Or more appropriately, reducing the portion sizes of the food I eat. By
half. I'm also making an attempt to move away from beef and pork so
much, and more towards chicken and fish (for lower fat intake).

I'm trying to go from 180 back down to 140.

I will have the hardest time reducing visits with my best friend: beer.

Fortunately I'm sick as hell right now, and not only can I not eat, but
drinking is waaay out of the question.


We'll see what happens when I get better though.

-J

On Feb 15, 3:19*pm, phaeton > wrote:
> Or more appropriately, reducing the portion sizes of the food I eat. *By
> * half. *I'm also making an attempt to move away from beef and pork so
> much, and more towards chicken and fish (for lower fat intake).
>
> I'm trying to go from 180 back down to 140.
>
> I will have the hardest time reducing visits with my best friend: *beer..
>
> Fortunately I'm sick as hell right now, and not only can I not eat, but
> drinking is waaay out of the question.
>
> We'll see what happens when I get better though.
>
> -J

That was the way it was with me, there's one food that is your best
bud and how can you ignore it like that?<G>

If you drink with friends, switch to alternating a beer with a glass
of water or seltzer, so you cut your comsumption by half. That
helps. If you drink alone, don't bring any beer into the house.
And if you do bring it home, buy the midget ones, 8 oz or something
like that.

My family and I love potato chips. I'm a chipoholic. For me, I had
to get the individual sized bags or my family wouldn't get any. They
take them in their lunch bags. I keep them in a place that's too
inaccessible in the morning for me to remember to grab them.

maxine in ri
35 down, 15 to go

phaeton > wrote in news:CN_ll.17846$c45.8486
@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com:

> Or more appropriately, reducing the portion sizes of the food I eat. By
> half. I'm also making an attempt to move away from beef and pork so
> much, and more towards chicken and fish (for lower fat intake).
>
> I'm trying to go from 180 back down to 140.
>
> I will have the hardest time reducing visits with my best friend: beer.
>
> Fortunately I'm sick as hell right now, and not only can I not eat, but
> drinking is waaay out of the question.
>
>
> We'll see what happens when I get better though.
>
> -J



The beer will always be there when you're down to your goal weight. The world
isn't going to run out of it while you're off it. Once your down, then you
can shift onto low-carb beers.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Life is not like a box of chocolates... it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
What you do today... might burn your ass tomorrow."

Peter wrote:
> phaeton > wrote in news:CN_ll.17846$c45.8486
> @nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
>> Or more appropriately, reducing the portion sizes of the food I eat. By
>> half. I'm also making an attempt to move away from beef and pork so
>> much, and more towards chicken and fish (for lower fat intake).
>>
>> I'm trying to go from 180 back down to 140.
>>
>> I will have the hardest time reducing visits with my best friend: beer.
>>
>> Fortunately I'm sick as hell right now, and not only can I not eat, but
>> drinking is waaay out of the question.
>>
>>
>> We'll see what happens when I get better though.
>>
>> -J
>
>
>
> The beer will always be there when you're down to your goal weight. The world
> isn't going to run out of it while you're off it. Once your down, then you
> can shift onto low-carb beers.
>
>
>

Therein lies the problem... the beers that I like tend to be
substantial craft and microbrewed stuff... heavy porters and thick
lagers and whatnot. I've never looked it up, but I'm willing to bet
that a lot of the usual stuff I like (mostly locally brewed) is way off
the charts in carbs and calories compared to your standard
Budweiser/Coors/MGD or whatever the average American drinks. On average
it's typically 6.5% to 10% ABV, if that's any indicator.

But alas, I must cease. Of anything, once I do return, I'll both be
lighter and my tolerance will come down, so I won't have to drink as
much to reach and maintain that "warm fuzzy feeling". :P

-J

On Feb 15, 5:53*pm, phaeton > wrote:
> Peter wrote:
> > phaeton > wrote in news:CN_ll.17846$c45.8486
> > @nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
> >> Or more appropriately, reducing the portion sizes of the food I eat. *By
> >> * half. *I'm also making an attempt to move away from beef and pork so
> >> much, and more towards chicken and fish (for lower fat intake).
>
> >> I'm trying to go from 180 back down to 140.
>
> >> I will have the hardest time reducing visits with my best friend: *beer.
>
> >> Fortunately I'm sick as hell right now, and not only can I not eat, but
> >> drinking is waaay out of the question.
>
> >> We'll see what happens when I get better though.
>
> >> -J
>
> > The beer will always be there when you're down to your goal weight. The world
> > isn't going to run out of it while you're off it. Once your down, then you
> > can shift onto low-carb beers.
>
> Therein lies the problem... *the beers that I like tend to be
> substantial craft and microbrewed stuff... heavy porters and thick
> lagers and whatnot. *I've never looked it up, but I'm willing to bet
> that a lot of the usual stuff I like (mostly locally brewed) is way off
> the charts in carbs and calories compared to your standard
> Budweiser/Coors/MGD or whatever the average American drinks. *On average
> it's typically 6.5% to 10% ABV, if that's any indicator.
>
> But alas, I must cease. *Of anything, once I do return, I'll both be
> lighter and my tolerance will come down, so I won't have to drink as
> much to reach and maintain that "warm fuzzy feeling". *:P
>
> -J- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Go for a 2 mile long walk every day, and have 1 beer- the type you
like. Bet the walking will counter act the beer! I'm trying to lose
weight also- I've been doing the Wii Fit, and am pretty happy with it.
Instead of fast food 3-4 times a week, I now have Lean Cuisines fo
lunch. I also eat something for breakfast, which is something I never
used to do, but it's helping me not eat so much or without discretion
at lunch! Lost 12 pounds, but another 30 to go!

In article
>,
merryb > wrote:

> Go for a 2 mile long walk every day, and have 1 beer- the type you
> like. Bet the walking will counter act the beer! I'm trying to lose
> weight also- I've been doing the Wii Fit, and am pretty happy with it.
> Instead of fast food 3-4 times a week, I now have Lean Cuisines fo
> lunch. I also eat something for breakfast, which is something I never
> used to do, but it's helping me not eat so much or without discretion
> at lunch! Lost 12 pounds, but another 30 to go!

I have 70 to go. ;-) Lean cuisines would be a treat.

Whey protein shakes are more my thing right now.
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

Omelet wrote:

>
> Whey protein shakes are more my thing right now.

Steamed vegetables and jasmine rice for lunch. I haven't decided yet if
a bowl of miso soup is in order. This selection is more a function of
my lingering stomach flu, but I'm probably looking forward to more meals
like this in the future.

I started eating breakfast about two years ago, after reading how
skipping it can increase your chances of diabetes. I would prefer to
make breakfast the most substantial meal of the day, but due to time
constraints, it's typically a bowl of Raisin Bran, Grape Nuts, or
Shredded Wheat. I don't tend to drink milk by itself, so I feel that
cereal should be a good fiber+dairy component for the day.

I only eat fast food* as a last resort. I try to cook a lot of stuff
when I am cooking, so that I'll have the leftovers to take for lunch.
Once I got into this habit, I just couldn't go back. The last time I
was at a burger joint I was thinking to myself "I paid $7 for this crap?".

Dinner is usually more leftovers. But starting soon I'm going to put
more effort into it. It'd only take 30 minutes to grill a boneless
skinless chicken breast and whip up some couscous and vegetables. Laugh
at my Foreman Grill all ye like.

I mean to exercise every morning at the local fitness center in my
apartment complex. It's just so unpleasant to climb out of a warm, soft
bed, and step out into 10F weather for a trip across an icy landscape.

But anyways... we'll see how much i actually do, vs. talk about it

-J

*fast food: meaning the typical mcduck's, bk, wendy's, A&W, taco bell,
etc. I don't count better sandwich joints such as Jimmy John's, or
places like Noodles & Company as typical 'fast food'. These places are
actually pretty decent, nutritionally.

On Feb 16, 9:26*am, Omelet > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
> *merryb > wrote:
> > Go for a 2 mile long walk every day, and have 1 beer- the type you
> > like. Bet the walking will counter act the beer! I'm trying to lose
> > weight also- I've been doing the Wii Fit, and am pretty happy with it.
> > Instead of fast food 3-4 times a week, I now have Lean Cuisines fo
> > lunch. I also eat something for breakfast, which is something I never
> > used to do, but it's helping me not eat so much or without discretion
> > at lunch! Lost 12 pounds, but another 30 to go!
>
> I have 70 to go. ;-) Lean cuisines would be a treat.
>
> Whey protein shakes are more my thing right now.
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

Can you not eat L.C.? I notice you are watching carbs- is that why?

In article >,
phaeton > wrote:

> Laugh
> at my Foreman Grill all ye like.
>
> I mean to exercise every morning at the local fitness center in my
> apartment complex. It's just so unpleasant to climb out of a warm, soft
> bed, and step out into 10F weather for a trip across an icy landscape.
>
> But anyways... we'll see how much i actually do, vs. talk about it
>
> -J

I love my Hamilton Grill. It's like the Foreman, but cheaper. ;-)

Good luck with your exercise program. I'm using my mat and Airrosti
roller.

No pain, no gain!
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

In article
>,
merryb > wrote:

> > I have 70 to go. ;-) Lean cuisines would be a treat.
> >
> > Whey protein shakes are more my thing right now.
>
> Can you not eat L.C.? I notice you are watching carbs- is that why?

No starch, no sugar.

The protein shakes are convenient for work.

Even with tight self-discipline, progress is slow. <shrugs>
I eat real food at home. :-)
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:59:45 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> phaeton > wrote:
>
>> Laugh
>> at my Foreman Grill all ye like.
>>
>> I mean to exercise every morning at the local fitness center in my
>> apartment complex. It's just so unpleasant to climb out of a warm, soft
>> bed, and step out into 10F weather for a trip across an icy landscape.
>>
>> But anyways... we'll see how much i actually do, vs. talk about it
>>
>> -J
>
>I love my Hamilton Grill. It's like the Foreman, but cheaper. ;-)
>
>Good luck with your exercise program. I'm using my mat and Airrosti
>roller.
>
>No pain, no gain!

I have a new exercise program also. It's called the new puppy program.
I even get to exercise in the middle of the night Yippiee!!!!!!!!!!!!

koko
--

There is no love more sincere than the love of food
George Bernard Shaw
www.kokoscorner.typepad.com
updated 02/16

On Feb 16, 3:54*pm, koko > wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:59:45 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >In article >,
> > phaeton > wrote:
>
> >> Laugh
> >> at my Foreman Grill all ye like.
>
> >> I mean to exercise every morning at the local fitness center in my
> >> apartment complex. *It's just so unpleasant to climb out of a warm, soft
> >> bed, and step out into 10F weather for a trip across an icy landscape.
>
> >> But anyways... we'll see how much i actually do, vs. talk about it
>
> >> -J
>
> >I love my Hamilton Grill. *It's like the Foreman, but cheaper. ;-)
>
> >Good luck with your exercise program. I'm using my mat and Airrosti
> >roller.
>
> >No pain, no gain!
>
> I have a new exercise program also. It's called the new puppy program.
> I even get to exercise in the middle of the night Yippiee!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> koko
> --
>
> There is no love more sincere than the love of food
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *George Bernard Shawwww.kokoscorner.typepad.com
> updated 02/16

I'm going to start that plan myself in the next few months...what kind
of puppy did you get? I'm leaning towards a German Shepard...

In article >,
koko > wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:59:45 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > phaeton > wrote:
> >
> >> Laugh
> >> at my Foreman Grill all ye like.
> >>
> >> I mean to exercise every morning at the local fitness center in my
> >> apartment complex. It's just so unpleasant to climb out of a warm, soft
> >> bed, and step out into 10F weather for a trip across an icy landscape.
> >>
> >> But anyways... we'll see how much i actually do, vs. talk about it
> >>
> >> -J
> >
> >I love my Hamilton Grill. It's like the Foreman, but cheaper. ;-)
> >
> >Good luck with your exercise program. I'm using my mat and Airrosti
> >roller.
> >
> >No pain, no gain!
>
> I have a new exercise program also. It's called the new puppy program.
> I even get to exercise in the middle of the night Yippiee!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> koko
> --
>
> There is no love more sincere than the love of food
> George Bernard Shaw
> www.kokoscorner.typepad.com
> updated 02/16

I'm supposed to use my roller twice per day.

Yah, right. <g>
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:47:26 -0800 (PST), merryb >
wrote:

>On Feb 16, 3:54*pm, koko > wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:59:45 -0600, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >In article >,
>> > phaeton > wrote:
>>
>> >> Laugh
>> >> at my Foreman Grill all ye like.
>>
>> >> I mean to exercise every morning at the local fitness center in my
>> >> apartment complex. *It's just so unpleasant to climb out of a warm, soft
>> >> bed, and step out into 10F weather for a trip across an icy landscape.
>>
>> >> But anyways... we'll see how much i actually do, vs. talk about it
>>
>> >> -J
>>
>> >I love my Hamilton Grill. *It's like the Foreman, but cheaper. ;-)
>>
>> >Good luck with your exercise program. I'm using my mat and Airrosti
>> >roller.
>>
>> >No pain, no gain!
>>
>> I have a new exercise program also. It's called the new puppy program.
>> I even get to exercise in the middle of the night Yippiee!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> koko
>> --
>>
>> There is no love more sincere than the love of food
>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *George Bernard Shawwww.kokoscorner.typepad.com
>> updated 02/16
>
>I'm going to start that plan myself in the next few months...what kind
>of puppy did you get? I'm leaning towards a German Shepard...

We got a Queensland Heeler, an energetic little girl. She thinks her
name is NO!!

koko
--

There is no love more sincere than the love of food
George Bernard Shaw
www.kokoscorner.typepad.com
updated 02/16

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:00:07 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> koko > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:59:45 -0600, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article >,
>> > phaeton > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Laugh
>> >> at my Foreman Grill all ye like.
>> >>
>> >> I mean to exercise every morning at the local fitness center in my
>> >> apartment complex. It's just so unpleasant to climb out of a warm, soft
>> >> bed, and step out into 10F weather for a trip across an icy landscape.
>> >>
>> >> But anyways... we'll see how much i actually do, vs. talk about it
>> >>
>> >> -J
>> >
>> >I love my Hamilton Grill. It's like the Foreman, but cheaper. ;-)
>> >
>> >Good luck with your exercise program. I'm using my mat and Airrosti
>> >roller.
>> >
>> >No pain, no gain!
>>
>> I have a new exercise program also. It's called the new puppy program.
>> I even get to exercise in the middle of the night Yippiee!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> koko
>> --
>>
>> There is no love more sincere than the love of food
>> George Bernard Shaw
>> www.kokoscorner.typepad.com
>> updated 02/16
>
>I'm supposed to use my roller twice per day.
>
>Yah, right. <g>

At least you know what you are "supposed" to do. That's a step in the
right direction. <toothy grin here>

koko
--

There is no love more sincere than the love of food
George Bernard Shaw
www.kokoscorner.typepad.com
updated 02/16

koko wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:47:26 -0800 (PST), merryb >
> wrote:
>
>
>>On Feb 16, 3:54 pm, koko > wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:59:45 -0600, Omelet >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article >,
>>>>phaeton > wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Laugh
>>>>>at my Foreman Grill all ye like.
>>>
>>>>>I mean to exercise every morning at the local fitness center in my
>>>>>apartment complex. It's just so unpleasant to climb out of a warm, soft
>>>>>bed, and step out into 10F weather for a trip across an icy landscape.
>>>
>>>>>But anyways... we'll see how much i actually do, vs. talk about it
>>>
>>>>>-J
>>>
>>>>I love my Hamilton Grill. It's like the Foreman, but cheaper. ;-)
>>>
>>>>Good luck with your exercise program. I'm using my mat and Airrosti
>>>>roller.
>>>
>>>>No pain, no gain!
>>>
>>>I have a new exercise program also. It's called the new puppy program.
>>>I even get to exercise in the middle of the night Yippiee!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>koko
>>>--
>>>
>>>There is no love more sincere than the love of food
>>> George Bernard Shawwww.kokoscorner.typepad.com
>>>updated 02/16
>>
>>I'm going to start that plan myself in the next few months...what kind
>>of puppy did you get? I'm leaning towards a German Shepard...
>
>
> We got a Queensland Heeler, an energetic little girl. She thinks her
> name is NO!!

I love herding breeds. Gotta watch them around little kids, though. If
they don't have sheep or cattle to herd they'll gladly make due with
children and neither the children nor their parents will be happy about it.

My border collies try to herd the cats at the stable. Talk about
frustration... And then poor Zane was checking out the north end of a
southbound kitty, got scratched across the nose and screamed like a
little girl. Now when we go to the farmer's co-op, the resident cats
come over and stare at him through the glass door and he gets all
freaked out and clingy and tries to hide behind my knees. I swear they
can smell fear.

Kathleen said...

> My border collies try to herd the cats at the stable. Talk about
> frustration... And then poor Zane was checking out the north end of a
> southbound kitty, got scratched across the nose and screamed like a
> little girl. Now when we go to the farmer's co-op, the resident cats
> come over and stare at him through the glass door and he gets all
> freaked out and clingy and tries to hide behind my knees. I swear they
> can smell fear.


Kathleen,

My Annabelle, Jack Russell "Terror" used to go mad when the next door (a
twin side by sid house)cats would put their paws under the dividing door.
DROVE HER UP THE WALL. She SO much wanted to attack.

Then one day the cats were teasing my Annabelle and by some mistake the
door opened.

There were four cats who instantly raised their fur in anger/surprise and
hissed, fangs and claws exposed. I witnessed it with in surprise.

Annabelle, the proud protector of our premises instantly ran behind my
wife's chaise lounge!

While the door was CLOSED, she was very intimidating, but face to face...
quite the coward!

Best,

Andy

In article >,
koko > wrote:

> >I'm supposed to use my roller twice per day.
> >
> >Yah, right. <g>
>
> At least you know what you are "supposed" to do. That's a step in the
> right direction. <toothy grin here>
>
> koko
> --

The damn thing hurts...
Doc says it'll get better if I keep it up for 7 days.
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

In article >,
Kathleen > wrote:

> I love herding breeds. Gotta watch them around little kids, though. If
> they don't have sheep or cattle to herd they'll gladly make due with
> children and neither the children nor their parents will be happy about it.

Too true. My BC herds cars, fortunately from within the fence line.

>
> My border collies try to herd the cats at the stable. Talk about
> frustration... And then poor Zane was checking out the north end of a
> southbound kitty, got scratched across the nose and screamed like a
> little girl. Now when we go to the farmer's co-op, the resident cats
> come over and stare at him through the glass door and he gets all
> freaked out and clingy and tries to hide behind my knees. I swear they
> can smell fear.

Sorry but that's just too funny. ;-)
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

>> The beer will always be there when you're down to your goal weight. The
>> world isn't going to run out of it while you're off it. Once your down,
>> then you can shift onto low-carb beers.
>>
>
> Therein lies the problem... the beers that I like tend to be substantial
> craft and microbrewed stuff... heavy porters and thick lagers and whatnot.
> I've never looked it up, but I'm willing to bet that a lot of the usual
> stuff I like (mostly locally brewed) is way off the charts in carbs and
> calories compared to your standard Budweiser/Coors/MGD or whatever the
> average American drinks. On average it's typically 6.5% to 10% ABV, if
> that's any indicator.
>
> But alas, I must cease. Of anything, once I do return, I'll both be
> lighter and my tolerance will come down, so I won't have to drink as much
> to reach and maintain that "warm fuzzy feeling". :P
>
> -J

J,
Maybe switch to wine? I (and my doctor) decided I needed to lose a lot of
weight last spring due to
some impending cardiac issues. One of my major issues was I was indulging
the beer snob in my
soul way too often. Since I was on my way to becoming a student of the grape
I decided to switch
my efforts to being a wine snob instead.

This really helped my losing weight. It was fun, too. If you think there's a
lot of wonderful beers
out there to enjoy and admire, there has to be 100 times the number of wines
available. You'll find the same
endless varieties, pride of craftsmanship and attention to detail that you
see in a good craft beer.

Eating less and lots of exercise did the rest. Over 50 lbs. in 6 months.
Cardiac issues are gone.
BP and cholesterol are better than they've been in 30 years.

You can do it too. Give it a shot.

Jon

On Feb 17, 10:29*am, "Zeppo" > wrote:
> >> The beer will always be there when you're down to your goal weight. The
> >> world isn't going to run out of it while you're off it. Once your down,
> >> then you can shift onto low-carb beers.
>
> > Therein lies the problem... *the beers that I like tend to be substantial
> > craft and microbrewed stuff... heavy porters and thick lagers and whatnot.
> > I've never looked it up, but I'm willing to bet that a lot of the usual
> > stuff I like (mostly locally brewed) is way off the charts in carbs and
> > calories compared to your standard Budweiser/Coors/MGD or whatever the
> > average American drinks. *On average it's typically 6.5% to 10% ABV, if
> > that's any indicator.
>
> > But alas, I must cease. *Of anything, once I do return, I'll both be
> > lighter and my tolerance will come down, so I won't have to drink as much
> > to reach and maintain that "warm fuzzy feeling". *:P
>
> > -J
>
> J,
> Maybe switch to wine? I (and my doctor) decided I needed to lose a lot of
> weight last spring due to
> some impending cardiac issues. One of my major issues was I was indulging
> the beer snob in my
> soul way too often. Since I was on my way to becoming a student of the grape
> I decided to switch
> my efforts to being a wine snob instead.
>
> This really helped my losing weight. It was fun, too. If you think there's a
> lot of wonderful beers
> out there to enjoy and admire, there has to be 100 times the number of wines
> available. You'll find the same
> endless varieties, pride of craftsmanship and attention to detail that you
> see in a good craft beer.
>
> Eating less and lots of exercise did the rest. Over 50 lbs. in 6 months.
> Cardiac issues are gone.
> BP and cholesterol are better than they've been in 30 years.
>
> You can do it too. Give it a shot.
>
> Jon- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Good for you- that's excellent! I recently switched to wine myself.

> J,
> Maybe switch to wine? I (and my doctor) decided I needed to lose a lot of
> weight last spring due to
> some impending cardiac issues. One of my major issues was I was indulging
> the beer snob in my
> soul way too often. Since I was on my way to becoming a student of the
> grape
> I decided to switch
> my efforts to being a wine snob instead.
>
> This really helped my losing weight. It was fun, too. If you think there's
> a
> lot of wonderful beers
> out there to enjoy and admire, there has to be 100 times the number of
> wines
> available. You'll find the same
> endless varieties, pride of craftsmanship and attention to detail that you
> see in a good craft beer.
>
> Eating less and lots of exercise did the rest. Over 50 lbs. in 6 months.
> Cardiac issues are gone.
> BP and cholesterol are better than they've been in 30 years.
>
> You can do it too. Give it a shot.
>
> Jon- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Good for you- that's excellent! I recently switched to wine myself.

Thanks Merry. Opened a bottle of Acheval Ferrer Malbec Mendoza with dinner
last night. Good stuff!

Jon

On Feb 17, 1:45*pm, "Zeppo" > wrote:
> > J,
> > Maybe switch to wine? I (and my doctor) decided I needed to lose a lot of
> > weight last spring due to
> > some impending cardiac issues. One of my major issues was I was indulging
> > the beer snob in my
> > soul way too often. Since I was on my way to becoming a student of the
> > grape
> > I decided to switch
> > my efforts to being a wine snob instead.
>
> > This really helped my losing weight. It was fun, too. If you think there's
> > a
> > lot of wonderful beers
> > out there to enjoy and admire, there has to be 100 times the number of
> > wines
> > available. You'll find the same
> > endless varieties, pride of craftsmanship and attention to detail that you
> > see in a good craft beer.
>
> > Eating less and lots of exercise did the rest. Over 50 lbs. in 6 months..
> > Cardiac issues are gone.
> > BP and cholesterol are better than they've been in 30 years.
>
> > You can do it too. Give it a shot.
>
> > Jon- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Good for you- that's excellent! I recently switched to wine myself.
>
> Thanks Merry. Opened a bottle of Acheval Ferrer Malbec Mendoza with dinner
> last night. Good stuff!
>
> Jon- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Is that a red? I had to go to a Sportsman's show last week, & there
was a vendor from E. Washington who has a winery. He only does reds.
After chatting and having a couple of samples, I told him I would come
back & buy one- there weren't many people there, and he was a nice
guy, so I kinda felt like I should. Guess I should have asked the
price before, but...So I spent 27 bucks on a bottle! Yikes! It was
nice, tho!

On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:19:01 -0600, Kathleen
> wrote:

>koko wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:47:26 -0800 (PST), merryb >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Feb 16, 3:54 pm, koko > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:59:45 -0600, Omelet >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article >,
>>>>>phaeton > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>Laugh
>>>>>>at my Foreman Grill all ye like.
>>>>
>>>>>>I mean to exercise every morning at the local fitness center in my
>>>>>>apartment complex. It's just so unpleasant to climb out of a warm, soft
>>>>>>bed, and step out into 10F weather for a trip across an icy landscape.
>>>>
>>>>>>But anyways... we'll see how much i actually do, vs. talk about it
>>>>
>>>>>>-J
>>>>
>>>>>I love my Hamilton Grill. It's like the Foreman, but cheaper. ;-)
>>>>
>>>>>Good luck with your exercise program. I'm using my mat and Airrosti
>>>>>roller.
>>>>
>>>>>No pain, no gain!
>>>>
>>>>I have a new exercise program also. It's called the new puppy program.
>>>>I even get to exercise in the middle of the night Yippiee!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>koko
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>There is no love more sincere than the love of food
>>>> George Bernard Shawwww.kokoscorner.typepad.com
>>>>updated 02/16
>>>
>>>I'm going to start that plan myself in the next few months...what kind
>>>of puppy did you get? I'm leaning towards a German Shepard...
>>
>>
>> We got a Queensland Heeler, an energetic little girl. She thinks her
>> name is NO!!
>
>I love herding breeds. Gotta watch them around little kids, though. If
>they don't have sheep or cattle to herd they'll gladly make due with
>children and neither the children nor their parents will be happy about it.
>
>My border collies try to herd the cats at the stable. Talk about
>frustration... And then poor Zane was checking out the north end of a
>southbound kitty, got scratched across the nose and screamed like a
>little girl. Now when we go to the farmer's co-op, the resident cats
>come over and stare at him through the glass door and he gets all
>freaked out and clingy and tries to hide behind my knees. I swear they
>can smell fear.

We are really blessed. If I had a choice, I wouldn't have picked this
breed, now I wouldn't trade her for the world and would have a heeler
again. I have since found out what smart dogs they are and she has so
much personality.

Our little Yorkie died last year. A local "cowboy" that raises and
trains heelers offered Stan a dog whenever we were ready for another
dog. What a great gift as his dogs are quite expensive.
I'm a happy girl.

koko
--

There is no love more sincere than the love of food
George Bernard Shaw
www.kokoscorner.typepad.com
updated 02/16

koko > wrote in
:


>
> We are really blessed. If I had a choice, I wouldn't have picked this
> breed, now I wouldn't trade her for the world and would have a heeler
> again. I have since found out what smart dogs they are and she has so
> much personality.
>
> Our little Yorkie died last year. A local "cowboy" that raises and
> trains heelers offered Stan a dog whenever we were ready for another
> dog. What a great gift as his dogs are quite expensive.
> I'm a happy girl.
>


It must be that time of the year for everyone to get a new dog!!

I have *4* friends who've just got brand new puppies, and now it seems like a
damn baby creche everytime we get together!!

My poor 'old' girl (she'll be 9 in June) gets a bit frustrated with all the
bouncing babies and ends up whacking one of her massive paws on them to hold
them down!!

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Life is not like a box of chocolates... it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
What you do today... might burn your ass tomorrow."

"Peter" > wrote in message
. 25...
> koko > wrote in
> :
>
>
>>
>> We are really blessed. If I had a choice, I wouldn't have picked this
>> breed, now I wouldn't trade her for the world and would have a heeler
>> again. I have since found out what smart dogs they are and she has so
>> much personality.
>>
>> Our little Yorkie died last year. A local "cowboy" that raises and
>> trains heelers offered Stan a dog whenever we were ready for another
>> dog. What a great gift as his dogs are quite expensive.
>> I'm a happy girl.
>>
>
>
> It must be that time of the year for everyone to get a new dog!!
>
> I have *4* friends who've just got brand new puppies, and now it seems
> like a
> damn baby creche everytime we get together!!
>

Your post is more about saying you have 4 friends than any thing else.
Why do you have to alway over compensate?
It is like you have to exaggerate good qualities to make up for all your
shortcomings. Not that you have any good qualities!

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Kathleen > wrote:
>
>
>>I love herding breeds. Gotta watch them around little kids, though. If
>>they don't have sheep or cattle to herd they'll gladly make due with
>>children and neither the children nor their parents will be happy about it.
>
>
> Too true. My BC herds cars, fortunately from within the fence line.
>
>
>>My border collies try to herd the cats at the stable. Talk about
>>frustration... And then poor Zane was checking out the north end of a
>>southbound kitty, got scratched across the nose and screamed like a
>>little girl. Now when we go to the farmer's co-op, the resident cats
>>come over and stare at him through the glass door and he gets all
>>freaked out and clingy and tries to hide behind my knees. I swear they
>>can smell fear.
>
>
> Sorry but that's just too funny. ;-)

It is funny but yesterday was even better.

First, some background info: My daughter taught Scully and Zane to "Pup
Up". In Scully's case this involves turning broadside to the handler
and sort of levitating into your arms. Back end and front end rise
simultaneously and it's reflexive to just reach out and catch her, even
if you're not expecting it. She's so relaxed and graceful that it's
like having a feather pillow tossed at you.

Zane is a different matter. Only ten pounds heavier but much bigger,
bonier and about twice as fast; he feels like he's made of bungie cords
and antlers. Catching Zane is like having a duffle bag full of hammers
thrown at you. I discourage this particular trick with him. But a
border collie never forgets.

So we're at the co-op and that one really nasty black cat follows a
customer in through the glass door. Zane and I are following the
manager back to scout out the feed buckets, round the corner and come
face-to-face with the damned cat.

And, in full sight of the staff, my big, tough flyball champion border
collie squeals and hurtles skyward into the arms of the nearest human,
who just happened to be the manager. Now this is a big guy, probably
6'3", close to 300 pounds and I have to give him props for actually
making the catch, but it rocked him and he nearly fell over.

I thought the old guy behind the counter was going to pee in his
overalls and the boy was alternating between laughing and lamenting the
fact that he never has his cell phone when he needs it.

We paid for our feed bucket and our 40 pounds of Diamond Dog Food (Adult
Maintenance formula for the off-season) and as we were skulking off into
the sunset, the entire scenario was being re-enacted for the guys from
the warehouse. Glad we could brighten their day...

Wussy dog.

In article >,
Kathleen > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Kathleen > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I love herding breeds. Gotta watch them around little kids, though. If
> >>they don't have sheep or cattle to herd they'll gladly make due with
> >>children and neither the children nor their parents will be happy about it.
> >
> >
> > Too true. My BC herds cars, fortunately from within the fence line.
> >
> >
> >>My border collies try to herd the cats at the stable. Talk about
> >>frustration... And then poor Zane was checking out the north end of a
> >>southbound kitty, got scratched across the nose and screamed like a
> >>little girl. Now when we go to the farmer's co-op, the resident cats
> >>come over and stare at him through the glass door and he gets all
> >>freaked out and clingy and tries to hide behind my knees. I swear they
> >>can smell fear.
> >
> >
> > Sorry but that's just too funny. ;-)
>
> It is funny but yesterday was even better.
>
> First, some background info: My daughter taught Scully and Zane to "Pup
> Up". In Scully's case this involves turning broadside to the handler
> and sort of levitating into your arms. Back end and front end rise
> simultaneously and it's reflexive to just reach out and catch her, even
> if you're not expecting it. She's so relaxed and graceful that it's
> like having a feather pillow tossed at you.
>
> Zane is a different matter. Only ten pounds heavier but much bigger,
> bonier and about twice as fast; he feels like he's made of bungie cords
> and antlers. Catching Zane is like having a duffle bag full of hammers
> thrown at you. I discourage this particular trick with him. But a
> border collie never forgets.
>
> So we're at the co-op and that one really nasty black cat follows a
> customer in through the glass door. Zane and I are following the
> manager back to scout out the feed buckets, round the corner and come
> face-to-face with the damned cat.
>
> And, in full sight of the staff, my big, tough flyball champion border
> collie squeals and hurtles skyward into the arms of the nearest human,
> who just happened to be the manager. Now this is a big guy, probably
> 6'3", close to 300 pounds and I have to give him props for actually
> making the catch, but it rocked him and he nearly fell over.
>
> I thought the old guy behind the counter was going to pee in his
> overalls and the boy was alternating between laughing and lamenting the
> fact that he never has his cell phone when he needs it.
>
> We paid for our feed bucket and our 40 pounds of Diamond Dog Food (Adult
> Maintenance formula for the off-season) and as we were skulking off into
> the sunset, the entire scenario was being re-enacted for the guys from
> the warehouse. Glad we could brighten their day...
>
> Wussy dog.

<snicker>

Thanks for sharing that. ;-D

I needed a good laugh after my fourth Airrosti treatment this morning.
He went after some deeply damaged hip muscles. I have bruises, but it's
worth it as it restored long lost function.
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

Omelet > wrote in
news

>
> I needed a good laugh after my fourth Airrosti treatment this morning.
> He went after some deeply damaged hip muscles. I have bruises, but it's
> worth it as it restored long lost function.


Ouch!!!


Sometimes don't you just wish you had a zipper on your back so that you could
step out of your skin, shake it off and put it back on all nice and straight
and even....... and someone could reach in and fine tune the skeleton at the
same time!! :-)

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Life is not like a box of chocolates... it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
What you do today... might burn your ass tomorrow."

In article >,
PeterL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in
> news >
>
> >
> > I needed a good laugh after my fourth Airrosti treatment this morning.
> > He went after some deeply damaged hip muscles. I have bruises, but it's
> > worth it as it restored long lost function.
>
>
> Ouch!!!

He finally managed to get a bit of "vocal pain expression" out of me.
That's a first as I have a high pain tolerance and consider yelling from
pain to be undignified. <g>

>
>
> Sometimes don't you just wish you had a zipper on your back so that you could
> step out of your skin, shake it off and put it back on all nice and straight
> and even....... and someone could reach in and fine tune the skeleton at the
> same time!! :-)

Onc could only wish. <g> I'm icing the bruises.
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

Omelet > wrote in
news
> In article >,
> PeterL > wrote:
>
>> Omelet > wrote in
>> news >>
>>
>> >
>> > I needed a good laugh after my fourth Airrosti treatment this
>> > morning. He went after some deeply damaged hip muscles. I have
>> > bruises, but it's worth it as it restored long lost function.
>>
>>
>> Ouch!!!
>
> He finally managed to get a bit of "vocal pain expression" out of me.
> That's a first as I have a high pain tolerance and consider yelling from
> pain to be undignified. <g>


Wuss!! ;-P



>> Sometimes don't you just wish you had a zipper on your back so that you
>> could step out of your skin, shake it off and put it back on all nice
>> and straight and even....... and someone could reach in and fine tune
>> the skeleton at the same time!! :-)
>
> Onc could only wish. <g> I'm icing the bruises.


Fill the bath tub with salty water, pour in 20kgs of ice, and sit and read
a book for a bit.

Do that a few times and you'll be ready to go swimming in Antartica :-)

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Life is not like a box of chocolates... it's more like a jar of
jalapenos. What you do today... might burn your ass tomorrow."

In article >,
PeterL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in
> news >
> > In article >,
> > PeterL > wrote:
> >
> >> Omelet > wrote in
> >> news > >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I needed a good laugh after my fourth Airrosti treatment this
> >> > morning. He went after some deeply damaged hip muscles. I have
> >> > bruises, but it's worth it as it restored long lost function.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ouch!!!
> >
> > He finally managed to get a bit of "vocal pain expression" out of me.
> > That's a first as I have a high pain tolerance and consider yelling from
> > pain to be undignified. <g>
>
>
> Wuss!! ;-P

Bite me. ;-)
YOU try letting someone mash on an already tender IT band tract, or bury
thumbs of steel in the groin muscles.

>
>
>
> >> Sometimes don't you just wish you had a zipper on your back so that you
> >> could step out of your skin, shake it off and put it back on all nice
> >> and straight and even....... and someone could reach in and fine tune
> >> the skeleton at the same time!! :-)
> >
> > Onc could only wish. <g> I'm icing the bruises.
>
>
> Fill the bath tub with salty water, pour in 20kgs of ice, and sit and read
> a book for a bit.
>
> Do that a few times and you'll be ready to go swimming in Antartica :-)

<lol> I think I'll just use Epsom Salts.
Actually, the handout provided specifically says to avoid heat and stick
with ice.

I like my ice bag...
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

Omelet > wrote in
news

>> >
>> > He finally managed to get a bit of "vocal pain expression" out of me.
>> > That's a first as I have a high pain tolerance and consider yelling
>> > from pain to be undignified. <g>
>>
>>
>> Wuss!! ;-P
>
> Bite me. ;-)
> YOU try letting someone mash on an already tender IT band tract, or bury
> thumbs of steel in the groin muscles.


I wish I could find a physio with thumbs of steel!!

I had one guy as a physio who was an avid Rugby Union player. He was about
5'11" and weighed in at about 110kgs (ie, built like a brick shithouse!!).
He ended up dislocating his thumbs on 2 seperate occassions trying to
'loosen me up' :-)


>
> I like my ice bag...


I like my ice in a G&T.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Life is not like a box of chocolates... it's more like a jar of
jalapenos. What you do today... might burn your ass tomorrow."

In article >,
PeterL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in
> news >
>
> >> >
> >> > He finally managed to get a bit of "vocal pain expression" out of me.
> >> > That's a first as I have a high pain tolerance and consider yelling
> >> > from pain to be undignified. <g>
> >>
> >>
> >> Wuss!! ;-P
> >
> > Bite me. ;-)
> > YOU try letting someone mash on an already tender IT band tract, or bury
> > thumbs of steel in the groin muscles.
>
>
> I wish I could find a physio with thumbs of steel!!

Some of these guys will fly in. Call the office. ;-)
It may hurt but it sure as hell works. It's nice to be able to finally
run again. I'd not been able to run since I fell last April. I honestly
thought I'd never be able to again...

>
> I had one guy as a physio who was an avid Rugby Union player. He was about
> 5'11" and weighed in at about 110kgs (ie, built like a brick shithouse!!).
> He ended up dislocating his thumbs on 2 seperate occassions trying to
> 'loosen me up' :-)

I doubt that'd happen to Dr. Perry. You should see his forearms.
He's a DC as well as being an ACP. His cred's are on the Airrosti
website. He's the director of field operations.

>
>
> >
> > I like my ice bag...
>
>
> I like my ice in a G&T.

Heh! Not before work...
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

Omelet > wrote in
news
> In article >,
> PeterL > wrote:
>
>> Omelet > wrote in
>> news >>
>>
>> >> >
>> >> > He finally managed to get a bit of "vocal pain expression" out of
>> >> > me. That's a first as I have a high pain tolerance and consider
>> >> > yelling from pain to be undignified. <g>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Wuss!! ;-P
>> >
>> > Bite me. ;-)
>> > YOU try letting someone mash on an already tender IT band tract, or
>> > bury thumbs of steel in the groin muscles.
>>
>>
>> I wish I could find a physio with thumbs of steel!!
>
> Some of these guys will fly in. Call the office. ;-)


I could just imagine the cost per treatment *then*!!



> I doubt that'd happen to Dr. Perry. You should see his forearms.
> He's a DC as well as being an ACP.


DC??? ACP???



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"Life is not like a box of chocolates... it's more like a jar of
jalapenos. What you do today... might burn your ass tomorrow."

On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:57:46 +0000, PeterL wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in
> news >
>
>
>> I needed a good laugh after my fourth Airrosti treatment this morning.
>> He went after some deeply damaged hip muscles. I have bruises, but
>> it's worth it as it restored long lost function.
>
>
> Ouch!!!

Use a speculum next time Peta...

> Sometimes don't you just wish you had a zipper on your back so that you

I'm amazed you havent modified *all* your pants already Peta?
Imagine how many more winos that could penetrate you per hour!


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

If we are not meant to eat dick,
why are they made of meat?

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:06:48 +0000, PeterL wrote:

<snip>

> I had one guy who was an avid Rugby Union player. He was
> about 5'11" and weighed in at about 110kgs (ie, built like a brick
> shithouse!!). He ended up dislocating his thumbs on 2 seperate
> occassions trying to 'loosen me up' :-)

Sigh. Again Peter, perhaps you ought to try using a speculum?
Or perhaps you just like it rough all the time?

> --
> Peter Lucas
> Brisbane
> Australia
>
> Join us in our fight for personal freedoms:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAMBLA
> http://www.nambla.org/

In article >,
PeterL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in
> news >
> > In article >,
> > PeterL > wrote:
> >
> >> Omelet > wrote in
> >> news > >>
> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > He finally managed to get a bit of "vocal pain expression" out of
> >> >> > me. That's a first as I have a high pain tolerance and consider
> >> >> > yelling from pain to be undignified. <g>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Wuss!! ;-P
> >> >
> >> > Bite me. ;-)
> >> > YOU try letting someone mash on an already tender IT band tract, or
> >> > bury thumbs of steel in the groin muscles.
> >>
> >>
> >> I wish I could find a physio with thumbs of steel!!
> >
> > Some of these guys will fly in. Call the office. ;-)
>
>
> I could just imagine the cost per treatment *then*!!
>
>
>
> > I doubt that'd happen to Dr. Perry. You should see his forearms.
> > He's a DC as well as being an ACP.
>
>
> DC??? ACP???

Doctor of Chiropractic, Airrosti Care Practitioner.
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama

Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-5C6424.12110019022009
@news-wc.giganews.com:


>>
>> DC??? ACP???
>
> Doctor of Chiropractic, Airrosti Care Practitioner.


Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

I've only ever visited one Chiro in my life, and he did more damage than
good.

But I have friends who swear by them.

I just call them 'bone crackers' :-)


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

Kill all Google Groups posters.........

http://improve-usenet.org/

http://improve-usenet.org/filters_bg.html

In article >,
PeterL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in newsmpomelet-5C6424.12110019022009
> @news-wc.giganews.com:
>
>
> >>
> >> DC??? ACP???
> >
> > Doctor of Chiropractic, Airrosti Care Practitioner.
>
>
> Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
>
> I've only ever visited one Chiro in my life, and he did more damage than
> good.
>
> But I have friends who swear by them.
>
> I just call them 'bone crackers' :-)

I've been under their care three times now, and have yet to do anything
but benefit.

But I've learned to get references.

I'll have to get pics of the 6 month x-rays from the good that Dr.
Stamps has done me:

http://www.stampschiropractic.com

Perry's speciality is soft tissue injury, but he has extra training.

The first one, Dr. Cresswell, kept me from drastic surgery when I was 13.
--
Peace! Om

I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama