Is anyone able to suggest recipes suitable for a 12-year-old to cook/
prepare?

At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and I'd
like to expand his repertoire.

Dishes suited to a 12yo's palate would be best -- as he'd be reluctant to
cook things he doesn't like to eat

Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives (unless it'd be
possible for an adult to pre-prepare the parts of the recipe requiring
those things).

Thanks!

On 2009-02-01, Horry > wrote:

> At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and I'd
> like to expand his repertoire.

> Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives....

Why don't you just wrap him in animal balloons and pack him in a cotton
lined coffin?

By time I was twelve, I was building campfires with a flint and steel, had
earned my marksmanship and cooking merit badges, carried my own sheath
knife, and could cook a dinner for three. Give the kid a freakin' break,
fergawdsakes!

nb

On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:47:16 +0000, notbob wrote:

> On 2009-02-01, Horry > wrote:
>
>> At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and
>> I'd like to expand his repertoire.
>
>> Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives....
>
> Why don't you just wrap him in animal balloons and pack him in a cotton
> lined coffin?
>
> By time I was twelve, I was building campfires with a flint and steel,
> had earned my marksmanship and cooking merit badges, carried my own
> sheath knife, and could cook a dinner for three. Give the kid a
> freakin' break, fergawdsakes!

Who were the three?

How about making a pizza. Take him to the store, buy a bag of pre-made
dough and whatever sauce, meat, and veggies he likes. Teach him how to
stretch and form the pizza crust and build his own pizza. If he likes
that, teach him how to make the dough himself next time, then teach him
how to make the sauce from scratch, etc. Show him how the dough can
also make rolls, or a smal bread. Show him how the same sauce can be
used for pasta another day.

How about puddings, first from a mix, next time maybe bread or rice
pudding.

Building a salad is fun to do, maybe making his own dressing. I made a
really good one last week, real easy recipe:

Maple-Mustard Vinaigrette

1/2 cup oil
1/4 cup maple syrup
1/4 cup apple cider vinegar
2 Tablespoons spicy brown mustard
2 Tablespoons soy sauce
Salt & pepper

Mix and refrigerate

Then show him how his home made dressings can be used to marinate meat
also. I used the above recipe as a chicken marinade, with a little
added Balsamic vinegar added, it was great cooked on the George Forman
grill.

Teach him about mac and cheese, or pancakes

Denise

On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:23:08 -0500, Denise in NH wrote:

> How about making a pizza. Take him to the store, buy a bag of pre-made
> dough and whatever sauce, meat, and veggies he likes. Teach him how to
> stretch and form the pizza crust and build his own pizza. If he likes
> that, teach him how to make the dough himself next time, then teach him
> how to make the sauce from scratch, etc. Show him how the dough can
> also make rolls, or a smal bread. Show him how the same sauce can be
> used for pasta another day.

I might combine this with Dan's suggestion of making lots of little
pizzas.


> How about puddings, first from a mix, next time maybe bread or rice
> pudding.

He likes bread & butter pudding.


> Building a salad is fun to do, maybe making his own dressing. I made a
> really good one last week, real easy recipe:
>
> Maple-Mustard Vinaigrette
>
> 1/2 cup oil
> 1/4 cup maple syrup
> 1/4 cup apple cider vinegar
> 2 Tablespoons spicy brown mustard
> 2 Tablespoons soy sauce
> Salt & pepper
>
> Mix and refrigerate
>
> Then show him how his home made dressings can be used to marinate meat
> also. I used the above recipe as a chicken marinade, with a little
> added Balsamic vinegar added, it was great cooked on the George Forman
> grill.
>
> Teach him about mac and cheese, or pancakes

Ta. All good suggestions that I/we will try.

On Feb 1, 2:58*pm, Horry > wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:47:16 +0000, notbob wrote:
> > On 2009-02-01, Horry > wrote:
>
> >> At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and
> >> I'd like to expand his repertoire.
>
> >> Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives....
>
> > Why don't you just wrap him in animal balloons and pack him in a cotton
> > lined coffin?
>
> > By time I was twelve, I was building campfires with a flint and steel,
> > had earned my marksmanship andcookingmerit badges, carried my own
> > sheath knife, and could cook a dinner for three. *Give the kid a
> > freakin' break, fergawdsakes!
>
> Who were the three?

On Feb 1, 2:58*pm, Horry > wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:47:16 +0000, notbob wrote:
> > On 2009-02-01, Horry > wrote:
>
> >> At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and
> >> I'd like to expand his repertoire.
>
> >> Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives....
>
> > Why don't you just wrap him in animal balloons and pack him in a cotton
> > lined coffin?
>
> > By time I was twelve, I was building campfires with a flint and steel,
> > had earned my marksmanship andcookingmerit badges, carried my own
> > sheath knife, and could cook a dinner for three. *Give the kid a
> > freakin' break, fergawdsakes!
>
> Who were the three?

Cooking is a form of art i know this as i am a trained chef and
barista, what ever is in you childs mind to create let him do so. Ask
form his opinon in to what he wants to cook, anything is possible, you
just maybe superised!!!

On Feb 1, 2:58*pm, Horry > wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:47:16 +0000, notbob wrote:
> > On 2009-02-01, Horry > wrote:
>
> >> At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and
> >> I'd like to expand his repertoire.
>
> >> Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives....
>
> > Why don't you just wrap him in animal balloons and pack him in a cotton
> > lined coffin?
>
> > By time I was twelve, I was building campfires with a flint and steel,
> > had earned my marksmanship andcookingmerit badges, carried my own
> > sheath knife, and could cook a dinner for three. *Give the kid a
> > freakin' break, fergawdsakes!
>
> Who were the three?

p

On Feb 1, 2:47*pm, notbob > wrote:
> On 2009-02-01, Horry > wrote:
>
> > At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and I'd
> > like to expand his repertoire.
> > Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives....
>
> Why don't you just wrap him in animal balloons and pack him in a cotton
> lined coffin? *
>
> By time I was twelve, I was building campfires with a flint and steel, had
> earned my marksmanship andcookingmerit badges, carried my own sheath
> knife, and could cook a dinner for three. *Give the kid a freakin' break,
> fergawdsakes!
>
> nb

hey this has nothin to do with cooking my tutor wanted me to send a
respos to a furm an thats what i did

On Feb 1, 2:47*pm, notbob > wrote:
> On 2009-02-01, Horry > wrote:
>
> > At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and I'd
> > like to expand his repertoire.
> > Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives....
>
> Why don't you just wrap him in animal balloons and pack him in a cotton
> lined coffin? *
>
> By time I was twelve, I was building campfires with a flint and steel, had
> earned my marksmanship andcookingmerit badges, carried my own sheath
> knife, and could cook a dinner for three. *Give the kid a freakin' break,
> fergawdsakes!
>
> nb

too true bro
i could cook a roast chicken on my own when i was twelve

On Feb 1, 2:47*pm, notbob > wrote:
> On 2009-02-01, Horry > wrote:
>
> > At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and I'd
> > like to expand his repertoire.
> > Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives....
>
> Why don't you just wrap him in animal balloons and pack him in a cotton
> lined coffin? *
>
> By time I was twelve, I was building campfires with a flint and steel, had
> earned my marksmanship andcookingmerit badges, carried my own sheath
> knife, and could cook a dinner for three. *Give the kid a freakin' break,
> fergawdsakes!
>
> nb

true.
i was cooking meals at the age of 12, just trust them with a knife and
watch them if you have to, they have to learn some time.

On Feb 1, 2:47*pm, notbob > wrote:
> On 2009-02-01, Horry > wrote:
>
> > At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and I'd
> > like to expand his repertoire.
> > Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives....
>
> Why don't you just wrap him in animal balloons and pack him in a cotton
> lined coffin? *
>
> By time I was twelve, I was building campfires with a flint and steel, had
> earned my marksmanship andcookingmerit badges, carried my own sheath
> knife, and could cook a dinner for three. *Give the kid a freakin' break,
> fergawdsakes!
>
> nb

Okay some recipes for 12yrsold. You know there is nothing bad about
the old fashioned canned baked beans on toast with fried egg on top.
Or spagetti and cheese toastie. Its quick and easy and also cheap. But
more importantly, heathly for a growing child. And yummy. Win-win with
that one.

im just ginna typ heaps of random stuff in this fourm cos i have to
print it out for my tutor

In article
>,
wrote:

> im just ginna typ heaps of random stuff in this fourm cos i have to
> print it out for my tutor

Perhaps you could explain to your tutor that there are an estimated
50,000 people reading this group, and perhaps we can figure how to type
random stuff ourselves without the help of you and the other students?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:09:27 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:

> In article
> >,
> wrote:
>
>> im just ginna typ heaps of random stuff in this fourm cos i have to
>> print it out for my tutor
>
> Perhaps you could explain to your tutor that there are an estimated
> 50,000 people reading this group, and perhaps we can figure how to type
> random stuff ourselves without the help of you and the other students?

i'm sure the tutor will be impressed with this putz's spelling and grammar.
although if that's his idea of an 'assignment,' he must be a yo-yo as well.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:28:39 -0800 (PST), wrote:

> im just ginna typ heaps of random stuff in this fourm cos i have to
> print it out for my tutor

make sure to print this one out so i can tell your tutor he's an idiot.

blake

Okay that's sounds fantastic, you could try and suggest to make an
cheesecake that doesn't involve any naked flames, hot liquids or any
sharp objects. Plus this cooking process is a overnight thing to way
for it to set and ready to eat the next day... and that's where you
enjoy the fun bit of it, eating it...yummy..

Enjoy cooking with your son
On Feb 1, 2:47*pm, notbob > wrote:
> On 2009-02-01, Horry > wrote:
>
> > At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and I'd
> > like to expand his repertoire.
> > Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives....
>
> Why don't you just wrap him in animal balloons and pack him in a cotton
> lined coffin? *
>
> By time I was twelve, I was building campfires with a flint and steel, had
> earned my marksmanship andcookingmerit badges, carried my own sheath
> knife, and could cook a dinner for three. *Give the kid a freakin' break,
> fergawdsakes!
>
> nb

On Feb 1, 2:47*pm, notbob > wrote:
> On 2009-02-01, Horry > wrote:
>
> > At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and I'd
> > like to expand his repertoire.
> > Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives....
>
> Why don't you just wrap him in animal balloons and pack him in a cotton
> lined coffin? *
>
> By time I was twelve, I was building campfires with a flint and steel, had
> earned my marksmanship andcookingmerit badges, carried my own sheath
> knife, and could cook a dinner for three. *Give the kid a freakin' break,
> fergawdsakes!
>
> nb

ok my tutor wanted me to put a resapie for yous guys i dont really
know how to cook but i do cook bacon an eggs all you have to do is
chuck evrything on the pan and put it on high untill burnt. sweet as!!!

On Feb 1, 2:47*pm, notbob > wrote:
> On 2009-02-01, Horry > wrote:
>
> > At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and I'd
> > like to expand his repertoire.
> > Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives....
>
> Why don't you just wrap him in animal balloons and pack him in a cotton
> lined coffin? *
>
> By time I was twelve, I was building campfires with a flint and steel, had
> earned my marksmanship andcookingmerit badges, carried my own sheath
> knife, and could cook a dinner for three. *Give the kid a freakin' break,
> fergawdsakes!
>
> nb

On Feb 1, 2:47*pm, notbob > wrote:
> On 2009-02-01, Horry > wrote:
>
> > At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and I'd
> > like to expand his repertoire.
> > Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives....
>
> Why don't you just wrap him in animal balloons and pack him in a cotton
> lined coffin? *
>
> By time I was twelve, I was building campfires with a flint and steel, had
> earned my marksmanship andcookingmerit badges, carried my own sheath
> knife, and could cook a dinner for three. *Give the kid a freakin' break,
> fergawdsakes!
>
> nb

A good one to start off with is a cheesecake recipe as the only
cooking involved is to warm some butter up and mix in the biscuit
crumbs and to put some hot water in a cup to mix the geletine. He
should then be able to use a pallete knife to even the top, thats if
you want it even.

Horry said...

>
> Is anyone able to suggest recipes suitable for a 12-year-old to cook/
> prepare?
>
> At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and I'd
> like to expand his repertoire.
>
> Dishes suited to a 12yo's palate would be best -- as he'd be reluctant to
> cook things he doesn't like to eat
>
> Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives (unless it'd be
> possible for an adult to pre-prepare the parts of the recipe requiring
> those things).
>
> Thanks!


Horry,

Cheesesteaks?

Parent or butcher would have to machine thin slice the chilled rib eye meat
(grey kangaroo, lamb, beef?)

Parent would also have to medium dice onions. The kids could do the rest.

Andy
Cheesesteak BUM!!!

On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:28:03 +0000, Andy wrote:

> Horry said...
>
>
>> Is anyone able to suggest recipes suitable for a 12-year-old to cook/
>> prepare?
>>
>> At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and
>> I'd like to expand his repertoire.
>>
>> Dishes suited to a 12yo's palate would be best -- as he'd be reluctant
>> to cook things he doesn't like to eat
>>
>> Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives (unless it'd be
>> possible for an adult to pre-prepare the parts of the recipe requiring
>> those things).
>>
>> Thanks!
>
>
> Horry,
>
> Cheesesteaks?
>
> Parent or butcher would have to machine thin slice the chilled rib eye
> meat (grey kangaroo, lamb, beef?)
>
> Parent would also have to medium dice onions. The kids could do the
> rest.

Sounds good... and appealing food for a kid.

Has anyone tried kangaroo meat cheesesteaks? A quick google search
didn't uncover anything... (AFAIK, cheesesteaks aren't particularly
common down here).

Thanks...

Horry said...

> On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:28:03 +0000, Andy wrote:
>
>> Horry said...
>>
>>
>>> Is anyone able to suggest recipes suitable for a 12-year-old to cook/
>>> prepare?
>>>
>>> At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and
>>> I'd like to expand his repertoire.
>>>
>>> Dishes suited to a 12yo's palate would be best -- as he'd be reluctant
>>> to cook things he doesn't like to eat
>>>
>>> Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives (unless it'd be
>>> possible for an adult to pre-prepare the parts of the recipe requiring
>>> those things).
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Horry,
>>
>> Cheesesteaks?
>>
>> Parent or butcher would have to machine thin slice the chilled rib eye
>> meat (grey kangaroo, lamb, beef?)
>>
>> Parent would also have to medium dice onions. The kids could do the
>> rest.
>
> Sounds good... and appealing food for a kid.
>
> Has anyone tried kangaroo meat cheesesteaks? A quick google search
> didn't uncover anything... (AFAIK, cheesesteaks aren't particularly
> common down here).
>
> Thanks...


Horry,

I've enjoyed grey kangaroo steaks! Nothing like Philly cheesesteaks.

Prepared to perfection by the boss's Mom in Adelaide!

I prefer hers! Catherine Mary Joseph [RIP]

Best,

Andy

In article >,
Horry > wrote:

> Has anyone tried kangaroo meat cheesesteaks? A quick google search
> didn't uncover anything... (AFAIK, cheesesteaks aren't particularly
> common down here).

You might start a national trend by being the first to cook it. You
might also throw the whole thing in the trash. I've never had the
opportunity to try kangaroo. The closest I could guess is "tastes like
possum" which I haven't eaten either.

leo

"Horry" wrote:

> Has anyone tried kangaroo meat cheesesteaks? A quick google search
> didn't uncover anything... (AFAIK, cheesesteaks aren't particularly
> common down here).

Yes, at least that's what I would have called it. A meal in Darwin. I
forget what *they* called'em though. They were fast cooked thin meat bits
layered on a toasted long bun with white cheeses in there and grilled
onions.

Same place that had the warning sign for us USA types that the 'Hamburgers'
were just that. Ham steaks on a burger bun <grin>. Right side of the
street by the big baobob tree with the Possum-looking family living in it.

"Andy" wrote
> Horry said...

> Cheesesteaks?
>
> Parent or butcher would have to machine thin slice the chilled rib eye
> meat
> (grey kangaroo, lamb, beef?)

Agreed. Taught Charlotte the 'half frozen slicing' but later, was nearing
14. (in our case, for making jerky in the dehydrator).

> Parent would also have to medium dice onions. The kids could do the rest.

Not really, parent may have to do the initial cut to say, quarters though
since it seems he (Horry's son I presume) is just starting knife skills.
Charlotte started earlier with knives so was able to handle this alone by
that age but a really big vidalia, I might halve for her back then.

Keeping in mind that you learn by doing, his initial cuts wont be so perfect
but they work fine for cooking!

Horry, here's a sample of a meal Charlotte liked then (still does) and well
in her level by then and I think for your 12YO. It's a semi- home made but
that's ok at this level.

1 can (28oz) chicken stock (we actually used our own home made)
1 small block firm tofu (100-150g or so will be used)
1 fistful of fresh green beans
3-4 large cabbage leaves
1 green onion

Set the tofu on a plate with another plate on top to press as much water out
as reasonable. While it presses, get the rest out. Set the stock to
warming on lowest setting. Wash the green beans and snap the ends off then
add to the stock (may cut smaller if desired or just snap smaller). Tear up
the cabbage to smaller bits (may cut or use hands). Cut green onion top to
about 1/2 to 1 inch bits and add to stock (can be hand torn too). Remove
palate from tofu the slice as reasonably even as a kid can to about 1/2 inch
thick (show him how to use a finger joint for this) then slice that down to
strips and add as much as seems right to the stock (put rest back in the
fridge). Let simmer and serve.

If tofu isnt a good one for him, try small sliced sausage bits in it's place
or some cooked bacon (warning to non-OZ and OZ folks, OZ bacon is NOT like
USA Bacon although it is used like it. Quite a different flavor).

In article >, "cshenk" >
wrote:
> Remove
> palate from tofu the slice as reasonably even as a kid can to about 1/2 inch
> thick (show him how to use a finger joint for this)

Please expand on that, Carol. Are you using that joint for measuring or
for keeping the knife off the finger flesh?
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller
http://gallery.me.com/barbschaller/100041
-- a woman my age shouldn't
have this much fun!

"Melba's Jammin'" wrote
> "cshenk" wrote:

>> Remove
>> plate from tofu the slice as reasonably even as a kid can to about 1/2
>> inch
>> thick (show him how to use a finger joint for this)
>
> Please expand on that, Carol. Are you using that joint for measuring or
> for keeping the knife off the finger flesh?

Both really but more to measure. Take the tofu block and put it flat.
Place hand across then back off so one finger joint worth isnt covered.
Place knife just before fingers and gently press down to cut. An adult can
do this measure by eye but the really young ones (say 6-8 depending on
culture and cooking teaching) find a guide like this is handy (grin).

Take the slices and lay sideways then either cube sorta (youngers will find
this easier) or slice one more long ways strip (past age 8 most can do this
by eye and need no hand to steady it).

If they goof a little, it doesnt matter, will cook up the same.

On Feb 2, 5:47*am, Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
> In article >, "cshenk" >
> wrote:
>
> > Remove
> > palate from tofu the slice as reasonably even as a kid can to about 1/2 inch
> > thick (show him how to use a finger joint for this)
>
> Please expand on that, Carol. *Are you using that joint for measuring or
> for keeping the knife off the finger flesh?
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJhttp://web.me.com/barbschallerhttp://gallery.me.com/barbschaller/100041
> -- a woman my age shouldn't
> have this much fun!

Don't tell child molestor Lucas!!!

"Horry" wrote

> Is anyone able to suggest recipes suitable for a 12-year-old to cook/
> prepare?

Generally stick to ones that have not too much more than 5 ingredients
(unless the extras are a little measure of dried spices etc). This is a
good age to learn some simple cassaroles.

> At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and I'd
> like to expand his repertoire.

Definately time.

> Dishes suited to a 12yo's palate would be best -- as he'd be reluctant to
> cook things he doesn't like to eat

What does he like? There's really little a kid age 12 cant manage unless
they arent used to a knife yet, and if so, supervise for a few months til
they get the hang of it.

> Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives (unless it'd be
> possible for an adult to pre-prepare the parts of the recipe requiring
> those things).

Actually, naked flames as in gas stove is fine. Hot liquids fine but teach
him to use a ladle to pull out a portion of soup, and get a strainer on a
handle so he can dip out hot pastas (eblows and the like shapes) from the
boiling water (vice lifting the pot to the sink). Get some tongs for that
too as spagetti shaped things are easier to manage that way.

On knives, 12 is old enough but no matter what the age, supervision and
showing 'safe cutting techniques' is needed at the start.

In my opinion, 12 is actually past the age when I expect a kid to be able to
handle basics in the kitchen with a knife. Maybe not yet to the 'slit a
pork loin so we can stuff it' level, but common things like chopping carrots
and such are well in line with that age. It's ok though if you are just
starting that. Not all kids are the same on all things and if this is the
age when you start, it's still in plenty of time.

In our home, cooking is a fun little event and normally involves all 3 of us
doing some portion. Charlotte could load the breadmaker by age 8 though
we'd have to put the pan in for her (not tall enough). By age 6 she was
helping wash vegetables and by age 7 able to handle a safety peeler (looks a
bit like a cheese slicer). By age 10 she was well into cutting vegetables
but not yet to 'fancy cuts' (home fries were her level). She's 15 now and i
can call her and tell her I'm running late and ask what's for dinner ;-)

On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:47:40 -0500, cshenk wrote:

> "Horry" wrote
>
>> Is anyone able to suggest recipes suitable for a 12-year-old to cook/
>> prepare?
>
> Generally stick to ones that have not too much more than 5 ingredients
> (unless the extras are a little measure of dried spices etc). This is a
> good age to learn some simple cassaroles.
>
>> At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and
>> I'd like to expand his repertoire.
>
> Definately time.
>
>> Dishes suited to a 12yo's palate would be best -- as he'd be reluctant
>> to cook things he doesn't like to eat
>
> What does he like? There's really little a kid age 12 cant manage
> unless they arent used to a knife yet, and if so, supervise for a few
> months til they get the hang of it.

Save for gherkins/pickles, he's not fussy.

We might try your recipe (after replacing the tofu with sliced
sausage ).


>> Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives (unless it'd be
>> possible for an adult to pre-prepare the parts of the recipe requiring
>> those things).
>
> Actually, naked flames as in gas stove is fine. Hot liquids fine but
> teach him to use a ladle to pull out a portion of soup, and get a
> strainer on a handle so he can dip out hot pastas (eblows and the like
> shapes) from the boiling water (vice lifting the pot to the sink). Get
> some tongs for that too as spagetti shaped things are easier to manage
> that way.
>
> On knives, 12 is old enough but no matter what the age, supervision and
> showing 'safe cutting techniques' is needed at the start.
>
> In my opinion, 12 is actually past the age when I expect a kid to be
> able to handle basics in the kitchen with a knife. Maybe not yet to the
> 'slit a pork loin so we can stuff it' level, but common things like
> chopping carrots and such are well in line with that age. It's ok
> though if you are just starting that. Not all kids are the same on all
> things and if this is the age when you start, it's still in plenty of
> time.
>
> In our home, cooking is a fun little event and normally involves all 3
> of us doing some portion. Charlotte could load the breadmaker by age 8
> though we'd have to put the pan in for her (not tall enough). By age 6
> she was helping wash vegetables and by age 7 able to handle a safety
> peeler (looks a bit like a cheese slicer). By age 10 she was well into
> cutting vegetables but not yet to 'fancy cuts' (home fries were her
> level).

Thanks for that. My main concern, at least for another year or so, is to
eradicate the possibility of accidents. If that necessitates wrapping
him in animal balloons and packing him in a cotton-lined coffin, so be
it...

I like your idea of involving everyone doing a portion.


> She's 15 now and i can call her and tell her I'm running late
> and ask what's for dinner ;-)

That's what I'm ultimately aiming for

In article >,
Horry > wrote:

> Thanks for that. My main concern, at least for another year or so, is to
> eradicate the possibility of accidents. If that necessitates wrapping
> him in animal balloons and packing him in a cotton-lined coffin, so be
> it...

Is he your only child? "Eradication" is impossible €” that's why they're
accidents. :-) And, believe me, they do happen. You can minimize the
likelihood of self-inflicted wounds, but you'll never eradicate them.
That's kind of why I said in my earlier post that teaching him about
some basic first aid is a good idea, too.

Timers are very handy to have, but only if you actually use them. :-)

Don't wrap him too tightly in the balloons and lined coffin; butterflies
fly because their wings are strong from the struggle of escaping the
cocoon. Encouraging them to get up without picking them up is a hard
thing to do but it helps them build confidence that they can move in the
world around them.

> > She's 15 now and i can call her and tell her I'm running late
> > and ask what's for dinner ;-)
>
> That's what I'm ultimately aiming for

Now, THAT'S an admirable goal!! Go, Carol! Go, Horry!
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller
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-- a woman my age shouldn't
have this much fun!

"Melba's Jammin'" wrote
> Horry wrote:

>> Thanks for that. My main concern, at least for another year or so, is to
>> eradicate the possibility of accidents. If that necessitates wrapping

> Is he your only child? "Eradication" is impossible - that's why they're
> accidents. :-) And, believe me, they do happen. You can minimize the
> likelihood of self-inflicted wounds, but you'll never eradicate them.

Grin, he has reasons but I'll let him explain. He may not want his chat
repeated. Lets just say, it's totally sensible in his case for another 2
years or so.

>> > She's 15 now and i can call her and tell her I'm running late
>> > and ask what's for dinner ;-)
>>
>> That's what I'm ultimately aiming for

> Now, THAT'S an admirable goal!! Go, Carol! Go, Horry!

Grins! And it's not just a can of something either! Because I slept late,
she made lunch. (I work odd shifts so sometimes get off at 5am).

Horry, your son isnt up to parts of this one yet without supervision but he
may like to help with it. I'll add notes in adaptions he can do himself
when I get to those.

Charlotte made:

-Rice in the rice maker (no biggie, 1 part rice, 2 parts water)

-corn on the cob (use tongs to pull out of boiling water, Daddy had to help
husk as I'd frozen them whole)

-Fresh green beans with mirin and dashi seasoning (think, cooked in stock)

-Caremelized onions in butter and olive oil with tilapia and lemon pepper
seasoning (Horry, this one he needs help with or you may get blackened fish
by accident. Alternative recipe in his level if you have a microwave is use
a plastic baggie and coat the fish with lemon pepper and let sit in the
fridge a few hours. Then, remove to a microwave safe container and nuke
about 2 mins, test, then nuke a bit more as needed to your desired
doneness).

"Horry" wrote
cshenk wrote:

>>> Dishes suited to a 12yo's palate would be best -- as he'd be reluctant
>>> to cook things he doesn't like to eat

I'll add this is a great age to take him with you to the grocery store for a
quick trip to get some goodies and show some of the things he's not tried
before. Let him pick a few new things. Like 1 new fruit, 1 new veggie, and
a basic item he'd like to try. Its just the age where they start to expand
out again their eating if not pressed too hard.

Make it a quick trip as most dont have a great attention span for this, but
let him wander at will.

At this age, Charlotte had been with us shopping more times than I can
count. I'd be at sea and she was too young to be left at home (we got to
Japan when she was 7) and later she'd help carry it all back (no car, used
pull carts on wheels). Charlotte is a little odd in that she loves a nice
long trip to the grocery store.

> Save for gherkins/pickles, he's not fussy.

Good!

> We might try your recipe (after replacing the tofu with sliced
> sausage ).

Hehehe figured so, but the recie comes from Japan living so it was
considered pretty normal stuff.

>> cutting vegetables but not yet to 'fancy cuts' (home fries were her
>> level).

> Thanks for that. My main concern, at least for another year or so, is to
> eradicate the possibility of accidents. If that necessitates wrapping
> him in animal balloons and packing him in a cotton-lined coffin, so be
> it...

Yes, and in chat it was obvious why. Keep as you are doing, it's for the
best for now.

> I like your idea of involving everyone doing a portion.

It's how we like it, and it makes it all fun. To her, cooking is a way of
life.

Because Don needs reduced sodium, when we go to the store she checks labels
with me and has found some lovely products well in his line. She'd watch
what he was getting when I was at sea and make him put back things he wasnt
allowed (or not let him get too much stuff that was over his limits). In my
case, need a near diabetic diet (except I can tolerate starches like rice,
potatoes and all that just fine) so it's low sugar. Add that I have very
high cholestrol if not strictly diet controlled, and you end up needing
pretty much to scratch cook.

We work the 3 main needs into each meal and have fun. Oh, have to avoid
spinach or broccoli when Don's home. He doesnt like them ;-)

>> She's 15 now and i can call her and tell her I'm running late
>> and ask what's for dinner ;-)
>
> That's what I'm ultimately aiming for

Yeah, it's pretty neat. I don't push it but she enjoys it the few times it
happens. At 15, she's well capable in the kitchen with simple things. Then
again, due to a unique lifestyle, she's been at it since she was 7 in
various age appropriate ways.

Not saying that that I'm fancy like Emeril, but you can imagine his kids
cook too and play in the kitchen with Dad. It's kinda like that.

i found this recipe but dont no if it will help use


Cheesecake
Category:
Dessert, Party food

Ingredients:


250g plain sweet biscuits, crushed 125g butter, melted
3 tsp gelatine
2 tbsp boiling water
250g cream cheese
250g cream, whipped
1/3 cup lemon juice
1 tsp grated lemon rind
1/2 cup caster sugar
Method:
Lightly grease a 20cm/ 9in spring form cheesecake pan with melted
butter (or perhaps a little oil). Line the base with baking paper.

Combine the crushed biscuits with the melted butter. Press biscuit
mixture into the bottom and up the sides of the spring form cheesecake
pan. Refrigerate the cheesecake base while you prepare the cheesecake
filling.

In a small bowl, dissolve the gelatine in the boiling water.

In a separate (larger) bowl, beat the cream cheese, sugar, lemon juice
and rind until the mixture is smooth (less than 5 minutes if you're
using an electric mixer).

Add dissolved gelatine to the cream cheese mixture and mix well.

With a large metal spoon, gently fold the whipped cream into the other
ingredients.

Pour entire mixture into the cheesecake base and refrigerate until set
(approx 6 hours, but overnight is preferable).

On Feb 1, 3:47*pm, "cshenk" > wrote:
> "Horry" wrote
>
> > Is anyone able to suggest recipes suitable for a 12-year-old to cook/
> > prepare?
>
> Generally stick to ones that have not too much more than 5 ingredients
> (unless the extras are a little measure of dried spices etc). *This is a
> good age to learn some simple cassaroles.
>
> > At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and I'd
> > like to expand his repertoire.
>
> Definately time.
>
> > Dishes suited to a 12yo's palate would be best -- as he'd be reluctant to
> > cook things he doesn't like to eat
>
> What does he like? *There's really little a kid age 12 cant manage unless
> they arent used to a knife yet, and if so, supervise for a few months til
> they get the hang of it.
>
> > Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives (unless it'd be
> > possible for an adult to pre-prepare the parts of the recipe requiring
> > those things).
>
> Actually, naked flames as in gas stove is fine. *Hot liquids fine but teach
> him to use a ladle to pull out a portion of soup, and get a strainer on a
> handle so he can dip out hot pastas (eblows and the like shapes) from the
> boiling water (vice lifting the pot to the sink). *Get some tongs for that
> too as spagetti shaped things are easier to manage that way.
>
> On knives, 12 is old enough but no matter what the age, supervision and
> showing 'safe cutting techniques' is needed at the start.
>
> In my opinion, 12 is actually past the age when I expect a kid to be able to
> handle basics in the kitchen with a knife. *Maybe not yet to the 'slit a
> pork loin so we can stuff it' level, but common things like chopping carrots
> and such are well in line with that age. *It's ok though if you are just
> starting that. *Not all kids are the same on all things and if this is the
> age when you start, it's still in plenty of time.
>
> In our home,cookingis a fun little event and normally involves all 3 of us
> doing some portion. *Charlotte could load the breadmaker by age 8 though
> we'd have to put the pan in for her (not tall enough). *By age 6 she was
> helping wash vegetables and by age 7 able to handle a safety peeler (looks a
> bit like a cheese slicer). *By age 10 she was well into cutting vegetables
> but not yet to 'fancy cuts' (home fries were her level). *She's 15 now and i
> can call her and tell her I'm running late and ask what's for dinner ;-)



here you go, this is an easy recipe for a 12 year old . .so i was
told.


2 c (24) Chocolate-Creme filled Cookies (very finely chopped)

6 tbs Margarine, Softened

1 ea Env. Unflavored Gelatin

1/4 c Cold Water

8 oz Cream Cheese (softened)

1/2 c Sugar

3/4 c Milk

1 c Whipped Cream

1 1/4 c Chocolate-Creme filled Cookies (coarsely chopped)


How to Prepare :


Combine cookie crumbs and margarine; press onto the bottom of a 9-inch
spring-form pan. Soften gelatin in water; stir over low heat until
dissolved. Combine cream cheese and sugar, mixing at medium speed with
an electric mixer until well blended.



Gradually add gelatin mixture and milk, mixing until well blended.
Chill until mixture is thickened but not set. Fold in whipped cream.
Reserve 1 1/2 C cream cheese mixture; pour remaining cream cheese
mixture over crust. Top with cookies and reserved cream cheese
mixture. Chill until firm.

On Feb 1, 3:47*pm, "cshenk" > wrote:
> "Horry" wrote
>
> > Is anyone able to suggest recipes suitable for a 12-year-old to cook/
> > prepare?
>
> Generally stick to ones that have not too much more than 5 ingredients
> (unless the extras are a little measure of dried spices etc). *This is a
> good age to learn some simple cassaroles.
> nonstr
> > At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and I'd
> > like to expand his repertoire.
>
> Definately time.
>
> > Dishes suited to a 12yo's palate would be best -- as he'd be reluctant to
> > cook things he doesn't like to eat
>
> What does he like? *There's really little a kid age 12 cant manage unless
> they arent used to a knife yet, and if so, supervise for a few months til
> they get the hang of it.
>
> > Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives (unless it'd be
> > possible for an adult to pre-prepare the parts of the recipe requiring
> > those things).
>
> Actually, naked flames as in gas stove is fine. *Hot liquids fine but teach
> him to use a ladle to pull out a portion of soup, and get a strainer on a
> handle so he can dip out hot pastas (eblows and the like shapes) from the
> boiling water (vice lifting the pot to the sink). *Get some tongs for that
> too as spagetti shaped things are easier to manage that way.
>
> On knives, 12 is old enough but no matter what the age, supervision and
> showing 'safe cutting techniques' is needed at the start.
>
> In my opinion, 12 is actually past the age when I expect a kid to be able to
> handle basics in the kitchen with a knife. *Maybe not yet to the 'slit a
> pork loin so we can stuff it' level, but common things like chopping carrots
> and such are well in line with that age. *It's ok though if you are just
> starting that. *Not all kids are the same on all things and if this is the
> age when you start, it's still in plenty of time.
>
> In our home,cookingis a fun little event and normally involves all 3 of us
> doing some portion. *Charlotte could load the breadmaker by age 8 though
> we'd have to put the pan in for her (not tall enough). *By age 6 she was
> helping wash vegetables and by age 7 able to handle a safety peeler (looks a
> bit like a cheese slicer). *By age 10 she was well into cutting vegetables
> but not yet to 'fancy cuts' (home fries were her level). *She's 15 now and i
> can call her and tell her I'm running late and ask what's for dinner ;-)

On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:22:15 +0000, Horry wrote:

> Is anyone able to suggest recipes suitable for a 12-year-old to cook/
> prepare?
>
> At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and I'd
> like to expand his repertoire.
>
> Dishes suited to a 12yo's palate would be best -- as he'd be reluctant
> to cook things he doesn't like to eat
>
> Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives (unless it'd be
> possible for an adult to pre-prepare the parts of the recipe requiring
> those things).

The kid is 12 years old and can't handle hot liquids or naked flames?

On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 03:10:39 +0000, Administrator wrote:

> On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:22:15 +0000, Horry wrote:
>
>> Is anyone able to suggest recipes suitable for a 12-year-old to cook/
>> prepare?
>>
>> At the moment, he's basically limited himself to baking cakes -- and
>> I'd like to expand his repertoire.
>>
>> Dishes suited to a 12yo's palate would be best -- as he'd be reluctant
>> to cook things he doesn't like to eat
>>
>> Obviously, no naked flames, hot liquids, sharp knives (unless it'd be
>> possible for an adult to pre-prepare the parts of the recipe requiring
>> those things).
>
> The kid is 12 years old and can't handle hot liquids or naked flames?

He's probably quite capable of handling hot liquids and naked flames.

"Horry" wrote

> He's probably quite capable of handling hot liquids and naked flames.

So nice to chat with you last night Horry! Well, night for me at least ;-)

For the others, he meant pouring boiling liquids and for flames meant things
like flambe's or since he was specifically addressing cake making, those
little blow torches you see chefs with on TV. Stuff like that. Not normal
things like heating a soup or using a burner on the stove (or in his case,
mentioned hot plates being what they have and use mostly).

Sensible. Charlotte wasnt allowed to dump over a pot of boiling pasta from
the stove to the sink colander at that age either.