sf > wrote in news:mjoan415p8iqgkp1pneij3gffrkas15ger@
4ax.com:

> On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:37:02 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas
> > wrote:
>
>>sf > wrote in news:0bkan4hvu24hs49vml113efa9gb3762os1@
>>4ax.com:
>>>
>>> Obviously he's arguing with so many people, he can't keep them
>>> straight.
>>
>>And obviously, the fact that you have to resort to talking to one of
the
>>worst stalker/trolls there is, shows everyone what sort of person you
>>*really* are.
>
> Yeah, right.


Yep, it sure does. Either you did it deliberately, in which case you're
no better than they are, or you're just plain stoopid.



>>
>>But aside from that, "Obviously he's arguing with so many people"???
>>
>>I'm not "arguing" with anyone. I stated some *facts* to you, and
showed
>>you that you're a complete dumbass, and you obviously don't like that.
>>
> You're as full of bullshit as you've ever been.


Ooooooooooooo, don't like getting caught out, do you?? LOL!!!! :-)


>>
>>But anyways, here's your new found 'buddy' in most of it's identities.
>>I'm sure you'll have a captive audience with it.
>>
> Apparently I'm so important to you that I rock your world with every
> word. I should charge a fee.


ROFLMAO!! Yeah, here's a cyber dime, go buy another brain cell. The one
you've got is lonely.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


"And where is the Prince who can afford to so cover his country with
troops for its defense, as that ten thousand men descending from the
clouds, might not in many places do an infinite deal of mischief, before
a force could be brought together to repel them?"

Benjamin Franklin 1748

Arri London wrote:
> Given the personal wealth of the Obamas, doubt seriously the kids have
> even ever eaten any of the blue box stuff, other than at someone else's
> house. Or does the family have a reputation for eating that way?

I have no idea what they eat, other than the few items that have
been mentioned.

--
Jean B.

On Jan 20, 4:01*pm, PeterLucas > wrote:
> sf > wrote in news:mjoan415p8iqgkp1pneij3gffrkas15ger@
> 4ax.com:
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:37:02 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas
> > > wrote:
>
> >>sf > wrote in news:0bkan4hvu24hs49vml113efa9gb3762os1@
> >>4ax.com:
>
> >>> Obviously he's arguing with so many people, he can't keep them
> >>> straight.
>
> >>And obviously, the fact that you have to resort to talking to one of
> the
> >>worst stalker/trolls there is, shows everyone what sort of person you
> >>*really* are.
>
> > Yeah, right.
>
> Yep, it sure does. Either you did it deliberately, in which case you're
> no better than they are, or you're just plain stoopid.
>
>
>
>
>
> >>But aside from that, "Obviously he's arguing with so many people"???
>
> >>I'm not "arguing" with anyone. I stated some *facts* to you, and
> showed
> >>you that you're a complete dumbass, and you obviously don't like that.
>
> > You're as full of bullshit as you've ever been.
>
> Ooooooooooooo, don't like getting caught out, do you?? LOL!!!! :-)
>
>
>
> >>But anyways, here's your new found 'buddy' in most of it's identities.
> >>I'm sure you'll have a captive audience with it.
>
> > Apparently I'm so important to you that I rock your world with every
> > word. *I should charge a fee.
>
> ROFLMAO!! Yeah, here's a cyber dime, go buy another brain cell. The one
> you've got is lonely.
>
> --
> Peter Lucas
> Brisbane
> Australia
>
> "And where is the Prince who can afford to so cover his country with
> troops for its defense, as that ten thousand men descending from the
> clouds, might not in many places do an infinite deal of mischief, before
> a force could be brought together to repel them?"
>
> * Benjamin Franklin 1748

Hey Big brave Pete just got a "task" and I have to pass through
your area (albeit me from a Podunk no where as you called it )
How about we meet up and swap bone fides and Cheques for
Legacy .


You called it I am on my way only about 6000 Km out of my
way Mr International traveler super chef

