Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would you care
to share your recipes and food practices with regard to cholesterol,
coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?

Thanks in advance.

Steve

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"SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote in message
...
> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would you
> care to share your recipes and food practices with regard to cholesterol,
> coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Steve

My wife takes coumadin. The most important thing is to know what foods
affect it and be consistent with them. Green salads are OK if you eat them
in moderation two or three times a week, but if you eat spinach every day
for a week, then don't eat any for a month, you will be out of whack for the
PT test.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>
> "SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote in message
> ...
>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would you
>> care to share your recipes and food practices with regard to cholesterol,
>> coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Steve
>
> My wife takes coumadin. The most important thing is to know what foods
> affect it and be consistent with them. Green salads are OK if you eat
> them in moderation two or three times a week, but if you eat spinach every
> day for a week, then don't eat any for a month, you will be out of whack
> for the PT test.
>

They put my mother back on coumadin while she was in the hospital. When she
came home and I went over the list of (30!) meds they had her on (he wasn't
the one who prescribed this madness) I pointed out spinach is one of the few
things she'll eat. And she can't eat spinach if she's taking coumadin. He
prescribed a low-dose aspirin instead. You do indeed have to be careful
about food and drug interactions.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would
>>> you care to share your recipes and food practices with regard to
>>> cholesterol, coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>
>> My wife takes coumadin. The most important thing is to know what
>> foods affect it and be consistent with them. Green salads are OK if
>> you eat them in moderation two or three times a week, but if you eat
>> spinach every day for a week, then don't eat any for a month, you will
>> be out of whack for the PT test.
>>
>
> They put my mother back on coumadin while she was in the hospital. When
> she came home and I went over the list of (30!) meds they had her on (he
> wasn't the one who prescribed this madness) I pointed out spinach is one
> of the few things she'll eat. And she can't eat spinach if she's taking
> coumadin. He prescribed a low-dose aspirin instead. You do indeed have
> to be careful about food and drug interactions.
>
> Jill

He could have adjusted the dosage to accommodate the spinach.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote:
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would you
>>>> care to share your recipes and food practices with regard to
>>>> cholesterol, coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>
>>> My wife takes coumadin. The most important thing is to know what foods
>>> affect it and be consistent with them. Green salads are OK if you eat
>>> them in moderation two or three times a week, but if you eat spinach
>>> every day for a week, then don't eat any for a month, you will be out of
>>> whack for the PT test.
>>>
>>
>> They put my mother back on coumadin while she was in the hospital. When
>> she came home and I went over the list of (30!) meds they had her on (he
>> wasn't the one who prescribed this madness) I pointed out spinach is one
>> of the few things she'll eat. And she can't eat spinach if she's taking
>> coumadin. He prescribed a low-dose aspirin instead. You do indeed have
>> to be careful about food and drug interactions.
>>
>> Jill
>
> He could have adjusted the dosage to accommodate the spinach.
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
> Good Friends. Good Life

You, apparently are an uninformed person. Spinach is one of the top three
things that one taking Coumadin can NOT eat.

Where did you get your medical degree?

Steve

"SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote
> You, apparently are an uninformed person. Spinach is one of the top three
> things that one taking Coumadin can NOT eat.
>
> Where did you get your medical degree?
>

Jeeze. You're cranky today.

SteveB wrote:
> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would you
>>>>> care to share your recipes and food practices with regard to
>>>>> cholesterol, coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>> My wife takes coumadin. The most important thing is to know what foods
>>>> affect it and be consistent with them. Green salads are OK if you eat
>>>> them in moderation two or three times a week, but if you eat spinach
>>>> every day for a week, then don't eat any for a month, you will be out of
>>>> whack for the PT test.
>>>>
>>> They put my mother back on coumadin while she was in the hospital. When
>>> she came home and I went over the list of (30!) meds they had her on (he
>>> wasn't the one who prescribed this madness) I pointed out spinach is one
>>> of the few things she'll eat. And she can't eat spinach if she's taking
>>> coumadin. He prescribed a low-dose aspirin instead. You do indeed have
>>> to be careful about food and drug interactions.
>>>
>>> Jill
>> He could have adjusted the dosage to accommodate the spinach.
>>
>> --
>> Janet Wilder
>> Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
>> Good Friends. Good Life
>
> You, apparently are an uninformed person. Spinach is one of the top three
> things that one taking Coumadin can NOT eat.
>
> Where did you get your medical degree?

I have a husband who has been taking coumadin for 7 years. His
cardiologist has told him that he doesn't have to avoid foods. He gets
his pro-time or INR checked every 3 to 4 weeks and the physician adjusts
his dosage.

I don't have a medical degree, but my husband's physician has one. I'd
rather listen to a licensed cardiologist than you. YMMV


--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

SteveB wrote:
> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would you
>>>>> care to share your recipes and food practices with regard to
>>>>> cholesterol, coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>> My wife takes coumadin. The most important thing is to know what foods
>>>> affect it and be consistent with them. Green salads are OK if you eat
>>>> them in moderation two or three times a week, but if you eat spinach
>>>> every day for a week, then don't eat any for a month, you will be out of
>>>> whack for the PT test.
>>>>
>>> They put my mother back on coumadin while she was in the hospital. When
>>> she came home and I went over the list of (30!) meds they had her on (he
>>> wasn't the one who prescribed this madness) I pointed out spinach is one
>>> of the few things she'll eat. And she can't eat spinach if she's taking
>>> coumadin. He prescribed a low-dose aspirin instead. You do indeed have
>>> to be careful about food and drug interactions.
>>>
>>> Jill
>> He could have adjusted the dosage to accommodate the spinach.
>>
>> --
>> Janet Wilder
>> Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
>> Good Friends. Good Life
>
> You, apparently are an uninformed person. Spinach is one of the top three
> things that one taking Coumadin can NOT eat.
>
> Where did you get your medical degree?
>
> Steve
>
Well, actually we *do* tell our patients that they can have moderate
amounts of these vegetables as long as the consumption is consistent
and in routine amounts. The routine consumption of Vit K rich vegetables
will be accounted for in their routine labs. The problems come up when
people eat them only occasionally or eat far more or less than they have
been accustomed to.
Patients don't need to do any "adjusting" of their medicine to
accommodate the intake. The routine labs will show if their PT level is
therapeutic or not and the doctor will adjust the daily dose as needed.

In article >,
Janet Wilder > wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
> > "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >> "SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would
> >>> you care to share your recipes and food practices with regard to
> >>> cholesterol, coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance.
> >>>
> >>> Steve
> >>
> >> My wife takes coumadin. The most important thing is to know what
> >> foods affect it and be consistent with them. Green salads are OK if
> >> you eat them in moderation two or three times a week, but if you eat
> >> spinach every day for a week, then don't eat any for a month, you will
> >> be out of whack for the PT test.
> >>
> >
> > They put my mother back on coumadin while she was in the hospital. When
> > she came home and I went over the list of (30!) meds they had her on (he
> > wasn't the one who prescribed this madness) I pointed out spinach is one
> > of the few things she'll eat. And she can't eat spinach if she's taking
> > coumadin. He prescribed a low-dose aspirin instead. You do indeed have
> > to be careful about food and drug interactions.
> >
> > Jill
>
> He could have adjusted the dosage to accommodate the spinach.

Uh, I think that's harder than you think. You'd have to have access to
constant lab testing.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> Janet Wilder > wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>> > "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >>
>> >> "SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would
>> >>> you care to share your recipes and food practices with regard to
>> >>> cholesterol, coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks in advance.
>> >>>
>> >>> Steve
>> >>
>> >> My wife takes coumadin. The most important thing is to know what
>> >> foods affect it and be consistent with them. Green salads are OK if
>> >> you eat them in moderation two or three times a week, but if you eat
>> >> spinach every day for a week, then don't eat any for a month, you will
>> >> be out of whack for the PT test.
>> >>
>> >
>> > They put my mother back on coumadin while she was in the hospital.
>> > When
>> > she came home and I went over the list of (30!) meds they had her on
>> > (he
>> > wasn't the one who prescribed this madness) I pointed out spinach is
>> > one
>> > of the few things she'll eat. And she can't eat spinach if she's
>> > taking
>> > coumadin. He prescribed a low-dose aspirin instead. You do indeed
>> > have
>> > to be careful about food and drug interactions.
>> >
>> > Jill
>>
>> He could have adjusted the dosage to accommodate the spinach.
>
> Uh, I think that's harder than you think. You'd have to have access to
> constant lab testing.
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity
> cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama



And at that point I wasn't about to limit what she could/would eat for sake
of coumadin. The daily low-dose aspirin accomplished the same thing. And
she could eat Stouffer's Spinach Souffle with impunity It was all about
making her comfortable, in the end. And she was comfortable. She died in
her own bed, at home, with someone who loved her by her side.

