SteveB wrote:
> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would you
>>>>> care to share your recipes and food practices with regard to
>>>>> cholesterol, coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>> My wife takes coumadin. The most important thing is to know what foods
>>>> affect it and be consistent with them. Green salads are OK if you eat
>>>> them in moderation two or three times a week, but if you eat spinach
>>>> every day for a week, then don't eat any for a month, you will be out of
>>>> whack for the PT test.
>>>>
>>> They put my mother back on coumadin while she was in the hospital. When
>>> she came home and I went over the list of (30!) meds they had her on (he
>>> wasn't the one who prescribed this madness) I pointed out spinach is one
>>> of the few things she'll eat. And she can't eat spinach if she's taking
>>> coumadin. He prescribed a low-dose aspirin instead. You do indeed have
>>> to be careful about food and drug interactions.
>>>
>>> Jill
>> He could have adjusted the dosage to accommodate the spinach.
>>
>> --
>> Janet Wilder
>> Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
>> Good Friends. Good Life
>
> You, apparently are an uninformed person. Spinach is one of the top three
> things that one taking Coumadin can NOT eat.
>
> Where did you get your medical degree?
>
> Steve
>
Well, actually we *do* tell our patients that they can have moderate
amounts of these vegetables as long as the consumption is consistent
and in routine amounts. The routine consumption of Vit K rich vegetables
will be accounted for in their routine labs. The problems come up when
people eat them only occasionally or eat far more or less than they have
been accustomed to.
Patients don't need to do any "adjusting" of their medicine to
accommodate the intake. The routine labs will show if their PT level is
therapeutic or not and the doctor will adjust the daily dose as needed.

"Goomba" > wrote in message
...
> SteveB wrote:
>> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> "SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would
>>>>>> you care to share your recipes and food practices with regard to
>>>>>> cholesterol, coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>> My wife takes coumadin. The most important thing is to know what
>>>>> foods affect it and be consistent with them. Green salads are OK if
>>>>> you eat them in moderation two or three times a week, but if you eat
>>>>> spinach every day for a week, then don't eat any for a month, you will
>>>>> be out of whack for the PT test.
>>>>>
>>>> They put my mother back on coumadin while she was in the hospital.
>>>> When she came home and I went over the list of (30!) meds they had her
>>>> on (he wasn't the one who prescribed this madness) I pointed out
>>>> spinach is one of the few things she'll eat. And she can't eat spinach
>>>> if she's taking coumadin. He prescribed a low-dose aspirin instead.
>>>> You do indeed have to be careful about food and drug interactions.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>> He could have adjusted the dosage to accommodate the spinach.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Janet Wilder
>>> Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
>>> Good Friends. Good Life
>>
>> You, apparently are an uninformed person. Spinach is one of the top
>> three things that one taking Coumadin can NOT eat.
>>
>> Where did you get your medical degree?
>>
>> Steve
> Well, actually we *do* tell our patients that they can have moderate
> amounts of these vegetables as long as the consumption is consistent and
> in routine amounts. The routine consumption of Vit K rich vegetables will
> be accounted for in their routine labs. The problems come up when people
> eat them only occasionally or eat far more or less than they have been
> accustomed to.
> Patients don't need to do any "adjusting" of their medicine to accommodate
> the intake. The routine labs will show if their PT level is therapeutic or
> not and the doctor will adjust the daily dose as needed.

So, are you a cardiologist? Janet said that her husband's cardiologist told
them there wasn't anything he needed to watch out for. Either foods or
portions.

Steve

SteveB wrote:

> So, are you a cardiologist? Janet said that her husband's cardiologist told
> them there wasn't anything he needed to watch out for. Either foods or
> portions.

I never wrote anything about portions, Steve. I think you are
over-reacting and probably adding a whole lot of personal whatever to
this thread.


--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
...
> SteveB wrote:
>
>> So, are you a cardiologist? Janet said that her husband's cardiologist
>> told them there wasn't anything he needed to watch out for. Either foods
>> or portions.
>
> I never wrote anything about portions, Steve. I think you are
> over-reacting and probably adding a whole lot of personal whatever to this
> thread.
>
>
> --
> Janet Wilder

No, just responding to your statements that your husband's cardiologist said
he had no foods he could not eat and no limits. Even though he takes
coumadin.

Steve

In article >,
"SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote:

> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
> ...
> > SteveB wrote:
> >
> >> So, are you a cardiologist? Janet said that her husband's cardiologist
> >> told them there wasn't anything he needed to watch out for. Either foods
> >> or portions.
> >
> > I never wrote anything about portions, Steve. I think you are
> > over-reacting and probably adding a whole lot of personal whatever to this
> > thread.

> No, just responding to your statements that your husband's cardiologist said
> he had no foods he could not eat and no limits. Even though he takes
> coumadin.

How about if we stop with the "he said she said"? It's easy enough to
look up what was said. Granted, it was a long time ago (last night):

"His
cardiologist has told him that he doesn't have to avoid foods"

That's what Janet posted. If anybody else can find anything else, go
for it.

If Steve's doctor says that there are three foods, including spinach,
that Steve shouldn't eat under any circumstances, then that's what Steve
should do.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message

>
> If Steve's doctor says that there are three foods, including spinach,
> that Steve shouldn't eat under any circumstances, then that's what Steve
> should do.

If he really wants to eat them, he should get a second opinion from Janet's
husband's cardiologist.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dan Abel" > wrote in message
>
>>
>> If Steve's doctor says that there are three foods, including spinach,
>> that Steve shouldn't eat under any circumstances, then that's what Steve
>> should do.
>
> If he really wants to eat them, he should get a second opinion from
> Janet's husband's cardiologist.

I think I will. I hate taking over 400 doses of meds every month. This is
going to save me a bunch of money. Think of all the things I can buy now
that I formerly considered bad for me. Wait, does that include good
bourbon, $3 Exacta tickets and topheavy women? Where can I find Dr.
Feelgood?

Steve ;-)

Goomba wrote:
> SteveB wrote:
>> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> "SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery).
>>>>>> Would you care to share your recipes and food practices with
>>>>>> regard to cholesterol, coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>> My wife takes coumadin. The most important thing is to know what
>>>>> foods affect it and be consistent with them. Green salads are OK
>>>>> if you eat them in moderation two or three times a week, but if you
>>>>> eat spinach every day for a week, then don't eat any for a month,
>>>>> you will be out of whack for the PT test.
>>>>>
>>>> They put my mother back on coumadin while she was in the hospital.
>>>> When she came home and I went over the list of (30!) meds they had
>>>> her on (he wasn't the one who prescribed this madness) I pointed out
>>>> spinach is one of the few things she'll eat. And she can't eat
>>>> spinach if she's taking coumadin. He prescribed a low-dose aspirin
>>>> instead. You do indeed have to be careful about food and drug
>>>> interactions.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>> He could have adjusted the dosage to accommodate the spinach.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Janet Wilder
>>> Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
>>> Good Friends. Good Life
>>
>> You, apparently are an uninformed person. Spinach is one of the top
>> three things that one taking Coumadin can NOT eat.
>>
>> Where did you get your medical degree?
>>
>> Steve
> Well, actually we *do* tell our patients that they can have moderate
> amounts of these vegetables as long as the consumption is consistent
> and in routine amounts. The routine consumption of Vit K rich vegetables
> will be accounted for in their routine labs. The problems come up when
> people eat them only occasionally or eat far more or less than they have
> been accustomed to.
> Patients don't need to do any "adjusting" of their medicine to
> accommodate the intake. The routine labs will show if their PT level is
> therapeutic or not and the doctor will adjust the daily dose as needed.
>
>
Thank you. That's what I've been trying to tell them.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life