here ya go put up or shut up
Can scan e tickets if you wish

On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:42:34 -0500, Jean B. wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:04:23 -0500, Jean B. wrote:
>>
>>> aem wrote:
>>>> On Jan 17, 10:50 am, Lynn from Fargo > wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 17, 10:54 am, Chemiker > wrote:> On Sat, 17 Jan >
>>>>>> Well, I can safely say he ain't from Texas. Except for the missing
>>>>>> cinnamon, this could pass for Skyline. They eat funny up there.
>>>>> . . .
>>>>> Whoa! That ain't even CLOSE to Cincinnati Chili! Where's the
>>>>> chocolate, the coffee, the 27 other ingredients? Over RICE? With
>>>>> TURKEY? I love Obama, but I thought he was supposed to be a Foodie.
>>>>> That recipe sounds like it was written by a spinmeister to keep the
>>>>> health nuts happy!
>>>> Not Texas chili, not Cincinnati chili, not the kind of chili you spend
>>>> weekend hours creating. I'd say it's a typical middle of the road
>>>> fast weeknight 'let's throw together something that reminds us of
>>>> chili' dish. IOW the kind of thing that's made all the time in
>>>> kitchens all around the country. -aem
>>> I looked this us because I wondered whether it was like such
>>> recipes our moms might have made. The vinegar is very different
>>> (for me, anyway). I guess I have one foot in each chili camp with
>>> the one mom made (with beans, tomatoes, etc.) being a comfort
>>> food, and the "more-authentic" ones being something else.
>>
>> i don't think vinegar is that out-of-the way in chili. it's used in the
>> recipe i usually work from.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> I have never had it in chili. I DO like vinegar, so it might be
> interesting.

it's not a noticeable taste of vinegar, just a muted note. i use a
tablespoon in a recipe for about a pound of beef (chunks, not ground).

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:01:30 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas wrote:

> sf > wrote in news:mjoan415p8iqgkp1pneij3gffrkas15ger@
> 4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:37:02 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>sf > wrote in news:0bkan4hvu24hs49vml113efa9gb3762os1@
>>>4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>> Obviously he's arguing with so many people, he can't keep them
>>>> straight.
>>>
>>>And obviously, the fact that you have to resort to talking to one of
> the
>>>worst stalker/trolls there is, shows everyone what sort of person you
>>>*really* are.
>>
>> Yeah, right.
>
> Yep, it sure does. Either you did it deliberately, in which case you're
> no better than they are, or you're just plain stoopid.
>

lucas, nobody gives a **** who you think we should 'talk' too. grow up,
he-man.

blake

On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:58:18 -0700, Arri London wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:08:29 -0500, Jean B. wrote:
>>
>>> blake murphy wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>>
>>> I wonder just how much he and the family will be able to eat
>>> "normal" food?
>>
>> as far as i know, they can request whatever they like. i'm guessing,
>> though, if they ask for mac 'n' cheese, it won't be from a box.
>>
>> so yes, 'normal' food, but probably very well-prepared. if they *must*
>> have box macaroni, the living quarters has a kitchen.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Given the personal wealth of the Obamas, doubt seriously the kids have
> even ever eaten any of the blue box stuff, other than at someone else's
> house. Or does the family have a reputation for eating that way?

hard to say, but some folks here who obviously like good food have
occasional kraft cravings. but who knows how tyrannical the young
daughters are (although i suspect they get over on dad more than mom).

your pal,
blake

dsi1 wrote:
> On Jan 18, 12:40 pm, flitterbit > wrote:
>> blake murphy wrote:
>>> On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:40:48 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>> Jean B. wrote:
>>>>> As an offshoot of another thread, I thought I'd rather cook
>>>>> something that isn't glitzy, something that Obama enjoys. Turns
>>>>> out he is reported to like takeout from a pizzeria, shrimp and
>>>>> grits, and his own chili. His recipe is available at:
>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...recipe_n_89826....
>>>>> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
>>>>> do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
>>>>> my own small way.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jean B.
>>>> I always like to see other people's chili recipes. Unlike the Chili Cookoff
>>>> folks who have a set of rules and personal stringent guidlines, the rest of
>>>> us make chili the way we like it, the way Mom made it, in general the way it
>>>> was made where we grew up. Very little tomato in Obama's -- not sure I
>>>> would like it that way. But then my chili can vary by what is growing in
>>>> the garden and what is in the cupboard.
>>>> Janet
>>> it's more public relations than anything else. wingers would scream if he
>>> used exotic dried peppers or the like and call it further evidence he's
>>> some kind of 'elitist,' as if that's a sin.
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>> >
>> >
>> Exactly; I've wondered for quite a while now why so many people think
>> there's something wrong with striving for excellence.
>
> There's nothing wrong with striving for excellence. However, it's my
> belief that most folks like to eat the foods that they enjoyed when
> they were growing up. Mr. Obama stated that he would like to go to
> Zippy's or Rainbow Drive Inn when he was in Hawaii. I doubt this was a
> public relations ploy or putting up a folksy front for the crowd. The
> reality is that you can't get this food anywhere else in the world.
> I'm sure that's true with most folks that have a taste for their foods
> they had when they were growing up - you have to go home to get it.
>
> OTOH, the foods you enjoyed as a kid has little to do with one's
> striving for excellence even though they are plain and simple. I
> remember going to the tiny Baskins-Robbins store on the corner of
> Punahou and S. King street years ago that Barack Obama used to work
> and remember a tall, enthusiastic black kid that stuck out like a sore
> thumb. It would have been tough to believe that a black kid from
> Hawaii could be president but that's where we stand today.
>
> What you guys should remember is that Barack Obama is not really a
> black guy - he's a hapa dude. Typically those folks will be able to
> identify with the cultures of both parents but not really feel truly a
> part of either. Of course, he also has much experience with the Asian
> cultures too, having grown up in Hawaii. So it seems that the US has
> picked as it's president it's first multi-cultural leader - this outta
> get interesting.
>
>
Your points are all valid, but my comment was simply a response to how
the word "elitist" has morphed into something negative. As far as I'm
concerned, Mr. Obama should eat whatever he likes because he enjoys it,
without worrying about whether or not his choices will be deemed by
anyone to be lowbrow, highbrow, or somewhere in between.

blake murphy wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:42:34 -0500, Jean B. wrote:
>> I have never had it in chili. I DO like vinegar, so it might be
>> interesting.
>
> it's not a noticeable taste of vinegar, just a muted note. i use a
> tablespoon in a recipe for about a pound of beef (chunks, not ground).
>
> your pal,
> blake

By now, I both made and tried this. I really LIKED the vinegar.
I didn't like the extra cumin and ended up adding ancho powder to
compensate. Among other changes. Worth a repeat.

--
Jean B.

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:45:01 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

>blake murphy wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:42:34 -0500, Jean B. wrote:
>>> I have never had it in chili. I DO like vinegar, so it might be
>>> interesting.
>>
>> it's not a noticeable taste of vinegar, just a muted note. i use a
>> tablespoon in a recipe for about a pound of beef (chunks, not ground).
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
>By now, I both made and tried this. I really LIKED the vinegar.
>I didn't like the extra cumin and ended up adding ancho powder to
>compensate. Among other changes. Worth a repeat.

I like to put more of everything, but I've never tried (or even heard
of) vinegar. So, for those of us who don't measure... just a
"splash"? I prefer cider, does it require white vinegar?


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:45:01 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
> >blake murphy wrote:
> >> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:42:34 -0500, Jean B. wrote:
> >>> I have never had it in chili. I DO like vinegar, so it might be
> >>> interesting.
> >>
> >> it's not a noticeable taste of vinegar, just a muted note. i use a
> >> tablespoon in a recipe for about a pound of beef (chunks, not ground).
> >>
> >> your pal,
> >> blake
> >
> >By now, I both made and tried this. I really LIKED the vinegar.
> >I didn't like the extra cumin and ended up adding ancho powder to
> >compensate. Among other changes. Worth a repeat.
>
> I like to put more of everything, but I've never tried (or even heard
> of) vinegar. So, for those of us who don't measure... just a
> "splash"? I prefer cider, does it require white vinegar?

One splash. Red wine vinegar. Sometimes I use leftover red wine,
several splashes.

I made chili on Tuesday. Couldn't find any red wine vinegar, so I used
white wine vinegar.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

sf wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:45:01 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> blake murphy wrote:
>>> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:42:34 -0500, Jean B. wrote:
>>>> I have never had it in chili. I DO like vinegar, so it might be
>>>> interesting.
>>> it's not a noticeable taste of vinegar, just a muted note. i use a
>>> tablespoon in a recipe for about a pound of beef (chunks, not ground).
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>> By now, I both made and tried this. I really LIKED the vinegar.
>> I didn't like the extra cumin and ended up adding ancho powder to
>> compensate. Among other changes. Worth a repeat.
>
> I like to put more of everything, but I've never tried (or even heard
> of) vinegar. So, for those of us who don't measure... just a
> "splash"? I prefer cider, does it require white vinegar?
>
>
The recipe contains 3 Tbsps of red wine vinegar. I, too, had
never heard of vinegar in chili, but it was great. The turmeric
added a nice color too....

--
Jean B.

Dan Abel wrote:
> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:45:01 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>>> blake murphy wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:42:34 -0500, Jean B. wrote:
>>>>> I have never had it in chili. I DO like vinegar, so it might be
>>>>> interesting.
>>>> it's not a noticeable taste of vinegar, just a muted note. i use a
>>>> tablespoon in a recipe for about a pound of beef (chunks, not ground).
>>>>
>>>> your pal,
>>>> blake
>>> By now, I both made and tried this. I really LIKED the vinegar.
>>> I didn't like the extra cumin and ended up adding ancho powder to
>>> compensate. Among other changes. Worth a repeat.
>> I like to put more of everything, but I've never tried (or even heard
>> of) vinegar. So, for those of us who don't measure... just a
>> "splash"? I prefer cider, does it require white vinegar?
>
> One splash. Red wine vinegar. Sometimes I use leftover red wine,
> several splashes.
>
> I made chili on Tuesday. Couldn't find any red wine vinegar, so I used
> white wine vinegar.
>
Heh! I was making the recipe and found I had almost NO red wine
vinegar. I had to augment it with a more esoteric RWV.

--
Jean B.

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:45:01 -0500, Jean B. wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:42:34 -0500, Jean B. wrote:
>>> I have never had it in chili. I DO like vinegar, so it might be
>>> interesting.
>>
>> it's not a noticeable taste of vinegar, just a muted note. i use a
>> tablespoon in a recipe for about a pound of beef (chunks, not ground).
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> By now, I both made and tried this. I really LIKED the vinegar.
> I didn't like the extra cumin and ended up adding ancho powder to
> compensate. Among other changes. Worth a repeat.

chili recipes are really made to dick around with. there are lots of
things you can do.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:01:45 -0800, sf wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:45:01 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>>blake murphy wrote:
>>> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:42:34 -0500, Jean B. wrote:
>>>> I have never had it in chili. I DO like vinegar, so it might be
>>>> interesting.
>>>
>>> it's not a noticeable taste of vinegar, just a muted note. i use a
>>> tablespoon in a recipe for about a pound of beef (chunks, not ground).
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>
>>By now, I both made and tried this. I really LIKED the vinegar.
>>I didn't like the extra cumin and ended up adding ancho powder to
>>compensate. Among other changes. Worth a repeat.
>
> I like to put more of everything, but I've never tried (or even heard
> of) vinegar. So, for those of us who don't measure... just a
> "splash"? I prefer cider, does it require white vinegar?

i use cider vinegar. i think it has a more pleasant, less harsh taste.
but then i usually use cider or rice vinegar (in different things, of
course).

i did buy a big bottle of white to use in cleaning things, but strangely
enough, it is unopened after about a year. i wonder why that is?

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:45:01 -0500, Jean B. wrote:
>
>> blake murphy wrote:
>>> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:42:34 -0500, Jean B. wrote:
>>>> I have never had it in chili. I DO like vinegar, so it might be
>>>> interesting.
>>> it's not a noticeable taste of vinegar, just a muted note. i use a
>>> tablespoon in a recipe for about a pound of beef (chunks, not ground).
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>> By now, I both made and tried this. I really LIKED the vinegar.
>> I didn't like the extra cumin and ended up adding ancho powder to
>> compensate. Among other changes. Worth a repeat.
>
> chili recipes are really made to dick around with. there are lots of
> things you can do.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Purists would probably disagree. But I think in terms of two
categories, one being more "authentic" and the other being the
sort you mention.

--
Jean B.

blake murphy wrote:
>
> i use cider vinegar. i think it has a more pleasant, less harsh taste.
> but then i usually use cider or rice vinegar (in different things, of
> course).
>
> i did buy a big bottle of white to use in cleaning things, but strangely
> enough, it is unopened after about a year. i wonder why that is?


White vinegar is great for washing ceramic tile floors. my wife uses
red wine vinegar for salad dressing and I use it in a dish with Dijon
mustard and mango chutney for chicken breasts, onion an red peppers. I
use apple cider vinegar to make cilantro apricot chutney.

Apple cider vinegar is also a great remedy for stomach ailments. When
everything else has failed, knock back an tablespoon of that stuff and
you will start feeling better in minutes. I confess to having trouble
swallowing straight vinegar, but if I am desperate enough I can force
myself.

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:30:11 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>>
>> i use cider vinegar. i think it has a more pleasant, less harsh taste.
>> but then i usually use cider or rice vinegar (in different things, of
>> course).
>>
>> i did buy a big bottle of white to use in cleaning things, but strangely
>> enough, it is unopened after about a year. i wonder why that is?
>
> White vinegar is great for washing ceramic tile floors. my wife uses
> red wine vinegar for salad dressing and I use it in a dish with Dijon
> mustard and mango chutney for chicken breasts, onion an red peppers. I
> use apple cider vinegar to make cilantro apricot chutney.
>
> Apple cider vinegar is also a great remedy for stomach ailments. When
> everything else has failed, knock back an tablespoon of that stuff and
> you will start feeling better in minutes. I confess to having trouble
> swallowing straight vinegar, but if I am desperate enough I can force
> myself.

i've heard of this, or as a general 'health tonic.' what kind of
ailments? it doesn't sound like it would do much for 'sour stomach.'

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:25:06 -0500, Jean B. wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:45:01 -0500, Jean B. wrote:
>>
>>> blake murphy wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:42:34 -0500, Jean B. wrote:
>>>>> I have never had it in chili. I DO like vinegar, so it might be
>>>>> interesting.
>>>> it's not a noticeable taste of vinegar, just a muted note. i use a
>>>> tablespoon in a recipe for about a pound of beef (chunks, not ground).
>>>>
>>>> your pal,
>>>> blake
>>> By now, I both made and tried this. I really LIKED the vinegar.
>>> I didn't like the extra cumin and ended up adding ancho powder to
>>> compensate. Among other changes. Worth a repeat.
>>
>> chili recipes are really made to dick around with. there are lots of
>> things you can do.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Purists would probably disagree. But I think in terms of two
> categories, one being more "authentic" and the other being the
> sort you mention.

a plausible argument for 'authenticity' can be made for some dishes, but
'chili' is so generic - and so rife with contention - that it's probably
not worth worrying about. just don't make it with canned pork and beans is
all i ask.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:30:11 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> blake murphy wrote:
>>> i use cider vinegar. i think it has a more pleasant, less harsh taste.
>>> but then i usually use cider or rice vinegar (in different things, of
>>> course).
>>>
>>> i did buy a big bottle of white to use in cleaning things, but strangely
>>> enough, it is unopened after about a year. i wonder why that is?
>> White vinegar is great for washing ceramic tile floors. my wife uses
>> red wine vinegar for salad dressing and I use it in a dish with Dijon
>> mustard and mango chutney for chicken breasts, onion an red peppers. I
>> use apple cider vinegar to make cilantro apricot chutney.
>>
>> Apple cider vinegar is also a great remedy for stomach ailments. When
>> everything else has failed, knock back an tablespoon of that stuff and
>> you will start feeling better in minutes. I confess to having trouble
>> swallowing straight vinegar, but if I am desperate enough I can force
>> myself.
>
> i've heard of this, or as a general 'health tonic.' what kind of
> ailments? it doesn't sound like it would do much for 'sour stomach.'
>
> your pal,
> blake

My daughter claims balsamic vinegar wards off ailments.
Therefore, she will drink a shot glass of it when her school chums
have been hacking all over her.

--
Jean B.

blake murphy wrote:
> a plausible argument for 'authenticity' can be made for some dishes, but
> 'chili' is so generic - and so rife with contention - that it's probably
> not worth worrying about. just don't make it with canned pork and beans is
> all i ask.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Just don't say that around our Texans!

--
Jean B.

blake murphy wrote:
>
>> Apple cider vinegar is also a great remedy for stomach ailments. When
>> everything else has failed, knock back an tablespoon of that stuff and
>> you will start feeling better in minutes. I confess to having trouble
>> swallowing straight vinegar, but if I am desperate enough I can force
>> myself.
>
> i've heard of this, or as a general 'health tonic.' what kind of
> ailments? it doesn't sound like it would do much for 'sour stomach.

You might be surprised. The first time I had it I had been suffering
from "stomach flu", puking, nausea and the trots for days. Nothing I
tried provided any relief. I finally agreed to try my whacko health food
fanatic sister in law's advice. I poured some in a shot glass, held my
nose and knocked it back, fulling expecting it to come flying right
back. I was not only surprised that I was able to hold it down, but
withing minutes I was feeling better.

On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:19:10 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>>
>>> Apple cider vinegar is also a great remedy for stomach ailments. When
>>> everything else has failed, knock back an tablespoon of that stuff and
>>> you will start feeling better in minutes. I confess to having trouble
>>> swallowing straight vinegar, but if I am desperate enough I can force
>>> myself.
>>
>> i've heard of this, or as a general 'health tonic.' what kind of
>> ailments? it doesn't sound like it would do much for 'sour stomach.
>
> You might be surprised. The first time I had it I had been suffering
> from "stomach flu", puking, nausea and the trots for days. Nothing I
> tried provided any relief. I finally agreed to try my whacko health food
> fanatic sister in law's advice. I poured some in a shot glass, held my
> nose and knocked it back, fulling expecting it to come flying right
> back. I was not only surprised that I was able to hold it down, but
> withing minutes I was feeling better.

oddly enough, my stomach is usually in good shape. but i will keep this in
mind.

your pal,
blake