In article >,
Omelet > wrote:

> In article >,
> "Zeppo" > wrote:
>
> > > Take looksy into coconut oil.
> > > --
> > I will. I've seen a few people mention it here. Isn't it tropical oil?
> > Worries about saturated fat?

Maybe that was last week? Maybe this week saturated fat is better than
mother's milk? Maybe next week transfats will turn out to be best? Am
I a little cynical? No. A lot!

> Evidently not. And surely no more so than butter!

http://www.nutristrategy.com/fatsoils.htm

coconut oil is 81% saturated fat
butter fat is 62% saturated fat

> A quick google turns up many cites for the health benefits of it:
>
> <http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=healt...oil&aq=0&oq=he
> alth+benefits+of+coc&fp=Rhq7p-mUk-o>

None of the listings on the first page grabbed at me. I didn't follow
up on any of them.

I did a Google search on "health benefits of dog shit", and got twice as
many hits. Obviously, I didn't follow up on any of those, either. Some
were irrelevant, some were *negative* health benefits.

> I've personally started using more of it than I did Olive oil, and even
> rarely cook in butter now. The flavor is freakin' _amazing_!

I know you mean the best with your advice, but I just feel too jacked
around at this point to make yet another 180 degree shift. I looked at
my HMO web site, and they are still recommending reduction in foods high
in saturated fat. Of course, some of that information is old (some is
*weeks* old. just kidding.).

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dan Abel > wrote in news:dabel-98D793.16450106022009@c-61-
68-245-199.per.connect.net.au:


>>
>> > > Take looksy into coconut oil.
>> > > --
>> > I will. I've seen a few people mention it here. Isn't it tropical
oil?
>> > Worries about saturated fat?
>
> Maybe that was last week? Maybe this week saturated fat is better than
> mother's milk? Maybe next week transfats will turn out to be best? Am
> I a little cynical? No. A lot!


:-)

I'm waiting for the latest release to say that Oxygen is carcinogenic!!




>
> I did a Google search on "health benefits of dog shit", and got twice as
> many hits. Obviously, I didn't follow up on any of those, either. Some
> were irrelevant, some were *negative* health benefits.


LOL!!!





--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

Tell me what you eat and I'll tell you who you are.

Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Zeppo" > wrote
>>
>> I'm going to keep sifting through the data.
>>
>> How's your cholesterol level? :-)
>>
>
> My already low cholesterol dropped 30 pts just from using Smart Balance.
> It's tasty, too.
>

I use that, too. I'm torn between that and real butter because I know I'm
going to have to go on a statin med but I'm trying to cut out any type of
fat where I can. Time for a recheck of my cholesterol. I haven't kept a
solid routine on the treadmill, but no one sticks to it right away I
suppose. I have done 3 nights this week 30 min routine burning 200 cals
each time. I wish I could do that every night.

In article
>,
Dan Abel > wrote:

> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > "Zeppo" > wrote:
> >
> > > > Take looksy into coconut oil.
> > > > --
> > > I will. I've seen a few people mention it here. Isn't it tropical oil?
> > > Worries about saturated fat?
>
> Maybe that was last week? Maybe this week saturated fat is better than
> mother's milk? Maybe next week transfats will turn out to be best? Am
> I a little cynical? No. A lot!
>
> > Evidently not. And surely no more so than butter!
>
> http://www.nutristrategy.com/fatsoils.htm
>
> coconut oil is 81% saturated fat
> butter fat is 62% saturated fat
>
> > A quick google turns up many cites for the health benefits of it:
> >
> > <http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=healt...oil&aq=0&oq=he
> > alth+benefits+of+coc&fp=Rhq7p-mUk-o>
>
> None of the listings on the first page grabbed at me. I didn't follow
> up on any of them.
>
> I did a Google search on "health benefits of dog shit", and got twice as
> many hits. Obviously, I didn't follow up on any of those, either. Some
> were irrelevant, some were *negative* health benefits.
>
> > I've personally started using more of it than I did Olive oil, and even
> > rarely cook in butter now. The flavor is freakin' _amazing_!
>
> I know you mean the best with your advice, but I just feel too jacked
> around at this point to make yet another 180 degree shift. I looked at
> my HMO web site, and they are still recommending reduction in foods high
> in saturated fat. Of course, some of that information is old (some is
> *weeks* old. just kidding.).
>
> --
> Dan Abel

Being born is dangerous to your health. ;-) We all die in the end...
I've quit worrying about a lot of that stuff.

Coconut has a higher smoke point than butter so it's easier to fry
steaks etc. in it and not smoke up the house.

I deep fry in peanut oil.

I quit being afraid of fat a LONG time ago after reading Atkins books.

Going low carb brought my triglycerides down from 600 to 70 and total
cholesterol down from 300 to my most recent at 205.

The fear of fats in general (imho) is over-rated.

Right now I'm more worried about function. After 9 months of pain after
a bad fall, I think I've found my savior.

http://airrosti.com/

A single treatment increased strength and range of motion. It's too
soon to say if it'll get rid of the damned pain. I only had my first
visit this morning. I'll post more reports later if it works out but
I'm suspecting it will... I researched it well before shelling out for
it.
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

In article >,
"Cheryl" > wrote:

> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Zeppo" > wrote
> >>
> >> I'm going to keep sifting through the data.
> >>
> >> How's your cholesterol level? :-)
> >>
> >
> > My already low cholesterol dropped 30 pts just from using Smart Balance.
> > It's tasty, too.
> >
>
> I use that, too. I'm torn between that and real butter because I know I'm
> going to have to go on a statin med but I'm trying to cut out any type of
> fat where I can. Time for a recheck of my cholesterol. I haven't kept a
> solid routine on the treadmill, but no one sticks to it right away I
> suppose. I have done 3 nights this week 30 min routine burning 200 cals
> each time. I wish I could do that every night.

Eating cholesterol does not raised your cholesterol.
I suggest you research more up to date information.
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

Omelet > wrote in
news

>
> Being born is dangerous to your health. ;-) We all die in the end...


From the very first day we're born, we're dying. Might as well enjoy the
ride while it lasts :-)


> I've quit worrying about a lot of that stuff.
>
> Coconut has a higher smoke point than butter so it's easier to fry
> steaks etc. in it and not smoke up the house.


http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/Colle...mokePoints.htm


According that that table, they have the same smoke point.

(What's "Good Eats"??)



>
> http://airrosti.com/
>
> A single treatment increased strength and range of motion.


Excellent!!



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

Tell me what you eat and I'll tell you who you are.

Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin

In article > ,
PeterL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in
> news >
>
> >
> > Being born is dangerous to your health. ;-) We all die in the end...
>
>
> From the very first day we're born, we're dying. Might as well enjoy the
> ride while it lasts :-)
>
>
> > I've quit worrying about a lot of that stuff.
> >
> > Coconut has a higher smoke point than butter so it's easier to fry
> > steaks etc. in it and not smoke up the house.
>
>
> http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/Colle...mokePoints.htm
>
>
> According that that table, they have the same smoke point.

Whatever. <g> My personal experience with it shows differently. I can
get a hotter pan with less smoke. <shrugs> Butter is more complex and
has things other than fat in it.

>
> (What's "Good Eats"??)

Huh?

>
>
>
> >
> > http://airrosti.com/
> >
> > A single treatment increased strength and range of motion.
>
>
> Excellent!!

Still sore tho'. I'm icing it as I type this per their recommendation.
Doc' gave me therapy guidelines and for once in my life, I'm going to
follow them. Dr. Perry has a seriously impressive resume' on the
Airrosti website so I pretty much kept my ears open and my mouth shut
this time so I could learn from him. He's brilliant.

Not that I wanted to talk much while exercising self-control over the
pain that was being inflicted. <g> Not unbearable but it still hurt.
The skin is sore to the touch under the kinesio tape.

Ice feels good! I've never iced injuries before and the dumb part is
that I knew better. Was just too lazy to do it hoping things would heal
on their own.

I'm getting too old for that attitude now it seems. <g> I actually had
to go out and buy an ice bag as I did not own one! Bought a bag of ice
too. I don't use ice cube trays. Buying ice is less hassle and it's
cheap.
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-BF323A.09170307022009
@news-wc.giganews.com:


>>
>>
>> http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/Colle...mokePoints.htm
>>
>>
>> According that that table, they have the same smoke point.
>
> Whatever. <g> My personal experience with it shows differently. I can
> get a hotter pan with less smoke. <shrugs> Butter is more complex and
> has things other than fat in it.
>
>>
>> (What's "Good Eats"??)
>
> Huh?


In the table.......... beside some of the items it has "Good Eats".
Brand name???




>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > http://airrosti.com/
>> >
>> > A single treatment increased strength and range of motion.
>>
>>
>> Excellent!!
>
> Still sore tho'.


No pain, no gain :-)


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

Tell me what you eat and I'll tell you who you are.

Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin

In article >,
PeterL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-BF323A.09170307022009
> @news-wc.giganews.com:
>
>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/Colle...mokePoints.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> According that that table, they have the same smoke point.
> >
> > Whatever. <g> My personal experience with it shows differently. I can
> > get a hotter pan with less smoke. <shrugs> Butter is more complex and
> > has things other than fat in it.
> >
> >>
> >> (What's "Good Eats"??)
> >
> > Huh?
>
>
> In the table.......... beside some of the items it has "Good Eats".
> Brand name???
>
Ok, I never pay much attention to brand names. I buy what is cheapest
and still tastes good. <g>
>
>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > http://airrosti.com/
> >> >
> >> > A single treatment increased strength and range of motion.
> >>
> >>
> >> Excellent!!
> >
> > Still sore tho'.
>
>
> No pain, no gain :-)

I know. ;-) Unlike the Chiro', he says there is nothing wrong with me
doing deadlifts when I go back to the free weights later this year when
I'm healed enough. So long as I do them with proper form which I always
did. The only place deadlifts made me sore was the upper back (traps)
and that was just plain DOMS from using those muscles. My best was 210
lbs. when I was 33. I'll start with just the #45 olympic bar at this
point.

I did a lot of power lifting in my early 30's. I'm now 46. I really do
want to get back into that sport. I loved it then and I know I'll love
it now. Strength feels good and comes in handy at times.

The true test of Airrosti will come when I actually start stressing that
muscle group again. Last I tried upping the leg press weight (the
beginning of January), it nearly crippled me. If this works, I should
be able to handle it again. I'd started at 195 lbs. and over 5 sets
raised it to 255. That did some damage. :-( I dropped off 45 lbs. from
the mix and it got better (less pain). <sigh>

You should see my arm veins... I may have lost some of the muscle mass
over the intervening years when I got lazy, but the vascularity from
power lifting never goes away.

You could probably start an IV blindfolded.

Perry seems to be more about function. He considers deadlifts to be a
"real life" type of move, not just a power lift. One you can actually
make use it in daily life.

OB food: Rest of the package of strip steaks and plan to steam a mess
of mushrooms with leeks, maybe some broccoli. Dad bought a bunch of
fresh veggies that need to be used! I bought the leeks this morning to
go with the mushrooms. I may slice the steak into it and make a simple
stir fry. I need the protein. <g>

There is also a package of chicken hindquarters thawed. I may drag out
the roaster and just roast the entire thing along with some carrots and
celery.
--
Peace! Om

"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
-Infantry Journal

On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:58:29 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

Instant mashed potatoes. Ick! But DH actually LIKES them especially
the gross 'bacon' flavoured ones, so I usually have some Idaho brand
in the cupboard for him. They're good for when we need a quick starch
to go with dinner, and I don't have to eat them! (I just have extra
veggies instead)

In article >,
PeterL > wrote:


> >> http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/Colle...mokePoints.htm
> >>
> >> According that that table, they have the same smoke point.
> >> (What's "Good Eats"??)
> >
> > Huh?
>
> In the table.......... beside some of the items it has "Good Eats".
> Brand name???

Good Eats is a cooking show. My wife and I enjoy it quite a bit, as
Alton Brown, the cook on the show, is into food science, and explains
not only what to do, but how it works:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/alton-brown/index.html

He has also written several books.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Om referred:

> http://airrosti.com/
>
> A single treatment increased strength and range of motion. It's too
> soon to say if it'll get rid of the damned pain. I only had my first
> visit this morning. I'll post more reports later if it works out but
> I'm suspecting it will... I researched it well before shelling out for
> it.

Geeze...In this thread about potatoes, I thought the link was some kind of
reference to rösti potatoes.
(http://www.epicurious.com/tools/food...ch?query=rosti)

Bob

In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> Om referred:
>
> > http://airrosti.com/
> >
> > A single treatment increased strength and range of motion. It's too
> > soon to say if it'll get rid of the damned pain. I only had my first
> > visit this morning. I'll post more reports later if it works out but
> > I'm suspecting it will... I researched it well before shelling out for
> > it.
>
> Geeze...In this thread about potatoes, I thought the link was some kind of
> reference to rösti potatoes.
> (http://www.epicurious.com/tools/food...ch?query=rosti)
>
> Bob

<lol> Interesting reference...

If I'm hurting, I often won't eat so it's more or less on topic. :-)
--
Peace! Om

"Criminals thrive on the indulgence of societies understanding."

-- From "Batman Begins"

Omelet wrote:

> Eating cholesterol does not raised your cholesterol.
> I suggest you research more up to date information.

Cite, please?

(From the National Institutes of Health's current website: "Diet.
Saturated fat and cholesterol in the food you eat make your blood
cholesterol level go up." --
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/publ...ntk.htm#levels )

Serene
--
42 Magazine, celebrating life with meaning. Inaugural issue March '09!
http://42magazine.com

"I am an agnostic only to the extent that I am agnostic about fairies at
the bottom of the garden." -- Richard Dawkins

On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:58:29 +0200, ChattyCathy
> shouted from the highest rooftop:

>http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
>Thanks go to Om for suggesting this survey.

I remember having them on a camping trip when I was a kid. I also
remember trying to eat the powdered eggs someone had thoughtfully
forced on us. I have avoided both ever since. Come to think of it, I
think everything was powdered on that canoe trip except the water.

BTW - I can say from experience that trying to make mashed potatoes in
a blender is not the way to go. Not only does the end product resemble
powdered potatoes or wallpaper paste, your kids will remind you of
your experiment at every family gathering for the rest of your life
.... and probably beyond.


--

una cerveza mas por favor ...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~

In article >,
Serene Vannoy > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > Eating cholesterol does not raised your cholesterol.
> > I suggest you research more up to date information.
>
> Cite, please?
>
> (From the National Institutes of Health's current website: "Diet.
> Saturated fat and cholesterol in the food you eat make your blood
> cholesterol level go up." --
> http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/publ...ntk.htm#levels )
>
> Serene

I don't need a cite.
I run my own blood levels monthly.

Eggs don't increase it.

Bread does.
--
Peace! Om

"Criminals thrive on the indulgence of societies understanding."

-- From "Batman Begins"

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Serene Vannoy > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>
>>> Eating cholesterol does not raised your cholesterol.
>>> I suggest you research more up to date information.
>> Cite, please?
>>
>> (From the National Institutes of Health's current website: "Diet.
>> Saturated fat and cholesterol in the food you eat make your blood
>> cholesterol level go up." --
>> http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/publ...ntk.htm#levels )
>>
>> Serene
>
> I don't need a cite.
> I run my own blood levels monthly.
>
> Eggs don't increase it.
>
> Bread does.

So Cheryl should resarch more up to date information by checking your
blood test results? That's just weird, hon, sorry.

Serene

--
42 Magazine, celebrating life with meaning. Inaugural issue March '09!
http://42magazine.com

"I am an agnostic only to the extent that I am agnostic about fairies at
the bottom of the garden." -- Richard Dawkins

In article >,
Serene Vannoy > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Serene Vannoy > wrote:
> >
> >> Omelet wrote:
> >>
> >>> Eating cholesterol does not raised your cholesterol.
> >>> I suggest you research more up to date information.
> >> Cite, please?
> >>
> >> (From the National Institutes of Health's current website: "Diet.
> >> Saturated fat and cholesterol in the food you eat make your blood
> >> cholesterol level go up." --
> >> http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/publ...ntk.htm#levels )
> >>
> >> Serene
> >
> > I don't need a cite.
> > I run my own blood levels monthly.
> >
> > Eggs don't increase it.
> >
> > Bread does.
>
> So Cheryl should resarch more up to date information by checking your
> blood test results? That's just weird, hon, sorry.
>
> Serene

To each their own misinformation. :-)
--
Peace! Om

"Criminals thrive on the indulgence of societies understanding."

-- From "Batman Begins"