"Sheldon" > wrote in message
...
> Peter L. Pecker Puller wrote:
>> LassChanc writes:
>>
>> > Sorry, Peter. �I see it was a forgery. �Please accept my apology.
>>
>> No sweat.
>>
>> Please ignore my "stupid little ****" remark :-)
>>
>> > To the phony Peter
>>
>> It's name is bevan john kirkland.
>>
>> It used to be a nurse in Victoria, Australia........ before it was
>> sacked and de-registered for being a stalker.
>>
>> >---kindly eat shit and die, pondscum.
>>
>> One can only hope it does............
>
> You're such a wuss and a phoney, Peter. Were you truly sorry you'd
> ignore all the forgeries, but no, you enjoy the attention too much,
> the only attention you ever get in your vacuous morbid little
> existence. And you are no kind of special forces ahahahahahaha),
> absolutely not, no way, no how, you were never in the military, not
> any military, you are much too thin skinned and reactive to have ever
> experienced any military training. Peter, you are a spineless
> jellyfish, who is constrantly trolled becaue you are so easy and
> weak. And BTW, this is not a forgery, no one can forge yours truly.


I am the Great Cornholio! I can imposter anyone!
Are you threatening me?
I need TP for my bunghole!

Penmart01

On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:42:21 -0600, Damsel in dis Dress
> wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:56:22 +0100, (Victor Sack)
>wrote:
>
>>Why don't you use 40tude Dialog, an altogether better newsreader with
>>full x-face support, instead? See <http://www.40tude.com/dialog/> and
>><http://www.40tude.com/dialog/wiki/index.php/Main_Page>
>
>Okay, I've installed it, configured it, and downloaded new headers.
>All 75 of them. Ranging from March 7, 2006 to December 8, 2008. Agent
>grabbed a zillion headers. What's up?

Nevermind ... I found out how to view headers on this version of
Agent, so I'll stick with that. I've been using it for years. I
really regret upgrading, and no longer have the older version.

BTW, the error message that I'm getting with 40tude is "Connection
explicitly denied by NNTP server." I have it set up identically to
Agent. Weird.

Thanks for the help, Victor and Blinky.

Carol

Cheryl > wrote:

> "Victor Sack" > wrote...
>
> > ObFood: Wined chicken. The recipe is from _Pei Mei's Chinese Cook Book
> > Vol. 1_.
> >
> > Wined Chicken
> >
> > 2. Put chicken in a bowl, steam it over high heat about 25 minutes.
> >
> > 3. Remove chicken from bowl, let cool, then cut in 4 or 6 large pieces,
> > lay in a deep bowl.
> >
> > 4. Pour the chicken broth from the steamed bowl through a strainer into
> > the deep bowl. Add 1 C. of cold chicken stock and wine, mix by shaking
> > the bowl, cover and keep in refrigerator about one day. Turn the
> > chicken once after 6 hours.
>
> I don't understand the whole 2-bowl thing here.

You have to strain the chicken broth, to be used further, so a second
vessel is needed. Since chicken stock and wine are added, a deeper bowl
is used.

Victor

Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:

> Nevermind ... I found out how to view headers on this version of
> Agent, so I'll stick with that. I've been using it for years. I
> really regret upgrading, and no longer have the older version.

It looks like you can still download version 3.3 he
<ftp://ftp3.forteinc.com/pub/agent/english/agentenu330-846.exe>.

Still, you'll be missing by far the most important feature of any
self-respecting newsreader: x-faces. :-p Really, nowadays, a lot of
messages tend to contain little that is more entertaining or even
meaningful. Every little thing helps. Dialog is so much better... has
better filtering, too.

ObFood: Spicy fish slices. The recipe is from _Pei Mei's Chinese Cook
Book Vol. 1_.

Bubba

Spicy Fish Slices

1 1/2 lbs. fish meat (any white fish)
3 green onions
5 slices ginger
5 T. soysauce
1 T. wine
1/2 t. salt
4 T. sugar
1 1/2 C. boiling water
1 t. five spice powder (Wu hsiang fen)
5 C. oil

Procedu
1. Slice the fish meat in 1 1/2'' wide and 2 1/2'' long 1/2'' thick
slices (about 16 slices).

2. Crush green onion and ginger. Put in bowl with soysauce, wine and
salt. Marinate the fish slices with this mixture for about 3-4 hours.

3. Mix sugar and five spice powder in a bowl add boiling water to mix
well.

4. Heat oil very hot in frying pan, fry the fish until very dark (about
3 minutes). Remove the fish from pan and put in sugar mixture
immediately, soak about 3-4 minutes.

5. Remove the fish from sugar mixture and lay on platter. Let it cool
before serving.

NOTE:
A substitute for Five Spice Powder may be allspice.

C.D wrote:

> "Blinky the Shark" > wrote in message
> news
>> Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:56:22 +0100, (Victor Sack)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why don't you use 40tude Dialog, an altogether better newsreader with
>>>>full x-face support, instead? See <http://www.40tude.com/dialog/> and
>>>><http://www.40tude.com/dialog/wiki/index.php/Main_Page>
>>>
>>> Okay, I've installed it, configured it, and downloaded new headers. All
>>> 75
>>> of them. Ranging from March 7, 2006 to December 8, 2008. Agent grabbed
>>> a zillion headers. What's up?
>>
>> Great group for this, if no joy he news.software.readers. Drop my
>> name. Include "[dialog]" (without quotes) in your Subject header.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Blinky
>> Killing all posts from Google Groups
>> The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org Need a new
>> news feed? http://blinkynet.net/comp/newfeed.html
>>
>>
> blink is well thought of there.

Why, thank you.

The group - and its topic - is important to me.


--
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:26:54 -0500, C.D wrote:

> "Blinky the Shark" > wrote in message
> news
>> Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:56:22 +0100, (Victor Sack)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why don't you use 40tude Dialog, an altogether better newsreader with
>>>>full x-face support, instead? See <http://www.40tude.com/dialog/> and
>>>><http://www.40tude.com/dialog/wiki/index.php/Main_Page>
>>>
>>> Okay, I've installed it, configured it, and downloaded new headers. All
>>> 75
>>> of them. Ranging from March 7, 2006 to December 8, 2008. Agent grabbed a
>>> zillion headers. What's up?
>>
>> Great group for this, if no joy he news.software.readers. Drop my
>> name. Include "[dialog]" (without quotes) in your Subject header.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Blinky
>
> blink is well thought of there.

isn't blinky well thought of everywhere? well, with the exception of
certain schools of fish.

your pal,
blake

On 2008-12-14, Blinky the Shark > wrote:

> The group - and its topic - is important to me.

Yo, blinky.....

I tried 40news and don't like it. I'm gonna try slrn for windows xp. Got any
advice on an editor? Will slrn boot up notepad for editing?

nb

Sheldon wrote:

Peter L. Pecker Puller wrote:
> LassChanc writes:
>
> > Sorry, Peter. ?I see it was a forgery. ?Please accept my apology.
>
> No sweat.
>
> Please ignore my "stupid little ****" remark :-)
>
> > To the phony Peter
>
> It's name is bevan john kirkland.
>
> It used to be a nurse in Victoria, Australia........ before it was
> sacked and de-registered for being a stalker.
>
> >---kindly eat shit and die, pondscum.
>
> One can only hope it does............

You're such a wuss and a phoney, Peter. Were you truly sorry you'd
ignore all the forgeries, but no, you enjoy the attention too much,
the only attention you ever get in your vacuous morbid little
existence. And you are no kind of special forces ahahahahahaha),
absolutely not, no way, no how, you were never in the military, not
any military, you are much too thin skinned and reactive to have ever
experienced any military training. Peter, you are a spineless
jellyfish, who is constrantly trolled becaue you are so easy and
weak. And BTW, this is not a forgery, no one can forge yours truly.
------------

GM replies:

Yup, *exactly*...

And I don't know why the Oz govt. hasn't exiled PeterBreath Mucus to the
island of Nauru, it'd be the POIFECT abode for 'im...:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauru

"Nauru, officially the Republic of Nauru, is an island nation in the
Micronesian South Pacific. The nearest neighbour is Banaba Island in the
Republic of Kiribati, 300 km due east. Nauru is the world's smallest island
nation, covering just 21 km² (8.1 sq. mi), the smallest independent
republic, and the only republican state in the world without an official
capital.It is the least populous member of the United Nations

Nauru is a phosphate rock island, and its primary economic activity since
1907 has been the export of phosphate mined from the island. With the
exhaustion of phosphate reserves, its environment severely degraded by
mining, and the trust established to manage the island's wealth
significantly reduced in value, the government of Nauru has resorted to
unusual measures to obtain income. In the 1990s, Nauru briefly became a tax
haven and money laundering center. Since 2001, it has accepted aid from the
Australian government; in exchange for this aid, Nauru housed, until early
2008, an offshore detention centre that held and processed asylum seekers
trying to enter Australia.

Nauru was one of three great phosphate rock islands in the Pacific Ocean
(the others are Banaba (Ocean Island) in Kiribati and Makatea in French
Polynesia); however, the phosphate reserves are nearly depleted. Phosphate
mining in the central plateau has left a barren terrain of jagged limestone
pinnacles up to 15 m (49 ft) high. A century of mining has stripped and
devastated four-fifths of the land area. Mining has also had an impact on
the surrounding Exclusive Economic Zone with 40% of marine life considered
to have been killed by silt and phosphate runoff.

There are limited natural fresh water resources on Nauru. Roof storage tanks
collect rainwater, but islanders are mostly dependent on a single, aging
desalination plant. Nauru's climate is hot and extremely humid year-round,
because of the proximity of the land to the Equator and the ocean. The
island is affected by monsoonal rains between November and February. Annual
rainfall is highly variable and influenced by the El Niño-Southern
Oscillation, with several recorded droughts.[21] The temperature ranges
between 26 and 35 °C (79 and 95 °F) during the day and between 25 and 28 °C
(77 and 82 °F) at night. As an island nation, Nauru may be vulnerable to
climate and sea level change, but to what degree is difficult to predict; at
least 80% of the land area of Nauru is well elevated, but this area will be
uninhabitable until the phosphate mining rehabilitation program is
implemented.

There are only sixty recorded vascular plant species native to the island,
none of which are endemic. Coconut farming, mining and introduced species
have caused serious disturbance to the native vegetation. There are no
native land mammals; there are native birds, including the endemic Nauru
Reed Warbler, insects and land crabs. The Polynesian Rat, cats, dogs, pigs
and chickens have been introduced to the island.

There are limited natural fresh water resources on Nauru. Roof storage tanks
collect rainwater, but islanders are mostly dependent on a single, aging
desalination plant. Nauru's climate is hot and extremely humid year-round,
because of the proximity of the land to the Equator and the ocean. The
island is affected by monsoonal rains between November and February. Annual
rainfall is highly variable and influenced by the El Niño-Southern
Oscillation, with several recorded droughts. The temperature ranges between
26 and 35 °C (79 and 95 °F) during the day and between 25 and 28 °C (77 and
82 °F) at night. As an island nation, Nauru may be vulnerable to climate and
sea level change, but to what degree is difficult to predict; at least 80%
of the land area of Nauru is well elevated, but this area will be
uninhabitable until the phosphate mining rehabilitation program is
implemented.

There are only sixty recorded vascular plant species native to the island,
none of which are endemic. Coconut farming, mining and introduced species
have caused serious disturbance to the native vegetation. There are no
native land mammals; there are native birds, including the endemic Nauru
Reed Warbler, insects and land crabs. The Polynesian Rat, cats, dogs, pigs
and chickens have been introduced to the island.

Nauru currently lacks money to perform many of the basic functions of
government (the national Bank of Nauru is insolvent). GDP per capita has
fallen to only US$2,038, from its peak in the early 1980s of second in the
world, only after the United Arab Emirates.

There are no personal taxes in Nauru, and the government employs 95% of
those Nauruans who work; unemployment is estimated to be 90%. The Asian
Development Bank notes that although the administration has a strong public
mandate to implement economic reforms, in the absence of an alternative to
phosphate mining, the medium-term outlook is for continued dependence on
external assistance.

A traditional activity is catching noddy birds when they return from
foraging at sea. At sunset, men stand on the beach ready to throw their
lasso at the incoming birds. The Nauruan lasso is supple rope with a weight
at the end. When a bird approaches, the lasso is thrown up, hits or drapes
itself over the bird, and then falls to the ground. The captured noddies are
cooked and eaten..."

</>

On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:24:25 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:

> In article > ,
> PeterL > wrote:
>
>> Andy > wrote in :
>>
>>>
>>> You want our sympathy? You sound like you're one of a kind! GUESS WHAT!??
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>
>> Check the headers, and the x-face on *my* posts, then go back and look at
>> the forgers.
>>
>> *Then* take your foot out of your mouth, and open your eyes, you twit.....
>
> Just a quick note to say that very few people can see the X-face. Off
> the top of my head, I'd say less than 10%, although I'm really just
> guessing. Of course, we're the people who count!

i thought most 'serious' newsreaders strip that kind of crap out. i've
never seen one.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:24:25 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:
>
>> In article > ,
>> PeterL > wrote:
>>
>>> Andy > wrote in :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You want our sympathy? You sound like you're one of a kind! GUESS
>>>> WHAT!??
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>
>>> Check the headers, and the x-face on *my* posts, then go back and look
>>> at
>>> the forgers.
>>>
>>> *Then* take your foot out of your mouth, and open your eyes, you
>>> twit.....
>>
>> Just a quick note to say that very few people can see the X-face. Off
>> the top of my head, I'd say less than 10%, although I'm really just
>> guessing. Of course, we're the people who count!
>
> i thought most 'serious' newsreaders strip that kind of crap out. i've
> never seen one.
>
> your pal,
> blake

ya know...i used news xpress for years then xnews after it came out and
kinda looked and felt like newsx only a little better.
i've never in my life used an x face. i always thought they were kinda
silly.
xnews doesn't want to co-operate with me now so i started using live mail
and kinda like it.
once you get used to it and find it's features it does everything i need it
to do and "god bless that gates fella", works.
and since i never used xfaces before , don't miss them.

--
C.D

notbob wrote:

> On 2008-12-14, Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>
>> The group - and its topic - is important to me.
>
> Yo, blinky.....
>
> I tried 40news and don't like it. I'm gonna try slrn for windows xp. Got
> any advice on an editor? Will slrn boot up notepad for editing?

With slrn I use gvim with slrn issuing this command from my .slrnrc file.

set editor_command "gvim -f '+set tw=72' '%s'"

I don't know what text editor I'd use in Windows; my usual there is
EditPad (but I'm 99% Linux), but gvim (as vim and vi, etc.) is
programmable, which capability I used when doing slrn/gvim.

That said, I haven't used slrn in a while, though it was my primary news
client for years. slrn wizards live in the group I mentioned,
news.software.readers -- make a note to yourself about dropping by when
you run into the slrn new-user pains.


--
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notbob wrote:

> On 2008-12-14, Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>
>> The group - and its topic - is important to me.
>
> Yo, blinky.....
>
> I tried 40news and don't like it.

I think it's one of the best out there for Windows. I'm curious if you
tried it long enough to adequately get it configured for your way of doing
things and to get used to it not looking like the client you've probably
been using for years.

Gravity's pretty good. Might want to look at that.

For the record, I have, and use at least occasionally, these news clients...

Linux: slrn, Knode, Pan, XPN, Thunderbird. Windows: Xnews, Dialog,
Thunderbird, Gravity...and it seems like one more, but I don't have that
computer up right now.

I also have two local/proxy news servers (Hamster Playground in Windows;
leafnode in Linux), so that when I use Thunderbird, which has horribly
limited filtering capabilities, I can give it a PRE-filtered feed -- the
local server runs on my machines, acting as a middle-man between the
remote server and Thunderbird and doing the necessary filtering (of Google
Groups posts, which TB can't filter).

--
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Killing all posts from Google Groups
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In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:24:25 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:

> > Just a quick note to say that very few people can see the X-face. Off
> > the top of my head, I'd say less than 10%, although I'm really just
> > guessing. Of course, we're the people who count!
>
> i thought most 'serious' newsreaders strip that kind of crap out. i've
> never seen one.

They don't strip them out. They are just a header. News (and Email)
clients can do whatever they want with the headers, including completely
ignoring them. Most do (ignore X-face headers).

Here's some pictures, so you can see what they look like, along with the
headers to generate them. The headers are only a couple of lines:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~ace/X-Faces/

This is the wiki page that cites the above reference, and also gives a
list of clients that support X-face:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Face

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:26:37 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:

> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:24:25 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:
>
>>> Just a quick note to say that very few people can see the X-face. Off
>>> the top of my head, I'd say less than 10%, although I'm really just
>>> guessing. Of course, we're the people who count!
>>
>> i thought most 'serious' newsreaders strip that kind of crap out. i've
>> never seen one.
>
> They don't strip them out. They are just a header. News (and Email)
> clients can do whatever they want with the headers, including completely
> ignoring them. Most do (ignore X-face headers).
>
> Here's some pictures, so you can see what they look like, along with the
> headers to generate them. The headers are only a couple of lines:
>
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~ace/X-Faces/
>

that's about what i had imagined.

> This is the wiki page that cites the above reference, and also gives a
> list of clients that support X-face:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Face

40tude dialog is on that list, but i think i will pass.

thanks for the info.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:26:37 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:
>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Face
>
> 40tude dialog is on that list, but i think i will pass.

Click on the little plus sign in the upper left corner of your article
window.

Victor
who is posting this with 40tude Dialog

On 2008-12-14, Blinky the Shark > wrote:

> Linux: slrn, Knode, Pan, XPN, Thunderbird. Windows: Xnews, Dialog,
> Thunderbird, Gravity...and it seems like one more, but I don't have that
> computer up right now.

I just don't like 40tude. It's not intuitive. I tried to use gnus, but I
just can't get it to boot on emacs on this xp box. I've spent too much time
trying to figure out why, already. Screw it.

No variation of vi will ever again cross my fingertipss. vi is the heart of
evil!

nb

notbob wrote on Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:14:39 GMT:

>> Linux: slrn, Knode, Pan, XPN, Thunderbird. Windows: Xnews, Dialog,
>> Thunderbird, Gravity...and it seems like one more, but I
>> don't have that computer up right now.

> I just don't like 40tude. It's not intuitive. I tried to use
> gnus, but I just can't get it to boot on emacs on this xp box.
> I've spent too much time trying to figure out why, already.
> Screw it.

> No variation of vi will ever again cross my fingertipss. vi
> is the heart of evil!

I can remember how to use vi but I've forgotten how to use emacs at
least 3 times :-)

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On 2008-12-15, James Silverton > wrote:

> I can remember how to use vi but I've forgotten how to use emacs at
> least 3 times :-)

Oh, I can remember how to use vi! That's precisely why I don't.

nb

notbob wrote:

> On 2008-12-14, Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>
>> Linux: slrn, Knode, Pan, XPN, Thunderbird. Windows: Xnews, Dialog,
>> Thunderbird, Gravity...and it seems like one more, but I don't have that
>> computer up right now.
>
> I just don't like 40tude. It's not intuitive. I tried to use gnus, but I
> just can't get it to boot on emacs on this xp box. I've spent too much
> time trying to figure out why, already. Screw it.
>
> No variation of vi will ever again cross my fingertipss. vi is the heart
> of evil!

'Toon...

http://blinkynet.net/comp/ndx_linux.html#viman


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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:14:39 GMT, notbob wrote:

> On 2008-12-14, Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>
>> Linux: slrn, Knode, Pan, XPN, Thunderbird. Windows: Xnews, Dialog,
>> Thunderbird, Gravity...and it seems like one more, but I don't have that
>> computer up right now.
>
> I just don't like 40tude. It's not intuitive. I tried to use gnus, but I
> just can't get it to boot on emacs on this xp box. I've spent too much time
> trying to figure out why, already. Screw it.
>

i didn't find the switch from agent to 40tude difficult at all. i guess it
depends on what you're used to.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:39:58 +0100, Victor Sack wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:26:37 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:
>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Face
>>
>> 40tude dialog is on that list, but i think i will pass.
>
> Click on the little plus sign in the upper left corner of your article
> window.
>
> Victor
> who is posting this with 40tude Dialog

ah. i take it you don't use one, since i didn't see it on your post.
thanks for the info, though.

your pal,
blake