Jill

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> "SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote in message
> ...
>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would you
>> care to share your recipes and food practices with regard to cholesterol,
>> coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Steve
>
> My wife takes coumadin. The most important thing is to know what foods
> affect it and be consistent with them. Green salads are OK if you eat them
> in moderation two or three times a week, but if you eat spinach every day
> for a week, then don't eat any for a month, you will be out of whack for the
> PT test.
>
>
My DH takes it, too. His doctor told him not to drastically increase the
amount of vitamin K containing foods in his diet, but the doctor also
said that is incumbent upon the physician to make sure the patient has
frequent INR blood tests and and then adjust the patient's dosage
accordingly.

I downloaded the USDA nutrition guide and I check for vitamin K content
on things I'm not familiar with.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
>
> I downloaded the USDA nutrition guide and I check for vitamin K content on
> things I'm not familiar with.
>

I have two PDF files of the vitamin K of most any food. One is in
alphabetical order, the other by contend, descending order. Each is about
160kb. Email me if you want a copy of them.


--

They are 20 pages long. As you can see, greens aver very high.
Kale, frozen, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 130 1 cup 1146.6

11234 Kale, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 130 1 cup 1062.1

11164 Collards, frozen, chopped, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 170 1
cup 1059.4

11464 Spinach, frozen, chopped or leaf, cooked, boiled, drained, without
salt 190 1 cup 1027.3

11461 Spinach, canned, drained solids 214 1 cup 987.8

11458 Spinach, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 180 1 cup 888.5

Others are very low.

11205 Cucumber, with peel, raw 104 1 cup 17.1

09306 Raspberries, frozen, red, sweetened 250 1 cup 16.3

11135 Cauliflower, raw 100 1 cup 16.0

19087 Candies, white chocolate 170 1 cup 15.5

04135 Salad dressing, home recipe, vinegar and oil 15.6 1 tbsp 15.4

12147 Nuts, pine nuts, dried 28.35 1 oz 15.3

21138 Fast foods, potato, french fried in vegetable oil 134 1 medium 15.0

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
>>
>> I downloaded the USDA nutrition guide and I check for vitamin K content
>> on things I'm not familiar with.
>>
>
> I have two PDF files of the vitamin K of most any food. One is in
> alphabetical order, the other by contend, descending order. Each is about
> 160kb. Email me if you want a copy of them.

Ed, I prolly got them, being 6.5 years post CABG AVR now. But would
appreciate any info to add to my collection.



Steve

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
>> I downloaded the USDA nutrition guide and I check for vitamin K content on
>> things I'm not familiar with.
>>
>
> I have two PDF files of the vitamin K of most any food. One is in
> alphabetical order, the other by contend, descending order. Each is about
> 160kb. Email me if you want a copy of them.
>
>
Thank you. I will

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
...
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
>>> I downloaded the USDA nutrition guide and I check for vitamin K content
>>> on things I'm not familiar with.
>>>
>>
>> I have two PDF files of the vitamin K of most any food. One is in
>> alphabetical order, the other by contend, descending order. Each is about
>> 160kb. Email me if you want a copy of them.
>>
>>
> Thank you. I will
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
> Good Friends. Good Life

But Janet, I thought you said your husband's cardiologist said he could eat
anything. Now I am confused.

Steve

In article >,
"SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote:

> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would you care
> to share your recipes and food practices with regard to cholesterol,
> coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Steve

One comment only...

Atkins was a Cardiologist.
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Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "SteveB" <toquervilla@zionvistas> wrote:
>
>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would you
>> care
>> to share your recipes and food practices with regard to cholesterol,
>> coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Steve
>
> One comment only...
>
> Atkins was a Cardiologist.
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity
> cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Yep.....

AKA just fry the chicken and forget the batter.

:-)

Dimitri

From

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_..._(nutritionist)

Robert Coleman Atkins, MD (October 17, 1930 – April 17, 2003) was an
American physician and cardiologist, best known for the Atkins Nutritional
Approach (or "Atkins Diet"), a popular but controversial way of dieting that
entails close control of carbohydrate consumption, emphasizing protein and
fat intake, including saturated fat in addition to leaf vegetables and
dietary supplements.
Atkins graduated from the University of Michigan in 1951 and received a
medical degree from Weill Cornell Medical College in 1955, after which he
specialized in cardiology and complementary medicine.
On April 8, 2003, at age 72, Dr. Atkins slipped on the ice while walking to
work, hitting his head and causing bleeding around his brain. He lost
consciousness on the way to the hospital, where he spent two weeks in
intensive care. His death certificate states that the cause of death was
"blunt impact injury of head with epidural hematoma".[1]

In article >,
"Dimitri" > wrote:

> > One comment only...
> >
> > Atkins was a Cardiologist.
>
> Yep.....
>
> AKA just fry the chicken and forget the batter.
>
> :-)
>
> Dimitri

Exactly... Breading is more evil than the fat.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

SteveB wrote:
> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would you care
> to share your recipes and food practices with regard to cholesterol,
> coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Steve
>
Yeah, I'm 21 years off a single CABG, 14 years of three angioplasties,
and the same number of years diagnosed as diabetic. I don't take
coumadin and pretty much eat anything I want in moderation. I take
simvastin, generic Zocor, for chloesterol and it does a good job on 1.5
tablets per day.

As a side note, most males in my family line die of heart disease, at
least in the nine generations I'm sure of. GGrandfather at age 24,
Grandfather at 58, father at 71. One uncle at 33, another at 76, and one
is now 94 years old but not able to function much.

In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> SteveB wrote:
> > Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would you
> > care
> > to share your recipes and food practices with regard to cholesterol,
> > coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> Yeah, I'm 21 years off a single CABG, 14 years of three angioplasties,
> and the same number of years diagnosed as diabetic. I don't take
> coumadin and pretty much eat anything I want in moderation. I take
> simvastin, generic Zocor, for chloesterol and it does a good job on 1.5
> tablets per day.
>
> As a side note, most males in my family line die of heart disease, at
> least in the nine generations I'm sure of. GGrandfather at age 24,
> Grandfather at 58, father at 71. One uncle at 33, another at 76, and one
> is now 94 years old but not able to function much.

The question is, is it really genetics, or familial eating habits?
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> George Shirley > wrote:
>
>> SteveB wrote:
>>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would you
>>> care
>>> to share your recipes and food practices with regard to cholesterol,
>>> coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>> Yeah, I'm 21 years off a single CABG, 14 years of three angioplasties,
>> and the same number of years diagnosed as diabetic. I don't take
>> coumadin and pretty much eat anything I want in moderation. I take
>> simvastin, generic Zocor, for chloesterol and it does a good job on 1.5
>> tablets per day.
>>
>> As a side note, most males in my family line die of heart disease, at
>> least in the nine generations I'm sure of. GGrandfather at age 24,
>> Grandfather at 58, father at 71. One uncle at 33, another at 76, and one
>> is now 94 years old but not able to function much.
>
> The question is, is it really genetics, or familial eating habits?

All of my doctors, who look at the family history, say it is genetic.
After having my carotids reamed I believe them. Had been on Zocor for
many years when the carotids clogged up. Then there's the 42 Transient
Ischemic Attacks and the 4 major strokes since 2000, been eating healthy
since 1987. I'm still kicking but not as high as I used to. <G>

In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > George Shirley > wrote:
> >
> >> SteveB wrote:
> >>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would you
> >>> care
> >>> to share your recipes and food practices with regard to cholesterol,
> >>> coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance.
> >>>
> >>> Steve
> >>>
> >> Yeah, I'm 21 years off a single CABG, 14 years of three angioplasties,
> >> and the same number of years diagnosed as diabetic. I don't take
> >> coumadin and pretty much eat anything I want in moderation. I take
> >> simvastin, generic Zocor, for chloesterol and it does a good job on 1.5
> >> tablets per day.
> >>
> >> As a side note, most males in my family line die of heart disease, at
> >> least in the nine generations I'm sure of. GGrandfather at age 24,
> >> Grandfather at 58, father at 71. One uncle at 33, another at 76, and one
> >> is now 94 years old but not able to function much.
> >
> > The question is, is it really genetics, or familial eating habits?
>
> All of my doctors, who look at the family history, say it is genetic.
> After having my carotids reamed I believe them. Had been on Zocor for
> many years when the carotids clogged up. Then there's the 42 Transient
> Ischemic Attacks and the 4 major strokes since 2000, been eating healthy
> since 1987. I'm still kicking but not as high as I used to. <G>

Keep on keepin' on. :-)
I wish you well...

All I know is that I learned bad eating habits early on in life. Only
later, when I took an interest in it and started doing my homework, did
that change... I can't help but think that contributes.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

George Shirley wrote:
> Omelet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> George Shirley > wrote:
>>
>>> SteveB wrote:
>>>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would
>>>> you care to share your recipes and food practices with regard to
>>>> cholesterol, coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>> Yeah, I'm 21 years off a single CABG, 14 years of three
>>> angioplasties, and the same number of years diagnosed as diabetic. I
>>> don't take coumadin and pretty much eat anything I want in
>>> moderation. I take simvastin, generic Zocor, for chloesterol and it
>>> does a good job on 1.5 tablets per day.
>>>
>>> As a side note, most males in my family line die of heart disease, at
>>> least in the nine generations I'm sure of. GGrandfather at age 24,
>>> Grandfather at 58, father at 71. One uncle at 33, another at 76, and
>>> one is now 94 years old but not able to function much.
>>
>> The question is, is it really genetics, or familial eating habits?
>
> All of my doctors, who look at the family history, say it is genetic.
> After having my carotids reamed I believe them. Had been on Zocor for
> many years when the carotids clogged up. Then there's the 42 Transient
> Ischemic Attacks and the 4 major strokes since 2000, been eating healthy
> since 1987. I'm still kicking but not as high as I used to. <G>

I think genetics plays a very strong part, too, George. I have two
granddaughters ages 8 and 11 who have cholesterol numbers in the 300's
and eat a low cholesterol, lower refined carbohydrate diet. Their
mother, my daughter, gets high cholesterol from her dad. His father died
of heart disease. Despite a very healthy diet, I hover around the 200
mark, myself. I take Zetia but I don't think it does much as it clears
cholesterol from one's intestines before it is absorbed and I eat a diet
that is very low in cholesterol and saturated fats.

My granddaughters' father has high cholesterol, too and he and both of
his parents are on statins.

The girls are too young for medications, but diet doesn't seem to effect
their numbers at all. My BF's girls had the same problem and seemed to
outgrow it once they reached adulthood. I'm hoping that my grandgirls
will, too.

Poor things. Genetically they didn't have a chance.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

"Janet Wilder" > wrote
> The girls are too young for medications, but diet doesn't seem to effect
> their numbers at all. My BF's girls had the same problem and seemed to
> outgrow it once they reached adulthood. I'm hoping that my grandgirls
> will, too.
>
> Poor things. Genetically they didn't have a chance.
>
I'm really sorry to hear this. Happily, the statins work quite well, so they
are better off for having been born so recently, if that makes sense.

Janet Wilder wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
>> Omelet wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> George Shirley > wrote:
>>>
>>>> SteveB wrote:
>>>>> Any here who are post CABG (coronary artery bypass surgery). Would
>>>>> you care to share your recipes and food practices with regard to
>>>>> cholesterol, coumadin, et al? Other tips or practices?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I'm 21 years off a single CABG, 14 years of three
>>>> angioplasties, and the same number of years diagnosed as diabetic. I
>>>> don't take coumadin and pretty much eat anything I want in
>>>> moderation. I take simvastin, generic Zocor, for chloesterol and it
>>>> does a good job on 1.5 tablets per day.
>>>>
>>>> As a side note, most males in my family line die of heart disease,
>>>> at least in the nine generations I'm sure of. GGrandfather at age
>>>> 24, Grandfather at 58, father at 71. One uncle at 33, another at 76,
>>>> and one is now 94 years old but not able to function much.
>>>
>>> The question is, is it really genetics, or familial eating habits?
>>
>> All of my doctors, who look at the family history, say it is genetic.
>> After having my carotids reamed I believe them. Had been on Zocor for
>> many years when the carotids clogged up. Then there's the 42 Transient
>> Ischemic Attacks and the 4 major strokes since 2000, been eating
>> healthy since 1987. I'm still kicking but not as high as I used to. <G>
>
> I think genetics plays a very strong part, too, George. I have two
> granddaughters ages 8 and 11 who have cholesterol numbers in the 300's
> and eat a low cholesterol, lower refined carbohydrate diet. Their
> mother, my daughter, gets high cholesterol from her dad. His father died
> of heart disease. Despite a very healthy diet, I hover around the 200
> mark, myself. I take Zetia but I don't think it does much as it clears
> cholesterol from one's intestines before it is absorbed and I eat a diet
> that is very low in cholesterol and saturated fats.
>
> My granddaughters' father has high cholesterol, too and he and both of
> his parents are on statins.
>
> The girls are too young for medications, but diet doesn't seem to effect
> their numbers at all. My BF's girls had the same problem and seemed to
> outgrow it once they reached adulthood. I'm hoping that my grandgirls
> will, too.
>
> Poor things. Genetically they didn't have a chance.
>
My eldest grandson is now 28 yo. At age fourteen daughter took him to
doctor as he was lethargic and wouldn't do much. Blood tests showed his
triglycerides were over 800 and his total cholesterol was almost 400. A
severe diet and changes in his eating habits turned him around. Don't
know what his blood studies are nowadays but he's a driver for UPS,
works 60 hours a week driving and lugging big packages around and
appears to be in pretty good health at the moment. You're right, with
the wrong genetics our kids and later descendants don't stand a chance.