Babysitting the nephews again today. :-)

Earlier when Chas brought them over, he said they were ready for lunch.
That was aboug 11 AM. The eldest (Dyson, 6 y/o) asked for scrambled eggs
and cheese. QED.
I also sliced up and nuked some smoked sausage.

I'll have them here until late tonight.

I just gently heated some cooked shrimp and put it out for them. They
are enjoying that, plus some raw baby spinach coated with bacon ranch
dressing.

Morgan, the 3 y/o, refused to try that at first until I told him he
could spit it out if he didn't like it. Needless to say, he didn't spit
it out. <g>

Both are currently diving into the bowl of "salad"...

I like babysitting.
--
Peace! Om

"Any ship can be a minesweeper. Once." -- Anonymous

Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-1E5014.15560301022009
@news-wc.giganews.com:

> Babysitting the nephews again today. :-)
>
> Earlier when Chas brought them over, he said they were ready for lunch.
> That was aboug 11 AM. The eldest (Dyson, 6 y/o) asked for scrambled eggs
> and cheese. QED.
> I also sliced up and nuked some smoked sausage.




First mistake. You *never* give them what they want/ask for.


When I was babysitting/looking after the kids, I'd say "Are you lot
hungry?"........ and then I'd put food in front of them.


"What's that? You don't want to eat what's there? No worries.... move away
from the table so the rest of then can get fed."

"What's that? You're hungry? There's food on the table. If you don't want
to eat it, then it looks like you're going to stay hungry."


>
> I like babysitting.



I'm glad I don't have to do it anymore.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

Tell me what you eat and I'll tell you who you are.

Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin

In article > ,
PeterL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-1E5014.15560301022009
> @news-wc.giganews.com:
>
> > Babysitting the nephews again today. :-)
> >
> > Earlier when Chas brought them over, he said they were ready for lunch.
> > That was aboug 11 AM. The eldest (Dyson, 6 y/o) asked for scrambled eggs
> > and cheese. QED.
> > I also sliced up and nuked some smoked sausage.
>
>
>
>
> First mistake. You *never* give them what they want/ask for.

Why not? I had eggs and cheese, and I can cook scrambled eggs. :-)
They ate them up.

>
>
> When I was babysitting/looking after the kids, I'd say "Are you lot
> hungry?"........ and then I'd put food in front of them.
>
>
> "What's that? You don't want to eat what's there? No worries.... move away
> from the table so the rest of then can get fed."
>
> "What's that? You're hungry? There's food on the table. If you don't want
> to eat it, then it looks like you're going to stay hungry."

Sorry, but I prefer not to treat the boys the way I HATED to be treated
when I was their age.

Kids have rights too.

I still remember what it was like and it was bloody unfair.
It sucked big time!

My sister and brother in law have never forced these two to eat stuff
they don't like and as a result, they eat almost everything! That can't
be said about a lot of kids.

Lynn's kids are the same way as they were treated the same way. Lynn is
my best friend and I sometimes babysit her kids too. They will try
anything I offer them as they know they won't be forced to eat it if
they don't like it.

They all love Sushi for instance. :-) Not too many can claim that.
>
>
> >
> > I like babysitting.
>
>
>
> I'm glad I don't have to do it anymore.

See above. Sorry Peter, but we'll have to agree to disagree on that one!
Cut kids a little slack and they can be a joy to have around. I love
them.

And I've never even had any of my own...
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

Omelet > wrote in
news

>
> See above. Sorry Peter, but we'll have to agree to disagree on that one!


I wouldn't have it any other way!!


(I'll get back to you on the rest of it after some shuteye.)



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

Tell me what you eat and I'll tell you who you are.

Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin

In article > ,
PeterL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in
> news >
>
> >
> > See above. Sorry Peter, but we'll have to agree to disagree on that one!
>
>
> I wouldn't have it any other way!!
>
>
> (I'll get back to you on the rest of it after some shuteye.)

Cheers!
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:16:20 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

>
>Kids have rights too.

When their name is on the deed.....they get to make up the rules. Be
THE PARENT OR CARETAKER first!!! They will thank you later and
learn valuable lessons in rearing their own children.

In article >,
Mr. Bill > wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:16:20 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Kids have rights too.
>
> When their name is on the deed.....they get to make up the rules. Be
> THE PARENT OR CARETAKER first!!!

