Jean B. said...

> Omelet wrote:
>> Iirc, Blinky died of pneumonia. :-( Guys tend to not get care more than
>> women do.
>>
>> I nearly lost dad to Appendicitis. I'm just lucky I was home when he
>> went into septic shock.
>
> Yeah, I wasn't speaking of the specific cause of death (or near
> death). Rather the failure to get medical attention.
>
> Yes, it is VERY lucky you were there.


Om...

Sorry to butt in...

I missed about your Pop. Glad he's still "available."

Wish mine was!!!

Best,

Andy

Omelet > wrote:

>We are headed towards socialized medicine in the US.
>
>That frightens me quite frankly.

We sure aren't headed there very fast, last I checked.

Steve

In article >, Andy > wrote:

> > I never get the flu shot. Makes me sick if I do.
> > From what little I know about 'flu, secondary infections are the most
> > common cause of death.
>
>
> Om,
>
> The flu shot folks always drill me about egg allergy.
>
> I'm not susceptible to that.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

I won't do it. Period.
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I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

In article >, Andy > wrote:

> Jean B. said...
>
> > Omelet wrote:
> >> Iirc, Blinky died of pneumonia. :-( Guys tend to not get care more than
> >> women do.
> >>
> >> I nearly lost dad to Appendicitis. I'm just lucky I was home when he
> >> went into septic shock.
> >
> > Yeah, I wasn't speaking of the specific cause of death (or near
> > death). Rather the failure to get medical attention.
> >
> > Yes, it is VERY lucky you were there.
>
>
> Om...
>
> Sorry to butt in...
>
> I missed about your Pop. Glad he's still "available."
>
> Wish mine was!!!
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

Condolences dear. <hugs>
Papasan is currently 76 and lives here with me.
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I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> Omelet > wrote:
>
> >We are headed towards socialized medicine in the US.
> >
> >That frightens me quite frankly.
>
> We sure aren't headed there very fast, last I checked.
>
> Steve

I seriously doubt we will be happy with it when it finally happens.
Since when did the Government ever get anything right?
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I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:49:11 -0700, Gloria P >
wrote:

>With heart attack symptoms,
>CALL 911, chew on an aspirin, lie down and wait for help. Do not
>subject your body to any additional mental or physical stress.

Absotively!

Carol, who is glad that Stan is okay

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Steve Pope wrote:
> Omelet > wrote:
>
>> We are headed towards socialized medicine in the US.
>>
>> That frightens me quite frankly.
>
> We sure aren't headed there very fast, last I checked.
>
> Steve


Not fast enough. Doctors are millionaires who have to build medical
centers to shelter their income and a growing percentage of the
population can't afford medical care.

What's wrong with that picture?

gloria p

Gloria P wrote:
Doctors are millionaires who have to build medical
> centers to shelter their income and a growing percentage of the
> population can't afford medical care.
>
> What's wrong with that picture?
>
> gloria p

Do doctors deserve more pay than your auto mechanic?
Do they hold more risks than your auto mechanic?
<shrug>

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:32:15 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:

> Omelet > wrote:
>
>>We are headed towards socialized medicine in the US.
>>
>>That frightens me quite frankly.
>
> We sure aren't headed there very fast, last I checked.
>
> Steve

<snort>

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:11:33 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>> Omelet > wrote:
>>
>>>Blinky's death ****ed me off. There was no reason for him to die of
>>>something so fixable.
>>
>> My (U.S.) health provider says to see a doctor if your cough lasts
>> more than four weeks. Four weeks! Something is wrong with that,
>> I think.
>>
>> In the U.K. management is different. To buy any sort of cough
>> medicine (not just the codeine-containing ones), you are required
>> to talk to a pharmacist, who will try to determine how sick
>> the patient is. If they recognize you from having been in
>> there a week before they will say, "You should not have a cough
>> for this long". Community-acquired pneumonia mortality is
>> about 5% in the U.S. and about 1% in the U.K.
>>
>> It gives one pause.
>>
>> Steve
>
> That's scary.
>
> We are headed towards socialized medicine in the US.
>
> That frightens me quite frankly.

why would it frighten you? you'll still get paid.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:12:23 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>> Omelet > wrote:
>>
>>>We are headed towards socialized medicine in the US.
>>>
>>>That frightens me quite frankly.
>>
>> We sure aren't headed there very fast, last I checked.
>>
>> Steve
>
> I seriously doubt we will be happy with it when it finally happens.
> Since when did the Government ever get anything right?

this is a very tired argument. now if you said 'since when did
*republican* government ever get anything right,' you might be onto
something.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:43:05 -0500, Goomba wrote:

> Gloria P wrote:
> Doctors are millionaires who have to build medical
>> centers to shelter their income and a growing percentage of the
>> population can't afford medical care.
>>
>> What's wrong with that picture?
>>
>> gloria p
>
> Do doctors deserve more pay than your auto mechanic?
> Do they hold more risks than your auto mechanic?
> <shrug>

but should insurance companies, who provide no medical care (and are more
frequently in the business of denying it), also be getting rich?

your pal,
blake

Goomba > wrote:

>Gloria P wrote:

>> Doctors are millionaires who have to build medical
>> centers to shelter their income and a growing percentage of the
>> population can't afford medical care.

>> What's wrong with that picture?

>Do doctors deserve more pay than your auto mechanic?
>Do they hold more risks than your auto mechanic?

I'm sure the average doctor who is past the early part
of their career is a millionaire. Similar to other professionals.
They do good work and get good, or at least adequate pay.

The doctors who quickly become pentamillionaires because
they are in bed with big pharma or gene researchers, this
I have a slight problem with, because those excess spending levels
do trickle down to the medical consumers who either pay
for them, or are squeezed by added rationing on services.
In order to inflate one end of the baloon you must squeeze
the other end.

Steve

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:43:05 -0500, Goomba >
wrote:

>Gloria P wrote:
> Doctors are millionaires who have to build medical
>> centers to shelter their income and a growing percentage of the
>> population can't afford medical care.
>>
>> What's wrong with that picture?
>>
>> gloria p
>
>Do doctors deserve more pay than your auto mechanic?
>Do they hold more risks than your auto mechanic?
><shrug>

Obviously the doctor and the mechanic will give different answers.

Lou

On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:08:34 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:11:33 -0600, Omelet wrote:

>> We are headed towards socialized medicine in the US.
>>
>> That frightens me quite frankly.
>
>why would it frighten you? you'll still get paid.
>
>your pal,
>blake

Yabut she'll also have to help pay for other peoples insurance and/or
medical needs. That's about as fair as the 91% who are living within
their means having to bail out the 9% who made stupid choices.

Lou

In article >,
Lou Decruss > wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:43:05 -0500, Goomba >
> wrote:
>
> >Gloria P wrote:
> > Doctors are millionaires who have to build medical
> >> centers to shelter their income and a growing percentage of the
> >> population can't afford medical care.
> >>
> >> What's wrong with that picture?
> >>
> >> gloria p
> >
> >Do doctors deserve more pay than your auto mechanic?
> >Do they hold more risks than your auto mechanic?
> ><shrug>
>
> Obviously the doctor and the mechanic will give different answers.

Obviously, the doctor is not going to ask to get less money, but still,
a lot of doctors are complaining about medicine in the US. They
sometimes aren't allowed to make their own medical decisions because the
insurance company reserves that right, they can't treat some patients
because the patients can't afford it and they know that there are
patients who need medical care who aren't getting much of anything.
Combine that with inappropriate medical care (the homeless who get all
their routine care in the ER, and still don't get treated for really
simple things that eventually turn into really expensive things), and
some doctors are getting frustrated.

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Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA