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I think you have to love yourself before you can love your food


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No you don't. Look at the millions of morbidly obese who got there via
finding comfort from self-loathing via food.


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> finding comfort from self-loathing via food.


I know. I thought about that after I posted it.

But fatties don't really indulge themselves with gourmet food. Just edible
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>> No you don't. Look at the millions of morbidly obese who got there via
>> finding comfort from self-loathing via food.

>
> I know. I thought about that after I posted it.
>
> But fatties don't really indulge themselves with gourmet food. Just edible
> garbage.


Tell that to Paul Prudomme.
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>> No you don't. Look at the millions of morbidly obese who got there via
>> finding comfort from self-loathing via food.

>
> I know. I thought about that after I posted it.
>
> But fatties don't really indulge themselves with gourmet food. Just edible
> garbage.
>


I don't think that is altogether true either, but maybe sometimes. I think
it is true that a love of oneself allows one to justify pampering oneself
with good food. An "I'm worth it" kind of thing. Outside of food abuse,
which much obesity if the result of. There was a winter when I was in my
early 20s that I ate to ease misery over some End of the World boyfriend
thing, and I ballooned up to 150 lbs. Never again.




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<snipped>

Stop right there. Might be dangerous to your health - IMHO, of course.
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>I think you have to love yourself before you can love your food


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> >>I think you have to love yourself before you can love your food

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> > No you don't. Look at the millions of morbidly obese who got there via
> > finding comfort from self-loathing via food.

>
> I know. I thought about that after I posted it.
>
> But fatties don't really indulge themselves with gourmet food. Just edible
> garbage.


Some of us morbidly obese are pretty picky about our food. I like
food;
I hate exercise.

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That was profound. Tell us more.


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I forgive you my child. It's been a good inauguration/day/meal.

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> > "cybercat" > wrote in message

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> ...

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> > > "Gill Smith" > wrote in message
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> > >>I think you have to love yourself before you can love your food

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> > > No you don't. Look at the millions of morbidly obese who got there via
> > > finding comfort from self-loathing via food.

>
> > I know. I thought about that after I posted it.

>
> > But fatties don't really indulge themselves with gourmet food. Just
> > edible
> > garbage.

>
> Some of us morbidly obese are pretty picky about our food. I like
> food;
> I hate exercise.


You can eat what you like, provided it's only ONCE a day.

It's marketed as The Warrior Diet.

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> On Jan 22, 11:43 am, "Gill Smith" >
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>> ...
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>>> "Gill Smith" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I think you have to love yourself before you can love your food
>>> No you don't. Look at the millions of morbidly obese who got there via
>>> finding comfort from self-loathing via food.

>> I know. I thought about that after I posted it.
>>
>> But fatties don't really indulge themselves with gourmet food. Just edible
>> garbage.

>
> Some of us morbidly obese are pretty picky about our food. I like
> food;
> I hate exercise.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


Oh girl, I love to exercise but I hate diets. Wouldn't the world be
grand if I liked both? lol I guess we can't have everything we want.
For now, I am still eating "la vita low-carb", and acting like I love it.

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>food; I hate exercise.


I do too, except for one certain unmentionable thing and walking around a
really interesting place. Like Paris. But you are not really morbidly obese,
are you?


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> >Some of us morbidly obese are pretty picky about our food. *I like
> >food; I hate exercise.

>
> I do too, except for one certain unmentionable thing and walking around a
> really interesting place. Like Paris. But you are not really morbidly obese,
> are you?


Yep. The doctor got out his circular slide rule when I was there a
couple
of weeks ago and definitely used the M word. A BMI of just a hair
over 40.

I don't mind doing stuff if there's a point, like walking around a
really interesting
place, or working around the house and yard (including building decks
and
garages).

But orbiting the neighborhood every day just to air out the muscles is
frankly
boring. I'd rather read. And I usually do. However, when the
weather warms
up again, I'm going to make another attempt to become a regular
exerciser.
I reckon if I do it even once, it'll be better than doing it zero
times.

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> > > "cybercat" > wrote in message

>
> > ...

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> > > > "Gill Smith" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >>I think you have to love yourself before you can love your food

>
> > > > No you don't. Look at the millions of morbidly obese who got there via
> > > > finding comfort from self-loathing via food.

>
> > > I know. I thought about that after I posted it.

>
> > > But fatties don't really indulge themselves with gourmet food. Just
> > > edible
> > > garbage.

>
> > Some of us morbidly obese are pretty picky about our food. *I like
> > food;
> > I hate exercise.

>
> You can eat what you like, provided it's only ONCE a day.


If I had only one meal a day, I'd probably end up killing and
eating the guy in the office next door. Now, that's a
Warrior Diet.

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> Gill Smith wrote:
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>>> "Gill Smith" > wrote in message
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>>>> I think you have to love yourself before you can love your food
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No you don't. Look at the millions of morbidly obese who got there via
>>> finding comfort from self-loathing via food.

>>
>> I know. I thought about that after I posted it.
>>
>> But fatties don't really indulge themselves with gourmet food. Just edible
>> garbage.

>
> Tell that to Paul Prudomme.


didn't he lose a bunch of weight not too long ago? he was scary-looking at
one time.

your pal,
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> >Some of us morbidly obese are pretty picky about our food. I like
> >food; I hate exercise.

>
> I do too, except for one certain unmentionable thing and walking around a
> really interesting place. Like Paris. But you are not really morbidly
> obese,
> are you?


>Yep. The doctor got out his circular slide rule when I was there a
>couple of weeks ago and definitely used the M word. A BMI of just a hair
>over 40.


Well, you are not alone. More Americans are struggling with weight now than
ever.

>I don't mind doing stuff if there's a point, like walking around a
>really interesting place, or working around the house and yard (including
>building decks
>and garages).


You can come to my house! My yards would make excellent cross-training
programs!

>But orbiting the neighborhood every day just to air out the muscles is
>frankly boring. I'd rather read. And I usually do


Me too. When I quit smoking at 40 and began piling on pounds, I asked my
doctor why my usual (30-minute-3-times-a-week) routine was not budging them
and he said, "You're over 40. Weight loss is a different ballgame now. You
need to work out hard, to the point of heavy perspiration, AN HOUR A DAY."
Like that was going to happen. What I did was cut way back on caloric foods
and starchy foods, and put a book holder on my bike and treadmill. I also
got a Nordic Track which had novelty interest, since I am so uncoordinated
it took a while before I could use it with no fear of flying across the
room.

>However, when the weather warms up again, I'm going to make another attempt
>to become a regular
>exerciser. I reckon if I do it even once, it'll be better than doing it
>zero
>times.


As long as we keep our hearts working well and use those muscles, that's the
important part. I have friends who have gone the Plastic Soccer Mom route,
who are now in their fifties and so thin they look brittle, with faces so
tight and lean the skin looks (and has been) stretched over their bones. I
don't think it is pretty at all. (Especially since most of them broiled in
the sun while I was inside reading, so they are leathery as hell.) But I
digress.


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>If I had only one meal a day, I'd probably end up killing and
>eating the guy in the office next door. Now, that's a
>Warrior Diet.


The Warrior Princess Diet.

I actually did this, or something like it, when I lost the 20 pounds I
needed to lose a few years ago. I had as much as I wanted of anything I
wanted once a day, then the rest of the day things like salads or watermelon
or cantaloupe. By the third day your stomach is so small you can't eat much,
even if you want to. It worked.


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>> You can eat what you like, provided it's only ONCE a day.

>
>>If I had only one meal a day, I'd probably end up killing and
>>eating the guy in the office next door. Now, that's a
>>Warrior Diet.

>
> The Warrior Princess Diet.
>
> I actually did this, or something like it, when I lost the 20 pounds I
> needed to lose a few years ago. I had as much as I wanted of anything I
> wanted once a day, then the rest of the day things like salads or
> watermelon or cantaloupe. By the third day your stomach is so small you
> can't eat much, even if you want to. It worked.
>

RFC doesn't help with food obsession does it?


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>>> But fatties don't really indulge themselves with gourmet food. Just edible
>>> garbage.

>> Tell that to Paul Prudomme.

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> didn't he lose a bunch of weight not too long ago? he was scary-looking at
> one time.
>
> your pal,
> blake


I think it was a few years ago? He was so enormous he couldn't even
stand up to cook.
Really fat people often still look a little scary after large weight
losses. Healthier, but still a little scary.


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>>>> But fatties don't really indulge themselves with gourmet food. Just
>>>> edible garbage.
>>> Tell that to Paul Prudomme.

>>
>> didn't he lose a bunch of weight not too long ago? he was scary-looking
>> at
>> one time.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake

>
> I think it was a few years ago? He was so enormous he couldn't even stand
> up to cook.
> Really fat people often still look a little scary after large weight
> losses. Healthier, but still a little scary.


Whereas you manage to be scary before anyone even sees your sorry ass.


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> > > "Gill Smith" > wrote in message
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> > >>I think you have to love yourself before you can love your food

> >
> > > No you don't. Look at the millions of morbidly obese who got there via
> > > finding comfort from self-loathing via food.

> >
> > I know. I thought about that after I posted it.
> >
> > But fatties don't really indulge themselves with gourmet food. Just edible
> > garbage.

>
> Some of us morbidly obese are pretty picky about our food. I like
> food;
> I hate exercise.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


<lol> I know what you mean.
Fortunately, I happen to actually enjoy weight lifting, but that does
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> >>> But fatties don't really indulge themselves with gourmet food. Just
> >>> edible
> >>> garbage.
> >> Tell that to Paul Prudomme.

> >
> > didn't he lose a bunch of weight not too long ago? he was scary-looking at
> > one time.
> >
> > your pal,
> > blake

>
> I think it was a few years ago? He was so enormous he couldn't even
> stand up to cook.
> Really fat people often still look a little scary after large weight
> losses. Healthier, but still a little scary.


That's what plastic surgeons are for.
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> blake murphy wrote:
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>>>> But fatties don't really indulge themselves with gourmet food. Just
>>>> edible garbage.
>>> Tell that to Paul Prudomme.

>>
>> didn't he lose a bunch of weight not too long ago? he was scary-looking
>> at one time.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake

>
> I think it was a few years ago? He was so enormous he couldn't even stand
> up to cook.


I saw him on some lot, years ago, and he was huge and using a little
electric go-buggy. Did he use that on his show(s)? I don't remember if
I've seen him using it when guesting on talks.


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What I did was cut way back on caloric foods
>and starchy foods, and put a book holder on my bike and treadmill.


That sounds like one of the keys to it. I just read Mark Bittman's
new book called Food Matters, in which he changed his diet. He
markedly upped his vegetable intake, cut his meat intake drastically,
and rationed the higher glycemic foods.

I recommend this book: it has inspired me to use meat in much smaller
quantities, and to up my vegetable intake. I have cut out most
starchy foods like white potatoes, bread, pasta, and am trying to eat
those only as occasional treats.

And yes, I am obese too.

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> What I did was cut way back on caloric foods
>>and starchy foods, and put a book holder on my bike and treadmill.

>
> That sounds like one of the keys to it. I just read Mark Bittman's
> new book called Food Matters, in which he changed his diet. He
> markedly upped his vegetable intake, cut his meat intake drastically,
> and rationed the higher glycemic foods.


Yes, and the key is to find filling, low calorie, low starch things you
LOVE. Watermelon is one of mine. Cucumbers and red and yellow peppers are
another two.

>
> I recommend this book: it has inspired me to use meat in much smaller
> quantities, and to up my vegetable intake. I have cut out most
> starchy foods like white potatoes, bread, pasta, and am trying to eat
> those only as occasional treats.


You know, I don't even feel good after I eat these things any more. Or
rather, I feel bad. I am using Krust-Eze (however you spell it) whole wheat
pancake mix, using whole wheat bread sparsely, and using Barilla Plus whole
wheat, added fiber pasta when I have pasta. I don't really set out to limit
meat intake, but it happens because I am full or have so many other things
to eat that I love.


>
> And yes, I am obese too.
>


It's what's inside that counts. I didn't picture you as overweight, though.


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>You know, I don't even feel good after I eat these things any more. Or
>rather, I feel bad. I am using Krust-Eze (however you spell it) whole wheat
>pancake mix, using whole wheat bread sparsely, and using Barilla Plus whole
>wheat, added fiber pasta when I have pasta. I don't really set out to limit
>meat intake, but it happens because I am full or have so many other things
>to eat that I love.


One of the things he stresses is to read labels carefully. He says
that oftentimes a product will be labeled as being whole wheat or
whole grain, when in reality it has only a tiny bit of those
ingredients.

He advises upping the beans and whole grains too... I am trying to
do that. And he says gorge on vegetables...so that the result will
be what are achieving, of being full.

Another thing he suggested and I am really trying to do this, is to
not necessarily give up anything, but those things that are not as
healthy, use them sparingly as treats. Maybe have only one meal that
has good bread and treat yourself with that, or eat mostly vegetables,
whole grains, and beans and fruit the other meals, and then have a
treat at dinner. Say a dessert, or bread, or a glass of wine. Or a
potato...or a small serving of pasta. But use those things only as
treats.

One of my problems is that I work at night, and oftentimes I barely
have time to eat at work, much less take the time to heat stuff up. I
am trying to use whole grain breads if I take a sandwich, and to take
a huge salad, no matter what. Or pack stuff that can be eaten cold,
or to take a thermos of something, say soup. But I get tired, and go
the easiest route sometimes, which isn't as healthy. If I miss
getting much of anything to eat at night, I come home and am
starving...so I stuff myself with stuff that isn't as healthy. I am
trying to eliminate stuff like that, so I will have to eat the
healthier food if I want to eat. The thing is, at those momemts, I
just want the stuff that isn't great for me...LOL.

How do you like the Barilla Plus? I think that is supposedly very
good in terms of nutrition, and taste. Haven't tried it yet. I think
if I eat pasta it would be something like that now.
>> And yes, I am obese too.
>>

>
>It's what's inside that counts. I didn't picture you as overweight, though.
>


Thanks very much. I used to be skinny, and then I hit middle age.
And I was making bad choices regarding food, and the pounds started
adding up, a few each year. Now, I am about 80 pounds overweight, on
a small, short frame. And I cannot exercise the way a lot of folks
can, as I have bilateral hip replacements now, and bad knees. And
asthma, which is probably not helped with my weight.

But, I am trying to work on it. I don't want to give up my pleasure
in food, but I do want to be healthier. I don't think they have to be
mutually exclusive. Certainly Mark Bittman doesn't think so either,
and he writes about food for a living, and has many great cookbooks in
print.

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> > > > > No you don't. Look at the millions of morbidly obese who got there
> > > > > via
> > > > > finding comfort from self-loathing via food.

>
> > > > I know. I thought about that after I posted it.

>
> > > > But fatties don't really indulge themselves with gourmet food. Just
> > > > edible
> > > > garbage.

>
> > > Some of us morbidly obese are pretty picky about our food. I like
> > > food;
> > > I hate exercise.

>
> > You can eat what you like, provided it's only ONCE a day.

>
> If I had only one meal a day, I'd probably end up killing and
> eating the guy in the office next door. Now, that's a
> Warrior Diet.


Habits are hard to break because they are self-reinforcing i.e. you get your
squirt of endorphins each repeat.

Breaking the cycle means until a new habit is established.

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>> What I did was cut way back on caloric foods
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>>
>> That sounds like one of the keys to it. I just read Mark Bittman's
>> new book called Food Matters, in which he changed his diet. He
>> markedly upped his vegetable intake, cut his meat intake drastically,
>> and rationed the higher glycemic foods.

>
> Yes, and the key is to find filling, low calorie, low starch things you
> LOVE. Watermelon is one of mine. Cucumbers and red and yellow peppers are
> another two.
>
>>
>> I recommend this book: it has inspired me to use meat in much smaller
>> quantities, and to up my vegetable intake. I have cut out most
>> starchy foods like white potatoes, bread, pasta, and am trying to eat
>> those only as occasional treats.

>
> You know, I don't even feel good after I eat these things any more. Or
> rather, I feel bad.


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"Christine Dabney" > wrote
> One of the things he stresses is to read labels carefully. He says
> that oftentimes a product will be labeled as being whole wheat or
> whole grain, when in reality it has only a tiny bit of those
> ingredients.


I go to the ingredient list. When whole wheat is the first ingredient, that
means there is more whole wheat than any other single ingredient, right?


>
> He advises upping the beans and whole grains too... I am trying to
> do that. And he says gorge on vegetables...so that the result will
> be what are achieving, of being full.


Lentil soup, refried beans, and thick garlicky black beans with lots of
cumin and a little cider vinegar are staples for me. Beans are one of the
foods I really love, almost as much as mushy gooshy comfort foods like fresh
baked bread. I put kidney beans in salads, and sometimes just snack on chick
peas. A small amount of refried beans with a dab of low fat sour cream and a
sprinkle of cheddar is sinfully good, to me. Last week I wanted to grab
something fast, and had half a small can of regular old baked beans (Aldi
49-cent "pork and beans") and a piece of buttered wheat bread for dinner.

As for vegetables, it is amazing to me how fast they went from something I
am "supposed" to eat to something I love and crave.

Another thing I do is allow myself to use a bit of something not so good for
me to make a bunch of something really good for me more enticing. A sprinkle
of shredded cheddar on steamed broc! In fact, that "thing" is usually
cheese, or light sour cream.

>
> Another thing he suggested and I am really trying to do this, is to
> not necessarily give up anything, but those things that are not as
> healthy, use them sparingly as treats.


I absolutely agree here. The thing that will send me into pig out mode is
telling myself I CAN'T have something. I just have a little.

(Off for a minute, will answer the rest of your post later ....)


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> Cindy Hamilton > wrote:


>> Some of us morbidly obese are pretty picky about our food. I like
>> food;
>> I hate exercise.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton



> <lol> I know what you mean.
> Fortunately, I happen to actually enjoy weight lifting, but that does
> not burn a lot of calories.


Weight lifting is a good thing. They say, muscle is the engine that
burns calories. The more muscle mass you have, the more calories you
burn, even at rest. That is the only reason I do weight training, that,
and I want to keep whatever muscles I have, such as it is.

Becca

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In article >,
Becca > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > Cindy Hamilton > wrote:

>
> >> Some of us morbidly obese are pretty picky about our food. I like
> >> food;
> >> I hate exercise.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton

>
>
> > <lol> I know what you mean.
> > Fortunately, I happen to actually enjoy weight lifting, but that does
> > not burn a lot of calories.

>
> Weight lifting is a good thing. They say, muscle is the engine that
> burns calories. The more muscle mass you have, the more calories you
> burn, even at rest. That is the only reason I do weight training, that,
> and I want to keep whatever muscles I have, such as it is.
>
> Becca
>
> Becca


That is true. Muscle is more metabolically active than fat! The more
muscle you build, the more you can increase your metabolic rate.

The amount of calories it takes to just maintain muscle mass for some
pro' competitive body builders is incredible, but they spend hours in
the gym every day too.

I personally like the increase in strength I'm experiencing. It comes in
handy for many things, including hauling in groceries. <g>
I'd had a rather long layoff from the gym.

Another thing weight lifting does for me personally...

Endorphins.

I like to life heavy and push myself. Makes me high from the endorphin
release. Endorphins also act as a pain killer! I often limp into the
gym after being on my feet all night, especially with some problems I'm
having with my right leg. I do my thing there and walk out with almost
no pain. I have about 2 hours to then get my housework and cooking
done. :-)

I'm a big believer in weight lifting.
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:38:52 -0500, "cybercat" >
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>"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote
>>Some of us morbidly obese are pretty picky about our food. I like
>>food; I hate exercise.

>
>I do too, except for one certain unmentionable thing and walking around a
>really interesting place. Like Paris. But you are not really morbidly obese,
>are you?
>


Oh, Paris! I want to return - maybe live there for a year.


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