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DAMN!! Second place is the first loser :-/



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In article >,
ChattyCathy > wrote:

> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
> Thanks go to Andy for this survey...

I use them when I'm in the mood. :-) I consider them to be fun and am
rather good at them thanks to dad's training.
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> >
> > The Ranger
> >
> >
>
>
>
> DAMN!! Second place is the first loser :-/

Don't feel bad... Even when wasting hours on usenet over a weekend, I've
still never managed to win. <g>
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ChattyCathy wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
> Thanks go to Andy for this survey...

Since I learned how to use chopsticks, I won't eat Asian food without
them. Even when I make the stuff myself at home.

ChattyCathy said...

> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
> Thanks go to Andy for this survey...


Andy <--- The "Can I have a fork" all thumbs guy
Voter #21

In article >,
"l, not -l" > wrote:

> On 19-Jan-2009, Andy > wrote:
>
> > Andy <--- The "Can I have a fork" all thumbs guy
> > Voter #21
>
> I'm with you on the "Can I have a fork"; though, perhaps, I have fewer
> thumbs. I've just never understood the "charm" of chopsticks; sure, if I
> lived in a place and culture that had only chopsticks, I'm sure I'd use them
> competently. But, I have all kinds of better suited utensils available to
> me; why would I choose choose chopsticks instead of a fork or spoon.

Because they are fun. :-)

YMMV as always...
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ChattyCathy wrote on Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:52:01 +0200:

> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

> Thanks go to Andy for this survey...
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy

I see that a lot of others are as confident of their skills as me but I
don't reach the level of the mother of a friend of my daughter's who
cooked with large chopsticks and even could cut meat and vegetables in
the wok with them.

I may have mentioned that my kids were using them at 8 and 10 and could
bring out the whole staff to see when we went to a Chinese restaurant in
the sticks (not chop).

That reminds me of something OT that I might mention. In a local strip
mall, there are a Chinese and a Kosher restaurant next to each other and
I have twice seen a guy of apparent Chinese ancestry coming out of the
Kosher place with carry-out boxes and going into the Chinese restaurant.
The reasons are interesting to speculate about.
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Potomac, Maryland

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ChattyCathy wrote:

> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
> Thanks go to Andy for this survey...

My uncle and aunt were stationed in Okinawa and sent us all sorts of
cool and unusual things for birthdays and Christmas.

One of my gifts for my 8th birthday was a pair of black enamel
chopsticks inlaid with abalone shell. They came with a set of
instructions and I taught myself to use them by following the directions
and looking at the pictures.

Apparently what I learned was a polite, formal variation which has
served me well in the years since.

Omelet wrote on Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:13:47 -0600:

>> On 19-Jan-2009, Andy > wrote:
>>
> >> Andy <--- The "Can I have a fork" all thumbs guy
> >> Voter #21
>>
>> I'm with you on the "Can I have a fork"; though, perhaps, I
>> have fewer thumbs. I've just never understood the "charm" of
>> chopsticks; sure, if I lived in a place and culture that had
>> only chopsticks, I'm sure I'd use them competently. But, I
>> have all kinds of better suited utensils available to me; why
>> would I choose choose chopsticks instead of a fork or spoon.

> Because they are fun. :-)

> YMMV as always...

Just to stoke things up again :-) It's easier to eat spaghetti with
chopsticks than with a fork.
--

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Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Janet Wilder wrote:
> ChattyCathy wrote:
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>
>> Thanks go to Andy for this survey...
>
> Since I learned how to use chopsticks, I won't eat Asian food without
> them. Even when I make the stuff myself at home.

We use them when we eat Pho.

Becca

Kathleen wrote on Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:35:43 -0600:

>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>
>> Thanks go to Andy for this survey...

> My uncle and aunt were stationed in Okinawa and sent us all
> sorts of cool and unusual things for birthdays and Christmas.

> One of my gifts for my 8th birthday was a pair of black enamel
> chopsticks inlaid with abalone shell. They came with a set of
> instructions and I taught myself to use them by following the
> directions and looking at the pictures.

In passing, the operation of the upper chopstick is very similar to
using a pencil and the lower one does not move. I've found that pointing
this out to people who have not previously used them makes learning
quite fast.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Becca wrote on Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:38:25 -0600:

> Janet Wilder wrote:
>> ChattyCathy wrote:
>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>>
>>> Thanks go to Andy for this survey...
>>
>> Since I learned how to use chopsticks, I won't eat Asian food
>> without them. Even when I make the stuff myself at home.

> We use them when we eat Pho.

Not to finish the soup surely :-)


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Potomac, Maryland

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James Silverton wrote:
> Becca wrote on Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:38:25 -0600:
>
>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>> ChattyCathy wrote:
>>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>>>
>>>> Thanks go to Andy for this survey...
>>>
>>> Since I learned how to use chopsticks, I won't eat Asian food
>>> without them. Even when I make the stuff myself at home.
>
>> We use them when we eat Pho.
>
> Not to finish the soup surely :-)

LOL

Becca

James Silverton wrote:


> That reminds me of something OT that I might mention. In a local
> strip mall, there are a Chinese and a Kosher restaurant next to each
> other and I have twice seen a guy of apparent Chinese ancestry coming
> out of the Kosher place with carry-out boxes and going into the
> Chinese restaurant. The reasons are interesting to speculate about.

It's not unusual for nearby restaurants to swap food with each other
for the employees to eat. They like a change of pace.




Brian

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won't shut up.
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"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
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>
> Thanks go to Andy for this survey...
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy

I believe Chopsticks are essential to certain kinds of food.

Yakisoba for example can not be enjoyed with a fork.

Dimitri

James Silverton said...

> Omelet wrote on Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:13:47 -0600:
>
>>> On 19-Jan-2009, Andy > wrote:
>>>
>> >> Andy <--- The "Can I have a fork" all thumbs guy
>> >> Voter #21
>>>
>>> I'm with you on the "Can I have a fork"; though, perhaps, I
>>> have fewer thumbs. I've just never understood the "charm" of
>>> chopsticks; sure, if I lived in a place and culture that had
>>> only chopsticks, I'm sure I'd use them competently. But, I
>>> have all kinds of better suited utensils available to me; why
>>> would I choose choose chopsticks instead of a fork or spoon.
>
>> Because they are fun. :-)
>
>> YMMV as always...
>
> Just to stoke things up again :-) It's easier to eat spaghetti with
> chopsticks than with a fork.


JAMES!!!

When I tried my first bowl of pho, if the waiter hadn't kindly offered me a
fork, I might've been there for a month of Sundays finishing the bowlful.

Therefore I can safely declare your claim FALSE.

Andy

Andy wrote on Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:16:21 +0000 (UTC):

>> Omelet wrote on Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:13:47 -0600:
>>
>>>> On 19-Jan-2009, Andy > wrote:
>>>>
>> >>> Andy <--- The "Can I have a fork" all thumbs guy
>> >>> Voter #21
>>>>
>>>> I'm with you on the "Can I have a fork"; though, perhaps, I
>>>> have fewer thumbs. I've just never understood the "charm"
>>>> of chopsticks; sure, if I lived in a place and culture that
>>>> had only chopsticks, I'm sure I'd use them competently.
>>>> But, I have all kinds of better suited utensils available
>>>> to me; why would I choose choose chopsticks instead of a
>>>> fork or spoon.
>>
>>> Because they are fun. :-)
>>
>>> YMMV as always...
>>
>> Just to stoke things up again :-) It's easier to eat
>> spaghetti with chopsticks than with a fork.

> JAMES!!!

> When I tried my first bowl of pho, if the waiter hadn't kindly
> offered me a fork, I might've been there for a month of
> Sundays finishing the bowlful.

> Therefore I can safely declare your claim FALSE.

For you perhaps, but not for me (I've tested it) and anyone who has
learned to use chopsticks properly:-) The Thais use a spoon and fork for
general eating but not for long noodles.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

James Silverton said...

> Andy wrote on Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:16:21 +0000 (UTC):
>
>>> Omelet wrote on Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:13:47 -0600:
>>>
>>>>> On 19-Jan-2009, Andy > wrote:
>>>>>
>>> >>> Andy <--- The "Can I have a fork" all thumbs guy
>>> >>> Voter #21
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm with you on the "Can I have a fork"; though, perhaps, I
>>>>> have fewer thumbs. I've just never understood the "charm"
>>>>> of chopsticks; sure, if I lived in a place and culture that
>>>>> had only chopsticks, I'm sure I'd use them competently.
>>>>> But, I have all kinds of better suited utensils available
>>>>> to me; why would I choose choose chopsticks instead of a
>>>>> fork or spoon.
>>>
>>>> Because they are fun. :-)
>>>
>>>> YMMV as always...
>>>
>>> Just to stoke things up again :-) It's easier to eat
>>> spaghetti with chopsticks than with a fork.
>
>> JAMES!!!
>
>> When I tried my first bowl of pho, if the waiter hadn't kindly
>> offered me a fork, I might've been there for a month of
>> Sundays finishing the bowlful.
>
>> Therefore I can safely declare your claim FALSE.
>
> For you perhaps, but not for me (I've tested it) and anyone who has
> learned to use chopsticks properly:-) The Thais use a spoon and fork for
> general eating but not for long noodles.


James,

Yeah, I can imagine in skilled hands it's magic, just not in mine,
obviously!

Best,

Andy

ChattyCathy wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
I do very well with chopsticks but I don't enjoy eating with them so I
never use them except on the very rare occasions at Chinese
restaurants strictly as a form of disingenuous politeness when evryone
else I'm with opts to use them so I'm not made to feel like I'm being
the oddball, although many times I simply refuse to ruin my meal by
eating with what amounts to forceps... I'm a knife, fork, spoon, and
fingers person... I see no chopsticks on the rfc tee shirt/cookbook.
And most of the foods I prefer require a knife... and I don't like all
my food cut up into small bits by someone else (turns meat into
mystery meat), I don't view that as very sophisticated, that's how one
prepares food for infants and the senile.

Sheldon wrote:
> I don't view that as very sophisticated, that's how one
> prepares food for infants and the senile.

Ummm... hello!

On Jan 19, 10:52�am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
> Thanks go to Andy for this survey...
> --
> Cheers �
> Chatty Cathy

Living in Hawaii, we all learned to use chopsticks quite well. Now of
course , in Texas, there is not the same need to be efficient with
them. I do remember once, when patting myself on the back for my
expert usage, a friend informed me until I could eat Tacos, with
chopsticks-- I really wasn't any good.

Rosie

rosie > wrote:

> I do remember once, when patting myself on the back for my
> expert usage, a friend informed me until I could eat Tacos, with
> chopsticks-- I really wasn't any good.

Why, yes. Nothing to do with Texas or tacos. Consider that Peking duck
slices together with other ingredients are ideally supposed to be
wrapped in Mandarin pancakes and eaten with chopsticks.

Victor

"rosie" wrote

>Living in Hawaii, we all learned to use chopsticks quite well. Now of
>course , in Texas, there is not the same need to be efficient with
>them. I do remember once, when patting myself on the back for my
>expert usage, a friend informed me until I could eat Tacos, with
>chopsticks-- I really wasn't any good.

LOL ! Soft ones though would be easy. Went to a mexican restraunt in
Shimoda once. Wasnt very authentic, but the food was tastey for all of
that. Yes, had a fish softshell taco with chopsticks. Folks were eating
nachos by using the chopsticks to dip them into the sauces ;-) When in
rome... (or Shimoda...).

James Silverton wrote:
>
> That reminds me of something OT that I might mention. In a local strip
> mall, there are a Chinese and a Kosher restaurant next to each other and
> I have twice seen a guy of apparent Chinese ancestry coming out of the
> Kosher place with carry-out boxes and going into the Chinese restaurant.
> The reasons are interesting to speculate about.



Everyone gets a pastrami or corned beef craving once in a while, and you
don't often find those in a Chinese restaurant. (Maybe even a knish!)

gloria p

On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:52:01 +0200, ChattyCathy
> shouted from the highest rooftop:

>http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
>Thanks go to Andy for this survey...

Hell ... I can't remember when I haven't used chopsticks - and I'm 67!

Guess I learned to use them with Asian food at a young age because my
mom and step-dad were very much into trying all sorts of food,
including Asian.

But one of my favourite Asian dishes is Ramen and I notice that
Koreans do not use chopsticks to eat it. Makes sense since a fork and
spoon work much better with that dish, so that's what I use instead of
chopsticks at my favourite little Korean place in town.

I also use chopsticks for my salad dinners (big, main course salads
with tuna or smoked fish or mussels in them). And when I lived in
Hawaii and sharing a house with my surfing pals I put a little notch
in one of my sharp Japanese chopsticks so I could spear whole Cherry
Tomatoes before anyone else at the table could get them..

We have around a dozen sets of chopsticks in the kitchen, from the
finer, sharp pointed Japanese types up to the large cooking ones. I
also have a nice collection of antique chopstick rests for the table.


--

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Janet Wilder wrote:

> ChattyCathy wrote:
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>
>> Thanks go to Andy for this survey...
>
> Since I learned how to use chopsticks, I won't eat Asian food without
> them. Even when I make the stuff myself at home.

Since I mastered them just for the sake of the challenge, I don't use them
any more.

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l, not -l wrote:

>
> On 19-Jan-2009, Andy > wrote:
>
>> Andy <--- The "Can I have a fork" all thumbs guy Voter #21
>
> I'm with you on the "Can I have a fork"; though, perhaps, I have fewer
> thumbs. I've just never understood the "charm" of chopsticks; sure, if I
> lived in a place and culture that had only chopsticks, I'm sure I'd use
> them competently. But, I have all kinds of better suited utensils
> available to me; why would I choose choose chopsticks instead of a fork or
> spoon.

I'm with you. I'm not into devolution.

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l, not -l wrote:

>
> On 19-Jan-2009, "James Silverton" > wrote:
>
>> >> I'm with you on the "Can I have a fork"; though, perhaps, I have
>> >> fewer thumbs. I've just never understood the "charm" of chopsticks;
>> >> sure, if I lived in a place and culture that had only chopsticks, I'm
>> >> sure I'd use them competently. But, I have all kinds of better
>> >> suited utensils available to me; why would I choose choose chopsticks
>> >> instead of a fork or spoon.
>>
>> > Because they are fun. :-)
>>
>> > YMMV as always...
>>
>> Just to stoke things up again :-) It's easier to eat spaghetti with
>> chopsticks than with a fork.
>
> Perhaps; however, I have absolutely no difficulty in eating spaghetti with
> a fork - I am an accomplished spaghetti twirler. I suspect the sauce
> covered spaghetti dangling from chopsticks might also make a mess of my
> beard 8-)>

I never make spaghetti. Sure, I make pasta. But it's short and
convenient.

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In article >,
"James Silverton" > wrote:

> That reminds me of something OT that I might mention. In a local strip
> mall, there are a Chinese and a Kosher restaurant next to each other and
> I have twice seen a guy of apparent Chinese ancestry coming out of the
> Kosher place with carry-out boxes and going into the Chinese restaurant.
> The reasons are interesting to speculate about.

We were walking around Chinatown in San Francisco one day, and spied a
restaurant. Not surprisingly, it was a Chinese restaurant. But, it was
also kosher. And vegetarian.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-
:

> In article > ,
> PeterLucas > wrote:
>
>> "The Ranger" > wrote in news:-
>> andwidth:
>>
>> > ChattyCathy > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>> >
>> > Helmet please.
>> >
>> > The Ranger
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> DAMN!! Second place is the first loser :-/
>
> Don't feel bad... Even when wasting hours on usenet over a weekend,
I've
> still never managed to win. <g>



Yeahnahbut......... I have to be up around *3am* each and every time to
try and get a crack at it....... good thing I work 24/7 ;-)



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


"And where is the Prince who can afford to so cover his country with
troops for its defense, as that ten thousand men descending from the
clouds, might not in many places do an infinite deal of mischief, before
a force could be brought together to repel them?"

Benjamin Franklin 1748

On Jan 19, 11:52*am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
> Thanks go to Andy for this survey...
> --
> Cheers *
> Chatty Cathy

I can't use them to eat, but they are handy for:

stirring stuff in a tall, narrow vessel, e.g. powdered milk and water,
propping open the lid a tad on a saucepan,
propping up a small plant,
fishing anchovies out of the can,
mixing separated tahini.

These are just the last few things I've used em for in the last few
days.

Dan wrote on Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:12:54 -0800:

>> That reminds me of something OT that I might mention. In a
>> local strip mall, there are a Chinese and a Kosher restaurant
>> next to each other and I have twice seen a guy of apparent
>> Chinese ancestry coming out of the Kosher place with
>> carry-out boxes and going into the Chinese restaurant. The
>> reasons are interesting to speculate about.

> We were walking around Chinatown in San Francisco one day, and
> spied a restaurant. Not surprisingly, it was a Chinese
> restaurant. But, it was also kosher. And vegetarian.

Did it promise not to use MSG too? :-)


--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Gloria P wrote:
>
> James Silverton wrote:
> >
> > That reminds me of something OT that I might mention. In a local strip
> > mall, there are a Chinese and a Kosher restaurant next to each other and
> > I have twice seen a guy of apparent Chinese ancestry coming out of the
> > Kosher place with carry-out boxes and going into the Chinese restaurant.
> > The reasons are interesting to speculate about.
>
> Everyone gets a pastrami or corned beef craving once in a while, and you
> don't often find those in a Chinese restaurant. (Maybe even a knish!)
>
> gloria p

OTOH there a couple kosher Chinese restaurants in London. Haven't eaten
in them however.
Easy enough to make Chinese food kosher though: no pork or shellfish/sea
urchins etc, other meats kosher and there's no real mixing of dairy and
meat anyway.

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
...
> Omelet wrote on Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:13:47 -0600:
>
>>> On 19-Jan-2009, Andy > wrote:
>>>
>> >> Andy <--- The "Can I have a fork" all thumbs guy
>> >> Voter #21
>>>
>>> I'm with you on the "Can I have a fork"; though, perhaps, I
>>> have fewer thumbs. I've just never understood the "charm" of
>>> chopsticks; sure, if I lived in a place and culture that had
>>> only chopsticks, I'm sure I'd use them competently. But, I
>>> have all kinds of better suited utensils available to me; why
>>> would I choose choose chopsticks instead of a fork or spoon.
>
>> Because they are fun. :-)
>
>> YMMV as always...
>
> Just to stoke things up again :-) It's easier to eat spaghetti with
> chopsticks than with a fork.

I think it's only easier to eat a meatball with a chopstick.

Cheryl wrote on Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:30:17 -0500:


> "James Silverton" > wrote in
> message ...
>> Omelet wrote on Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:13:47 -0600:
>>
>>>> On 19-Jan-2009, Andy > wrote:
>>>>
>> >>> Andy <--- The "Can I have a fork" all thumbs guy
>> >>> Voter #21
>>>>
>>>> I'm with you on the "Can I have a fork"; though, perhaps, I
>>>> have fewer thumbs. I've just never understood the "charm" of
>>>> chopsticks; sure, if I lived in a place and culture that
>>>> had only chopsticks, I'm sure I'd use them competently. But, I have
>>>> all kinds of better suited utensils available
>>>> to me; why would I choose choose chopsticks instead of a
>>>> fork or spoon.
>>
>>> Because they are fun. :-)
>>
>>> YMMV as always...
>>
>> Just to stoke things up again :-) It's easier to eat
>> spaghetti with chopsticks than with a fork.


>I think it's only easier to eat a meatball with a chopstick.

***One*** chopstick to spear it , I would say! I wasn't making a
generalization about Italian food. Come to think of it, spaghetti with
meatballs is not an Italian dish but an American one!

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

ChattyCathy > wrote:

> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
> Thanks go to Andy for this survey...

Figures.

But I'm pretty opinionated about sticks vs. forks. Forks rule and
Chinese spoons suck.

What were they thinking?

-sw

On 2009-01-20, Sqwertz > wrote:

> What were they thinking?

A spoon that doesn't dribble soup down your chin. I use nothing but a Asian
spoon for soups.


nb