Starbucks closings.

Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the 2008 600
store closings.

Oh the humanity!!!

Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???

Andy

In article >, Andy > wrote:
>Starbucks closings.
>
>Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the 2008 600
>store closings.
>
>Oh the humanity!!!
>
>Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???

Dunno how you blokes find those joints over there; but here in Oz
everyone I've met who has been in one reckons they probably wouldn't
have gone broke here if they had sold even half-decent coffee. No one
seemed to think the mass closure of the local stores was any loss to
society. [But please note: I've never been in a Starbucks and my
"everyone" is not a lot, so YMMV. :-) ]

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

Andy wrote:
> Starbucks closings.
>
> Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the
> 2008 600 store closings.
>
> Oh the humanity!!!
>
> Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???
>
> Andy

They are still opening purpose-built buildings for them here.
Janet

Phred said...

> In article >, Andy > wrote:
>>Starbucks closings.
>>
>>Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the
>>2008 600 store closings.
>>
>>Oh the humanity!!!
>>
>>Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???
>
> Dunno how you blokes find those joints over there; but here in Oz
> everyone I've met who has been in one reckons they probably wouldn't
> have gone broke here if they had sold even half-decent coffee. No one
> seemed to think the mass closure of the local stores was any loss to
> society. [But please note: I've never been in a Starbucks and my
> "everyone" is not a lot, so YMMV. :-) ]
>
> Cheers, Phred.


Phred,

I've been to Starbucks exactly twice. I wasn't impressed either time.

There's something so wrong about drinking espresso drinks out of styrofoam
cups. It just ain't proper!

Best,

Andy

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> Starbucks closings.
>
> Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the 2008
> 600
> store closings.
>
> Oh the humanity!!!
>
> Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???
>
> Andy

The Starbucks in the men's room of the Greyhound Bus station below the
freeway is staying in business. As are the other 14 other Starbuck's in a 2
mile radius.

Paul

Michael "Dog3" said...

> Andy > : in
> rec.food.cooking
>
>> Starbucks closings.
>>
>> Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the
>> 2008 600 store closings.
>>
>> Oh the humanity!!!
>>
>> Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???
>
> Well you can pop into St. Louis and try Kaldi's. It's privately owned. If
> you don't mind *** coffee houses we've got The Grind, Coffee Cartel and
> MoKabees(sp) as well. We're not going to suffer if a few Starbucks close.
> Except with unemployment of course.
>
> Michael


Michael,

I no longer drink caffeine anything if I can help it! Makes me spastic.

Now if you got good biscuits and sausage gravy over there I'll be sure and
stop by! I haven't seen them done right, here, ever! But then, that's
another topic for another day.

Best,

Andy

Andy wrote:
> Starbucks closings.
>
> Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the 2008 600
> store closings.
>
> Oh the humanity!!!
>
> Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???


LOL And therein lies part of Starbucks ' problem..... the loiterers who
sit around for hours and take up their limited seating. I don't often
buy coffee to go, so I want a place to sit down and drink it. Most of
the seats at Starbucks are occupied for hours on end by posers reading
books or playing on their laptops. And if you are getting coffee to go,
Starbucks is just too damned slow. People on coffee breaks or making
coffee runs for the office don't have time.

Then their is their prices. I wouldn't mind paying extra for a better
cup of coffee and a comfortable seat, but the coffee is not that good,
and it is expensive..... and there usually isn't a place to sit and
enjoy it.

They would probably do better is they imposed some time limits ..... a
time limit on loitering (non) customers and on the wait times for coffee.

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> Andy > : in
> rec.food.cooking
>
> > Starbucks closings.
> >
> > Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the
> > 2008 600 store closings.
> >
> > Oh the humanity!!!
> >
> > Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???
>
> Well you can pop into St. Louis and try Kaldi's. It's privately owned. If
> you don't mind *** coffee houses we've got The Grind, Coffee Cartel and
> MoKabees(sp) as well. We're not going to suffer if a few Starbucks close.
> Except with unemployment of course.


The idiots can always get jobs at McD's or Burger Circus or Chipotle, those
places are booming even in this economy and so they are hiring...

Glad to see Starsux having a run of bad luck, they drove a LOT of
independents outta bizness, several here in my Chicawgo nabe...their bad
korporate karma has come back to bite them, fie on them and hang 'em high I
say.


--
Best
Greg

Paul M. Cook said...

>
> "Andy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Starbucks closings.
>>
>> Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the
>> 2008 600
>> store closings.
>>
>> Oh the humanity!!!
>>
>> Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???
>>
>> Andy
>
> The Starbucks in the men's room of the Greyhound Bus station below the
> freeway is staying in business. As are the other 14 other Starbuck's in
> a 2 mile radius.
>
> Paul


Paul,

Heh heh heh.

Does the bathroom Starbucks have the old man in a suit by the sink handing
out napkins, cream and sugar?

There's never a bus around when ya need one but blindfold somebody and
they'll probably trip into a Starbucks!

We have a Starbucks cart in the ACME supermarket. Silliest thing I ever
saw!

Best,

Andy

On Jan 29, 7:25*am, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> > Andy > :in
> > rec.food.cooking
>
> > > Starbucks closings.
>
> > > Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the
> > > 2008 600 store closings.
>
> > > Oh the humanity!!!
>
> > > Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???
>
> > Well you can pop into St. Louis and try Kaldi's. It's privately owned. If
> > you don't mind *** coffee houses we've got The Grind, Coffee Cartel and
> > MoKabees(sp) as well. We're not going to suffer if a few Starbucks close.
> > Except with unemployment of course.
>
> The idiots can always get jobs at McD's or Burger Circus or Chipotle, those
> places are booming even in this economy and so they are hiring...
>
> Glad to see Starsux having a run of bad luck, they drove a LOT of
> independents outta bizness, several here in my Chicawgo nabe...their bad
> korporate karma has come back to bite them, fie on them and hang 'em high I
> say.
>
> --
> Best
> Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I agree- they did the same thing here in Seattle- it was like they
were taking over the world! I like Tully's better, but in this
economy, it's crazy to be spending 3 bucks on coffee anywhere!

merryb wrote:

> On Jan 29, 7:25 am, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
>
>>Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>>
>>>Andy > :in
>>>rec.food.cooking
>>
>>>>Starbucks closings.
>>
>>>>Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the
>>>>2008 600 store closings.
>>
>>>>Oh the humanity!!!
>>
>>>>Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???
>>
>>>Well you can pop into St. Louis and try Kaldi's. It's privately owned. If
>>>you don't mind *** coffee houses we've got The Grind, Coffee Cartel and
>>>MoKabees(sp) as well. We're not going to suffer if a few Starbucks close.
>>>Except with unemployment of course.
>>
>>The idiots can always get jobs at McD's or Burger Circus or Chipotle, those
>>places are booming even in this economy and so they are hiring...
>>
>>Glad to see Starsux having a run of bad luck, they drove a LOT of
>>independents outta bizness, several here in my Chicawgo nabe...their bad
>>korporate karma has come back to bite them, fie on them and hang 'em high I
>>say.
>>
>>--
>>Best
>>Greg- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>- Show quoted text -
>
>
> I agree- they did the same thing here in Seattle- it was like they
> were taking over the world! I like Tully's better, but in this
> economy, it's crazy to be spending 3 bucks on coffee anywhere!


<donning the flame-proof suit>

Actually, McDonald's cappucino is not bad at all, even if you do have to
tell them whether you want actual granulated sugar or "liquid sugar",
whatever the hell that might be - I haven't been brave enough to try it yet.

On 2009-01-29, Kathleen > wrote:

> Actually, McDonald's cappucino is not bad at all......

Both Starby and McD use "superautos", espresso machines that are fully
automatic and do everything from grind the beans to pull the shot with just
a push of a button, unlike regular expresso machines which require a high
degree of operator skill. Problem is, once a superauto goes out of fine
adjustment, the results is pretty bad and again we have to rely on someone
who is highly skilled in re-adjusting the machine.

McD has always used SAs and Starby changed to them a few years back. If you
run across either that is in good adjustment, patronize them until they
aren't, then complain about it or find another source of espresso, cuz most
workers haven't a clue if the machine is in or out. Only your tastebuds
will know.

nb

On Jan 29, 9:15*am, (Phred) wrote:
> In article >, Andy > wrote:
> >Starbucks closings.
>
> >Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the 2008 600
> >store closings.
>
> >Oh the humanity!!!
>
> >Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???
>
> Dunno how you blokes find those joints over there; but here in Oz
> everyone I've met who has been in one reckons they probably wouldn't
> have gone broke here if they had sold even half-decent coffee. *No one
> seemed to think the mass closure of the local stores was any loss to
> society. *[But please note: I've never been in a Starbucks and my
> "everyone" is not a lot, so YMMV. :-) ]
>
> Cheers, Phred.
>
I'm in agreement with you wrt their coffee. My stepson used to work
there, and tried all sorts of variations to try and find a way for me
to enjoy drinking their swill. We ended up with a cup of milk with a
drop of coffee in it.

I'm not crying for them. At least the DSS got out of there before all
the closings started.

maxine in ri

On Jan 29, 11:52*am, Kathleen > wrote:
> merryb wrote:
> > On Jan 29, 7:25 am, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
>
> >>Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>
> >>>Andy > :in
> >>>rec.food.cooking
>
> >>>>Starbucks closings.
>
> >>>>Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the
> >>>>2008 600 store closings.
>
> >>>>Oh the humanity!!!
>
> >>>>Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???
>
> >>>Well you can pop into St. Louis and try Kaldi's. It's privately owned. If
> >>>you don't mind *** coffee houses we've got The Grind, Coffee Cartel and
> >>>MoKabees(sp) as well. We're not going to suffer if a few Starbucks close.
> >>>Except with unemployment of course.
>
> >>The idiots can always get jobs at McD's or Burger Circus or Chipotle, those
> >>places are booming even in this economy and so they are hiring...
>
> >>Glad to see Starsux having a run of bad luck, they drove a LOT of
> >>independents outta bizness, several here in my Chicawgo nabe...their bad
> >>korporate karma has come back to bite them, fie on them and hang 'em high I
> >>say.
>
> >>--
> >>Best
> >>Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>- Show quoted text -
>
> > I agree- they did the same thing here in Seattle- it was like they
> > were taking over the world! I like Tully's better, but in this
> > economy, it's crazy to be spending 3 bucks on coffee anywhere!
>
> <donning the flame-proof suit>
>
> Actually, McDonald's cappucino is not bad at all, even if you do have to
> tell them whether you want actual granulated sugar or "liquid sugar",
> whatever the hell that might be - I haven't been brave enough to try it yet.

Dunkin donuts uses liquid sugar. It tastes like coffee syrup. Weak
coffee syrup. Especially when it's added to an iced tea.

maxine in ri

Dave Smith wrote:

> Andy wrote:
> > Starbucks closings.

> Then their is their prices. I wouldn't mind paying extra for a better
> cup of coffee and a comfortable seat, but the coffee is not that
> good, and it is expensive..... and there usually isn't a place to sit
> and enjoy it.

When you watch personal finance features, what's their favorite example
on how to tighten up your spending? That $5 cup of fancy coffee.

I don't like coffee, so it's not a factor for me.





Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Gregory Morrow wrote:

>
> Glad to see Starsux having a run of bad luck, they drove a LOT of
> independents outta bizness, several here in my Chicawgo nabe...their bad
> korporate karma has come back to bite them, fie on them and hang 'em high I
> say.
>
>


Don't you think that as soon as the economy rebounds and people (given
the inevitable inflation that's coming) are again willing to spend $10 a
cup for "prestige" coffee, Star$$$ will reopen a lot of those units?

They're just pulling back a bit, closing "underperformers". They'll be
back, half a block aay.

gloria p

>
> There's never a bus around when ya need one but blindfold somebody and
> they'll probably trip into a Starbucks!
>
> We have a Starbucks cart in the ACME supermarket. Silliest thing I ever
> saw!
>
> Best,
>
> Andy


Every one of our major supermarkets (Albertson's, KingSoopers/Kroger,
and Safeway ALL have a Starbucks in their lobby, some larger than
others. They also have a bank.

In the Denver area nearly every empty corner lot has a bank building
under construction while lots of banks are closing. What on earth???

gloria p

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:15:40 +0000, Phred wrote:

> In article >, Andy > wrote:
>>Starbucks closings.
>>
>>Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the
>>2008 600 store closings.
>>
>>Oh the humanity!!!
>>
>>Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???
>
> Dunno how you blokes find those joints over there; but here in Oz
> everyone I've met who has been in one reckons they probably wouldn't
> have gone broke here if they had sold even half-decent coffee. No one
> seemed to think the mass closure of the local stores was any loss to
> society. [But please note: I've never been in a Starbucks and my
> "everyone" is not a lot, so YMMV. :-) ]

They're no big loss Phred. As you say, trying to get a straight-forward
good quality espresso or latte' at Starbucks seems not to be possible.
I've been to a Starbucks maybe 3 times, and always left indifferent to
their coffee.

OTOH, they *are* akin to a McDonalds, so in that sense the coffee is
relatively good. But I'll wager a *lot* of people are under the false
impression that Starbucks serves up true good quality coffee, which is
unfortunate.

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:52:21 -0600, Kathleen wrote:

> merryb wrote:
>
>> On Jan 29, 7:25 am, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
>>
>>>Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>>>
>>>>Andy > :in
>>>>rec.food.cooking
>>>
>>>>>Starbucks closings.
>>>
>>>>>Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the
>>>>>2008 600 store closings.
>>>
>>>>>Oh the humanity!!!
>>>
>>>>>Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???
>>>
>>>>Well you can pop into St. Louis and try Kaldi's. It's privately owned.
>>>>If you don't mind *** coffee houses we've got The Grind, Coffee Cartel
>>>>and MoKabees(sp) as well. We're not going to suffer if a few Starbucks
>>>>close. Except with unemployment of course.
>>>
>>>The idiots can always get jobs at McD's or Burger Circus or Chipotle,
>>>those places are booming even in this economy and so they are hiring...
>>>
>>>Glad to see Starsux having a run of bad luck, they drove a LOT of
>>>independents outta bizness, several here in my Chicawgo nabe...their
>>>bad korporate karma has come back to bite them, fie on them and hang
>>>'em high I say.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I agree- they did the same thing here in Seattle- it was like they were
>> taking over the world! I like Tully's better, but in this economy, it's
>> crazy to be spending 3 bucks on coffee anywhere!
>
>
> <donning the flame-proof suit>
>
> Actually, McDonald's cappucino is not bad at all,

In other words - you actually don't like real coffee - you in fact like
McDonalds brown hot liquid sludge. No offence... but they don't serve
what you could call real coffee.

Gregory Morrow wrote:
> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>
>> Andy > : in
>> rec.food.cooking
>>
>>> Starbucks closings.
>>>
>>> Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the
>>> 2008 600 store closings.
>>>
>>> Oh the humanity!!!
>>>
>>> Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???
>> Well you can pop into St. Louis and try Kaldi's. It's privately owned. If
>> you don't mind *** coffee houses we've got The Grind, Coffee Cartel and
>> MoKabees(sp) as well. We're not going to suffer if a few Starbucks close.
>> Except with unemployment of course.
>
>
> The idiots can always get jobs at McD's or Burger Circus or Chipotle, those
> places are booming even in this economy and so they are hiring...
>
> Glad to see Starsux having a run of bad luck, they drove a LOT of
> independents outta bizness, several here in my Chicawgo nabe...their bad
> korporate karma has come back to bite them, fie on them and hang 'em high I
> say.
>
>
It is something of a paradox though because even though they are a big
box place that killed independents they actually paid their employees a
decent wage and had actual medical benefits etc. I would rather be
cheering if a rotten outfit like walmart closed up shop.

maxine in ri wrote:

> On Jan 29, 11:52 am, Kathleen > wrote:
>
>>merryb wrote:
>>
>>>On Jan 29, 7:25 am, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
>>
>>>>Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>>
>>>>>Andy > :in
>>>>>rec.food.cooking
>>
>>>>>>Starbucks closings.
>>
>>>>>>Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the
>>>>>>2008 600 store closings.
>>
>>>>>>Oh the humanity!!!
>>
>>>>>>Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???
>>
>>>>>Well you can pop into St. Louis and try Kaldi's. It's privately owned. If
>>>>>you don't mind *** coffee houses we've got The Grind, Coffee Cartel and
>>>>>MoKabees(sp) as well. We're not going to suffer if a few Starbucks close.
>>>>>Except with unemployment of course.
>>
>>>>The idiots can always get jobs at McD's or Burger Circus or Chipotle, those
>>>>places are booming even in this economy and so they are hiring...
>>
>>>>Glad to see Starsux having a run of bad luck, they drove a LOT of
>>>>independents outta bizness, several here in my Chicawgo nabe...their bad
>>>>korporate karma has come back to bite them, fie on them and hang 'em high I
>>>>say.
>>
>>>>--
>>>>Best
>>>>Greg- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>- Show quoted text -
>>
>>>I agree- they did the same thing here in Seattle- it was like they
>>>were taking over the world! I like Tully's better, but in this
>>>economy, it's crazy to be spending 3 bucks on coffee anywhere!
>>
>><donning the flame-proof suit>
>>
>>Actually, McDonald's cappucino is not bad at all, even if you do have to
>>tell them whether you want actual granulated sugar or "liquid sugar",
>>whatever the hell that might be - I haven't been brave enough to try it yet.
>
>
> Dunkin donuts uses liquid sugar. It tastes like coffee syrup. Weak
> coffee syrup. Especially when it's added to an iced tea.
>
> maxine in ri

Ick. Makes me glad I always tell them granulated sugar. The dry stuff
in the packets. Even though it's probably made from beets instead of
sugar cane.

I only rarely buy coffee and/or breakfast out. I do treat myself when I
take an assignment at our district's alternative high school. I'm one
of only a handful of subs willing to fill those positions. It's never
an easy day. These kids are dealing with all sorts of terrible issues,
stuff that would break the average adult. And they are actually the
lucky ones. Somebody saw them going down for the third time and threw
them a rope, pulled strings, went to bat for them and got them a slot at
Union. The less fortunate others drifted away, dropped out, fell
through the cracks in the system.

But because I've worked district wide, K-12 for many years, I've known
the majority of those students for anything from a year to most of their
lives. I've been their room mother, their sub, their reading tutor, the
lady down the street who isn't afraid to knock on their front door and
tell their parents they've been smashing bottles in the street. I've
given them rides home from detention and they've sat at my table, had
snacks and played with my dogs while waiting for their parents to come
home from work when they got locked out.

They don't mess with me and I don't make their lives more difficult than
necessary. And my personal contract with them is that even if the only
thing their regular teacher left for them is some sort of assinine,
retarded busy work, I will teach them something useful and/or
interesting that they didn't know. And there will be stories.

Gloria P wrote:

> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
> >
> > Glad to see Starsux having a run of bad luck, they drove a LOT of
> > independents outta bizness, several here in my Chicawgo nabe...their bad
> > korporate karma has come back to bite them, fie on them and hang 'em
high I
> > say.
> >
> >
>
>
> Don't you think that as soon as the economy rebounds and people (given
> the inevitable inflation that's coming) are again willing to spend $10 a
> cup for "prestige" coffee, Star$$$ will reopen a lot of those units?
>
> They're just pulling back a bit, closing "underperformers". They'll be
> back, half a block aay.


Maybe, but after this current eco - jolt is over peeps might think twice
about "frivolous" spending, this sorta spending is partly what got us into
this mess in the first place...we shall see. Supposedly many are buying
cheaper but somewhat equivalent brews at McD's, Dunkin' Donuts, 7-11,
Speedway, etc. The local radio here in Chicago is full of coffee ads for
these places...

Reading around some commentators are saying this is the big "Third Change"
of capitalism in the last 80 or so years. First was the adoption of
Keynesian economics during and after the Depression, the second was the
"free market" doctrines of Reagan and Thatcher, and then there is this and
how it turns no one knows. Should be "interesting", to say the least...

One thing at least about the US is that folks pretty quickly forget hard
times when times turn flush, I guess it's part of our inherent optimism or
resilience or whatever...we've bounced back from much worse than this. When
others bounce back from hard times, e.g. Germany, Japan, Korea, they start
saving money to tide them through a future potential hard time, we spend,
spend, spend. Hopefully we'll come out of this with more sense about credit
and socking some dough away in the bank...

Enuf of my lecturing, lol...


--
Best
Greg

Andy wrote:
> Starbucks closings.
>
> Starbucks announces 300 more store closures. That in addition to the 2008 600
> store closings.
>
> Oh the humanity!!!
>
> Where am I gonna wi-fi and be unsocial now???

Lots of McDonalds, Burger Kings, etc. have free WiFi. Here's a web site
that might help. http://www.wi-fihotspotlist.com/ These are free spots.
Starbucks charges, don't they?

As for being "unsocial" I can't believe that of you ;-)

I, for one, will not miss Starbucks. Their coffee is way too bitter so
it has to be disguised with all kinds of flavorings and concoctions.

Kathleen wrote:

> Actually, McDonald's cappucino is not bad at all, even if you do have to
> tell them whether you want actual granulated sugar or "liquid sugar",
> whatever the hell that might be - I haven't been brave enough to try it
> yet.
>

McDonald's regular, everyday coffee isn't too bad.

Janet Wilder > wrote in
:

> Kathleen wrote:
>
>> Actually, McDonald's cappucino is not bad at all, even if you do have
>> to tell them whether you want actual granulated sugar or "liquid
>> sugar", whatever the hell that might be - I haven't been brave enough
>> to try it yet.
>>
>
> McDonald's regular, everyday coffee isn't too bad.
>

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/m...6844,23762960-
5015825,00.html

http://tinyurl.com/5ggxd6

"McDONALD'S is making a bold bid for a new breed of green consumers by
replacing millions of cups of coffee with an environmentally responsible
brew. From May 28, every coffee sold in its McCafe outlets will come
from beans grown under environmentally friendly and socially responsible
conditions.

The decision will mean sourcing 468 tonnes of coffee this year from
farms in Brazil, Colombia and Costa Rica that have been annually
inspected by the US-based not-for-profit company Rainforest Alliance.

Marketing and consumer experts in Queensland welcomed the move, but said
the US-based firm could do much more to improve the sustainability of
its business across the board."



And it tastes pretty damn good, too.

Not as good as what I make at home, but still pretty good.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


Soldati, io esco da Roma. Chi vuole continuare la guerra contro lo
straniero venga con me. Non posso offrigli ne¤ onori ne¤ stipendi; gli
offro fame, sete, marce forzate, battaglie e morte. Chi ama la Patria mi
segua.

—Garibaldi, Giuseppe

Lucas is manic again!
"Peter-Lucas" > wrote in message
.25...
> Janet Wilder > wrote in
> :
>
>> Kathleen wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, McDonald's cappucino is not bad at all, even if you do have
>>> to tell them whether you want actual granulated sugar or "liquid
>>> sugar", whatever the hell that might be - I haven't been brave enough
>>> to try it yet.
>>>
>>
>> McDonald's regular, everyday coffee isn't too bad.
>>
>
> http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/m...6844,23762960-
> 5015825,00.html
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5ggxd6
>
> "McDONALD'S is making a bold bid for a new breed of green consumers by
> replacing millions of cups of coffee with an environmentally responsible
> brew. From May 28, every coffee sold in its McCafe outlets will come
> from beans grown under environmentally friendly and socially responsible
> conditions.
>
> The decision will mean sourcing 468 tonnes of coffee this year from
> farms in Brazil, Colombia and Costa Rica that have been annually
> inspected by the US-based not-for-profit company Rainforest Alliance.
>
> Marketing and consumer experts in Queensland welcomed the move, but said
> the US-based firm could do much more to improve the sustainability of
> its business across the board."
>
>
>
> And it tastes pretty damn good, too.
>
> Not as good as what I make at home, but still pretty good.
>
>
>
> --
> Peter Lucas
> Brisbane
> Australia
>
>
> Soldati, io esco da Roma. Chi vuole continuare la guerra contro lo
> straniero venga con me. Non posso offrigli ne¤ onori ne¤ stipendi; gli
> offro fame, sete, marce forzate, battaglie e morte. Chi ama la Patria mi
> segua.
>
> —Garibaldi, Giuseppe

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> They would probably do better is they imposed some time limits ..... a
> time limit on loitering (non) customers and on the wait times for coffee.

That was a gag on an old Candid Camera show. They rigged up
cab-style timers at the seating positions in a diner, and
informed customers they were being charged by how long they
sat there.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
> In other words - you actually don't like real coffee - you in fact like
> McDonalds brown hot liquid sludge. No offence... but they don't serve
> what you could call real coffee.

Here in CT we get Newman's brand of coffee and it is very good. It may vary
by region though. Usually twice a month we go to McD's for breakfast after
my wife has her blood test. That is the only two days a month I drink
coffee.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Here in CT we get Newman's brand of coffee and it is very good. It may vary
> by region though. Usually twice a month we go to McD's for breakfast after
> my wife has her blood test. That is the only two days a month I drink
> coffee.
>
>
Here too. I get it when we go down toward Cape Cod for the
medieval "faire". Got to make a pit stop, you know....

--
Jean B.

In article > ,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> Then their is their prices. I wouldn't mind paying extra for a better
> cup of coffee and a comfortable seat, but the coffee is not that good,
> and it is expensive..... and there usually isn't a place to sit and
> enjoy it.

That's my problem. It's distinctly average coffee at distinctly
above-average prices.

Miche

--
Electricians do it in three phases

Miche said...

> In article > ,
> Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> Then their is their prices. I wouldn't mind paying extra for a better
>> cup of coffee and a comfortable seat, but the coffee is not that good,
>> and it is expensive..... and there usually isn't a place to sit and
>> enjoy it.
>
> That's my problem. It's distinctly average coffee at distinctly
> above-average prices.
>
> Miche


Miche,

McD can afford to buy the best coffee around, hogging the best world's
plantation roasts and just about give it away since it brings in hundreds
of thousands of people a day with a taste for good coffee but no taste for
good food.

7/11 and Mom & Pop shops get the floor scrapings.

Best,

Andy

(Phred) wrote in
:

> Dunno how you blokes find those joints over there; but here in Oz
> everyone I've met who has been in one reckons they probably wouldn't
> have gone broke here if they had sold even half-decent coffee. No one
> seemed to think the mass closure of the local stores was any loss to
> society. [But please note: I've never been in a Starbucks and my
> "everyone" is not a lot, so YMMV. :-) ]
>
> Cheers, Phred.
>

I don't drink coffee so can't comment on that. I used to pop into Starbucks
in Penrith occasionally for a hot chocolate, or a "blended cream" which was
an icy milk drink.

It was mainly in the evening, if I had to wait 30 or 40 minutes for the bus
after getting off the train - it was open until late, and the only other
things open were a couple of restaurants, and it was warm in there in
winter. The hot chocolate wasn't the best I've ever had but it was pleasant
enough. I would say I never saw it empty, there were always people in
there.

--
Rhonda Anderson
Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

"Rhonda Anderson" > wrote in message
.5...
> (Phred) wrote in
> :
>
>> Dunno how you blokes find those joints over there; but here in Oz
>> everyone I've met who has been in one reckons they probably wouldn't
>> have gone broke here if they had sold even half-decent coffee. No one
>> seemed to think the mass closure of the local stores was any loss to
>> society. [But please note: I've never been in a Starbucks and my
>> "everyone" is not a lot, so YMMV. :-) ]
>>
>> Cheers, Phred.
>>
>
> I don't drink coffee so can't comment on that. I used to pop into
> Starbucks
> in Penrith occasionally for a hot chocolate, or a "blended cream" which
> was
> an icy milk drink.
>
> It was mainly in the evening, if I had to wait 30 or 40 minutes for the
> bus
> after getting off the train - it was open until late, and the only other
> things open were a couple of restaurants, and it was warm in there in
> winter. The hot chocolate wasn't the best I've ever had but it was
> pleasant
> enough. I would say I never saw it empty, there were always people in
> there.

It's $4 a cup where I live and we simply wont pay it. It's not that good a
coffee. For $4 I can buy a lb of ground coffee and drink myself in to a
caffeine frenzy.

>
> --
> Rhonda Anderson
> Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

I say the more Starbucks that close, the better!
Their coffee is dreadful, and way too expensive.
Drinking their coffee has become more of a status-symbol than anything
else, imho. Many people just want to be seen carrying a cup of
Starbucks coffee.
With the tough economic times we are in, many people will no doubt
have to cut out their daily $5.00 a cup of Starbucks coffee, or their
$9.00 Moccha-Cappa-Frappa-Frothy-Whatever drink.
I certainly don't mind paying a premium price for a premium product,
but Starbucks just isn't good enough to justify their prices.
Also, people now are taking a good look at what they are spending and
cutting out many expensive non-essential items.
I usually have my morning coffee at home. But if I ever have to get
coffee out, or "to go", I much prefer Duncan Donuts, McDonald's, or
7-11's over Starbucks. Better coffee and better price, imho!
Just my 2 cents...

Darren

On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:32:18 +1300, Miche wrote:

> In article > ,
> Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> Then their is their prices. I wouldn't mind paying extra for a better
>> cup of coffee and a comfortable seat, but the coffee is not that good,
>> and it is expensive..... and there usually isn't a place to sit and
>> enjoy it.
>
> That's my problem. It's distinctly average coffee at distinctly
> above-average prices.
>
> Miche

they just put one in my grocery store, which ****es me off because there
are now a fair number of items the store no longer stocks, presumably
because they gave up the space to starbucks. and of course there's another
one a block away and a caribou coffee nearly next door. weasels.

your pal,
blake

> (Phred) wrote in
> :
>
>> Dunno how you blokes find those joints over there; but here in Oz
>> everyone I've met who has been in one reckons they probably wouldn't
>> have gone broke here if they had sold even half-decent coffee. No one
>> seemed to think the mass closure of the local stores was any loss to
>> society. [But please note: I've never been in a Starbucks and my
>> "everyone" is not a lot, so YMMV. :-) ]
>>
>> Cheers, Phred.
>>



I have had ~2 cups of Starbucks's coffee in my life and thought it was
the worst, burnt bitter coffee I had ever tasted.

Until a few years ago, our airport didn't have a Starbucks. Travelers
often asked where to find one and when offered other coffee shops, an
incredible number looked down their noses and replied "If it's not
STARBUCKS, it's not coffee...." Stoopid yuppies with more money than taste.

gloria p

Gloria P said...

>
>> (Phred) wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> Dunno how you blokes find those joints over there; but here in Oz
>>> everyone I've met who has been in one reckons they probably wouldn't
>>> have gone broke here if they had sold even half-decent coffee. No one
>>> seemed to think the mass closure of the local stores was any loss to
>>> society. [But please note: I've never been in a Starbucks and my
>>> "everyone" is not a lot, so YMMV. :-) ]
>>>
>>> Cheers, Phred.
>>>
>
>
>
> I have had ~2 cups of Starbucks's coffee in my life and thought it was
> the worst, burnt bitter coffee I had ever tasted.
>
> Until a few years ago, our airport didn't have a Starbucks. Travelers
> often asked where to find one and when offered other coffee shops, an
> incredible number looked down their noses and replied "If it's not
> STARBUCKS, it's not coffee...." Stoopid yuppies with more money than
> taste.
>
> gloria p


Why am I NOT surprised? Transient BUMS!!!

Andy

On 2009-01-31, Gloria P > wrote:

> incredible number looked down their noses and replied "If it's not
> STARBUCKS, it's not coffee...." Stoopid yuppies with more money than taste.

Very few Starby customers order plain coffee. It's the milk drinks with a
splash of coffee/expresso they go for. Milk and sugar are Starby's money
makers. Coffee is just a flavor base.

nb

On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:40:22 GMT, "l, not -l" > wrote:

>
>On 31-Jan-2009, Darren > wrote:
>
>> I say the more Starbucks that close, the better!
>> Their coffee is dreadful, and way too expensive.
>> Drinking their coffee has become more of a status-symbol than anything
>> else, imho. Many people just want to be seen carrying a cup of
>> Starbucks coffee.
>
>What a great idea you've given me; sell fake Starbuck's cups for people to
>put their Folger's in. Sort of like the cheap, Chinese M*ntBl'c pen
>knock-offs; something to lead people to believe you have more money, or
>better credit, than you do.

Frankly I can't understand why people say Starbucks coffee is so
terrible. It's pretty damned good, so IMO those people are used to
drinking dirty dishwater masquerading as coffee.

Starbucks expanded way too quickly, anybody could see the writing on
the wall. They would have had to cut back even if there wasn't a
recession.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Sat 31 Jan 2009 09:50:27p, sf told us...

> Frankly I can't understand why people say Starbucks coffee is so
> terrible. It's pretty damned good, so IMO those people are used to
> drinking dirty dishwater masquerading as coffee.
>
> Starbucks expanded way too quickly, anybody could see the writing on
> the wall. They would have had to cut back even if there wasn't a
> recession.

I totally agree, Barbara. I only drink iced coffees, but I have an Iced
Venti Americano on my way to work every morning. Sometimes I have the same
thing on the way home, but with a couple of pumps of mocha.

David insists that Starbucks puts something in their drinks to make them
addictive. :-)

The only Starbucks anywhere near the Phoenix area that is closing is one
located in a very obscure little town. Don't know why they put one there
in the first place.

--
Wayne Boatwright
e-mail to wayneboatwright at gmail dot com
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