Bullshit.

> They will thank you later and
> learn valuable lessons in rearing their own children.
>
>
>
>

And they will hate certain foods for the rest of their lives...

I will NOT treat my nephews like I was treated! And my sister won't
either.

As a result, these two kids love a far greater variety and are not
afraid to try stuff.

We really need to get over the power trip too many parents practice
against their kids. It's just plain ****ing WRONG!
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:09:36 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

> It's just plain

....your foul language probably doesn't permit you to read anything but
a newsgroup.

This would be appropriate...................Proverbs 13:24

Obvious...you do not have children of your own....and maybe a small
blessing is disguise.

In article >,
Mr. Bill > wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:09:36 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> > It's just plain
>
> ...your foul language probably doesn't permit you to read anything but
> a newsgroup.
>
> This would be appropriate...................Proverbs 13:24
>
> Obvious...you do not have children of your own....and maybe a small
> blessing is disguise.

Nope! I don't. I just get to borrow children and give them back when I'm
done playing with them.

Which might explain why I refuse to abuse them like you do.

Forcing kids to eat food they don't like is ABUSE! And there is no way
in hell you are ever going to convince me otherwise.

Unlike you, I remember what it was like to be a kid. I won't subject
children under MY care to that kind of horrific treatment.
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:57:59 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

>Unlike you, I remember what it was like to be a kid. I won't subject
>children under MY care to that kind of horrific treatment.

I am sorry that your childhood environment was "horrific". There
are many good doctors today that could help you through your childhood
nightmares that you have brought with you to your adult life.

May you find peace and learn forgiveness. It is affecting your adult
thinking.

In article >,
Mr. Bill > wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:57:59 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >Unlike you, I remember what it was like to be a kid. I won't subject
> >children under MY care to that kind of horrific treatment.
>
> I am sorry that your childhood environment was "horrific". There
> are many good doctors today that could help you through your childhood
> nightmares that you have brought with you to your adult life.
>
> May you find peace and learn forgiveness. It is affecting your adult
> thinking.
>

My gods... You are such a hypocrite.

So, you will force children to eat food that tastes likes shit to them.
I feel sorry for any kids under your care...

All you will do is warp their adult tastes!
Trust me on that!

My sister got it right. To date, the only food Dyson dislikes is mashed
spuds. He adores all kinds of Sushi!

He's 6.

That's pretty good in MY book!

Last night I offered Morgan some baby spinach leaves in Bacon Ranch
dressing. Morgan is 3. He did not want them at first until I reassured
him he could spit it in the trash if he did not like it.

He ate a lot of them after that. ;-)

Forcing kids to eat stuff they don't like is WRONG. All it does is
scare them. Sis' and my method is better.
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> Mr. Bill > wrote:
>
>
>>On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:16:20 -0600, Omelet >
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Kids have rights too.
>>
>>When their name is on the deed.....they get to make up the rules. Be
>>THE PARENT OR CARETAKER first!!!
>
>
> Bullshit.
>
>
>>They will thank you later and
>>learn valuable lessons in rearing their own children.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> And they will hate certain foods for the rest of their lives...
>
> I will NOT treat my nephews like I was treated! And my sister won't
> either.

My mother was an indifferent cook at best but she wasn't generally
abusive about food. Except for once. When I was 7 she made guacamole
tostadas (for the very first time) for dinner on Halloween and refused
to let my sister and I go out for trick or treating until we ate them.
I stuck mine to the underside of the dinner table when she wasn't
looking and came back and cleaned it off the next day.

My younger sister, crying and retching, actually ate hers. I felt sorry
for her, but not sorry enough to show her how to avoid it. If I had,
sure as god made little green apples she'd have used it to blackmail me.
As I've said before, being a shit has consequences.

However, if my paternal grandmother had raised me I have no doubt that I
would have wound up bulemic. *She* would fill your plate for you and
you were expected to Eat It All. This, after my grandfather had been
plying us with entire bottles of sodas and popsicles and cookies and god
knows what all else, all afternoon.

My kids are expected to try a tiny amount of new foods but after that
they are allowed to say no thank you to items they don't care for.
They're not allowed to ask for something else but they can say no.

On a recent trip to Costco, I found my daughter standing in front of the
cheese case, transfixed by a package of fresh mozzarella. I couldn't
remember having bought it any time recently and asked her when she'd
ever had it. "You made a salad with it once, sliced it up with fresh
tomatoes and basil and olive oil. I was mad when you made me try it but
it was so good. It's the only way I really like tomatoes. I wish it
was summer."

And I was like, huh, who knew?

>
> As a result, these two kids love a far greater variety and are not
> afraid to try stuff.

My kids will eat just about anything, including, in my daughter's case,
homemade garlic liver dog treats.

> We really need to get over the power trip too many parents practice
> against their kids. It's just plain ****ing WRONG!

Yup. Food is not a moral issue.

"Kathleen" wrote

> My mother was an indifferent cook at best but she wasn't generally abusive
> about food. Except for once. When I was 7 she made guacamole

Giggle, same here. Just once did Mom make me eat liver. I gave it back the
hard way ;-)

She didnt fix it again for years and i did voluntarily try it then, same
result but made it to the sink. After that, she made it rarely and fixed me
lots of sides (knowing I turn vegetarian easily for a few meals running).
She'd make my all time favorite side of Macaroni and Cheese (one of her best
dishes, truely good stuff!) and I'd get a huge plateful while the others
just got a normal serving and their beloved liver and onions.

> However, if my paternal grandmother had raised me I have no doubt that I
> would have wound up bulemic. *She* would fill your plate for you and you
> were expected to Eat It All. This, after my grandfather had been plying
> us with entire bottles of sodas and popsicles and cookies and god knows
> what all else, all afternoon.

Good lord! Mom never did that.

> My kids are expected to try a tiny amount of new foods but after that they
> are allowed to say no thank you to items they don't care for. They're not
> allowed to ask for something else but they can say no.

Same here. Only liver squicked me out really bad and only once was I
required to take a taste. After that, it was voluntary and i did try it
again because my brother and sister liked it so much.

> On a recent trip to Costco, I found my daughter standing in front of the
> cheese case, transfixed by a package of fresh mozzarella. I couldn't
> remember having bought it any time recently and asked her when she'd ever
> had it. "You made a salad with it once, sliced it up with fresh tomatoes
> and basil and olive oil. I was mad when you made me try it but it was so
> good. It's the only way I really like tomatoes. I wish it was summer."
>
> And I was like, huh, who knew?

;-)

>> As a result, these two kids love a far greater variety and are not afraid
>> to try stuff.
>
> My kids will eat just about anything, including, in my daughter's case,
> homemade garlic liver dog treats.

Bwahahaha!

cshenk wrote:

> "Kathleen" wrote

>>
>>My kids will eat just about anything, including, in my daughter's case,
>>homemade garlic liver dog treats.
>
>
> Bwahahaha!
>
>

Seriously.

This is a kid who had a major fight with her grandmother over not liking
sauteed chicken livers but then turns around and steals chunks of fresh
baked dog treats, salts them and eats them.

In article >,
Kathleen > wrote:

> My mother was an indifferent cook at best but she wasn't generally
> abusive about food. Except for once. When I was 7 she made guacamole
> tostadas (for the very first time) for dinner on Halloween and refused
> to let my sister and I go out for trick or treating until we ate them.
> I stuck mine to the underside of the dinner table when she wasn't
> looking and came back and cleaned it off the next day.
>
> My younger sister, crying and retching, actually ate hers. I felt sorry
> for her, but not sorry enough to show her how to avoid it. If I had,
> sure as god made little green apples she'd have used it to blackmail me.
> As I've said before, being a shit has consequences.
>
> However, if my paternal grandmother had raised me I have no doubt that I
> would have wound up bulemic. *She* would fill your plate for you and
> you were expected to Eat It All. This, after my grandfather had been
> plying us with entire bottles of sodas and popsicles and cookies and god
> knows what all else, all afternoon.
>
> My kids are expected to try a tiny amount of new foods but after that
> they are allowed to say no thank you to items they don't care for.
> They're not allowed to ask for something else but they can say no.
>
> On a recent trip to Costco, I found my daughter standing in front of the
> cheese case, transfixed by a package of fresh mozzarella. I couldn't
> remember having bought it any time recently and asked her when she'd
> ever had it. "You made a salad with it once, sliced it up with fresh
> tomatoes and basil and olive oil. I was mad when you made me try it but
> it was so good. It's the only way I really like tomatoes. I wish it
> was summer."
>
> And I was like, huh, who knew?
>
> >
> > As a result, these two kids love a far greater variety and are not
> > afraid to try stuff.
>
> My kids will eat just about anything, including, in my daughter's case,
> homemade garlic liver dog treats.
>
> > We really need to get over the power trip too many parents practice
> > against their kids. It's just plain ****ing WRONG!
>
> Yup. Food is not a moral issue.

Thanks Kathleen. :-) I don't have any trouble getting either my
sister's kids of Linda's kids to at least try stuff. They are allowed to
spit it out if they don't like it.

To date, they rarely do!
And they like my cooking. <g>

I want to try making some Insalata with queso fresca and spinach leaves
or Basil. I plan to grow basil this summer...
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

In article >,
Kathleen > wrote:

> cshenk wrote:
>
> > "Kathleen" wrote
>
> >>
> >>My kids will eat just about anything, including, in my daughter's case,
> >>homemade garlic liver dog treats.
> >
> >
> > Bwahahaha!
> >
> >
>
> Seriously.
>
> This is a kid who had a major fight with her grandmother over not liking
> sauteed chicken livers but then turns around and steals chunks of fresh
> baked dog treats, salts them and eats them.

That's too funny. :-)
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

In article > ,
says...
>
> Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-1E5014.15560301022009
> @news-wc.giganews.com:
>
> > Babysitting the nephews again today. :-)
> >
> > Earlier when Chas brought them over, he said they were ready for lunch.
> > That was aboug 11 AM. The eldest (Dyson, 6 y/o) asked for scrambled eggs
> > and cheese. QED.
> > I also sliced up and nuked some smoked sausage.
>
>
>
>
> First mistake. You *never* give them what they want/ask for.
>
>
> When I was babysitting/looking after the kids, I'd say "Are you lot
> hungry?"........ and then I'd put food in front of them.
>
>
> "What's that? You don't want to eat what's there? No worries.... move away
> from the table so the rest of then can get fed."
>
> "What's that? You're hungry? There's food on the table. If you don't want
> to eat it, then it looks like you're going to stay hungry."
>
>
> >
> > I like babysitting.
>
>
>
> I'm glad I don't have to do it anymore.


For about a years time we babysat an eight year old and an infant so
their mom could do classes.

Myself and the eight year old were thick as thieves. I know that I'd be
a very permissive parent if we had any kids.

Keyron on the other hand. Whoa. One day I went and got us all breakfast,
and Dominick got french toast. I had to step out for about a half hour
(Database server issue!) and when I got back Dominick was in tears over
his french toast. There was maybe a bite or so left.

Apparently Keyron told him he wasn't getting out of his seat until he
finished ALL of it

And now of course we have a new nephew. If its up to me he's going to be
one spoiled kid.

On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:16:20 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article > ,
> PeterL > wrote:
>
>
>They all love Sushi for instance. :-) Not too many can claim that.
>>
GS (who used to be a picky eater, first class) loves sushi... my DD
says "It's all in the presentation", because his first sushi
experiences (age 2) were at a "boat place" where he could reach out
and grab what appealed to him.
>>
>> >
>> > I like babysitting.
>>
>> I'm glad I don't have to do it anymore.
>
>See above. Sorry Peter, but we'll have to agree to disagree on that one!
>Cut kids a little slack and they can be a joy to have around. I love
>them.
>
>And I've never even had any of my own...

Aunties like you are what many kids need in their lives... firm, but
flexible.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Mon 02 Feb 2009 09:32:19p, sf told us...

> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:16:20 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
>>In article > ,
>> PeterL > wrote:
>>
>>
>>They all love Sushi for instance. :-) Not too many can claim that.
>>>
> GS (who used to be a picky eater, first class) loves sushi... my DD
> says "It's all in the presentation", because his first sushi
> experiences (age 2) were at a "boat place" where he could reach out
> and grab what appealed to him.

At age 2 I would probably have spat it out. At age 64 I know better than to
take a piece. :-)

--
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e-mail to wayneboatwright at gmail dot com
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On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:36:22 -0600, Kathleen
> wrote:

>On a recent trip to Costco, I found my daughter standing in front of the
>cheese case, transfixed by a package of fresh mozzarella. I couldn't
>remember having bought it any time recently and asked her when she'd
>ever had it. "You made a salad with it once, sliced it up with fresh
>tomatoes and basil and olive oil. I was mad when you made me try it but
>it was so good. It's the only way I really like tomatoes. I wish it
>was summer."
>
>And I was like, huh, who knew?

LOL! I had the 3 bite rule with my son (and daughter). You had to
take three bites (not snippets) of whatever food you think is only by
looking at it and *swallow*. After that, you don't have to eat it.

Years later, my son told me he *hated* me for doing that. I was
disappointed, of course, but he followed it up by saying that I was
right (it tasted good)... but he didn't want to admit it at the time.

Today, he's a wonderful cook who goes to restaurants and replicates
what he likes best at home. So, my child abuse was all for the best.

On the dark side, I clearly remember spending hours (maybe it was more
like one hour) at the dinner table staring at some horrible yucky
thing, like mushy canned peas, that I didn't want to eat.




--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

Li'l Wayne Boatwrong gobbled:


> On Mon 02 Feb 2009 09:32:19p, sf told us...
>
> > On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:16:20 -0600, Omelet >
> > wrote:
>
> >>In article > ,
> >> PeterL > wrote:
>
> >>They all love Sushi for instance. :-) *Not too many can claim that.
>
> > GS (who used to be a picky eater, first class) loves sushi... my DD
> > says "It's all in the presentation", because his first sushi
> > experiences (age 2) were at a "boat place" where he could reach out
> > and grab what appealed to him.
>
> At age 2 I would probably have spat it out. At age 64 I know better than to
> take a piece. :-)


Keep a - tawkin', Li'l Wayne...

With those new choppers you could swallow even Lucas' prehensile
peenie, LOL...


:-P


--
Best
Greg

On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:40:48 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>At age 2 I would probably have spat it out. At age 64 I know better than to
>take a piece. :-)

You're such a BRAT!



--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

Omelet wrote:


> My sister and brother in law have never forced these two to eat stuff
> they don't like and as a result, they eat almost everything! That
> can't be said about a lot of kids.

Well, it can also be said about my kids. Never forced them to eat stuff
they didn't like either - although I've always encouraged them to try
new (to them) foods... And guess what? They eat most things now. Of
course, there are a couple things they *really* don't like, but that's
OK with me. Heh. You should see my 5 y/o scarf down snails <g>. First
time I offered them to her she gave me a sort of 'funny look' - but
tried them anyway - now she'll ask me to make them for her...

And as for asking kids what they would like to eat - especially if
they're not your own kids and you don't live with them 24/7 - I see
nothing wrong with that. IMHO, there's no point in making something for
your own kids if you know they don't like it, or in the case of
friends'/relatives' kids, making something for them and only finding
out that they don't like it (or may even be allergic) after the fact...
Again IMHO, that's just a waste of good food.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy - who still hates cabbage ;-)

On Mon 02 Feb 2009 10:35:39p, sf told us...

> On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:40:48 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>At age 2 I would probably have spat it out. At age 64 I know better than
>>to take a piece. :-)
>
> You're such a BRAT!
>
>
>

I know. But you know what they say about "only children".

--
Wayne Boatwright
e-mail to wayneboatwright at gmail dot com
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On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:22:28 -0500, Mr. Bill wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:09:36 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
>> It's just plain
>
> ...your foul language probably doesn't permit you to read anything but
> a newsgroup.
>

you're such a delicate flower, mr. bill!

> This would be appropriate...................Proverbs 13:24
>
> Obvious...you do not have children of your own....and maybe a small
> blessing is disguise.

i guess your parents 'rodded' you enough to produce a genuinely tight-assed
human being. congratulations.

blake

On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:06:10 -0500, Mr. Bill wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:57:59 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
>>Unlike you, I remember what it was like to be a kid. I won't subject
>>children under MY care to that kind of horrific treatment.
>
> I am sorry that your childhood environment was "horrific". There
> are many good doctors today that could help you through your childhood
> nightmares that you have brought with you to your adult life.
>
> May you find peace and learn forgiveness. It is affecting your adult
> thinking.
>

yeah, it's a shame she didn't turn out as well-adjusted as you did.

blake

On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:36:22 -0600, Kathleen wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
>> We really need to get over the power trip too many parents practice
>> against their kids. It's just plain ****ing WRONG!
>
> Yup. Food is not a moral issue.

and really, how pathetic is it to get into a power struggle with a
six-year-old?

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:40:48 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Mon 02 Feb 2009 09:32:19p, sf told us...
>
>> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:16:20 -0600, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>In article > ,
>>> PeterL > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>They all love Sushi for instance. :-) Not too many can claim that.
>>>>
>> GS (who used to be a picky eater, first class) loves sushi... my DD
>> says "It's all in the presentation", because his first sushi
>> experiences (age 2) were at a "boat place" where he could reach out
>> and grab what appealed to him.
>
> At age 2 I would probably have spat it out. At age 64 I know better than to
> take a piece. :-)

granted, really fresh fish might be a problem in arizona, but i can't help
thinking you're making a mistake here, wayne.

your pal,
blake

blake wrote on Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:15:30 GMT:

>> On Mon 02 Feb 2009 09:32:19p, sf told us...
>>
>>> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:16:20 -0600, Omelet >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article
>>>> > , PeterL
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> They all love Sushi for instance. :-) Not too many can
>>>> claim that.
>>>>>
>>> GS (who used to be a picky eater, first class) loves
>>> sushi... my DD says "It's all in the presentation", because
>>> his first sushi experiences (age 2) were at a "boat place"
>>> where he could reach out and grab what appealed to him.
>>
>> At age 2 I would probably have spat it out. At age 64 I know
>> better than to take a piece. :-)

> granted, really fresh fish might be a problem in arizona, but
> i can't help thinking you're making a mistake here, wayne.

It's not a safety problem usually but AYCE sushi, as often served in
Chinese buffets, may be competently made but the quality of the fish is
inferior and I wouldn't blame a discriminating child for refusing it.
The quality can a bit higher at places like Whole Foods if they have
sushi available at counters staffed by contract staff. That's not to say
that there are not good AYCE sushi restaurants.
--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:16:20 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >In article > ,
> > PeterL > wrote:
> >
> >
> >They all love Sushi for instance. :-) Not too many can claim that.
> >>
> GS (who used to be a picky eater, first class) loves sushi... my DD
> says "It's all in the presentation", because his first sushi
> experiences (age 2) were at a "boat place" where he could reach out
> and grab what appealed to him.

Sis' and Chas did buffets with the boys a lot so they offered them a
large variety and let them eat what they wanted.

> >>
> >> >
> >> > I like babysitting.
> >>
> >> I'm glad I don't have to do it anymore.
> >
> >See above. Sorry Peter, but we'll have to agree to disagree on that one!
> >Cut kids a little slack and they can be a joy to have around. I love
> >them.
> >
> >And I've never even had any of my own...
>
> Aunties like you are what many kids need in their lives... firm, but
> flexible.

Thanks. :-)
I try to follow Chas's rules for the most part, but they behave for me
so it's not generally a problem.
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:36:22 -0600, Kathleen
> > wrote:
>
> >On a recent trip to Costco, I found my daughter standing in front of the
> >cheese case, transfixed by a package of fresh mozzarella. I couldn't
> >remember having bought it any time recently and asked her when she'd
> >ever had it. "You made a salad with it once, sliced it up with fresh
> >tomatoes and basil and olive oil. I was mad when you made me try it but
> >it was so good. It's the only way I really like tomatoes. I wish it
> >was summer."
> >
> >And I was like, huh, who knew?
>
> LOL! I had the 3 bite rule with my son (and daughter). You had to
> take three bites (not snippets) of whatever food you think is only by
> looking at it and *swallow*. After that, you don't have to eat it.
>
> Years later, my son told me he *hated* me for doing that. I was
> disappointed, of course, but he followed it up by saying that I was
> right (it tasted good)... but he didn't want to admit it at the time.
>
> Today, he's a wonderful cook who goes to restaurants and replicates
> what he likes best at home. So, my child abuse was all for the best.
>
> On the dark side, I clearly remember spending hours (maybe it was more
> like one hour) at the dinner table staring at some horrible yucky
> thing, like mushy canned peas, that I didn't want to eat.
>
>

My own bad food experiences as a child are the very reason I won't do
the same to kids under my care. <g>

I think I'd like beets if it were not for that!
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

In article >,
ChattyCathy > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
>
> > My sister and brother in law have never forced these two to eat stuff
> > they don't like and as a result, they eat almost everything! That
> > can't be said about a lot of kids.
>
> Well, it can also be said about my kids. Never forced them to eat stuff
> they didn't like either - although I've always encouraged them to try
> new (to them) foods... And guess what? They eat most things now. Of
> course, there are a couple things they *really* don't like, but that's
> OK with me. Heh. You should see my 5 y/o scarf down snails <g>. First
> time I offered them to her she gave me a sort of 'funny look' - but
> tried them anyway - now she'll ask me to make them for her...

Oh that's awesome. ;-)

>
> And as for asking kids what they would like to eat - especially if
> they're not your own kids and you don't live with them 24/7 - I see
> nothing wrong with that. IMHO, there's no point in making something for
> your own kids if you know they don't like it, or in the case of
> friends'/relatives' kids, making something for them and only finding
> out that they don't like it (or may even be allergic) after the fact...
> Again IMHO, that's just a waste of good food.

Indeed. I know they love grapes for instance, so I get a bunch when I
know I'm going to be sitting and let them graze on them. I also keep
applesauce cups on hand.

I was munching a couple of hard boiled eggs for _my_ snack and Dyson
snitched some! <lol>

I'll have to make them some deviled eggs next time just for grins.
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:06:10 -0500, Mr. Bill wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:57:59 -0600, Omelet >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Unlike you, I remember what it was like to be a kid. I won't subject
> >>children under MY care to that kind of horrific treatment.
> >
> > I am sorry that your childhood environment was "horrific". There
> > are many good doctors today that could help you through your childhood
> > nightmares that you have brought with you to your adult life.
> >
> > May you find peace and learn forgiveness. It is affecting your adult
> > thinking.
> >
>
> yeah, it's a shame she didn't turn out as well-adjusted as you did.
>
> blake

<snicker>
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:36:22 -0600, Kathleen wrote:
>
> > Omelet wrote:
> >
> >> We really need to get over the power trip too many parents practice
> >> against their kids. It's just plain ****ing WRONG!
> >
> > Yup. Food is not a moral issue.
>
> and really, how pathetic is it to get into a power struggle with a
> six-year-old?
>
> your pal,
> blake

<nods>
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

On Feb 2, 8:16*am, Omelet > wrote:
> In article > ,
>
> *PeterL > wrote:
> > Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-1E5014.15560301022009
> > @news-wc.giganews.com:
>
> > > Babysitting the nephews again today. :-)
>
> > > Earlier when Chas brought them over, he said they were ready for lunch.
> > > That was aboug 11 AM. The eldest (Dyson, 6 y/o) asked for scrambled eggs
> > > and cheese. QED.
> > > I also sliced up and nuked some smoked sausage.
>
> > First mistake. You *never* give them what they want/ask for.
>
> Why not? *I had eggs and cheese, and I can cook scrambled eggs. :-)
> They ate them up.
>
>
>
> > When I was babysitting/looking after the kids, I'd say "Are you lot
> > hungry?"........ and then I'd put food in front of them.
>
> > "What's that? You don't want to eat what's there? No worries.... move away
> > from the table so the rest of then can get fed."
>
> > "What's that? You're hungry? There's food on the table. If you don't want
> > to eat it, then it looks like you're going to stay hungry."
>
> Sorry, but I prefer not to treat the boys the way I HATED to be treated
> when I was their age.
>
> Kids have rights too.
>
> I still remember what it was like and it was bloody unfair.
> It sucked big time!
>
> My sister and brother in law have never forced these two to eat stuff
> they don't like and as a result, they eat almost everything! *That can't
> be said about a lot of kids.
>
> Lynn's kids are the same way as they were treated the same way. Lynn is
> my best friend and I sometimes babysit her kids too. *They will try
> anything I offer them as they know they won't be forced to eat it if
> they don't like it.
>
> They all love Sushi for instance. :-) *Not too many can claim that.
>
>
>
> > > I like babysitting.
>
> > I'm glad I don't have to do it anymore.
>
> See above. Sorry Peter, but we'll have to agree to disagree on that one!
> Cut kids a little slack and they can be a joy to have around. *I love
> them.
>
> And I've never even had any of my own...
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "If the enemy is in range, so are you."
> -Infantry Journal

You are a smart woman!

On Tue 03 Feb 2009 10:15:30a, blake murphy told us...

> On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:40:48 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Mon 02 Feb 2009 09:32:19p, sf told us...
>>
>>> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:16:20 -0600, Omelet >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article > ,
>>>> PeterL > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>They all love Sushi for instance. :-) Not too many can claim that.
>>>>>
>>> GS (who used to be a picky eater, first class) loves sushi... my DD
>>> says "It's all in the presentation", because his first sushi
>>> experiences (age 2) were at a "boat place" where he could reach out
>>> and grab what appealed to him.
>>
>> At age 2 I would probably have spat it out. At age 64 I know better
>> than to take a piece. :-)
>
> granted, really fresh fish might be a problem in arizona, but i can't
> help thinking you're making a mistake here, wayne.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Perhaps, Blake, but I'm not overly fond of fish in general. There are a
select few varieties that I like grilled or fried, and that's about it.

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In article
>,
merryb > wrote:

> > See above. Sorry Peter, but we'll have to agree to disagree on that one!
> > Cut kids a little slack and they can be a joy to have around. *I love
> > them.
> >
> > And I've never even had any of my own...
> > --
> > Peace! Om
> >
> > "If the enemy is in range, so are you."
> > -Infantry Journal
>
> You are a smart woman!

Thanks Merry. :-)
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

In article 7>,
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> On Tue 03 Feb 2009 10:15:30a, blake murphy told us...
>
> > On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:40:48 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon 02 Feb 2009 09:32:19p, sf told us...
> >>
> >>> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:16:20 -0600, Omelet >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>In article > ,
> >>>> PeterL > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>They all love Sushi for instance. :-) Not too many can claim that.
> >>>>>
> >>> GS (who used to be a picky eater, first class) loves sushi... my DD
> >>> says "It's all in the presentation", because his first sushi
> >>> experiences (age 2) were at a "boat place" where he could reach out
> >>> and grab what appealed to him.
> >>
> >> At age 2 I would probably have spat it out. At age 64 I know better
> >> than to take a piece. :-)
> >
> > granted, really fresh fish might be a problem in arizona, but i can't
> > help thinking you're making a mistake here, wayne.
> >
> > your pal,
> > blake
>
> Perhaps, Blake, but I'm not overly fond of fish in general. There are a
> select few varieties that I like grilled or fried, and that's about it.

They do make all veggie sushi. Sliced avocado with cooked carrots in the
rice. It's quite good!
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

On Feb 3, 2:11*pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
> *merryb > wrote:
> > > See above. Sorry Peter, but we'll have to agree to disagree on that one!
> > > Cut kids a little slack and they can be a joy to have around. *I love
> > > them.
>
> > > And I've never even had any of my own...
> > > --
> > > Peace! Om
>
> > > "If the enemy is in range, so are you."
> > > -Infantry Journal
>
> > You are a smart woman!
>
> Thanks Merry. :-)
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "If the enemy is in range, so are you."
> -Infantry Journal

I've learned to pick your fights- it's not worth my time to cook
something that won't be eaten, and then have to nag to get it
eaten......

Kathleen wrote:

> My mother was an indifferent cook at best but she wasn't generally
> abusive about food. Except for once. When I was 7 she made guacamole
> tostadas (for the very first time) for dinner on Halloween and refused
> to let my sister and I go out for trick or treating until we ate them. I
> stuck mine to the underside of the dinner table when she wasn't looking
> and came back and cleaned it off the next day.


My mother was a pretty good cook, except for fish. I don't remember
battles about food. If there was something we didn't like we were
expected to try it, but she didn't give us much of things we didn't
like. I remember detesting squash and turnip but not having to eat it.

The only firm stand I can remember is one Halloween where she would not
let my brother go out trick or treating unless he ate his peas. I
didn't understand that because I always liked peas. He refused to eat
them and he didn't get to go out that night. He is now 55 and still
won't eat peas.