Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Feb 12, 1:00 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>> Haven't found a single thread I've wanted to really read now for a
>> couple of days, I hurt so bad.
>>
>> I won't bore anyone with the details.
>>
>> What's y'alls favorite food when you hurt?
>
> Well, usually the only kind of pain I experience is dental pain, for
> which I take chocolate milk. Nothing like a pint of chocolate
> milk after a crown prep.


Not if you have a lactose intolerance.

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:45:31 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

>9 months ago (the end of last April), I fell off of a step I did not see
>in the dark. Fell HARD on my right leg. That leg has been injured in the
>past so looks like the cumulative injury has caught up with me. Last
>time (28 years ago), I got clipped by a large pickup truck when I was
>walking back to the student parking lot as a junior in college. Since
>then, I'd already had minor issues with my right leg...
>
>So, I've been unable to run or drive long distance, and have suffered
>from minor chronic pain for 9 months. The ortho' I finally went and saw
>6 weeks after the injury diagnosed it as nerve transmission from ongoing
>back issues. (Scoliosis and disk degeneration). He was wrong... but I'm
>still seeing a good Chiropractor for the back issues.
>
>I finally got a second opinion from a local Airrosti practitioner and he
>agreed with me. There was indeed a long standing strain. That leg was
>constantly mildly swollen and paler than my left leg. He said it was a
>Tibial Anterior strain that was not healing so started Airrosti
>treatment last Friday.
>
>I've had chronic pain in that leg, especially when trying to drive
>(commuting to work for the last 9 months has been a bitch) and I could
>not run. The leg would not support my weight under stress. I also had
>to lift it up with my hands just to put my foot on the platform of the
>leg press at the gym as it was also just plain weak.
>
>After just one treatment, that last bit changed. :-) The treatment
>hurts like hell, but it's working as advertised. I'm just glad
>insurance is covering 70% of it.
>
>I'm doing my therapy homework as prescribed and things are working a LOT
>better after only 2 treatments. I still hurt but hopefully after
>tomorrow, more of the pain will be alleviated.
>
>I'm only 46. I've got a lot of plans for retirement and being disabled
>is not one of them...

Sounds like you've really been through the mill, lady! I'm glad
things are improving for you.

I've never heard of Airrosti treatments. Do they involve leather in
any way?

Carol

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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>> Haven't found a single thread I've wanted to really read now for a
>>> couple of days, I hurt so bad.
>>>
>>> I won't bore anyone with the details.
>>>
>>> What's y'alls favorite food when you hurt?
>>> I'm just sticking with low carb staples since I need to eat.
>>> Ground beef, baby spinach and whey protein shakes.
>>>
>>> Still losing weight which is a good thing.
>> Ya know... I had a possible epiphany that may fill the LC
>> comfort-food bill--making the really crusty mac and cheese with
>> pressed tofu. I need to hunt down that recipe again.
>>
>> And we (I) want the details. What's going on, Om?
>
> Ok...
>
> 9 months ago (the end of last April), I fell off of a step I did not see
> in the dark. Fell HARD on my right leg. That leg has been injured in the
> past so looks like the cumulative injury has caught up with me. Last
> time (28 years ago), I got clipped by a large pickup truck when I was
> walking back to the student parking lot as a junior in college. Since
> then, I'd already had minor issues with my right leg...
>
> So, I've been unable to run or drive long distance, and have suffered
> from minor chronic pain for 9 months. The ortho' I finally went and saw
> 6 weeks after the injury diagnosed it as nerve transmission from ongoing
> back issues. (Scoliosis and disk degeneration). He was wrong... but I'm
> still seeing a good Chiropractor for the back issues.
>
> I finally got a second opinion from a local Airrosti practitioner and he
> agreed with me. There was indeed a long standing strain. That leg was
> constantly mildly swollen and paler than my left leg. He said it was a
> Tibial Anterior strain that was not healing so started Airrosti
> treatment last Friday.
>
> I've had chronic pain in that leg, especially when trying to drive
> (commuting to work for the last 9 months has been a bitch) and I could
> not run. The leg would not support my weight under stress. I also had
> to lift it up with my hands just to put my foot on the platform of the
> leg press at the gym as it was also just plain weak.
>
> After just one treatment, that last bit changed. :-) The treatment
> hurts like hell, but it's working as advertised. I'm just glad
> insurance is covering 70% of it.
>
> I'm doing my therapy homework as prescribed and things are working a LOT
> better after only 2 treatments. I still hurt but hopefully after
> tomorrow, more of the pain will be alleviated.
>
> I'm only 46. I've got a lot of plans for retirement and being disabled
> is not one of them...

Ack! I do hope that treatment continues to improve things.
Chronic pain is the pits.

--
Jean B.

In article >,
Kathleen > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > Haven't found a single thread I've wanted to really read now for a
> > couple of days, I hurt so bad.
> >
> > I won't bore anyone with the details.
> >
> > What's y'alls favorite food when you hurt?
> > I'm just sticking with low carb staples since I need to eat.
> > Ground beef, baby spinach and whey protein shakes.
> >
> > Still losing weight which is a good thing.
>
> Milk.
>
> Skim milk, ice cold in a frozen glass, and lots of it. Keeps you
> hydrated, has some protein to aid healing, protects the stomach so you
> can tolerate your meds.
>
> And cantelope.
>
> Stay hydrated. Really, really hydrated. Drink aggressively.
> Everything hurts 10 times worse when you're dry.

The Airrosti handout (and the Dr.) give the same advice. ;-)
Thankfully, I don't drink soft drinks or fruit juices so water is nearly
all I drink. I normally drink close to or over 1 gallon per day...
--
Peace! Om

"Criminals thrive on the indulgence of societies understanding."

-- From "Batman Begins"

In article >,
"SteveB" > wrote:

> cheeseburger

<lol> Not on my diet plan, but it's tempting!
--
Peace! Om

"Criminals thrive on the indulgence of societies understanding."

-- From "Batman Begins"

In article >,
Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:

> >I'm only 46. I've got a lot of plans for retirement and being disabled
> >is not one of them...
>
> Sounds like you've really been through the mill, lady! I'm glad
> things are improving for you.
>
> I've never heard of Airrosti treatments. Do they involve leather in
> any way?
>
> Carol

<lol> I've been tempted to ask the doc' if he's ever considered wearing
leather. ;-D
--
Peace! Om

"Criminals thrive on the indulgence of societies understanding."

-- From "Batman Begins"

In article >,
"Jean B." > wrote:

> > I'm only 46. I've got a lot of plans for retirement and being disabled
> > is not one of them...
>
> Ack! I do hope that treatment continues to improve things.
> Chronic pain is the pits.
>
> --
> Jean B.

It's looking good so far. I've got another appt. in the morning.
He might be going over some of the areas he's already treated again tho'
and the front of my shin is still a bit bruised, so I'm not looking
forward to it, but oh well. <g>

Thanks Jean.
--
Peace! Om

"Criminals thrive on the indulgence of societies understanding."

-- From "Batman Begins"

Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> Kathleen > wrote:
>
>
>>Omelet wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Haven't found a single thread I've wanted to really read now for a
>>>couple of days, I hurt so bad.
>>>
>>>I won't bore anyone with the details.
>>>
>>>What's y'alls favorite food when you hurt?
>>>I'm just sticking with low carb staples since I need to eat.
>>>Ground beef, baby spinach and whey protein shakes.
>>>
>>>Still losing weight which is a good thing.
>>
>>Milk.
>>
>>Skim milk, ice cold in a frozen glass, and lots of it. Keeps you
>>hydrated, has some protein to aid healing, protects the stomach so you
>>can tolerate your meds.
>>
>>And cantelope.
>>
>>Stay hydrated. Really, really hydrated. Drink aggressively.
>>Everything hurts 10 times worse when you're dry.
>
>
> The Airrosti handout (and the Dr.) give the same advice. ;-)
> Thankfully, I don't drink soft drinks or fruit juices so water is nearly
> all I drink. I normally drink close to or over 1 gallon per day...

Mint tea is nice, as is an infusion made by boiling water with stick
cinnamon, then cooling. An added benefit is that cinnamon is claimed to
have some benefit with regards to blood sugar issues. I just like it
because it tastes good. And the soggy cinnamon sticks are good to chomp
in lieu of gum or candy while you're working alone (you don't want to
smile at anyone with chewed-up cinnamon bark in your teeth).

Lemon wedges with your water are good. I squeeze the juice out into the
water then eat the wedge itself, peel and all. I blame my high school
track coach for that particular habit. He told us it was healthy, and,
in retrospect it probably was/is. Vitamins and fiber, and nibbling it
down kept your fingers out of the chip basket.

Orange wedges, peel and all, are good, limes are just okay and
grapefruit rind is flat-out nasty.

Eating lemon wedges, though, will always remind me of being yelled at by
a handsome man running backwards.

On Thu 12 Feb 2009 11:00:18a, Omelet told us...

> Haven't found a single thread I've wanted to really read now for a
> couple of days, I hurt so bad.
>
> I won't bore anyone with the details.
>
> What's y'alls favorite food when you hurt?
> I'm just sticking with low carb staples since I need to eat.
> Ground beef, baby spinach and whey protein shakes.
>
> Still losing weight which is a good thing.

I'm not a low-carber, so what I recommend probably won't be good choices
for you. Also, my choices would depend a lot on what's hurting.

Soft scrambled eggs and biscuits
Cream of tomato soup made with half-and-half
Beef, mushroom, and barley soup
Open-faced hot roast beef sandwich with mashed potatoes and gravy
Chicken and dumplings
Sloppy Joes
Spaghetti with meat sauce

Basically, all foods that represent "comfort foods" to you. Those would do
it for me.


--
Wayne Boatwright
e-mail to wayneboatwright at gmail dot com
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>>> I'm only 46. I've got a lot of plans for retirement and being disabled
>>> is not one of them...
>> Ack! I do hope that treatment continues to improve things.
>> Chronic pain is the pits.
>>
>> --
>> Jean B.
>
> It's looking good so far. I've got another appt. in the morning.
> He might be going over some of the areas he's already treated again tho'
> and the front of my shin is still a bit bruised, so I'm not looking
> forward to it, but oh well. <g>
>
> Thanks Jean.

I can see why you aren't looking forward to that! Maybe by the
time you read this, it will be behind you. <<<<<Om>>>>> avoiding
painful areas

--
Jean B.

On Feb 12, 8:06*pm, Dave Smith
> wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Feb 12, 1:00 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> >> Haven't found a single thread I've wanted to really read now for a
> >> couple of days, I hurt so bad. *
>
> >> I won't bore anyone with the details.
>
> >> What's y'alls favorite food when you hurt?
>
> > Well, usually the only kind of pain I experience is dental pain, for
> > which I take chocolate milk. *Nothing like a pint of chocolate
> > milk after a crown prep.
>
> Not if you have a lactose intolerance.

Well, I don't. I was asked to describe my favorite food when I hurt,
and I did.

Sheesh.

Cindy Hamilton

"SteveB" > wrote in message
...
> cheeseburger

and oh, i forgot, with Lortabs

In article >,
Omelet > wrote:

> In article >,
> Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:
>
> > >I'm only 46. I've got a lot of plans for retirement and being disabled
> > >is not one of them...
> >
> > Sounds like you've really been through the mill, lady! I'm glad
> > things are improving for you.
> >
> > I've never heard of Airrosti treatments. Do they involve leather in
> > any way?
> >
> > Carol
>
> <lol> I've been tempted to ask the doc' if he's ever considered wearing
> leather. ;-D

Ps, I passed this comment on to him this morning. He got a good laugh
out of it. :-) He said it was a good question... It's not uncommon to
hear yelling coming from his treatment room, but it's usually guys.
Women seem to handle the pain better.

The more he hurt me, the quieter I got. This morning really hurt as he
was working around my shin and ankle. Sensitive areas that already were
tender.
All he got out of me was a few ouches and grunts... but he feels that
one more treatment should resolve this injury and I agree.

Progress has been made as promised. I've not been able to run and have
had little to no strength in that leg for 9 months.

One measly week and three treatments and my leg will now support my
weight under force. I can run! I was almost afraid I'd never be able
to again. Now I just have to do specific PT exercises to re-strengthen
the muscle that has had little use for awhile now that it's functioning
properly again.

His jar of cream that he uses as a skin lubricant has a superman logo on
it that a couple of his patients gave him for his birthday. They call
him "thumbs of steel". :-)
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

In article >,
Kathleen > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > Kathleen > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Omelet wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Haven't found a single thread I've wanted to really read now for a
> >>>couple of days, I hurt so bad.
> >>>
> >>>I won't bore anyone with the details.
> >>>
> >>>What's y'alls favorite food when you hurt?
> >>>I'm just sticking with low carb staples since I need to eat.
> >>>Ground beef, baby spinach and whey protein shakes.
> >>>
> >>>Still losing weight which is a good thing.
> >>
> >>Milk.
> >>
> >>Skim milk, ice cold in a frozen glass, and lots of it. Keeps you
> >>hydrated, has some protein to aid healing, protects the stomach so you
> >>can tolerate your meds.
> >>
> >>And cantelope.
> >>
> >>Stay hydrated. Really, really hydrated. Drink aggressively.
> >>Everything hurts 10 times worse when you're dry.
> >
> >
> > The Airrosti handout (and the Dr.) give the same advice. ;-)
> > Thankfully, I don't drink soft drinks or fruit juices so water is nearly
> > all I drink. I normally drink close to or over 1 gallon per day...
>
> Mint tea is nice, as is an infusion made by boiling water with stick
> cinnamon, then cooling. An added benefit is that cinnamon is claimed to
> have some benefit with regards to blood sugar issues. I just like it
> because it tastes good. And the soggy cinnamon sticks are good to chomp
> in lieu of gum or candy while you're working alone (you don't want to
> smile at anyone with chewed-up cinnamon bark in your teeth).

<chuckles> I imagine not. ;-) I often make solar teas in the summer
using Celestial Seasonings in various flavors. It's quite pleasant,
especially the ones with cranberry flavoring in them.

>
> Lemon wedges with your water are good.

I always request that in restaurants... At home, we don't need it. I
actually LIKE water. We buy the purified stuff from the vending
machines at the store and store it in Glass gallon jugs, not plastic. It
tastes great!


> I squeeze the juice out into the
> water then eat the wedge itself, peel and all. I blame my high school
> track coach for that particular habit. He told us it was healthy, and,
> in retrospect it probably was/is. Vitamins and fiber, and nibbling it
> down kept your fingers out of the chip basket.
>
> Orange wedges, peel and all, are good, limes are just okay and
> grapefruit rind is flat-out nasty.
>
> Eating lemon wedges, though, will always remind me of being yelled at by
> a handsome man running backwards.

Oh? Sounds like a good story! <lol> You have a talent for that... You
should write a humor column! ;-D
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

In article 0>,
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> On Thu 12 Feb 2009 11:00:18a, Omelet told us...
>
> > Haven't found a single thread I've wanted to really read now for a
> > couple of days, I hurt so bad.
> >
> > I won't bore anyone with the details.
> >
> > What's y'alls favorite food when you hurt?
> > I'm just sticking with low carb staples since I need to eat.
> > Ground beef, baby spinach and whey protein shakes.
> >
> > Still losing weight which is a good thing.
>
> I'm not a low-carber, so what I recommend probably won't be good choices
> for you. Also, my choices would depend a lot on what's hurting.
>
> Soft scrambled eggs and biscuits
> Cream of tomato soup made with half-and-half
> Beef, mushroom, and barley soup
> Open-faced hot roast beef sandwich with mashed potatoes and gravy
> Chicken and dumplings
> Sloppy Joes
> Spaghetti with meat sauce
>
> Basically, all foods that represent "comfort foods" to you. Those would do
> it for me.

My comfort foods are also not low carb. <g>
Lunch today was grilled ground beef and a large handful of baby spinach
leaves again. :-)

And a small glass of Burgundy...
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

In article >,
"Jean B." > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "Jean B." > wrote:
> >
> >>> I'm only 46. I've got a lot of plans for retirement and being disabled
> >>> is not one of them...
> >> Ack! I do hope that treatment continues to improve things.
> >> Chronic pain is the pits.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jean B.
> >
> > It's looking good so far. I've got another appt. in the morning.
> > He might be going over some of the areas he's already treated again tho'
> > and the front of my shin is still a bit bruised, so I'm not looking
> > forward to it, but oh well. <g>
> >
> > Thanks Jean.
>
> I can see why you aren't looking forward to that! Maybe by the
> time you read this, it will be behind you. <<<<<Om>>>>> avoiding
> painful areas

It's done and it did indeed hurt more than the last one, but it's really
truly worth it! He only works on it for around 20 minutes or so. The
rest of the 1 hour appt. is teaching home PT and performing such.

He's a great teacher and a very compassionate person, but merciless
during the "massage" session which is a good thing...

He is a true healer and at least this stuff works as advertised!
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

In article
>,
Cindy Hamilton > wrote:

> On Feb 12, 8:06*pm, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Feb 12, 1:00 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> > >> Haven't found a single thread I've wanted to really read now for a
> > >> couple of days, I hurt so bad. *
> >
> > >> I won't bore anyone with the details.
> >
> > >> What's y'alls favorite food when you hurt?
> >
> > > Well, usually the only kind of pain I experience is dental pain, for
> > > which I take chocolate milk. *Nothing like a pint of chocolate
> > > milk after a crown prep.
> >
> > Not if you have a lactose intolerance.
>
> Well, I don't. I was asked to describe my favorite food when I hurt,
> and I did.
>
> Sheesh.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I appreciated it Cindy. :-)
Not everybody is lactose intolerant!

I'm not.

Frankly, I think having teeth worked on is even more painful than the
therapy I'm dealing with!
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

On Feb 13, 12:50*pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> *Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 12, 8:06*pm, Dave Smith
> > > wrote:
> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > On Feb 12, 1:00 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> > > >> Haven't found a single thread I've wanted to really read now for a
> > > >> couple of days, I hurt so bad. *
>
> > > >> I won't bore anyone with the details.
>
> > > >> What's y'alls favorite food when you hurt?
>
> > > > Well, usually the only kind of pain I experience is dental pain, for
> > > > which I take chocolate milk. *Nothing like a pint of chocolate
> > > > milk after a crown prep.
>
> > > Not if you have a lactose intolerance.
>
> > Well, I don't. *I was asked to describe my favorite food when I hurt,
> > and I did.
>
> > Sheesh.
>
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> I appreciated it Cindy. :-)
> Not everybody is lactose intolerant!
>
> I'm not.
>
> Frankly, I think having teeth worked on is even more painful than the
> therapy I'm dealing with!

Well, you (or at least I) can get used to it. Apparently, when
everybody else
was getting genes for good teeth, I was standing in the line for curly
hair.
I've got 7 crowns and two bridges. Four root canals (but one of those
was the same tooth twice). I brush, I floss, my gums are in great
shape,
but those teeth are like they're made of chalk. Sitting in the
dentist's
chair has actually gotten kind of relaxing.

The best thing is that it's over quickly, and I don't have to wonder
how long
it will take before the pain goes away.

Cindy

In article >,
"SteveB" > wrote:

> "SteveB" > wrote in message
> ...
> > cheeseburger
>
> and oh, i forgot, with Lortabs

<lol> I can imagine...
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

In article
>,
Cindy Hamilton > wrote:

> > Frankly, I think having teeth worked on is even more painful than the
> > therapy I'm dealing with!
>
> Well, you (or at least I) can get used to it. Apparently, when
> everybody else
> was getting genes for good teeth, I was standing in the line for curly
> hair.
> I've got 7 crowns and two bridges. Four root canals (but one of those
> was the same tooth twice). I brush, I floss, my gums are in great
> shape,
> but those teeth are like they're made of chalk. Sitting in the
> dentist's
> chair has actually gotten kind of relaxing.
>
> The best thing is that it's over quickly, and I don't have to wonder
> how long
> it will take before the pain goes away.
>
> Cindy

The pain from treatment goes away in an hour or two, or at least it has
the past two times. The first time, I had no pain from the treatment
when I left his office.

The pain I want to go away is the chronic pain as that's the general
idea. <g> Only a week of (3) treatments and it's improved drastically!

I just wish I'd gone for a second opinion sooner so I'd not have had to
suffer for 9 bloody months!

It's an MD ortho' surgeon that got the diagnosis wrong. He said the pain
was nerve transmission from the spinal issues.

The Airrosti practitioner is a Chiropractor trained in this as a
specialty. He got it right... Tibial Anterior Strain that was not
healing on it's own.

Do you take any mineral supplements that might help your teeth grow
stronger?
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I'm only 46. I've got a lot of plans for retirement and being disabled
>>>>> is not one of them...
>>>> Ack! I do hope that treatment continues to improve things.
>>>> Chronic pain is the pits.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jean B.
>>> It's looking good so far. I've got another appt. in the morning.
>>> He might be going over some of the areas he's already treated again tho'
>>> and the front of my shin is still a bit bruised, so I'm not looking
>>> forward to it, but oh well. <g>
>>>
>>> Thanks Jean.
>> I can see why you aren't looking forward to that! Maybe by the
>> time you read this, it will be behind you. <<<<<Om>>>>> avoiding
>> painful areas
>
> It's done and it did indeed hurt more than the last one, but it's really
> truly worth it! He only works on it for around 20 minutes or so. The
> rest of the 1 hour appt. is teaching home PT and performing such.
>
> He's a great teacher and a very compassionate person, but merciless
> during the "massage" session which is a good thing...
>
> He is a true healer and at least this stuff works as advertised!

I'm really glad this pain is at least leading to something good.
I hope you get long-standing benefit from this.

BTW, I found the recipe for the crunchy mac and cheese that I am
going to try with pressed tofu. If it is good, I'll post the, er,
mess here. (I need to tackle my chicken tonight though, since it
has been marinating since yesterday.)

--
Jean B.

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> Haven't found a single thread I've wanted to really read now for a
> couple of days, I hurt so bad.
>
> I won't bore anyone with the details.
>
> What's y'alls favorite food when you hurt?

hydrocodone shakes
Vicodin vittles
Codine crustini
ASA appetizers

:-)

Dimitri

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Kathleen > wrote:

>>Eating lemon wedges, though, will always remind me of being yelled at by
>>a handsome man running backwards.
>
>
> Oh? Sounds like a good story! <lol> You have a talent for that... You
> should write a humor column! ;-D

My school's women's track team was sort of an orphan, taken up by
whatever teacher needed the stipend, regardless of talent or experience.

The women's long distance squad, including your's truly, decided as a
group, "we work too hard for this lame-assed kindergarten coaching
bullshit" and attached ourselves to the men's team and trained with them
under their long distance coach. The women's track coach was glad to
see the back of us.

We warmed up with stretching and a two mile run. Workouts frequently
included a 7 mile cross-country run to the river. You could stop to
vomit but there was no complaining allowed. You could chant insults,
though, providing they were entertaining, and that you could repeat them
frequently and loudly enough for the rest of us to memorize and join in.

None of the women would whine where anyone else could hear us and at
district, regionals, invitationals and state we scandalized our
competition by sharing our school's men's tent (It was open on three
sides, FFS! Co-ed lawn chair sitting and mat lounging, OMFG!!!!)

The coach never asked us to do anything he couldn't do himself. After
five miles or so he could still run faster backwards, yelling at the top
of his lungs, than most of us could run forward. He also taught physics
and his mantra "Let the units show the way" still helps me figure out
how to perform calculations all these years later. All that and good
looking, too. Dayum.

In article >,
"Jean B." > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "Jean B." > wrote:
> >
> >> Omelet wrote:
> >>> In article >,
> >>> "Jean B." > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> I'm only 46. I've got a lot of plans for retirement and being disabled
> >>>>> is not one of them...
> >>>> Ack! I do hope that treatment continues to improve things.
> >>>> Chronic pain is the pits.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jean B.
> >>> It's looking good so far. I've got another appt. in the morning.
> >>> He might be going over some of the areas he's already treated again tho'
> >>> and the front of my shin is still a bit bruised, so I'm not looking
> >>> forward to it, but oh well. <g>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Jean.
> >> I can see why you aren't looking forward to that! Maybe by the
> >> time you read this, it will be behind you. <<<<<Om>>>>> avoiding
> >> painful areas
> >
> > It's done and it did indeed hurt more than the last one, but it's really
> > truly worth it! He only works on it for around 20 minutes or so. The
> > rest of the 1 hour appt. is teaching home PT and performing such.
> >
> > He's a great teacher and a very compassionate person, but merciless
> > during the "massage" session which is a good thing...
> >
> > He is a true healer and at least this stuff works as advertised!
>
> I'm really glad this pain is at least leading to something good.
> I hope you get long-standing benefit from this.

Getting my mobility back. :-) I wanted to eventually participate in
IDPA competition. Not being able to move would hurt my scores.

Plus, if I ever have to run for my life (or whatever), I'll now be able
to. I was really scared there for awhile that I was going to be
permanently semi-disabled. Dr. Perry is giving me my ability to really
move normally back.

And he cares about the outcome.

It's sucked not being able to drive even to Austin without having to
pull over now and then and walk out the pain. It's restricted what I
can do and where I can go.

>
> BTW, I found the recipe for the crunchy mac and cheese that I am
> going to try with pressed tofu. If it is good, I'll post the, er,
> mess here. (I need to tackle my chicken tonight though, since it
> has been marinating since yesterday.)

Marinated chicken is so good. I like to marinate it in Italian dressing
and then BBQ it.

I'd love to see the tofu recipe! :-)
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In article >,
"Dimitri" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > Haven't found a single thread I've wanted to really read now for a
> > couple of days, I hurt so bad.
> >
> > I won't bore anyone with the details.
> >
> > What's y'alls favorite food when you hurt?
>
> hydrocodone shakes
> Vicodin vittles
> Codine crustini
> ASA appetizers
>
> :-)
>
> Dimitri

<rofl>!!!

Better living thru chemistry?
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In article >,
Kathleen > wrote:

> > Oh? Sounds like a good story! <lol> You have a talent for that... You
> > should write a humor column! ;-D
>
> My school's women's track team was sort of an orphan, taken up by
> whatever teacher needed the stipend, regardless of talent or experience.
>
> The women's long distance squad, including your's truly, decided as a
> group, "we work too hard for this lame-assed kindergarten coaching
> bullshit" and attached ourselves to the men's team and trained with them
> under their long distance coach. The women's track coach was glad to
> see the back of us.
>
> We warmed up with stretching and a two mile run. Workouts frequently
> included a 7 mile cross-country run to the river. You could stop to
> vomit but there was no complaining allowed. You could chant insults,
> though, providing they were entertaining, and that you could repeat them
> frequently and loudly enough for the rest of us to memorize and join in.
>
> None of the women would whine where anyone else could hear us and at
> district, regionals, invitationals and state we scandalized our
> competition by sharing our school's men's tent (It was open on three
> sides, FFS! Co-ed lawn chair sitting and mat lounging, OMFG!!!!)
>
> The coach never asked us to do anything he couldn't do himself. After
> five miles or so he could still run faster backwards, yelling at the top
> of his lungs, than most of us could run forward. He also taught physics
> and his mantra "Let the units show the way" still helps me figure out
> how to perform calculations all these years later. All that and good
> looking, too. Dayum.

Good looking is always a bonus. <g>
Thanks for the great story!
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On Feb 13, 1:40*pm, Omelet > wrote:

> Do you take any mineral supplements that might help your teeth grow
> stronger?

I brush with fluoridated toothpaste and drink fluoridated water. I
get
plenty of calcium and other minerals. I've nearly given up cola.

I think it's just the way they are.

Cindy Hamilton

Omelet wrote:
> Getting my mobility back. :-) I wanted to eventually participate in
> IDPA competition. Not being able to move would hurt my scores.

I had to look that up. Yes, I can see that it might affect yoru
scores.
>
> Plus, if I ever have to run for my life (or whatever), I'll now be able
> to.

Eerm, I probably couldn't now--with no such excuse.

I was really scared there for awhile that I was going to be
> permanently semi-disabled. Dr. Perry is giving me my ability to really
> move normally back.

That is so wonderful!!!
>
> And he cares about the outcome.
>
> It's sucked not being able to drive even to Austin without having to
> pull over now and then and walk out the pain. It's restricted what I
> can do and where I can go.

How far is that drive? That would s--k.
>
>> [JB] BTW, I found the recipe for the crunchy mac and cheese that I am
>> going to try with pressed tofu. If it is good, I'll post the, er,
>> mess here. (I need to tackle my chicken tonight though, since it
>> has been marinating since yesterday.)
>
> Marinated chicken is so good. I like to marinate it in Italian dressing
> and then BBQ it.
>
> I'd love to see the tofu recipe! :-)

We'll see if it is the least bit meritorious.

The chicken recipe was one I really liked. For some strange
reason, it hasn't been as good in recent years. I can't remember
if there is some unwritten (and now forgotten) trick to it. If it
comes out well, I'll type that up too.

--
Jean B.

In article
>,
Cindy Hamilton > wrote:

> On Feb 13, 1:40*pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
> > Do you take any mineral supplements that might help your teeth grow
> > stronger?
>
> I brush with fluoridated toothpaste and drink fluoridated water. I
> get
> plenty of calcium and other minerals. I've nearly given up cola.
>
> I think it's just the way they are.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Seriously, try a balanced multi-mineral. I use "Now" brand "Full
spectrum minerals". Been taking them for years and I still have all of
my teeth, including the wisdom teeth.

I have two major fillings and two minor ones. That's it.

They are inexpensive and you take two per day.

Fluoride might be part of the problem. :-( We don't drink the local
water because it contains that poison.

I use an organic toothpaste that does not contain fluoride. It contains
tea tree oil.
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In article >,
"Jean B." > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > Getting my mobility back. :-) I wanted to eventually participate in
> > IDPA competition. Not being able to move would hurt my scores.
>
> I had to look that up. Yes, I can see that it might affect yoru
> scores.

Indeed. <g>

> >
> > Plus, if I ever have to run for my life (or whatever), I'll now be able
> > to.
>
> Eerm, I probably couldn't now--with no such excuse.

Why not?

>
> I was really scared there for awhile that I was going to be
> > permanently semi-disabled. Dr. Perry is giving me my ability to really
> > move normally back.
>
> That is so wonderful!!!

<hugs> Thanks for being happy for me, even in the face of your own
problems!

> >
> > And he cares about the outcome.
> >
> > It's sucked not being able to drive even to Austin without having to
> > pull over now and then and walk out the pain. It's restricted what I
> > can do and where I can go.
>
> How far is that drive? That would s--k.

Only 30 to 40 miles depending on where I was going.

> >
> >> [JB] BTW, I found the recipe for the crunchy mac and cheese that I am
> >> going to try with pressed tofu. If it is good, I'll post the, er,
> >> mess here. (I need to tackle my chicken tonight though, since it
> >> has been marinating since yesterday.)
> >
> > Marinated chicken is so good. I like to marinate it in Italian dressing
> > and then BBQ it.
> >
> > I'd love to see the tofu recipe! :-)
>
> We'll see if it is the least bit meritorious.
>
> The chicken recipe was one I really liked. For some strange
> reason, it hasn't been as good in recent years. I can't remember
> if there is some unwritten (and now forgotten) trick to it. If it
> comes out well, I'll type that up too.

Or you've simply lost your taste for it. That happens to me sometimes
too.

Thanks. :-)
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Kathleen wrote:
>


>
> The coach never asked us to do anything he couldn't do himself. After
> five miles or so he could still run faster backwards, yelling at the top
> of his lungs, than most of us could run forward. He also taught physics
> and his mantra "Let the units show the way" still helps me figure out
> how to perform calculations all these years later. All that and good
> looking, too.


Fantastic! Every physics teacher I've known was a sadistic nerd who
couldn't run forward, much less backward. But they all thought they
were good looking.

I knew a female chem teacher who swore physics wasn't a "real" science.
Her argument: How can you call it SCIENCE when exercises begin: "Assume
zero gravity...."?

;-)
gloria p

Gloria P wrote:

> Kathleen wrote:
>
>>
>
>
>>
>> The coach never asked us to do anything he couldn't do himself. After
>> five miles or so he could still run faster backwards, yelling at the
>> top of his lungs, than most of us could run forward. He also taught
>> physics and his mantra "Let the units show the way" still helps me
>> figure out how to perform calculations all these years later. All
>> that and good looking, too.
>
>
>
> Fantastic! Every physics teacher I've known was a sadistic nerd who
> couldn't run forward, much less backward. But they all thought they
> were good looking.
>
> I knew a female chem teacher who swore physics wasn't a "real" science.
> Her argument: How can you call it SCIENCE when exercises begin: "Assume
> zero gravity...."?

He openly admitted that we'd entered the world of pure fantasy any time
any problem included the phrase "ignore friction".

But he also taught us to approximate answers to mind boggling questions
like, "OK, if the people in this room were the only ones in the building
and the entire exterior were somehow sealed with concrete, how long
could we survive on the available oxygen and what resources could we
utilize to resolve our problem? Go!"

And then we were allowed to run to the maintenance office for blueprints
to calculate air volume and investigate the possible existence of piping
conduits and steam tunnels connected to the outside world, and to quiz
workers on the availability of things like oxy-acetyline torches and
jack hammers. Others ran to the bio lab for texts on oxygen
consumption, and to chem to find out if we had the makings for
explosives on hand or some way to generate additional oxygen.

And we literally did run. If you were confronted by an administrator or
security guard for running in the halls all you had to do was gasp out
"Harris's class" and they'd let you go.

His heros were the scientists who saved the crippled Apollo 13 with
kleenex boxes, plastic bags and duct tape and he taught us that no
matter how thoroughly ****ed you think you may be, to assess your
resources, do the math and work it out.

In article >,
Kathleen > wrote:

> His heros were the scientists who saved the crippled Apollo 13 with
> kleenex boxes, plastic bags and duct tape and he taught us that no
> matter how thoroughly ****ed you think you may be, to assess your
> resources, do the math and work it out.

Sounds like a seriously awesome dude. :-)
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Serene Vannoy > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>> Haven't found a single thread I've wanted to really read now for a
>>> couple of days, I hurt so bad.
>>>
>>> I won't bore anyone with the details.

Bore me. In email, if you want. Sorry you're hurting.

>>>
>>> What's y'alls favorite food when you hurt?
>> Tylenol with codeine. I'm about to take one, take a hot shower, and try
>> to go back to sleep.

>
> What's wrong babe???

The big C. They took out my thyroid on Tuesday. Some fun! :-)

> My regular doc' offered me a hydrocodone Rx but I turned it down.
> I'm scared of that stuff.

I'm allergic to hydrocodone (Vicodin), but I can tolerate codeine. I
took one, and it took the edge off. I doubt the other 29 pills in the
prescription will even get used before they expire.

ObFood: For two weeks before my radioactive-iodine treatment, I'll have
to go on a low-iodine diet (LID) so that the iodine can be sucked up by
my remaining thyroid tissue. I plan to post the hell out of this place
looking for recipes, and I'm sure some people will whine at me for
having a bunch of restrictions, but others will take it as the fun
challenge I'm choosing to see it as.

On the LID, one has to avoid all high-iodine foods, and keep iodine to a
bare minimum. No iodized salt (so no processed foods because you don't
know what kind of salt they're using, and no restaurant food for the
same reason). Nothing from the sea. No milk. No egg yolks. No soy. Stuff
like that. I'll post the whole list at some point, and folks can help me
brainstorm if they want.

I'm hoping to put a bunch of LID-friendly food in the freezer well in
advance of the treatment, because during the treatment, I'm likely to be
VERY low energy, and I'll be in isolation because I'll be radioactive.

I tell you, my life is all glamor, all the time.

Serene

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On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:18:25 -0800, Serene Vannoy
> wrote:

>Omelet wrote:
>
>> What's wrong babe???
>
>The big C. They took out my thyroid on Tuesday. Some fun! :-)
>
>> My regular doc' offered me a hydrocodone Rx but I turned it down.
>> I'm scared of that stuff.
>
>I'm allergic to hydrocodone (Vicodin), but I can tolerate codeine. I
>took one, and it took the edge off. I doubt the other 29 pills in the
>prescription will even get used before they expire.
>
>ObFood: For two weeks before my radioactive-iodine treatment, I'll have
>to go on a low-iodine diet (LID) so that the iodine can be sucked up by
>my remaining thyroid tissue. I plan to post the hell out of this place
>looking for recipes, and I'm sure some people will whine at me for
>having a bunch of restrictions, but others will take it as the fun
>challenge I'm choosing to see it as.

Anyone who whines about your requests for ideas can go bleep
themselves.

>On the LID, one has to avoid all high-iodine foods, and keep iodine to a
>bare minimum. No iodized salt (so no processed foods because you don't
>know what kind of salt they're using, and no restaurant food for the
>same reason). Nothing from the sea. No milk. No egg yolks. No soy. Stuff
>like that. I'll post the whole list at some point, and folks can help me
>brainstorm if they want.

More than happy to help on this end.

>I'm hoping to put a bunch of LID-friendly food in the freezer well in
>advance of the treatment, because during the treatment, I'm likely to be
>VERY low energy, and I'll be in isolation because I'll be radioactive.

That sounds horrible!!

>I tell you, my life is all glamor, all the time.

Yes, it certainly is! But hey, if you've got it, flaunt it!

Hugs,
Carol

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Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:18:25 -0800, Serene Vannoy
> > wrote:
>

>> ObFood: For two weeks before my radioactive-iodine treatment, I'll have
>> to go on a low-iodine diet (LID) so that the iodine can be sucked up by
>> my remaining thyroid tissue. I plan to post the hell out of this place
>> looking for recipes, and I'm sure some people will whine at me for
>> having a bunch of restrictions, but others will take it as the fun
>> challenge I'm choosing to see it as.
>
> Anyone who whines about your requests for ideas can go bleep
> themselves.

Thanks, sweetheart. :-)

>
>> On the LID, one has to avoid all high-iodine foods, and keep iodine to a
>> bare minimum. No iodized salt (so no processed foods because you don't
>> know what kind of salt they're using, and no restaurant food for the
>> same reason). Nothing from the sea. No milk. No egg yolks. No soy. Stuff
>> like that. I'll post the whole list at some point, and folks can help me
>> brainstorm if they want.
>
> More than happy to help on this end.

Cool, thanks. Maybe I'll try to make that post tonight.

>
>> I'm hoping to put a bunch of LID-friendly food in the freezer well in
>> advance of the treatment, because during the treatment, I'm likely to be
>> VERY low energy, and I'll be in isolation because I'll be radioactive.
>
> That sounds horrible!!

It's only for a few days, but yes, it will be annoying, to say the
least. And my poor family has to relocate during that time -- even the
guinea pig. They're not complaining, but I imagine it will be even worse
for them than for me.

>
>> I tell you, my life is all glamor, all the time.
>
> Yes, it certainly is! But hey, if you've got it, flaunt it!

*grin* *hugs*

Serene

Serene Vannoy > wrote:
>
> >> ObFood: For two weeks before my radioactive-iodine treatment,
>
> It's only for a few days, but yes, it will be annoying, to say the
> least. And my poor family has to relocate during that time -- even the
> guinea pig. They're not complaining, but I imagine it will be even worse
> for them than for me.

There must be more information there somewhere. There is something I
must be missing. The way you have put it above sounds nearly incredible
to me. You are getting that treatment at home? Your family has to
relocate?

In this context, isolation during and after radioactive-iodine treatment
is necessary in a large part because of the potential contamination. It
is your personal waste - bodily excretions, which will be radioactive
for a certain time - that have to be isolated, so that they do not get
into general circulation as long as they are still radioactive. That is
why such treatment, in Germany at least, is always done at special
Nuclear Medicine facilities with appropriate technical arrangements. It
is there that patients get isolated - but not from visitors (except for
the first day or so) - for a few days.

If this matter is handled differently in California (is this where you
are?) - I know it is so handled in Holland, in part - I'd personally
consider it as institutionalised malpractice as far as the general
population is concerned, even if the danger is usually not very great.

Get better soon!

Victor

"Serene Vannoy" ha scritto nel messaggio > On the LID, one has to avoid all
high-iodine foods, and keep iodine to a > bare minimum. No iodized salt (so
no processed foods because you don't
> know what kind of salt they're using, and no restaurant food for the >
> same reason). Nothing from the sea. No milk. No egg yolks. No soy.

You are reminding me of when I went home after kidney stones and looked up
on the NIH site what not to eat. Everything except fudge and cake.

If flour is OK there are several pastas made without eggs, I think Kosher
salt is not iodized and in the past I've made many egg things with only
whites, although I don't like that, really.

I wish you well, the other side is easier than you think.

Giusi wrote:
> "Serene Vannoy" ha scritto nel messaggio > On the LID, one has to avoid all
> high-iodine foods, and keep iodine to a > bare minimum. No iodized salt (so
> no processed foods because you don't
>> know what kind of salt they're using, and no restaurant food for the >
>> same reason). Nothing from the sea. No milk. No egg yolks. No soy.
>
> You are reminding me of when I went home after kidney stones and looked up
> on the NIH site what not to eat. Everything except fudge and cake.

Heh. Well, I have to starve my body of iodine so that the radioactive
iodine gets sucked up by any thyroid tissue that's left.

>
> If flour is OK there are several pastas made without eggs,

Yes, I can use unbleached flour, or flour I grind myself.

> I think Kosher
> salt is not iodized

True, and it's easy to find un-iodized salt where I live.

> and in the past I've made many egg things with only
> whites, although I don't like that, really.

Yeah, me either, and to tell the truth, I'm used to just leaving eggs
out, so I may not bother finding egg-white substitutes, but we'll see.

>
> I wish you well, the other side is easier than you think.

Thank you!

Serene

In article >,
Serene Vannoy > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Serene Vannoy > wrote:
> >
> >> Omelet wrote:
> >>> Haven't found a single thread I've wanted to really read now for a
> >>> couple of days, I hurt so bad.
> >>>
> >>> I won't bore anyone with the details.
>
> Bore me. In email, if you want. Sorry you're hurting.

I posted it. I see you are in worse shape. :-( I'm SO sorry!

>
> >>>
> >>> What's y'alls favorite food when you hurt?
> >> Tylenol with codeine. I'm about to take one, take a hot shower, and try
> >> to go back to sleep.
>
> >
> > What's wrong babe???
>
> The big C. They took out my thyroid on Tuesday. Some fun! :-)

Crapola is more like it. <hugs>

>
> > My regular doc' offered me a hydrocodone Rx but I turned it down.
> > I'm scared of that stuff.
>
> I'm allergic to hydrocodone (Vicodin), but I can tolerate codeine. I
> took one, and it took the edge off. I doubt the other 29 pills in the
> prescription will even get used before they expire.
>
> ObFood: For two weeks before my radioactive-iodine treatment, I'll have
> to go on a low-iodine diet (LID) so that the iodine can be sucked up by
> my remaining thyroid tissue. I plan to post the hell out of this place
> looking for recipes, and I'm sure some people will whine at me for
> having a bunch of restrictions, but others will take it as the fun
> challenge I'm choosing to see it as.

I sure will. <g> There should be plenty of food that is low in Iodine!

>
> On the LID, one has to avoid all high-iodine foods, and keep iodine to a
> bare minimum. No iodized salt (so no processed foods because you don't
> know what kind of salt they're using, and no restaurant food for the
> same reason). Nothing from the sea. No milk. No egg yolks. No soy. Stuff
> like that. I'll post the whole list at some point, and folks can help me
> brainstorm if they want.

Could be interesting, and probably less restrictive than you think.

>
> I'm hoping to put a bunch of LID-friendly food in the freezer well in
> advance of the treatment, because during the treatment, I'm likely to be
> VERY low energy, and I'll be in isolation because I'll be radioactive.
>
> I tell you, my life is all glamor, all the time.
>
> Serene

I just hope you weather it ok dear. <morehugs!>

My issues are minor. I'm aware there are worse things. I AM getting
better. I ran a lap on the track this morning. My stride is not what it
was before but that should be temporary. I just have to be good about
my home PT. At least I can run again, and that after only 1 week of 3
treatments. Airrosti works.

I hope your recovery goes smoothly as well!
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