On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:20:35 -0700, SteveB wrote:

> "Gloria P" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> Actually I don't know whether to call it a scam or not. The past few
>> months our local stations have carried an ad for a company that promises
>> the highest returns for your old gold jewelry.
>>
>> One of the consumer advocates had some gold pieces appraised by weight for
>> the gold value by two separate jewelers. The average was pretty close,
>> around $800. He sent the gold to the TV ad place and was offered $120.
>> When he complained, the offer was raised to $250, obviously much less than
>> local reputable jewelers quoted.
>>
>> As the economy worsens, be more and more careful with ALL your valuables.
>>
>> gloria p
>
> If there is anyone out there who is stupid enough to MAIL their jewelry to
> someone and then take what they will pay, I have a slightly used bridge for
> sale.
>
> Steve

do you have free shipping?

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:28:32 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:43:21 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> "notbob" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 2009-02-13, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's an ad on Craig's list for home parties that people are invited
>>>> to go and sell their gold. It's amazing some of the things people
>>>> dream up.
>>>
>>> Those home parties are a whole different ballgame. In that approach, the
>>> person putting on a party purchases a kit that allows him to asses the
>>> actual gold content of the gold jewelry and make valid estimates of the
>>> value to party participants. He then collects the gold, and sends it in.
>>> The people at the party know who they are giving their gold to and he has
>>> the means to provide a valid worth. Then, it's on the guy giving the
>>> party
>>> to distribute the $$$. These are usually done amongst friends.
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>> Are they really amongst "friends"? I don't appreciate being invited to a
>> "party" only to find out you've invited me over to try to sell me something.
>> There used to be Tupperware parties, those kitchen gadget parties,
>> Longarberger basket parties. No thanks. Want to get to together and share
>> a few laughs? That's a different story. Don't invite me over to buy stuff.
>>
>> Jill
>
>actually, jill, it's a party to invite you to *sell* stuff.

yabutt....she's probably been through the jewelry boxes and sold it
all already.

Lou

Lou Decruss wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:28:32 GMT, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:43:21 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
> >
> >> "notbob" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On 2009-02-13, Lou Decruss > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> There's an ad on Craig's list for home parties that people are
invited
> >>>> to go and sell their gold. It's amazing some of the things people
> >>>> dream up.
> >>>
> >>> Those home parties are a whole different ballgame. In that approach,
the
> >>> person putting on a party purchases a kit that allows him to asses the
> >>> actual gold content of the gold jewelry and make valid estimates of
the
> >>> value to party participants. He then collects the gold, and sends it
in.
> >>> The people at the party know who they are giving their gold to and he
has
> >>> the means to provide a valid worth. Then, it's on the guy giving the
> >>> party
> >>> to distribute the $$$. These are usually done amongst friends.
> >>>
> >>> nb
> >>
> >> Are they really amongst "friends"? I don't appreciate being invited to
a
> >> "party" only to find out you've invited me over to try to sell me
something.
> >> There used to be Tupperware parties, those kitchen gadget parties,
> >> Longarberger basket parties. No thanks. Want to get to together and
share
> >> a few laughs? That's a different story. Don't invite me over to buy
stuff.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> >actually, jill, it's a party to invite you to *sell* stuff.
>
> yabutt....she's probably been through the jewelry boxes and sold it
> all already.


Just think of what she'd do at one of those sex toy parties...!!!


--
Best
Greg

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:31:59 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:

>
>Lou Decruss wrote:

>> >
>> >actually, jill, it's a party to invite you to *sell* stuff.
>>
>> yabutt....she's probably been through the jewelry boxes and sold it
>> all already.
>
>
>Just think of what she'd do at one of those sex toy parties...!!!

Ugggg... not pleasant on the minds eye.

Lou

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:08:39 -0700, Gloria P >
fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:

>People get roped into it with the promise of making easy money without
>any effort or investment. Many of the organizations are pyramid selling
>schemes and once you recruit all your friends into the business so you
>can earn a percentage of their sales of overpriced junk, there's no one
>left to sell to. Doh!

I'm hearing a commercial on the radio these days that I've never heard
befo an offer to give you a lump sum if you sign over your
"structured settlement" from a lawsuit. The DH (a bankruptcy attorney)
says that these outfits have been around for a long time, but I don't
recall hearing/seeing advertisements for them. The ads themselves are
annoyingly creepy. One guy thanks God for the lump sum for his
structured settlement, which allowed him to keep his (variable
mortgage financed) house, another to pay off his credit cards and
another just wanted to pay his bills. Well, once the lump sums are
gone, they're still stuck with variable mortgages and irresponsible
spending habits. It also shines a bright light on how out of control
litigation is in this country (US) if the bottom feeders can make a
living off the peripheries of litigation - and this from a litigation
paralegal!

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:31:59 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>>> >
>>> >actually, jill, it's a party to invite you to *sell* stuff.
>>>
>>> yabutt....she's probably been through the jewelry boxes and sold it
>>> all already.
>>
>>
>>Just think of what she'd do at one of those sex toy parties...!!!
>
> Ugggg... not pleasant on the minds eye.
>
> Lou

Reserving Judgment on that eye

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>
> "SteveB" > wrote in message
>> If there is anyone out there who is stupid enough to MAIL their jewelry
>> to someone and then take what they will pay, I have a slightly used
>> bridge for sale.
>
> A lot of legitimate jewelry is mailed. Registered mail is a very safe way
> to send gold and diamonds.

Ed, read this part: and then take what they will pay

HTH

Steve

"SteveB" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "SteveB" > wrote in message
>>> If there is anyone out there who is stupid enough to MAIL their jewelry
>>> to someone and then take what they will pay, I have a slightly used
>>> bridge for sale.
>>
>> A lot of legitimate jewelry is mailed. Registered mail is a very safe
>> way to send gold and diamonds.
>
> Ed, read this part: and then take what they will pay
>
> HTH
>
> Steve
>

I said it is a safe way to send "legitimate" jewelry, but not who to send it
to. Many jewelry stores send diamonds by mail. Wholesalers send stuff to
retailers, etc. Registered Mail is a safe way to send thousands of dollars
in a small package.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> I keep seeing ads saying Wal*Mart will cash your payroll check or tax
>> refund
>> check *only* $3 per check! I don't think Wal*Mart should be acting like
>> a
>> bank.
>
> Every grocery store I've been in cashes checks. Why not Walmart?
> And check this out - we even have about 60 places in town that do
> only one thing: cash checks.
>
> -sw


IMHO the "check cashing" businesses are a rip-off. The WalMart ads on TV
state they charge $3 to cash payroll, "government" and tax-rebate checks.
They don't specify a lower amount based on the amount of the check. There
probably is a sliding scale in there somewhere. (I've had a checking and
savings account since the 1970's; for me it's a moot point.) I just hate to
see people being ripped off because they think they're getting a good deal.

If you're getting a payroll check, how about go to a bank and ask them, "if
I deposit this check could I open a bank account?" Chances are they aren't
going to argue with you. Ask a few more questions and you might even find
out you don't have to maintain a minimum balance or get charged a bunch of
fees. [Common sense indicates you can't go writing checks or making ATM
withdrawals without having the funds... which may be why they don't have
bank accounts to begin with.]

The Cash for Gold thing Gloria brought up: I sure wouldn't mail my jewelry
to a stranger based on a television commercial and expect them to give me a
fair price for it.

Jill

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:28:32 GMT, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:43:21 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> "notbob" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2009-02-13, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There's an ad on Craig's list for home parties that people are invited
>>>>> to go and sell their gold. It's amazing some of the things people
>>>>> dream up.
>>>>
>>>> Those home parties are a whole different ballgame. In that approach,
>>>> the
>>>> person putting on a party purchases a kit that allows him to asses the
>>>> actual gold content of the gold jewelry and make valid estimates of the
>>>> value to party participants. He then collects the gold, and sends it
>>>> in.
>>>> The people at the party know who they are giving their gold to and he
>>>> has
>>>> the means to provide a valid worth. Then, it's on the guy giving the
>>>> party
>>>> to distribute the $$$. These are usually done amongst friends.
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>
>>> Are they really amongst "friends"? I don't appreciate being invited to
>>> a
>>> "party" only to find out you've invited me over to try to sell me
>>> something.
>>> There used to be Tupperware parties, those kitchen gadget parties,
>>> Longarberger basket parties. No thanks. Want to get to together and
>>> share
>>> a few laughs? That's a different story. Don't invite me over to buy
>>> stuff.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>actually, jill, it's a party to invite you to *sell* stuff.
>
> yabutt....she's probably been through the jewelry boxes and sold it
> all already.
>
> Lou


Why don't you stop being such an ass! I would never sell my mother's
jewelry.

"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
m...
>
> Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:28:32 GMT, blake murphy
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:43:21 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>> >
>> >> "notbob" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>> On 2009-02-13, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> There's an ad on Craig's list for home parties that people are
> invited
>> >>>> to go and sell their gold. It's amazing some of the things people
>> >>>> dream up.
>> >>>
>> >>> Those home parties are a whole different ballgame. In that approach,
> the
>> >>> person putting on a party purchases a kit that allows him to asses
>> >>> the
>> >>> actual gold content of the gold jewelry and make valid estimates of
> the
>> >>> value to party participants. He then collects the gold, and sends it
> in.
>> >>> The people at the party know who they are giving their gold to and he
> has
>> >>> the means to provide a valid worth. Then, it's on the guy giving the
>> >>> party
>> >>> to distribute the $$$. These are usually done amongst friends.
>> >>>
>> >>> nb
>> >>
>> >> Are they really amongst "friends"? I don't appreciate being invited
>> >> to
> a
>> >> "party" only to find out you've invited me over to try to sell me
> something.
>> >> There used to be Tupperware parties, those kitchen gadget parties,
>> >> Longarberger basket parties. No thanks. Want to get to together and
> share
>> >> a few laughs? That's a different story. Don't invite me over to buy
> stuff.
>> >>
>> >> Jill
>> >
>> >actually, jill, it's a party to invite you to *sell* stuff.
>>
>> yabutt....she's probably been through the jewelry boxes and sold it
>> all already.
>
>
> Just think of what she'd do at one of those sex toy parties...!!!
>
>
> --
> Best
> Greg
>
>

No, that would be YOU, Greg, demonstrating the proper use of a dildo up your
ass.

Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:08:39 -0700, Gloria P >
> fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:
>
>> People get roped into it with the promise of making easy money without
>> any effort or investment. Many of the organizations are pyramid selling
>> schemes and once you recruit all your friends into the business so you
>> can earn a percentage of their sales of overpriced junk, there's no one
>> left to sell to. Doh!
>
> I'm hearing a commercial on the radio these days that I've never heard
> befo an offer to give you a lump sum if you sign over your
> "structured settlement" from a lawsuit. The DH (a bankruptcy attorney)
> says that these outfits have been around for a long time, but I don't
> recall hearing/seeing advertisements for them. The ads themselves are
> annoyingly creepy. One guy thanks God for the lump sum for his
> structured settlement, which allowed him to keep his (variable
> mortgage financed) house, another to pay off his credit cards and
> another just wanted to pay his bills. Well, once the lump sums are
> gone, they're still stuck with variable mortgages and irresponsible
> spending habits. It also shines a bright light on how out of control
> litigation is in this country (US) if the bottom feeders can make a
> living off the peripheries of litigation - and this from a litigation
> paralegal!
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>

Thats the unfortunate part of us vs megacorp. They live on and you don't
and they can really profit from that such as in the scheme you described.
And the best part is even if megacorps are corrupt, greedy and game the
system to make even more money fall into their laps they can't loose
because the red and blue teams will pick our pockets to bail them out
because of our capitalistic profit/ socialist loss system.

If I had to make the choice I would put every rotten politician
and their banking/wall st buddies on a leaky ship because of what they
did to bring the economy to its knees to insure massive wealth was
transferred to a few.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> If you're getting a payroll check, how about go to a bank and ask them,
> "if I deposit this check could I open a bank account?" Chances are they
> aren't going to argue with you. Ask a few more questions and you might
> even find out you don't have to maintain a minimum balance or get charged
> a bunch of fees. [Common sense indicates you can't go writing checks or
> making ATM withdrawals without having the funds... which may be why they
> don't have bank accounts to begin with.]

You evidently have never worked with the uneducated masses. To do what you
want, the first thing you have to be able to do is speak a common language
with the banker. They may exist, but I've never seen a bank in our are
advertise it is bi-lingual. They'd have to speak not only Spanish, but
Chinese, Vietnamese, Laotian and a few others. They would also have to be
able to teach those people how to manage a checking account, fill in deposit
slips and every other facet of maintaining an account.

Oh, they would also have to have an address. Many of them move frequently
and have no clue about mail forwarding either.

While you enjoy the air conditioned office, thousands of people are in
factories working hard to make the products you buy. Some are uneducated
and do not have the ability to make the decision needed to go to a bank.
Many of the temporary labor services pay the help in cash because the
workers could not handle a check properly and would go elsewhere for cash.

Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> They may exist, but I've never seen a bank in our are
> advertise it is bi-lingual.

We have a chain of banks that only speak Spanish. Laredo National
Bank. A few years ago a Mexican bank bought them out and they cater
strictly to wetbacks.

And there are plenty other reason, Jill, people cannot obtain or use
traditional bank accounts (and that's probably going to get more
prevalent in the near future).

-sw

Sqwertz wrote:

> We have a chain of banks that only speak Spanish. Laredo National
> Bank. A few years ago a Mexican bank bought them out and they cater
> strictly to wetbacks.

Wetbacks? Sounds pretty much like a bigoted/racist/derogatory term to
me. Is that you Sheldon?

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

ChattyCathy > wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> We have a chain of banks that only speak Spanish. Laredo National
>> Bank. A few years ago a Mexican bank bought them out and they cater
>> strictly to wetbacks.
>
> Wetbacks? Sounds pretty much like a bigoted/racist/derogatory term to
> me. Is that you Sheldon?

Does that make you less bigoted, buy pointing it out and trying to
make a make a scene?

Hypocrite.

Half my friends are beaners - do they care?. No.

-sw

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 01:02:29 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" >
wrote:

>
>"notbob" > wrote in message
>news
>> On 2009-02-13, jmcquown > wrote:
>>
>>> Are they really amongst "friends"? I don't appreciate being invited to a
>>> "party" only to find out you've invited me over to try to sell me
>>> something.
>>> There used to be Tupperware parties, those kitchen gadget parties,
>>> Longarberger basket parties. No thanks. Want to get to together and
>>> share
>>> a few laughs? That's a different story. Don't invite me over to buy
>>> stuff.
>>
>> Some people want Tupperware. What then? Mug hosts on the street?
>>
>> "Your lettuce crisper or your life!"
>>
>> nb
>
>Depends on the situation. If you invite people for a Tupperware (or
>whatever) party, you know going in what the deal is. We were invited to a
>house warming party. Took a gift, of course, and it turned into a Pampered
>Chef party. We left.
>
I'm curious.... Did you have a problem with the people after that?
I'd have a problem trusting anyone who pulled that on me.

Many years ago I was invited to an art party and it was stressed my
company was more important than me buying something. It was in a
small home and dinner for 25 people wasn't possible so they did a cake
and coffee thing at 7:30? on a week night. It's been too long to
remember what else they served but I do remember is was a very classy
party. Viewing the paintings was more entertainment than a pressured
sales pitch. I was recently divorced and had just moved into and
furnished a Chicago high-rise apartment with brand new furniture. All
of which I paid for in cash so I didn't have much savings left. But
there was a painting I fell in love with that was perfect for how I
had decorated. The host saw me talking to the demo lady and pulled me
aside and said "you don't need to do this." I bought it anyway and
had them frame if for less than I could have had it done on my own.
The framing options were just as good or better than a framing store.

Fast forward many years through a few moves, changes in taste and
decorating themes the only place it worked was in a hall. I helped a
friend move who had 3 kids and a deadbeat X who she finally got tossed
in jail for not paying child support. (drank himself to death after
he got out) I gave her the painting because it worked perfectly in
her new digs. She got choked up and teary eyed. It was the only real
art she'd ever had.

Anyway I'm being long winded but my point is the home sales parties
don't have to be a bad experience if the hosts have some class. If I
were put in the situation you were with the housewarming turning into
something else there would be no contact with them after that day.

Lou

On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:37:20 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message

>>>actually, jill, it's a party to invite you to *sell* stuff.
>>
>> yabutt....she's probably been through the jewelry boxes and sold it
>> all already.
>>
>> Lou
>
>
>Why don't you stop being such an ass!

As long as you asked so nicely.

>I would never sell my mother's jewelry.

I would hope not.

Lou

Sqwertz wrote:
> ChattyCathy > wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> We have a chain of banks that only speak Spanish. Laredo National
>>> Bank. A few years ago a Mexican bank bought them out and they cater
>>> strictly to wetbacks.
>> Wetbacks? Sounds pretty much like a bigoted/racist/derogatory term to
>> me. Is that you Sheldon?
>
> Does that make you less bigoted, buy pointing it out and trying to
> make a make a scene?
>
> Hypocrite.
>



No. I agree with Kathy. You said something racist
and she called you on it.

"Wetback/beaner" isn't any less offensive than the "N" word.
Is that what you call your black friends?

gloria p

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:53:08 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 01:02:29 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> "notbob" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 2009-02-13, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are they really amongst "friends"? I don't appreciate being invited to a
>>>> "party" only to find out you've invited me over to try to sell me
>>>> something.
>>>> There used to be Tupperware parties, those kitchen gadget parties,
>>>> Longarberger basket parties. No thanks. Want to get to together and
>>>> share
>>>> a few laughs? That's a different story. Don't invite me over to buy
>>>> stuff.
>>>
>>> Some people want Tupperware. What then? Mug hosts on the street?
>>>
>>> "Your lettuce crisper or your life!"
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>> Depends on the situation. If you invite people for a Tupperware (or
>> whatever) party, you know going in what the deal is. We were invited to a
>> house warming party. Took a gift, of course, and it turned into a Pampered
>> Chef party. We left.
>
>those are the circumstances under which you get drunk and start a brawl.

Some of the parties don't need a negative reason to get drunk. Louise
threw a jewelry party a few years ago. I made all the food and had a
few weeks to plan. I did all the serving and took all the sexual
harassment from 20 plus women. All but one of which were over 50
years old. They partied until almost 4 AM. Sparing details several
of them had to return the next day for their cars. South side Chicago
chicks are pretty wild. They still talk about the party and the food.
A few signed up to have their own parties but they didn't get me to
cater them.

Lou

Gloria P > wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>> ChattyCathy > wrote:
>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>>> We have a chain of banks that only speak Spanish. Laredo National
>>>> Bank. A few years ago a Mexican bank bought them out and they cater
>>>> strictly to wetbacks.
>>> Wetbacks? Sounds pretty much like a bigoted/racist/derogatory term to
>>> me. Is that you Sheldon?
>>
>> Does that make you less bigoted, buy pointing it out and trying to
>> make a make a scene?
>>
>> Hypocrite.
>>
>
> No. I agree with Kathy. You said something racist
> and she called you on it.

Gee - you don't think I, and everybody else who read it, already
knew that ??!?!?!? It was unnecessary, and pointing is just being a
hypocrite.

> "Wetback/beaner" isn't any less offensive than the "N" word.
> Is that what you call your black friends?

Nah. I call them, toads.

-sw

Sqwertz wrote:

> ChattyCathy > wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> We have a chain of banks that only speak Spanish. Laredo National
>>> Bank. A few years ago a Mexican bank bought them out and they cater
>>> strictly to wetbacks.
>>
>> Wetbacks? Sounds pretty much like a bigoted/racist/derogatory term to
>> me. Is that you Sheldon?
>
> Does that make you less bigoted, buy pointing it out

Sorry. Don't follow your logic here... How does pointing out that you
were being a bigot make me one too?

> and trying to
> make a make a scene?

<snork> Go on, admit it... You're enjoying this, or you'd have ignored
my remark and not responded to it.

>
> Hypocrite.

Hmmmm. I beg to differ. If I'd said you weren't being a bigot, *that*
would have made me a hypocrite.

>
> Half my friends are beaners - do they care?. No.

I'll take your word for it.

But anyway... IMNSHO, you must have been really bored when you posted
that remark and were spoiling for another (virtual) bout of
fisticuffs - or maybe you just had one too many Bloody Marys with your
brunch?
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:46:28 -0600, Lou Decruss wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:53:08 GMT, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 01:02:29 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> "notbob" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> On 2009-02-13, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are they really amongst "friends"? I don't appreciate being invited to a
>>>>> "party" only to find out you've invited me over to try to sell me
>>>>> something.
>>>>> There used to be Tupperware parties, those kitchen gadget parties,
>>>>> Longarberger basket parties. No thanks. Want to get to together and
>>>>> share
>>>>> a few laughs? That's a different story. Don't invite me over to buy
>>>>> stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Some people want Tupperware. What then? Mug hosts on the street?
>>>>
>>>> "Your lettuce crisper or your life!"
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>
>>> Depends on the situation. If you invite people for a Tupperware (or
>>> whatever) party, you know going in what the deal is. We were invited to a
>>> house warming party. Took a gift, of course, and it turned into a Pampered
>>> Chef party. We left.
>>
>>those are the circumstances under which you get drunk and start a brawl.
>
> Some of the parties don't need a negative reason to get drunk. Louise
> threw a jewelry party a few years ago. I made all the food and had a
> few weeks to plan. I did all the serving and took all the sexual
> harassment from 20 plus women. All but one of which were over 50
> years old. They partied until almost 4 AM. Sparing details several
> of them had to return the next day for their cars. South side Chicago
> chicks are pretty wild. They still talk about the party and the food.
> A few signed up to have their own parties but they didn't get me to
> cater them.
>
> Lou

sounds like a good time.

your pal,
blake