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In article > ,
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> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >, "MarieD" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I could never grab a drink inside a store and drink it while
> >> shopping without paying first.
> >> Marie

> >
> > Why not? If you take the empty bottle to the cashier and pay for it,
> > what is the harm? I usually hit the gator aid when I'm not feeling
> > well...

>
> I would think that the trouble with that is that you open yourself to
> the suspicion that you are not going to pay for it, like the many
> people who help themselves to items in the store and then dump the
> packaging and don't pay. The staff will have to keep an eye on you to
> make sure that you pay, or assume that you won't. If you really have to
> have a drink to get you through your shopping the best thing to do is to
> go through the checkout, pay for it and get the receipt, then go back to
> do your shopping.


I suppose that'd work. ;-)
But I'm not going to worry about it. It's not like I do it every single
trip. I'm a regular enough customer there that a lot of the people in
produce, meat and the cashiers know my first name...
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Omelet wrote:

> In article > ,
> Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>
>>Omelet wrote:
>>
>>>In article >, "MarieD" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I could never grab a drink inside a store and drink it while
>>>>shopping without paying first.
>>>>Marie
>>>
>>>Why not? If you take the empty bottle to the cashier and pay for it,
>>>what is the harm? I usually hit the gator aid when I'm not feeling
>>>well...

>>
>>I would think that the trouble with that is that you open yourself to
>>the suspicion that you are not going to pay for it, like the many
>>people who help themselves to items in the store and then dump the
>>packaging and don't pay. The staff will have to keep an eye on you to
>>make sure that you pay, or assume that you won't. If you really have to
>>have a drink to get you through your shopping the best thing to do is to
>>go through the checkout, pay for it and get the receipt, then go back to
>>do your shopping.

>
>
> I suppose that'd work. ;-)
> But I'm not going to worry about it. It's not like I do it every single
> trip. I'm a regular enough customer there that a lot of the people in
> produce, meat and the cashiers know my first name...


Exactly. That's the advantage to being a regular. Not only do they not
assume you're a thief if you open and consume a drink, some times the
meat guy will call you over and say, hey, we got an extra crate of some
beautiful meaty marrow bones, are you interested?

"Lemme see 'em... Oh, those are nice. Yeah buddy! The usual, 3" to
3.5" lengths."

"How many?"

"All of them! Wrap them up three to a package, please."

And then when you're checking out and the cashier asks you what in the
world you're going to make with all those bones, you get to tell her,
"Happy dogs".

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Kathleen > wrote:

> > I suppose that'd work. ;-)
> > But I'm not going to worry about it. It's not like I do it every single
> > trip. I'm a regular enough customer there that a lot of the people in
> > produce, meat and the cashiers know my first name...

>
> Exactly. That's the advantage to being a regular. Not only do they not
> assume you're a thief if you open and consume a drink, some times the
> meat guy will call you over and say, hey, we got an extra crate of some
> beautiful meaty marrow bones, are you interested?
>
> "Lemme see 'em... Oh, those are nice. Yeah buddy! The usual, 3" to
> 3.5" lengths."
>
> "How many?"
>
> "All of them! Wrap them up three to a package, please."
>
> And then when you're checking out and the cashier asks you what in the
> world you're going to make with all those bones, you get to tell her,
> "Happy dogs".


<lol> Too true!

The happiest the dogs get is generally from when I purchase calves feet
tho'. Those ankle and toe bones pressure cook up perfect for them. :-)

So do the beef shanks.
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Gill Smith wrote:
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> ...
>> Gill Smith wrote:
>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Gill Smith wrote:
>>>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Jan 13, 7:03 am, Sheldon > wrote:
>>>>>>> Very few products nowadays can be opened without a hefty pair of tin
>>>>>>> snips and a razor knife... most everything is electronically welded
>>>>>>> sealed in those indestructable plastic pods. Just two days ago my
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> Delta shower head arrived and it took me a full ten minuts to remove
>>>>>>> it from its imprisonment cell... you almost need Kevlar gloves to
>>>>>>> protect your hands.
>>>>>> Thanks for reminding me that my daughter and I got a new voice
>>>>>> recorder, thinking it would be useful in the car.
>>>>> Have to ask: why the car? are you a private detective? a poet?
>>>>>
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>>>> Neither. Two reasons. First, I think of things when I'm driving, which
>>>> I can't jot down. More importantly, my daughter and I have come up with
>>>> some glorious things that never can be re-created in toto. For example,
>>>> we were working on an aging/nursing home/dementia musical. (You have to
>>>> realize that I took care of my dad, who suffered from dementia, and I
>>>> mean no disrespect by that.) Various other things.
>>> Aha. The creative line of things.
>>>
>>> Good luck with the musical, it's a tough business....
>>>
>>> So is dementia. My ma's got it.
>>>

>> That's awful, as we who have dealt with it know full well. :-(

>
> Not gaga, yet. It's the 'repeat conversation' stage.
>
> The family fought to keep her out of an old folds home, but when the time
> came turns out she loves the place!
>
> Been there over a year now.
>
> So it's not all bad.
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>

It's good that the staff is getting to know her before she is
really in the throes of dementia. I hope it is an NH that will
allow her to stay, and serve her needs, as long as necessary.

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On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:00:16 GMT, mmm wrote:

> My problem is that I tend to pass wind in supermarkets. (not joking)
> I used to ask myself why I was so nervous that I had to fart.
> Then after discovering an article about people who can't handle 'too much
> choice,' I realised that was me as I also tend to fart in Libraries,
> bookshops, video shops, clothes shops etc.
> I now put it down to growing up in a very small town with small shops and
> not being accustomed to too much choice.
> This also extends to my liking fairly simple meals too.


hmm...do you fart in church? seems like there's only one choice there.

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Dave Smith wrote:
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> Mark Thorson wrote:
>
> > Exactly. I like Trader Joe's because they always
> > have free samples and coffee. Not bad coffee, if I've
> > been lazy about roasting my own. (Or more recently,
> > I haven't had any coffee for about 2 months waiting
> > for my tinnitus to go away.)

>
> Coffee and tinnitus ??? I have never heard of that link before, so I
> googled it and sure enough..... Hmmm..... And I thought the almost
> constant ringing in my ears was from an incident in a gun range last
> year when I thought those cheapie ear plugs would would substitute for
> the proper ear protection that I left at home. But come to thnk of it,
> it does seem to be worse shortly after drinking coffee. Maybe I should try.
>
> Two months? And you're still waiting for the ringing to go away?


Yes. The last time it took about six months to go away.
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On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:39:40 -0800 (PST), Sheldon wrote:

> "Jean B." wrote:
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>> I see a lot of munching at Whole Foods and wonder what percentage
>> of folks pay for the pastries etc. �(And these are WHOLE things
>> they are eating, not samples.)

>
> Of course those are samples... how much you wanna bet Whole Foods
> doesn't hire ringers/shills whose sole job is to walk the store
> noshing just to encourage patrons to feel it's okay. Why do you think
> Las Vegas supplies all that free booze and cleavage to patrons.
> There are just as many two way mirrors and hidden cameras at Whole
> Foods as Vegas, they know exactly who's noshing (sampling) and who's
> shoplifting (stealing). What planet are you from?


that's a pretty odd question coming from you, sheldon. paid undercover
noshers at whole foods? we need a new term for insane delusions.

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On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:46:12 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

> Sheldon wrote:
>>
>>> I would think that the trouble with that is that you open yourself to
>>> the suspicion that you are not going to pay for it, �like the many
>>> people who help themselves to items in the store and then dump the
>>> packaging and don't pay. �The staff will have to keep an eye on you to
>>> make sure that you pay, or assume that you won't. If you really have to
>>> have a drink to get you through your shopping the best thing to do is to
>>> go through the checkout, pay for it and get the receipt, then go back to
>>> do your shopping.

>>
>> ****Dave "Bundt Miester" Schmidt ****
>>
>> Yeah, right... she's gonna wait on line for like 40 minutes to pay for
>> a gator aid and then feel like shopping... the store loses out because
>> by your stalag rulz I'd never return. Dave, you are one sick puppy.

>
> LOL, but I would suggest that the sock puppy is the one who resorts to
> hyperbole like a 40 minute wait in the checkout to get a bottle of
> gatorade. Even you should be bright enough to realize that when stores
> have to worry about people stealing things they would just as well not
> have them as customers., and as I pointed out, walking around drinking
> something that has not been paid for presents the probability that they
> will assume that the person is not going to pay for it. I suggested
> that paying for it and getting the receipt is the safer thing to do.
>
>>
>> It's patently obvious that you were not raised in the US of A.
>>
>> Gestapo Alert!

>
> Oh??? I believe this thread started with an incident in the US of A.


sheldon is as nutty as a fruitcake minus the fruit and cake.

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On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:14:46 -0800 (PST), Sheldon wrote:

> Gloria P wrote:
>> Sheldon wrote:
>>> Eating an apple in a store while shopping is NOT stealing. �In fact
>>> produce departmants do whatever they can to promote sales, otherwise
>>> lots more ends up in the dumpster, as do many more stores.

>>
>> With apples costing up to $1.99 a pound, if you eat an apple or its
>> equivalent every time you shop, you have eaten a few $$ of produce.

>
> When you take words out of context you're *stealing* by skewing what
> was actually said.
>
> The stupid markets don't pay $1.99 for apples, when bought by the semi
> truckload they pay more like 20 cents a pound. When someone eats an
> apple that apple cost the store like ten cents... and there's no loss
> of possible future revenue because they were never gonna sell that
> apple anyway because before they can account for the sale of that
> apple they first have to account for the sale of every apple in the
> store, and like 30 pct ain't never gonna sell before they rot... I can
> tell you were never in the food business.
>


when you take something without paying for it, that's stealing. what the
store paid for it is immaterial.

your rabbi must be very proud.

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On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:43:02 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

> Sheldon wrote:
>
>> When you take words out of context you're *stealing* by skewing what
>> was actually said.
>>
>> The stupid markets don't pay $1.99 for apples, when bought by the semi
>> truckload they pay more like 20 cents a pound. When someone eats an
>> apple that apple cost the store like ten cents... and there's no loss
>> of possible future revenue because they were never gonna sell that
>> apple anyway because before they can account for the sale of that
>> apple they first have to account for the sale of every apple in the
>> store, and like 30 pct ain't never gonna sell before they rot... I can
>> tell you were never in the food business.

>
> That is some pretty twisted logic you are using there. It doesn't matter
> that they pay only 20 cents per pound for apples. If they are selling
> apples for $1.99 and apples are roughly 1/2 lb each, that is 50 cents
> that they lose in gross profit, not 5 cents. I don't know where you get
> the 30% rot rate. Markets usually buy only what they figure they can
> sell. When fruit gets old it goes to the reduced price shelf, and I
> don't recall ever seeing apples there.


sheldon's last sentence doesn't make sense no matter how you parse it.

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blake murphy > wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:46:12 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > Sheldon wrote:
> >>
> >>> I would think that the trouble with that is that you open yourself to
> >>> the suspicion that you are not going to pay for it, ?like the many
> >>> people who help themselves to items in the store and then dump the
> >>> packaging and don't pay. ?The staff will have to keep an eye on you to
> >>> make sure that you pay, or assume that you won't. If you really have to
> >>> have a drink to get you through your shopping the best thing to do is to
> >>> go through the checkout, pay for it and get the receipt, then go back to
> >>> do your shopping.
> >>
> >> ****Dave "Bundt Miester" Schmidt ****
> >>
> >> Yeah, right... she's gonna wait on line for like 40 minutes to pay for
> >> a gator aid and then feel like shopping... the store loses out because
> >> by your stalag rulz I'd never return. Dave, you are one sick puppy.

> >
> > LOL, but I would suggest that the sock puppy is the one who resorts to
> > hyperbole like a 40 minute wait in the checkout to get a bottle of
> > gatorade. Even you should be bright enough to realize that when stores
> > have to worry about people stealing things they would just as well not
> > have them as customers., and as I pointed out, walking around drinking
> > something that has not been paid for presents the probability that they
> > will assume that the person is not going to pay for it. I suggested
> > that paying for it and getting the receipt is the safer thing to do.
> >
> >>
> >> It's patently obvious that you were not raised in the US of A.
> >>
> >> Gestapo Alert!

> >
> > Oh??? I believe this thread started with an incident in the US of A.

>
> sheldon is as nutty as a fruitcake minus the fruit and cake.
>
> your pal,
> blake


Sheldon is a bowl of granola...

What ain't fruity or nutty is flakey.
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On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:05:51 -0800 (PST), Sheldon wrote:

> On Jan 13, 2:43�pm, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>> Sheldon wrote:
>>> When you take words out of context you're *stealing* by skewing what
>>> was actually said.

>>
>>> The stupid markets don't pay $1.99 for apples, when bought by the semi
>>> truckload they pay more like 20 cents a pound. �When someone eats an
>>> apple that apple cost the store like ten cents... and there's no loss
>>> of possible future revenue because they were never gonna sell that
>>> apple anyway because before they can account for the sale of that
>>> apple they first have to account for the sale of every apple in the
>>> store, and like 30 pct ain't never gonna sell before they rot... I can
>>> tell you were never in the food business.

>>
>> That is some pretty twisted logic you are using there. It doesn't matter
>> � that they pay only 20 cents per pound for apples. If they are selling
>> apples for $1.99 and apples are roughly 1/2 lb each, that is 50 cents
>> that they lose in gross profit, not 5 cents. �I don't know where you get
>> the 30% rot rate. Markets usually buy only what they figure they can
>> sell. When fruit gets old it goes to the reduced price shelf, and I
>> don't recall ever seeing apples there.

>
> You live on a different planet from the rest of us. You're another
> one who has never run a business.


i can well believe you once ran a fruit and nut business. which planet are
'the rest of us' from again?

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On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:52:46 -0800, Bob Terwilliger wrote:

> Sheldon blathered:
>
>>> In fact, if a store can operate with a net profit margin of 1.5%, they
>>> are doing great!
>>>
>>> http://biz.yahoo.com/p/734conameu.html
>>>
>>> Also, the Annual Financial Review from the Food Marketing Institute
>>> (prepared December 2008) shows the Net Profit Percent for All Firms after
>>> taxes at 1.84%. 1992-1993 was a particularly bad year for grocers at just
>>> o.49%.
>>>
>>> Apparently, every little apple does count.

>>
>> Another one who has never operated a food business. There are no losses
>> whatsoever incurred with customers sampling perishables, in fact customers
>> sampling in any aspect of the food business increases profits
>> substantially. Businesses large enough to afford them hire sample
>> attendants and pay them well for just standing there smiling and looking
>> pretty... last I was at Sam's Club there had to be a couple dozen
>> attendants whose only job was to encourage folks to try samples... to be
>> honest I'd like to have sampled some of those attendants. And there was
>> no limit on how much you sampled... one in particular I spent a long time
>> admiring her wares... it was some sort of chocolate layer cake she was
>> promoting, I don't remember the brand name, the only thing seems to have
>> stuck in my head is something like Chocolate Mandarin Cleavage.

>
> What the **** are you talking about? YOU have never operated a food
> business, so you have no expertise in the field at all, and you have no
> basis whatsoever to knowledgeably critique the business study cited above.
> You're just talking out of your ass again, and somehow you gravitated to
> some sticky fantasy about cleavage. At least you didn't talk about
> cocksucking this time.
>
> Bob


no doubt we'll come to that when we start discussing sampling bananas.

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On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:31:52 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Tue 13 Jan 2009 01:22:16p, Mark Thorson told us...
>
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>> > Point being if you don't want someone to eat don't tempt them... when
>>> > a store puts out a display of crispy fresh grapes a mountain high
>>>
>>> It is a grocery store, not a free buffet. They are in the business of
>>> selling food, so of course they have to put it out on display. It is
>>> not there for people to eat for free. If they want a taste they can ask.

>>
>> I don't want to go shopping with Sheldon.
>> There might be a display of bags of cat litter
>> and he might yield to temptation.

>
> To buy the litter or use it right there?
>


well, he eats a lot of spam. maybe he'd sample the litter, too.

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Kathleen > wrote:
>And next time I'm going to charge for the service. Granny boots, black
>tights and Utilikilt cost extra.


Mmmm HOT! Lol, Utilikilt. I've only seen these being "demo'd" at
tradeshows worn by strapping hairy men. For those who have never had
the "joy" these are kilts with many pockets. If I had to guess, I'd
say this product was pretty much doomed or "long tail" at best.


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Mark Thorson wrote:

>> Coffee and tinnitus ??? I have never heard of that link before, so I
>> googled it and sure enough..... Hmmm..... And I thought the almost
>> constant ringing in my ears was from an incident in a gun range last
>> year when I thought those cheapie ear plugs would would substitute for
>> the proper ear protection that I left at home. But come to thnk of it,
>> it does seem to be worse shortly after drinking coffee. Maybe I should try.
>>
>> Two months? And you're still waiting for the ringing to go away?

>
> Yes. The last time it took about six months to go away.


Okay. You've got me thinking about it. I have been monitoring my coffee
intake and the ringing in my ears. It does seem to be more noticeable
after coffee. I would hate to have to give it up... the coffee, not th
ringing.
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>>And next time I'm going to charge for the service. Granny boots, black
>>tights and Utilikilt cost extra.

>
>
> Mmmm HOT! Lol, Utilikilt. I've only seen these being "demo'd" at
> tradeshows worn by strapping hairy men. For those who have never had
> the "joy" these are kilts with many pockets. If I had to guess, I'd
> say this product was pretty much doomed or "long tail" at best.


This one came from the 'scratch and dent" defective rack... Small
waist and big ass, at least for a guy.

Fits me just fine. And pockets! Be still, my heart...

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Dave Smith wrote:
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> Mark Thorson wrote:
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> > Yes. The last time it took about six months to go away.

>
> Okay. You've got me thinking about it. I have been monitoring my coffee
> intake and the ringing in my ears. It does seem to be more noticeable
> after coffee. I would hate to have to give it up... the coffee, not th
> ringing.


An odd thing I've noticed is that coffee can maintain
a state of tinnitus, when the same dose by itself
doesn't cause it. I'd been drinking only a single
cup of coffee a day with no problem, but then one day
I had a lot of work to do, so I drank two more cups
and that started my present bout of tinnitus. Returning
to one cup daily did not solve the problem. I expect
staying off the bean completely will solve the problem,
but I don't know exactly when.

In your case, your tinnitus might have been caused by
your shooting range incident, but then maintained by
coffee. That's just a theory, based on my experience.
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> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:00:16 GMT, mmm wrote:
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>> My problem is that I tend to pass wind in supermarkets. (not joking)
>> I used to ask myself why I was so nervous that I had to fart.
>> Then after discovering an article about people who can't handle 'too much
>> choice,' I realised that was me as I also tend to fart in Libraries,
>> bookshops, video shops, clothes shops etc.
>> I now put it down to growing up in a very small town with small shops and
>> not being accustomed to too much choice.
>> This also extends to my liking fairly simple meals too.

>
> hmm...do you fart in church? seems like there's only one choice there.
>

What I want to know is, how many people fart when nervous? I have never
heard of this.


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> Oh??? I believe this thread started with an incident in the US of A.


Around here, it's sometimes called the
People's Republic of Berkeley.


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> On Tue 13 Jan 2009 01:22:16p, Mark Thorson told us...
>
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> >>
> >> Sheldon wrote:
> >>
> >> > Point being if you don't want someone to eat don't tempt them... when
> >> > a store puts out a display of crispy fresh grapes a mountain high
> >>
> >> It is a grocery store, not a free buffet. They are in the business of
> >> selling food, so of course they have to put it out on display. It is
> >> not there for people to eat for free. If they want a taste they can ask.

> >
> > I don't want to go shopping with Sheldon.
> > There might be a display of bags of cat litter
> > and he might yield to temptation.

>
> To buy the litter or use it right there?


I'm afraid he might not be able to contain himself.
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>
> In your case, your tinnitus might have been caused by
> your shooting range incident, but then maintained by
> coffee. That's just a theory, based on my experience.


Unfortunately, that is not an isolated incident. I used to do a lot of
shooting when I was in the reserves, went on a few artillery shoots and
played with grenades a few times. They now use ear protection. I also
worked in an alloy smelting plant for a few summers where the arc
furnaces were booming away, and have worked with a lot of loud
equipment, not to mention a listening to a lot of loud music. I have had
it on and off for years, but lately it has been a little more annoying
than it was in the past.

I usually start my morning with a latte, have one coffee during the day
and another after dinner. I should try to cut back.
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> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:52:46 -0800, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
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>> Sheldon blathered:
>>
>>>> In fact, if a store can operate with a net profit margin of 1.5%, they
>>>> are doing great!
>>>>
>>>> http://biz.yahoo.com/p/734conameu.html
>>>>
>>>> Also, the Annual Financial Review from the Food Marketing Institute
>>>> (prepared December 2008) shows the Net Profit Percent for All Firms
>>>> after
>>>> taxes at 1.84%. 1992-1993 was a particularly bad year for grocers at
>>>> just
>>>> o.49%.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently, every little apple does count.
>>>
>>> Another one who has never operated a food business. There are no
>>> losses
>>> whatsoever incurred with customers sampling perishables, in fact
>>> customers
>>> sampling in any aspect of the food business increases profits
>>> substantially. Businesses large enough to afford them hire sample
>>> attendants and pay them well for just standing there smiling and looking
>>> pretty... last I was at Sam's Club there had to be a couple dozen
>>> attendants whose only job was to encourage folks to try samples... to be
>>> honest I'd like to have sampled some of those attendants. And there was
>>> no limit on how much you sampled... one in particular I spent a long
>>> time
>>> admiring her wares... it was some sort of chocolate layer cake she was
>>> promoting, I don't remember the brand name, the only thing seems to have
>>> stuck in my head is something like Chocolate Mandarin Cleavage.

>>
>> What the **** are you talking about? YOU have never operated a food
>> business, so you have no expertise in the field at all, and you have no
>> basis whatsoever to knowledgeably critique the business study cited
>> above.
>> You're just talking out of your ass again, and somehow you gravitated to
>> some sticky fantasy about cleavage. At least you didn't talk about
>> cocksucking this time.
>>
>> Bob

>
> no doubt we'll come to that when we start discussing sampling bananas.
>


Now, see, I would think Bob and Sheldon would get along. Bob seems to be
emulating him.


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"Jean B." wrote:
> MarieD wrote:
> > "Omelet" wrote:
> >
> >> Why not? ?If you take the empty bottle to the cashier and pay for it,
> >> what is the harm? ?I usually hit the gator aid when I'm not feeling
> >> well...

>
> > I guess I would be worried about being accused of theft.


You had a damaged childhood... Marie, probably raised strict Roman
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Dave Smith > wrote:


> I would think that the trouble with that is that you open yourself to
> the suspicion that you are not going to pay for it, like the many
> people who help themselves to items in the store and then dump the
> packaging and don't pay.


Has anybody else noticed that some grocery stores have *NO* trash
containers easily available? My local Safeway is this way.
Occasionally, they will offer samples. I'll take one and move on. When
I'm done, I simply cannot find a trash container. There's one back at
the sample stand, under the watchful eyes of the sample dispenser, and
one at each checkstand, under the watchful eyes of the checker.

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> Gill Smith wrote:
>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Gill Smith wrote:
>>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Gill Smith wrote:
>>>>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On Jan 13, 7:03 am, Sheldon > wrote:
>>>>>>>> Very few products nowadays can be opened without a hefty pair of
>>>>>>>> tin
>>>>>>>> snips and a razor knife... most everything is electronically welded
>>>>>>>> sealed in those indestructable plastic pods. Just two days ago my
>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>> Delta shower head arrived and it took me a full ten minuts to
>>>>>>>> remove
>>>>>>>> it from its imprisonment cell... you almost need Kevlar gloves to
>>>>>>>> protect your hands.
>>>>>>> Thanks for reminding me that my daughter and I got a new voice
>>>>>>> recorder, thinking it would be useful in the car.
>>>>>> Have to ask: why the car? are you a private detective? a poet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
>>>>> Neither. Two reasons. First, I think of things when I'm driving,
>>>>> which I can't jot down. More importantly, my daughter and I have come
>>>>> up with some glorious things that never can be re-created in toto.
>>>>> For example, we were working on an aging/nursing home/dementia
>>>>> musical. (You have to realize that I took care of my dad, who
>>>>> suffered from dementia, and I mean no disrespect by that.) Various
>>>>> other things.
>>>> Aha. The creative line of things.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck with the musical, it's a tough business....
>>>>
>>>> So is dementia. My ma's got it.
>>>>
>>> That's awful, as we who have dealt with it know full well. :-(

>>
>> Not gaga, yet. It's the 'repeat conversation' stage.
>>
>> The family fought to keep her out of an old folds home, but when the time
>> came turns out she loves the place!
>>
>> Been there over a year now.
>>
>> So it's not all bad.
>>
>> --
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> It's good that the staff is getting to know her before she is really in
> the throes of dementia. I hope it is an NH that will allow her to stay,
> and serve her needs, as long as necessary.


It's a quasi-religious private home - 'quasi' because, even though
non-demoninational, you can't right out and say such things these days.

Ma will be there for 'the duration' - we hope (finances permitting!).

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> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Gill Smith wrote:
>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Gill Smith wrote:
>>>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Gill Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On Jan 13, 7:03 am, Sheldon > wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Very few products nowadays can be opened without a hefty pair of
>>>>>>>>> tin
>>>>>>>>> snips and a razor knife... most everything is electronically welded
>>>>>>>>> sealed in those indestructable plastic pods. Just two days ago my
>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>> Delta shower head arrived and it took me a full ten minuts to
>>>>>>>>> remove
>>>>>>>>> it from its imprisonment cell... you almost need Kevlar gloves to
>>>>>>>>> protect your hands.
>>>>>>>> Thanks for reminding me that my daughter and I got a new voice
>>>>>>>> recorder, thinking it would be useful in the car.
>>>>>>> Have to ask: why the car? are you a private detective? a poet?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
>>>>>> Neither. Two reasons. First, I think of things when I'm driving,
>>>>>> which I can't jot down. More importantly, my daughter and I have come
>>>>>> up with some glorious things that never can be re-created in toto.
>>>>>> For example, we were working on an aging/nursing home/dementia
>>>>>> musical. (You have to realize that I took care of my dad, who
>>>>>> suffered from dementia, and I mean no disrespect by that.) Various
>>>>>> other things.
>>>>> Aha. The creative line of things.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck with the musical, it's a tough business....
>>>>>
>>>>> So is dementia. My ma's got it.
>>>>>
>>>> That's awful, as we who have dealt with it know full well. :-(
>>> Not gaga, yet. It's the 'repeat conversation' stage.
>>>
>>> The family fought to keep her out of an old folds home, but when the time
>>> came turns out she loves the place!
>>>
>>> Been there over a year now.
>>>
>>> So it's not all bad.
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/

>> It's good that the staff is getting to know her before she is really in
>> the throes of dementia. I hope it is an NH that will allow her to stay,
>> and serve her needs, as long as necessary.

>
> It's a quasi-religious private home - 'quasi' because, even though
> non-demoninational, you can't right out and say such things these days.
>
> Ma will be there for 'the duration' - we hope (finances permitting!).
>
> --
> http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
>
>

Yes, there's always that, alas. Good luck!

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On Wed 14 Jan 2009 01:10:21p, blake murphy told us...

> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:31:52 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Tue 13 Jan 2009 01:22:16p, Mark Thorson told us...
>>
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sheldon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Point being if you don't want someone to eat don't tempt them...

when
>>>> > a store puts out a display of crispy fresh grapes a mountain high
>>>>
>>>> It is a grocery store, not a free buffet. They are in the business of
>>>> selling food, so of course they have to put it out on display. It is
>>>> not there for people to eat for free. If they want a taste they can

ask.
>>>
>>> I don't want to go shopping with Sheldon.
>>> There might be a display of bags of cat litter
>>> and he might yield to temptation.

>>
>> To buy the litter or use it right there?
>>

>
> well, he eats a lot of spam. maybe he'd sample the litter, too.
>
> your pal,
> blake


Well, that should bind him up really good. Too bad it would gag his mouth.

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On Wed 14 Jan 2009 01:59:36p, Mark Thorson told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> On Tue 13 Jan 2009 01:22:16p, Mark Thorson told us...
>>
>> > Dave Smith wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sheldon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Point being if you don't want someone to eat don't tempt them...
>> >> > when a store puts out a display of crispy fresh grapes a mountain
>> >> > high
>> >>
>> >> It is a grocery store, not a free buffet. They are in the business
>> >> of selling food, so of course they have to put it out on display.
>> >> It is not there for people to eat for free. If they want a taste
>> >> they can ask.
>> >
>> > I don't want to go shopping with Sheldon.
>> > There might be a display of bags of cat litter
>> > and he might yield to temptation.

>>
>> To buy the litter or use it right there?

>
> I'm afraid he might not be able to contain himself.


He has never contained himself before.

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> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:00:16 GMT, mmm wrote:
>
>> My problem is that I tend to pass wind in supermarkets. (not joking)
>> I used to ask myself why I was so nervous that I had to fart.
>> Then after discovering an article about people who can't handle 'too much
>> choice,' I realised that was me as I also tend to fart in Libraries,
>> bookshops, video shops, clothes shops etc.
>> I now put it down to growing up in a very small town with small shops and
>> not being accustomed to too much choice.
>> This also extends to my liking fairly simple meals too.

>
> hmm...do you fart in church? seems like there's only one choice there.
>
> your pal,
> blake


I have same problem :-@




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Ben Mann wrote:
> blake murphy formulated on Thursday :
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>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:00:16 GMT, mmm wrote:
>>
>>> My problem is that I tend to pass wind in supermarkets. (not joking)
>>> I used to ask myself why I was so nervous that I had to fart.
>>> Then after discovering an article about people who can't handle 'too
>>> much choice,' I realised that was me as I also tend to fart in
>>> Libraries, bookshops, video shops, clothes shops etc.
>>> I now put it down to growing up in a very small town with small shops
>>> and not being accustomed to too much choice.
>>> This also extends to my liking fairly simple meals too.

>>
>>
>> hmm...do you fart in church? seems like there's only one choice there.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake

>
>
> I have same problem :-@


Interesting that you and your fellow flatulent aussie just happened to
pop out of the woodwork at the same time.

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Kathleen wrote :
> Ben Mann wrote:
>> blake murphy formulated on Thursday :
>>
>>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:00:16 GMT, mmm wrote:
>>>
>>>> My problem is that I tend to pass wind in supermarkets. (not joking)
>>>> I used to ask myself why I was so nervous that I had to fart.
>>>> Then after discovering an article about people who can't handle 'too much
>>>> choice,' I realised that was me as I also tend to fart in Libraries,
>>>> bookshops, video shops, clothes shops etc.
>>>> I now put it down to growing up in a very small town with small shops and
>>>> not being accustomed to too much choice.
>>>> This also extends to my liking fairly simple meals too.
>>>
>>>
>>> hmm...do you fart in church? seems like there's only one choice there.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake

>>
>>
>> I have same problem :-@

>
> Interesting that you and your fellow flatulent aussie just happened to pop
> out of the woodwork at the same time.


>:| :-) ;-) ;o) :-( :-[ lol ) Þ :'( 8-o :/ ^^ :-? B-) :-@ :-Z l-)



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>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
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>>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:00:16 GMT, mmm wrote:
>>>
>>>> My problem is that I tend to pass wind in supermarkets. (not joking)
>>>> I used to ask myself why I was so nervous that I had to fart.
>>>> Then after discovering an article about people who can't handle 'too
>>>> much
>>>> choice,' I realised that was me as I also tend to fart in Libraries,
>>>> bookshops, video shops, clothes shops etc.
>>>> I now put it down to growing up in a very small town with small shops
>>>> and
>>>> not being accustomed to too much choice.
>>>> This also extends to my liking fairly simple meals too.
>>>
>>> hmm...do you fart in church? seems like there's only one choice there.
>>>

>> What I want to know is, how many people fart when nervous? I have never
>> heard of this.

>
> I is quite common... :-)
>


Well thank God I don't make many people nervous up close.


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> :| :-) ;-) ;o) :-( :-[ lol ) Þ :'( 8-o :/ ^^ :-? B-) :-@ :-Z l-)



Tourette's?

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>
>> :| :-) ;-) ;o) :-( :-[ lol ) Þ :'( 8-o :/ ^^ :-? B-) :-@ :-Z l-)

>
>
> Tourette's?


>> :| :-) ;-) ;o) :-( :-[ HELL NO





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On Jan 14, 11:35�pm, Ben Mann > wrote:
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>
>
>
>
>
> > "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:00:16 GMT, mmm wrote:

>
> >>> My problem is that I tend to pass wind in supermarkets. (not joking)
> >>> I used to ask myself why I was so nervous that I had to fart.
> >>> Then after discovering an article about people who can't handle 'too much
> >>> choice,' I realised that was me as I also tend to fart in Libraries,
> >>> bookshops, video shops, clothes shops etc.
> >>> I now put it down to growing up in a very small town with small shops and
> >>> not being accustomed to too much choice.
> >>> This also extends to my liking fairly simple meals too.

>
> >> hmm...do you fart in church? �seems like there's only one choice there.

>
> > What I want to know is, how many people fart when nervous? I have never heard
> > of this.

>
> I is quite common...


I'd think just the opposite, nervousness makes folks all tense and
they tighten up... just don't be nearby when they relax.
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> jj wrote:
>> Kathleen > wrote:
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>>> And next time I'm going to charge for the service. Granny boots,
>>> black tights and Utilikilt cost extra.

>>
>>
>> Mmmm HOT! Lol, Utilikilt. I've only seen these being "demo'd" at
>> tradeshows worn by strapping hairy men. For those who have never had
>> the "joy" these are kilts with many pockets. If I had to guess, I'd
>> say this product was pretty much doomed or "long tail" at best.

>
> This one came from the 'scratch and dent" defective rack... Small
> waist and big ass, at least for a guy.
>
> Fits me just fine. And pockets! Be still, my heart...
>

I think they look very useful; last I checked, the Utilikilt website had
lots of user-made videos extolling the wonders and virtues of the product
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On Jan 14, 11:35?pm, Ben Mann > wrote:
> cybercat explained :
>
>
>
>
>
> > "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:00:16 GMT, mmm wrote:

>
> >>> My problem is that I tend to pass wind in supermarkets. (not joking)
> >>> I used to ask myself why I was so nervous that I had to fart.
> >>> Then after discovering an article about people who can't handle 'too

much
> >>> choice,' I realised that was me as I also tend to fart in Libraries,
> >>> bookshops, video shops, clothes shops etc.
> >>> I now put it down to growing up in a very small town with small shops

and
> >>> not being accustomed to too much choice.
> >>> This also extends to my liking fairly simple meals too.

>
> >> hmm...do you fart in church? ?seems like there's only one choice there.

>
> > What I want to know is, how many people fart when nervous? I have never

heard
> > of this.

>
> I is quite common...


I'd think just the opposite, nervousness makes folks all tense and
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On Jan 15, 6:59�pm, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
>
> On Jan 14, 11:35?pm, Ben Mann > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > cybercat explained :

>
> > > "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> > >> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:00:16 GMT, mmm wrote:

>
> > >>> My problem is that I tend to pass wind in supermarkets. (not joking)
> > >>> I used to ask myself why I was so nervous that I had to fart.
> > >>> Then after discovering an article about people who can't handle 'too

> much
> > >>> choice,' I realised that was me as I also tend to fart in Libraries,
> > >>> bookshops, video shops, clothes shops etc.
> > >>> I now put it down to growing up in a very small town with small shops

> and
> > >>> not being accustomed to too much choice.
> > >>> This also extends to my liking fairly simple meals too.

>
> > >> hmm...do you fart in church? ?seems like there's only one choice there.

>
> > > What I want to know is, how many people fart when nervous? I have never

> heard
> > > of this.

>
> > I is quite common...

>
> I'd think just the opposite, nervousness makes folks all tense and
> they tighten up... just don't be nearby when they relax.
> -------------------
>
> GM replies:
>
> Like when Li'l Wayne relaxes...his butt plug oozes out...under real strain
> it can even become a deadly projectile!


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On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:52:56 -0800 (PST), Sheldon wrote:

> On Jan 15, 6:59�pm, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:


>> GM replies:
>>
>> Like when Li'l Wayne relaxes...his butt plug oozes out...under real strain
>> it can even become a deadly projectile!

>
> Duh'Weenie can take on an entire coil of polska kielbasa and still
> host a braunschweiger party for six.


*more* anal antics! you're quite the closet case, sheldon.

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