I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
over a year past. Are they still safe to eat? I know they may not be
the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
out?

wrote:
>
> I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
> the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
> The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
> over a year past. Are they still safe to eat? I know they may not be
> the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
> out?

Just open and do several "tests". First, do the "sniff test" and if it
passes, the continued to the "sample test taste". If it passes that
sencond test for taste, then gopherit! Third test is wait & see if wise
to continue consumption.

Sky, who assumes no liability for mentioning above 'tests'! <G>

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice

> wrote in message
...
>I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
> the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
> The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
> over a year past. Are they still safe to eat? I know they may not be
> the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
> out?

Dump it!

wrote:
> I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
> the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
> The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
> over a year past. Are they still safe to eat? I know they may not be
> the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
> out?


I wouldn't eat it. I'm pretty paranoid about stuff. However, even if
it won't kill you, chances are it probably won't taste very good anyways.

I'd pitch it and replace it if you're really craving sausage n cheese.

wrote:
> I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
> the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
> The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
> over a year past. Are they still safe to eat? I know they may not be
> the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
> out?


They should be fine, but trust your nose.

Bob

" > wrote:

> I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
> the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.

You need to stop right there and don't even think about picking up
the keyboard.

What do YOU think you should do with it?

-sw

zxcvbob > wrote:

> wrote:
>> I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
>> the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
>> The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
>> over a year past. Are they still safe to eat? I know they may not be
>> the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
>> out?
>
> They should be fine, but trust your nose.

You gotta love Usenet.

2 posts say eat it, 2 posts say throw it away.

If you wait until morning the number of posts may even out.

-sw

The message >
from Sqwertz > contains these words:

> zxcvbob > wrote:

> > wrote:
> >> I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
> >> the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
> >> The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
> >> over a year past. Are they still safe to eat? I know they may not be
> >> the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
> >> out?
> >
> > They should be fine, but trust your nose.

> You gotta love Usenet.

> 2 posts say eat it, 2 posts say throw it away.

> If you wait until morning the number of posts may even out.

Surely this calls for a discussion and closer examination of the OP's
nose?

Anyone who is a medical nasal specialist, lost their nose in a tragic
accident, or is a blood relative of Pinocchio, should post NOW.


Janet

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> zxcvbob > wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>> I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
>>> the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
>>> The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
>>> over a year past. Are they still safe to eat? I know they may not be
>>> the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
>>> out?
>>
>> They should be fine, but trust your nose.
>
> You gotta love Usenet.
>
> 2 posts say eat it, 2 posts say throw it away.
>
> If you wait until morning the number of posts may even out.
>
> -sw

I'd probably eat the cheese if it was not moldy, but toss the meat. Sorry
to upset the score.

"djs0 wrote:
> I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
> the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
> The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
> over a year past. �Are they still safe to eat? �I know they may not be
> the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
> out?

"Best used by" dates don't mean expired like "sell by" dates.

Only a year past is nothing... those Hickory Farms products are so
well embalmed they should outlast the pyramids... as long as the
wrapping isn't violated and you don't see furry mold sprouting and/or
maggots squirming it should be as good as the day you brought it home
(maybe better). You even had it refrigerated, they don't refrigerate
at the Hickory Farms stores. That sausage and cheese should be at
least as good as the Slim Jims and Laughing Cow you see at rural
hillybilly gas station convenience stores, and those could be sittin'
out on the counter some twenty years and truckers and banjo pluckers
gorge on it with impunity. That kind of processed cheese and dry
sausage is very salty and has a very low moisture content, it's
actually preserved, and is meant to be aged. The "best used by" date
is a reminder to consume before it becomes so dehydrated it becomes
petrified and you can't chew it. ENJOY!

wrote:
> I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
> the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
> The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
> over a year past. Are they still safe to eat? I know they may not be
> the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
> out?

Yes, they are safe and probably no taste difference. Those items come
cryovac'ed (sp?)and good for a year at normal temperatures. Cheese in
normal life used to be aged for several years before eating. I'm assuming
the sausage is a summer sausage or the like and not a raw meat product. As
long as it has been frozen, it is good as well.
Janet

Sky wrote:

> Just open and do several "tests". First, do the "sniff test" and if it
> passes, the continued to the "sample test taste". If it passes that
> sencond test for taste, then gopherit! Third test is wait & see if wise
> to continue consumption.
>
> Sky, who assumes no liability for mentioning above 'tests'! <G>

I once got a dose of food poisoning from a meal I found in the
restaurant in the store where I worked. I never smelled anything odd,
and everything tasted fine.... as good as I could have expected from
that greasy spoon. That evening I was so sick I thought i was going to
die. After I puked up all the food in my system I continued to retch for
another 5 hours. You have to try that some time to understand how
horrible and experience it is. I thought my guts were turning inside out.

If there is a chance of catching anything like that again I pitch the food.

"Janet Baraclough" > wrote in message
...
> The message >
> from Sqwertz > contains these words:
>
>> zxcvbob > wrote:
>
>> > wrote:
>> >> I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
>> >> the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
>> >> The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
>> >> over a year past. Are they still safe to eat? I know they may not be
>> >> the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
>> >> out?
>> >
>> > They should be fine, but trust your nose.
>
>> You gotta love Usenet.
>
>> 2 posts say eat it, 2 posts say throw it away.
>
>> If you wait until morning the number of posts may even out.
>
> Surely this calls for a discussion and closer examination of the OP's
> nose?
>
> Anyone who is a medical nasal specialist, lost their nose in a tragic
> accident, or is a blood relative of Pinocchio, should post NOW.
>
>
> Janet



LOL I'd have to wonder why the OP put it in the bottom of a refrigerator in
the basement and wonders about it *now*. Obviously they didn't want this
Hickory Farms gift pack thing or it wouldn't have been relegated to the
basement a year ago. Toss it out, who's going to know?

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> LOL I'd have to wonder why the OP put it in the bottom of a refrigerator
> in the basement and wonders about it *now*. Obviously they didn't want
> this Hickory Farms gift pack thing or it wouldn't have been relegated to
> the basement a year ago. Toss it out, who's going to know?
>
> Jill



Maybe they could still "regift" it? ;-)

Bob

On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:46:41 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
>the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
>The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
>over a year past. Are they still safe to eat? I know they may not be
>the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
>out?

I'd toss it. It's not going to be very nice a year after the sell-by
date...

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> zxcvbob > wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>> I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
>>> the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
>>> The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
>>> over a year past. Are they still safe to eat? I know they may not be
>>> the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
>>> out?
>>
>> They should be fine, but trust your nose.
>
> You gotta love Usenet.
>
> 2 posts say eat it, 2 posts say throw it away.
>
> If you wait until morning the number of posts may even out.

If you live until morning. Toss it.

Felice

On Jan 5, 11:46*pm, " > wrote:
> I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
> the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
> The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
> over a year past. *Are they still safe to eat? *I know they may not be
> the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
> out?

It's unlikely there's anything wrong with them - how can cheese go
bad, anyway, unless it's cream cheese? Harder cheeses - just scrape
the mold off, and chomp away.

Sausages like that have so many preservatives in them, they likely
will be good forever. If it looks good, smells good, it's likely
good.

N.

On Jan 6, 8:35*am, Dave Smith >
wrote:
> Sky wrote:
> > Just open and do several "tests". *First, do the "sniff test" and if it
> > passes, the continued to the "sample test taste". *If it passes that
> > sencond test for taste, then gopherit! *Third test is wait & see if wise
> > to continue consumption.
>
> > Sky, who assumes no liability for mentioning above 'tests'! <G>
>
> I once got a dose of food poisoning from a meal I found in the
> restaurant in the store where I worked. I never smelled anything odd,
> and everything tasted fine.... as good as I could have expected from
> that greasy spoon. *That evening I was so sick I thought i was going to
> die. After I puked up all the food in my system I continued to retch for
> another 5 hours. *You have to try that some time to understand how
> horrible and experience it is. I thought my guts were turning inside out.
>
> If there is a chance of catching anything like that again I pitch the food.

Your food poisoning likely did not come from old cheese or sausage of
the summer-sausage type. Most restaurant food poisoning comes from
eggs or products made with eggs that sit out too long, or fresh meat
(especially chicken) gone bad or not cooked properly.

N.

On Jan 6, 12:00*pm, Nancy2 > wrote:
> On Jan 5, 11:46*pm, " > wrote:
>
> > I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
> > the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
> > The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
> > over a year past. *Are they still safe to eat? *I know they may not be
> > the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
> > out?
>
> It's unlikely there's anything wrong with them - how can cheese go
> bad, anyway, unless it's cream cheese? *Harder cheeses - just scrape
> the mold off, and chomp away.
>
> Sausages like that have so many preservatives in them, they likely
> will be good forever. *If it looks good, smells good, it's likely
> good.
>
> N.

And to add to this: I had a tub of flavored spreadable cheese,
unopened, that I finally did open after more than 2 years, and it was
really good - nothing at all wrong with it. It had been in the fridge
the whole time.

N.

Nancy2 > wrote:
> On Jan 5, 11:46*pm, " > wrote:
>
> > I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
> > the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
> > The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
> > over a year past. *Are they still safe to eat? *I know they may not be
> > the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
> > out?
>
> It's unlikely there's anything wrong with them - how can cheese go
> bad, anyway, unless it's cream cheese? *Harder cheeses - just scrape
> the mold off, and chomp away.

That's not true. The part of the mold you can actually see at the
surface is less than 10 pct of the total... all you are seeing is the
fruiting bodies (like mushrooms), the vast majority consists of the
mycelium that spreads deep within the food. Now some molds are not
harmful and are even part and parcel to the cheese (roquefort), but
unless you know with certainty that the mold on your cheese (any food)
appeared within only a day or two then it's too late to cut it away,
and if you try all you'll accomplish is to spread the mold (it's a
good idea to learn how to properly handle/store cheese), and do not
scrape away mold, cut it away with a clean sharp knife, being sure to
cut at least 1/2" deep. Don't attempt to salvage moldy bread (or any
food) lest you spread the spores all over your environment so they can
more readily invade other foods, just pick it up gently, wrappings and
all, and put it in the trash, and then seriously clean the storage
area. It's a good idea to never touch cheese with your fingers,
handle by picking up by the original packaging or if rewrapped change
that wrapping often. Cheese is best kept in a glass covered dish in
the fridge, wash that dish often, do not place fresh cheese in your
cheese dish without washing it first, never reuse wrappings. Some
people, especially the very young, the elderly and any with
compromised immune systems may be very susceptible to serious illness
and even death from ingesting mold... with molds, when in doubt throw
it out.


M-W

my·ce·li·um
noun
Etymology: New Latin, from myc- + Greek hçlos nail, wart, callus
Date: 1836
: the mass of interwoven filamentous hyphae that forms especially the
vegetative portion of the thallus of a fungus and is often submerged
in another body (as of soil or organic matter or the tissues of a
host) ; also : a similar mass of filaments formed by some bacteria (as
streptomyces)
---

In article > ,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> Sky wrote:
>
> > Just open and do several "tests". First, do the "sniff test" and if it
> > passes, the continued to the "sample test taste". If it passes that
> > sencond test for taste, then gopherit! Third test is wait & see if wise
> > to continue consumption.
> >
> > Sky, who assumes no liability for mentioning above 'tests'! <G>
>
> I once got a dose of food poisoning from a meal I found in the
> restaurant in the store where I worked. I never smelled anything odd,
> and everything tasted fine.... as good as I could have expected from
> that greasy spoon. That evening I was so sick I thought i was going to
> die. After I puked up all the food in my system I continued to retch for
> another 5 hours. You have to try that some time to understand how
> horrible and experience it is. I thought my guts were turning inside out.
>
> If there is a chance of catching anything like that again I pitch the food.

I learned the hard way too that Salmonella has no bad smell or flavor.
;-)

If in doubt anymore, I toss it out.

$20.00 or less worth of food is not worth the $100.00 ER co-pay, nor
three days of not being able to keep anything down but water.

The cheese is probably fine if it's not moldy, but I'd toss the meat.

But that's just me.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

"Felice" > wrote
>> If you wait until morning the number of posts may even out.
>
> If you live until morning. Toss it.
>

I don't understand why anyone wants to eat old food. Ever. Whether it is
good or not. "Aged" crap aside, smartasses. And no, I am not talking about
the stew that is better the second day. I am talking YEAR OLD SAUSAGES.

cybercat wrote:
> "Felice" > wrote
>>> If you wait until morning the number of posts may even out.
>>
>> If you live until morning. Toss it.
>>
>
> I don't understand why anyone wants to eat old food. Ever. Whether it
> is good or not. "Aged" crap aside, smartasses. And no, I am not
> talking about the stew that is better the second day. I am talking
> YEAR OLD SAUSAGES.

You must mean jerky as well.
Janet

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
m...
> cybercat wrote:
>> "Felice" > wrote
>>>> If you wait until morning the number of posts may even out.
>>>
>>> If you live until morning. Toss it.
>>>
>>
>> I don't understand why anyone wants to eat old food. Ever. Whether it
>> is good or not. "Aged" crap aside, smartasses. And no, I am not
>> talking about the stew that is better the second day. I am talking
>> YEAR OLD SAUSAGES.
>
> You must mean jerky as well.
> Janet

There is always one in a crowd. Jerky indeed.

cybercat wrote:
> "Felice" > wrote
>>> If you wait until morning the number of posts may even out.
>> If you live until morning. Toss it.
>>
>
> I don't understand why anyone wants to eat old food. Ever. Whether it is
> good or not. "Aged" crap aside, smartasses. And no, I am not talking about
> the stew that is better the second day. I am talking YEAR OLD SAUSAGES.
>

What's the problem with YEAR OLD SAUSAGES? The meat is cured and
probably acidified, and lasts for a very long time -- just like Sheldon
said (I don't get to say that very often.)

Bob

"Kajikit" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:46:41 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
>>I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
>>the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
>>The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
>>over a year past. Are they still safe to eat? I know they may not be
>>the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
>>out?
>
> I'd toss it. It's not going to be very nice a year after the sell-by
> date...

Hey, according to some people, if it has been in the refrigerator, it's
good. I wouldn't eat it, though.

Steve

On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:03:05 -0600, Sky >
wrote:

wrote:
>>
>> I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
>> the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
>> The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
>> over a year past. Are they still safe to eat? I know they may not be
>> the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
>> out?
>
>Just open and do several "tests". First, do the "sniff test" and if it
>passes, the continued to the "sample test taste". If it passes that
>sencond test for taste, then gopherit! Third test is wait & see if wise
>to continue consumption.
>
>Sky, who assumes no liability for mentioning above 'tests'! <G>

You left out the "How hungry am I?" test and the "Is there ANYTHING
else around here to eat?" test.
--
modom

ambitious when it comes to fiddling with meat

Sky wrote:
> wrote:
>> I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
>> the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
>> The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
>> over a year past. Are they still safe to eat? I know they may not be
>> the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
>> out?
>
> Just open and do several "tests". First, do the "sniff test" and if it
> passes, the continued to the "sample test taste". If it passes that
> sencond test for taste, then gopherit! Third test is wait & see if wise
> to continue consumption.
>
> Sky, who assumes no liability for mentioning above 'tests'! <G>
>


You forgot the sight test--make sure it's not green/moldy.

gloria p

"Gloria P" > wrote in message
...
> Sky wrote:
>> wrote:
>>> I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
>>> the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
>>> The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
>>> over a year past. Are they still safe to eat? I know they may not be
>>> the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
>>> out?
>>
>> Just open and do several "tests". First, do the "sniff test" and if it
>> passes, the continued to the "sample test taste". If it passes that
>> sencond test for taste, then gopherit! Third test is wait & see if wise
>> to continue consumption.
>>
>> Sky, who assumes no liability for mentioning above 'tests'! <G>
>>
>
>
> You forgot the sight test--make sure it's not green/moldy.
>

And the IQ test, which the OP failed by not simply tossing the crap when he
found it.

Nancy2 wrote:

>> If there is a chance of catching anything like that again I pitch the food.
>
> Your food poisoning likely did not come from old cheese or sausage of
> the summer-sausage type. Most restaurant food poisoning comes from
> eggs or products made with eggs that sit out too long, or fresh meat
> (especially chicken) gone bad or not cooked properly.


My food poisoning was from a chili dog. I don't think there was any egg
in it. All I can say is once bitten a thousand times shy. I am not
talking about a mild case of puking and the trots. This was a case of
puking my guts out and spending 5 hours hunched over a toilet retching.
that was 40 years ago and I still cringe when I think about how
horrible it was. I don't ever want to be that sick again.

In article >,
"SteveB" > wrote:

> "Kajikit" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:46:41 -0800 (PST), "
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>I found a storage bag in the bottom of our old refrigerator down in
> >>the basement that had some Hickory Farms cheeses and sausages in it.
> >>The packages have never been opened but the "Best by" dates are well
> >>over a year past. Are they still safe to eat? I know they may not be
> >>the "Best" quality but does that actually mean they have to be thrown
> >>out?
> >
> > I'd toss it. It's not going to be very nice a year after the sell-by
> > date...
>
> Hey, according to some people, if it has been in the refrigerator, it's
> good. I wouldn't eat it, though.
>
> Steve

One has to ask themselves, is the value of the food worth the price of
an Emergency Room visit?
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
m...
> Nancy2 wrote:
>
>>> If there is a chance of catching anything like that again I pitch the
>>> food.
>>
>> Your food poisoning likely did not come from old cheese or sausage of
>> the summer-sausage type. Most restaurant food poisoning comes from
>> eggs or products made with eggs that sit out too long, or fresh meat
>> (especially chicken) gone bad or not cooked properly.
>
>
> My food poisoning was from a chili dog. I don't think there was any egg in
> it. All I can say is once bitten a thousand times shy. I am not talking
> about a mild case of puking and the trots. This was a case of puking my
> guts out and spending 5 hours hunched over a toilet retching. that was 40
> years ago and I still cringe when I think about how horrible it was. I
> don't ever want to be that sick again.
>

Most people who have had real food poisoning seem to feel this way.

On Jan 6, 1:01�pm, Nancy2 > wrote:
> On Jan 6, 8:35�am, Dave Smith >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Sky wrote:
> > > Just open and do several "tests". �First, do the "sniff test" and if it
> > > passes, the continued to the "sample test taste". �If it passes that
> > > sencond test for taste, then gopherit! �Third test is wait & see if wise
> > > to continue consumption.
>
> > > Sky, who assumes no liability for mentioning above 'tests'! <G>
>
> > I once got a dose of food poisoning from a meal I found in the
> > restaurant in the store where I worked. I never smelled anything odd,
> > and everything tasted fine.... as good as I could have expected from
> > that greasy spoon. �That evening I was so sick I thought i was going to
> > die. After I puked up all the food in my system I continued to retch for
> > another 5 hours. �You have to try that some time to understand how
> > horrible and experience it is. I thought my guts were turning inside out.

In article
>,
Sheldon > wrote:

> On Jan 6, 1:01?pm, Nancy2 > wrote:
> > On Jan 6, 8:35?am, Dave Smith >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Sky wrote:
> > > > Just open and do several "tests". ?First, do the "sniff test" and if it
> > > > passes, the continued to the "sample test taste". ?If it passes that
> > > > sencond test for taste, then gopherit! ?Third test is wait & see if
> > > > wise
> > > > to continue consumption.
> >
> > > > Sky, who assumes no liability for mentioning above 'tests'! <G>
> >
> > > I once got a dose of food poisoning from a meal I found in the
> > > restaurant in the store where I worked. I never smelled anything odd,
> > > and everything tasted fine.... as good as I could have expected from
> > > that greasy spoon. ?That evening I was so sick I thought i was going to
> > > die. After I puked up all the food in my system I continued to retch for
> > > another 5 hours. ?You have to try that some time to understand how
> > > horrible and experience it is. I thought my guts were turning inside out.
> >
> > > If there is a chance of catching anything like that again I pitch the
> > > food.
> >
> > Your food poisoning likely did not come from old cheese or sausage of
> > the summer-sausage type. ?Most restaurant food poisoning comes from
> > eggs or products made with eggs that sit out too long, or fresh meat
> > (especially chicken) gone bad or not cooked properly.
>
> That's not true. the sources for most cases of food poisoning
> contracted at restaurants is from tossed salads (number 1 by far),
> ground beef, seafood, and cold cuts. It's extremely rare anyone gets
> sick from eggs at restaurants... it's very rare that any restaurant
> prepares eggs in ways that are prone to spoilage such as egg salad/
> deviled eggs.. I've never seen either on a restaurant menu.
> Restaurants prepare eggs to order, typically fried and served
> immediately. It's extremely rare to find fresh eggs in the US anymore
> that are contaminated with salmonella unless from a small private
> family run operation that typically foregoes modern inspection...
> restaurants don't buy those eggs and neither should you.

Sheldon is correct.

By far, the majority of documented commercial food poisonings have come
from salads and undercooked beef.

Privately is another matter. ;-) A classic from picnics is potato
salad...

with eggs or egg based dressings!
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

On Jan 7, 11:12�am, Dave Smith
> wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
> >> If there is a chance of catching anything like that again I pitch the food.
>
> > Your food poisoning likely did not come from old cheese or sausage of
> > the summer-sausage type. �Most restaurant food poisoning comes from
> > eggs or products made with eggs that sit out too long, or fresh meat
> > (especially chicken) gone bad or not cooked properly.
>
> My food poisoning was from a chili dog.
> I don't think there was any egg in it.

Most likely from the hot dog... the ground meat in chili is usually
very well cooked but hot dogs are very often undercooked. Could also
get food poisoning from some toppings, raw onion is a major culprit...
it's best not to eat pre-prepared raw onion in restaurants.. you can
get sick from raw onions at home too if cut and saved in the fridge...
once cut an onion should be used immediately or tossed.

On Jan 7, 10:12*am, Dave Smith
> wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
> >> If there is a chance of catching anything like that again I pitch the food.
>
> > Your food poisoning likely did not come from old cheese or sausage of
> > the summer-sausage type. *Most restaurant food poisoning comes from
> > eggs or products made with eggs that sit out too long, or fresh meat
> > (especially chicken) gone bad or not cooked properly.
>
> My food poisoning was from a chili dog. I don't think there was any egg
> in it. All I can say is once bitten a thousand times shy. I am not
> talking about a mild case of puking and the trots. *This was a case of
> puking my guts out and spending 5 hours hunched over a toilet retching.
> * that was 40 years ago and I still cringe when I think about how
> horrible it was. I don't ever want to be that sick again.

Probably from old meat, then, or stuff that sat out too long. I can
get mild FP from ground beef when nobody else eating the same thing
gets it. Too sensitive to meat, I think.

I had a friend whose husband was sick for over a year with salmonella-
based FP from a 4th of July picnic. I don't know if he ever totally
recovered.

N.

On Jan 7, 12:37*pm, Sheldon > wrote:
> On Jan 6, 1:01 pm, Nancy2 > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 6, 8:35 am, Dave Smith >
> > wrote:
>
> > > Sky wrote:
> > > > Just open and do several "tests". First, do the "sniff test" and if it
> > > > passes, the continued to the "sample test taste". If it passes that
> > > > sencond test for taste, then gopherit! Third test is wait & see if wise
> > > > to continue consumption.
>
> > > > Sky, who assumes no liability for mentioning above 'tests'! <G>
>
> > > I once got a dose of food poisoning from a meal I found in the
> > > restaurant in the store where I worked. I never smelled anything odd,
> > > and everything tasted fine.... as good as I could have expected from
> > > that greasy spoon. That evening I was so sick I thought i was going to
> > > die. After I puked up all the food in my system I continued to retch for
> > > another 5 hours. You have to try that some time to understand how
> > > horrible and experience it is. I thought my guts were turning inside out.
>
> > > If there is a chance of catching anything like that again I pitch the food.
>
> > Your food poisoning likely did not come from old cheese or sausage of
> > the summer-sausage type. Most restaurant food poisoning comes from
> > eggs or products made with eggs that sit out too long, or fresh meat
> > (especially chicken) gone bad or not cooked properly.
>
> That's not true. *the sources for most cases of food poisoning
> contracted at restaurants is from tossed salads (number 1 by far),
> ground beef, seafood, and cold cuts. *It's extremely rare anyone gets
> sick from eggs at restaurants... it's very rare that any restaurant
> prepares eggs in ways that are prone to spoilage such as egg salad/
> deviled eggs.. I've never seen either on a restaurant menu.
> Restaurants prepare eggs to order, typically fried and served
> immediately. *It's extremely rare to find fresh eggs in the US anymore
> that are contaminated with salmonella unless from a small private
> family run operation that typically foregoes modern inspection...
> restaurants don't buy those eggs and neither should you.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Many sauces and other blended things have eggs which if they sit out
of refrigeration (after being broken open) will become bacteria-laden
and make you sick.

I've seen egg salad on family-type diner menus very often, actually.
And the patron usually doesn't know the source of mayonnaise in any
menu item.....does he?

N.

On Jan 7, 12:46*pm, Sheldon > wrote:
> On Jan 7, 11:12 am, Dave Smith
>
> > wrote:
> > Nancy2 wrote:
> > >> If there is a chance of catching anything like that again I pitch the food.
>
> > > Your food poisoning likely did not come from old cheese or sausage of
> > > the summer-sausage type. Most restaurant food poisoning comes from
> > > eggs or products made with eggs that sit out too long, or fresh meat
> > > (especially chicken) gone bad or not cooked properly.
>
> > My food poisoning was from a chili dog.
> > I don't think there was any egg in it.
>
> Most likely from the hot dog... the ground meat in chili is usually
> very well cooked but hot dogs are very often undercooked. *Could also
> get food poisoning from some toppings, raw onion is a major culprit...
> it's best not to eat pre-prepared raw onion in restaurants.. you can
> get sick from raw onions at home too if cut and saved in the fridge...
> once cut an onion should be used immediately or tossed.

I've never heard this "warning." I keep raw onion in my fridge (in
one of those vacuum bags) all the time and it's never made me sick.
Ever.

Hotdogs, at least in my experience, are fully cooked when you buy
them. How can they be undercooked? I've never seen them "raw."

N.

On Jan 7, 12:41*pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
>
>
>
>
> *Sheldon > wrote:
> > On Jan 6, 1:01?pm, Nancy2 > wrote:
> > > On Jan 6, 8:35?am, Dave Smith >
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Sky wrote:
> > > > > Just open and do several "tests". ?First, do the "sniff test" and if it
> > > > > passes, the continued to the "sample test taste". ?If it passes that
> > > > > sencond test for taste, then gopherit! ?Third test is wait & see if
> > > > > wise
> > > > > to continue consumption.
>
> > > > > Sky, who assumes no liability for mentioning above 'tests'! <G>
>
> > > > I once got a dose of food poisoning from a meal I found in the
> > > > restaurant in the store where I worked. I never smelled anything odd,
> > > > and everything tasted fine.... as good as I could have expected from
> > > > that greasy spoon. ?That evening I was so sick I thought i was going to
> > > > die. After I puked up all the food in my system I continued to retch for
> > > > another 5 hours. ?You have to try that some time to understand how
> > > > horrible and experience it is. I thought my guts were turning inside out.
>
> > > > If there is a chance of catching anything like that again I pitch the
> > > > food.
>
> > > Your food poisoning likely did not come from old cheese or sausage of
> > > the summer-sausage type. ?Most restaurant food poisoning comes from
> > > eggs or products made with eggs that sit out too long, or fresh meat
> > > (especially chicken) gone bad or not cooked properly.
>
> > That's not true. *the sources for most cases of food poisoning
> > contracted at restaurants is from tossed salads (number 1 by far),
> > ground beef, seafood, and cold cuts. *It's extremely rare anyone gets
> > sick from eggs at restaurants... it's very rare that any restaurant
> > prepares eggs in ways that are prone to spoilage such as egg salad/
> > deviled eggs.. I've never seen either on a restaurant menu.
> > Restaurants prepare eggs to order, typically fried and served
> > immediately. *It's extremely rare to find fresh eggs in the US anymore
> > that are contaminated with salmonella unless from a small private
> > family run operation that typically foregoes modern inspection...
> > restaurants don't buy those eggs and neither should you.
>
> Sheldon is correct.
>
> By far, the majority of documented commercial food poisonings have come
> from salads and undercooked beef.
>
> Privately is another matter. ;-) A classic from picnics is potato
> salad...
>
> with eggs or egg based dressings!
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Anything with eggs - and there are plenty of commercially-served
potato salads out there, for instance - can give you FP if left out of
refrigeration too long, or if the kitchen's refrigeration is faulty.

N.

In article
>,
Nancy2 > wrote:

> On Jan 7, 10:12*am, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
> > Nancy2 wrote:
> > >> If there is a chance of catching anything like that again I pitch the
> > >> food.
> >
> > > Your food poisoning likely did not come from old cheese or sausage of
> > > the summer-sausage type. *Most restaurant food poisoning comes from
> > > eggs or products made with eggs that sit out too long, or fresh meat
> > > (especially chicken) gone bad or not cooked properly.
> >
> > My food poisoning was from a chili dog. I don't think there was any egg
> > in it. All I can say is once bitten a thousand times shy. I am not
> > talking about a mild case of puking and the trots. *This was a case of
> > puking my guts out and spending 5 hours hunched over a toilet retching.
> > * that was 40 years ago and I still cringe when I think about how
> > horrible it was. I don't ever want to be that sick again.
>
> Probably from old meat, then, or stuff that sat out too long. I can
> get mild FP from ground beef when nobody else eating the same thing
> gets it. Too sensitive to meat, I think.
>
> I had a friend whose husband was sick for over a year with salmonella-
> based FP from a 4th of July picnic. I don't know if he ever totally
> recovered.
>
> N.

Geeze. Was it Typhoid?
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama