardiologist told him that he
could eat anything.

Steve