15 Bean Soup & Smoked Ham

INGREDIENTS:
20 oz assorted dried beans (lima, navy, pinto, etc.)
2 qt water, plus 2 cups for cooking
1 cup beef stock (chicken stock works, too; avoid vegetable stock)
1 lb smoked ham or ham hocks
1 large onion, chopped
1 15-oz can diced tomatoes
1 TBS New Mexico Chili Powder
1 TBS lemon juice (fresh squeezed)
2 cloves garlic, crushed
Salt and Pepper to taste
Optional:
2 cups, carrot disks
1 jalapeno, chopped (with seeds for heat)
1 lb Andouille Sausage

METHOD:
Soak beans for at least 8 hours in the 2 quarts of water. Discard soaking
water.

In 5.5 quart crockpot, layer carrots, onion, jalapeno, sausage, beans, and
ham. Add chili powder; less if you don't like things spicy. Add lemon juice,
stock and water. Season to taste.

Set on low and leave alone for 6-10 hours or set on high and cook for 4-5
hours.

Serve with hearty bread and an IPA or stout.

The Ranger

In article dth>,
"The Ranger" > wrote:

> 15 Bean Soup & Smoked Ham
>
> INGREDIENTS:
<snipped>
>
> Serve with hearty bread and an IPA or stout.
>
> The Ranger

Looks yummy. :-) Mine is a bit simpler but yours looks spicier.
It's still cold enough for that kind of soup. I do like to get the bean
mixes!
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On 2009-02-19, The Ranger > wrote:

> 20 oz assorted dried beans (lima, navy, pinto, etc.)

> Soak beans for at least 8 hours.....

> In 5.5 quart crockpot.....

Sorry, Range. Worst bean recipe I've ever run across.

> Serve with hearty bread and an IPA or stout.

Better yet, toss the beans and enjoy the beer.

nb

"notbob" ha scritto nel messaggio The Ranger wrote:
>
>> 20 oz assorted dried beans (lima, navy, pinto, etc.)
>
>> Soak beans for at least 8 hours.....
>
>> In 5.5 quart crockpot.....
>
> Sorry, Range. Worst bean recipe I've ever run across.
>
>> Serve with hearty bread and an IPA or stout.
>
> Better yet, toss the beans and enjoy the beer.
>
> nb

You need to elaborate, because there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with
the recipe to my eyes, and I am not a beginner.

notbob wrote:

> On 2009-02-19, The Ranger > wrote:
>
>
>>20 oz assorted dried beans (lima, navy, pinto, etc.)
>
>
>>Soak beans for at least 8 hours.....
>
>
>>In 5.5 quart crockpot.....
>
>
> Sorry, Range. Worst bean recipe I've ever run across.
>
>
>>Serve with hearty bread and an IPA or stout.
>
>
> Better yet, toss the beans and enjoy the beer.


Why?

What do you perceive as being the issue? It looks alright to me.

notbob > wrote in message
...
> On 2009-02-19, The Ranger > wrote:
>> 20 oz assorted dried beans (lima, navy, pinto, etc.)
>> Soak beans for at least 8 hours.....
>> In 5.5 quart crockpot.....
>
> Sorry, Range. Worst bean recipe I've ever run across.

Cuz I didn't invite you? Didn't have any for leftovers; the daughter-units
went cavegirls on it. I'd say you were wrong and it was one of the best.

>> Serve with hearty bread and an IPA or stout.
>
> Better yet, toss the beans and enjoy the beer.

Which beer? The stout or the IPA. Don't mix 'em. <shudder>

The Ranger

On 2009-02-19, Giusi > wrote:

>>> 20 oz assorted dried beans (lima, navy, pinto, etc.)

15 different beans!? Diff beans have distinct flavors. This trashes that
benefit.

>>> Soak beans for at least 8 hours.....

Soaking beans makes for tough skins and soggy centers.

>>> In 5.5 quart crockpot.....

Slowcooker? Why bother soaking?

>> Sorry, Range. Worst bean recipe I've ever run across.

IMO...


>> Better yet, toss the beans and enjoy the beer.

needs no elaboration.

nb

On 2009-02-19, The Ranger > wrote:

> Which beer? The stout or the IPA. Don't mix 'em. <shudder>

You mix 15 beans but are repulsed at mixing beers (drank separately)?

Whatever.

nb

notbob > wrote in message
...
> On 2009-02-19, The Ranger > wrote:

>> Which beer? The stout or the IPA. Don't mix 'em. <shudder>
>
> You mix 15 beans but are repulsed at mixing beers (drank separately)?
>
Yes. I cannot tell you the different beans or anything other than the soup
tasted great. Drinking the two beers, even seperately, is like mixing wine.
It is done but I prefer enjoying a single style with my food, regardless of
where I'm dining.

The Ranger

notbob > wrote in message
...
> On 2009-02-19, Giusi > wrote:
>
>>>> 20 oz assorted dried beans (lima, navy, pinto, etc.)
>
> 15 different beans!? Diff beans have distinct flavors. This trashes that
> benefit.

Says you. And I'm convinced you couldn't pick out a lima bean from a pinto
from a cranberry if you blind tasted either.

>>>> Soak beans for at least 8 hours.....
>
> Soaking beans makes for tough skins and soggy centers.

It wouldn't have been what the bean farmer recommended if it made for an
inferior product.

>>>> In 5.5 quart crockpot.....
>
> Slowcooker? Why bother soaking?

Because I enjoy using it as the beneficial utensil it is. And last time I
made baked beans without soaking, the beans were too al dente for my tastes.
Live and learn.

The Ranger

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:21:55 -0800, "The Ranger"
> wrote:

>notbob > wrote in message
...
>> On 2009-02-19, The Ranger > wrote:
>
>>> Which beer? The stout or the IPA. Don't mix 'em. <shudder>
>>
>> You mix 15 beans but are repulsed at mixing beers (drank separately)?
>>
>Yes. I cannot tell you the different beans or anything other than the soup
>tasted great. Drinking the two beers, even seperately, is like mixing wine.
>It is done but I prefer enjoying a single style with my food, regardless of
>where I'm dining.

I've had 15 bean soup (not yours), and loved it. Even Crash (an even
pickier eater than I) loved it.

Carol

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On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:04:41 +0100, Giusi wrote:

> "notbob" ha scritto nel messaggio The Ranger wrote:
>>
>>> 20 oz assorted dried beans (lima, navy, pinto, etc.)
>>
>>> Soak beans for at least 8 hours.....
>>
>>> In 5.5 quart crockpot.....
>>
>> Sorry, Range. Worst bean recipe I've ever run across.
>>
>>> Serve with hearty bread and an IPA or stout.
>>
>> Better yet, toss the beans and enjoy the beer.
>>
>> nb
>
> You need to elaborate, because there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with
> the recipe to my eyes, and I am not a beginner.

i'm not notbob, but...

i would shy away from the tomatoes, chili powder, and carrots, but only
because that, to me, is not bean soup. i'm sure it's good soup; i would
just call it something different. in bean soup, beans and ham should be
the stars.

but that's a theological discussion, much like 'what makes a proper chili.'

but maybe i'm all wet, since it's a 15-bean soup recipe and my thinking is
geared towards navy pea beans.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 06:19:18 -0800, The Ranger wrote:

> notbob > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2009-02-19, The Ranger > wrote:
>
>>> Serve with hearty bread and an IPA or stout.
>>
>> Better yet, toss the beans and enjoy the beer.
>
> Which beer? The stout or the IPA. Don't mix 'em. <shudder>
>
> The Ranger

many people in the u.k. do exactly that.

your pal,
blake

Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in message
...
[snip]
> I've had 15 bean soup (not yours), and loved it. Even Crash (an even
> pickier eater than I) loved it.

Yeah. nb's got TIA Syndrome going. I'll be adding that soup to Clan Ranger's
weekly rotation. It was easy to make and even easier to clean up after the
meal. I can understand him not wanting to do it, though. A 5.5 quart
crockpot would make more than he could consume at a single meal. It would
also create an issue with being too full to enjoy the high from his Bud Lite
Binge.

The Ranger

"blake murphy" > wrote :
>
> but maybe i'm all wet, since it's a 15-bean soup recipe and my thinking is
> geared towards navy pea beans.
>
I think this is true. What you say is true for navy bean soup, the beans
have a distinctive but delicate flavor. But for 15-bean, the spicier the
better. I use hot Italian sausage and cajun seasonings. I add a small can of
diced tomatoes or some salsa, too.

>
> METHOD:
> Soak beans for at least 8 hours in the 2 quarts of water. Discard soaking
> water.
>
> In 5.5 quart crockpot, layer carrots, onion, jalapeno, sausage, beans, and
> ham. Add chili powder; less if you don't like things spicy. Add lemon juice,
> stock and water. Season to taste.
>
> Set on low and leave alone for 6-10 hours or set on high and cook for 4-5
> hours.
>
> Serve with hearty bread and an IPA or stout.
>
> The Ranger

i also have a bag of the 15 beans in the freezer and this looks great.
thanks for posting this. i don't eat ham (too salty) but will try it
using smoked turkey legs and/or wings.

harriet & critters in azusa (everything from a to z in the usa...or so
they tell me)

blake murphy > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 06:19:18 -0800, The Ranger wrote:
>>>> Serve with hearty bread and an IPA or stout.
>>>
>>> Better yet, toss the beans and enjoy the beer.
>>
>> Which beer? The stout or the IPA. Don't mix 'em. <shudder>
>>
> many people in the u.k. do exactly that.

They also have crooked teeth...

The Ranger

blake murphy > wrote in message
...
[snip]
> i'm not notbob, but...
>
> i would shy away from the tomatoes, chili powder, and carrots, but only
> because that, to me, is not bean soup. i'm sure it's good soup; i would
> just call it something different. in bean soup, beans and ham should be
> the stars.

Agreed. I added the carrots because I like carrots. The tomatoes and chili
powder were added for bite and heat; it's not a sweet soup like navy bean or
some of the garbonzo bean soups.

> but that's a theological discussion, much like 'what makes a proper
> chili.'

You're in church; such discussions are always welcome!

> but maybe i'm all wet, since it's a 15-bean soup recipe and
> my thinking is geared towards navy pea beans.

It's been my experience that a sweetener is used in navy bean soup, or pea
soups, so the single bean stands out beyond texture. The ham is often an
after-thought, like in pea soup.

The Ranger

blake murphy > wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 06:19:18 -0800, The Ranger wrote:

>> Which beer? The stout or the IPA. Don't mix 'em. <shudder>

>many people in the u.k. do exactly that.

Not usually with an IPA, but with an ale, yes.

Steve

"blake murphy" ha scritto nel messaggio
Giusi wrote:
>
>> "notbob" ha scritto nel messaggio The Ranger wrote:
>>>
>>>> 20 oz assorted dried beans (lima, navy, pinto, etc.)

>>> Better yet, toss the beans and enjoy the beer.
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>> You need to elaborate, because there doesn't seem to be anything wrong
>> with
>> the recipe to my eyes, and I am not a beginner.
>
> i'm not notbob, but...
>
> i would shy away from the tomatoes, chili powder, and carrots, but only>
> because that, to me, is not bean soup. i'm sure it's good soup; i would>
> just call it something different. in bean soup, beans and ham should be>
> the stars.
> but maybe i'm all wet, since it's a 15-bean soup recipe and my thinking
> is> geared towards navy pea beans.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Your are wet. Every cold country has bean soup and they are all different!
Maybe chili-bean soup for this one or even veg chili. But what's wrong with
pasta e fagioli, which has no ham in it? Loads of bean soups are
vegetarian, many countries don't make smoked hams. Ranger offered a recipe
that sounds like it would make a tasty winter supper, so why does nb say
it's the worst bean recipe he's ever seen?

Giusi > wrote in message
...
[snip]
> Your are wet.

Guisi! Gotta love it! "You're all wet." You're English is better than my
Italian but that's not why I'm replying.

> Every cold country has bean soup and they are all different! Maybe
> chili-bean soup for this one or even veg chili. But
> what's wrong with pasta e fagioli, which has no ham in it? Loads of bean
> soups are vegetarian, many countries don't
> make smoked hams. Ranger offered a recipe that sounds
> like it would make a tasty winter supper, so why does nb
> say it's the worst bean recipe he's ever seen?

I'll help you out herer. nb loves seeing people rise to the surface after
his chumming the waters with such a provocatively simple piece of prose.

If he could tell the difference between two beans in a blind-tasting after
cooking, I'd be surprised.

But he has taken rfc into a new level of food-based discussion, something
Duh-Wayne, Sheldumb, and Petri wouldn't understand.

The Ranger

"Giusi" > wrote in message
...
> "blake murphy" ha scritto nel messaggio
> Giusi wrote:
>>
>>> "notbob" ha scritto nel messaggio The Ranger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 20 oz assorted dried beans (lima, navy, pinto, etc.)
>
>>>> Better yet, toss the beans and enjoy the beer.
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>
>>> You need to elaborate, because there doesn't seem to be anything wrong
>>> with
>>> the recipe to my eyes, and I am not a beginner.
>>
>> i'm not notbob, but...
>>
>> i would shy away from the tomatoes, chili powder, and carrots, but only>
>> because that, to me, is not bean soup. i'm sure it's good soup; i would>
>> just call it something different. in bean soup, beans and ham should be>
>> the stars.
>> but maybe i'm all wet, since it's a 15-bean soup recipe and my thinking
>> is> geared towards navy pea beans.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Your are wet. Every cold country has bean soup and they are all
> different! Maybe chili-bean soup for this one or even veg chili. But
> what's wrong with pasta e fagioli, which has no ham in it? Loads of bean
> soups are vegetarian, many countries don't make smoked hams. Ranger
> offered a recipe that sounds like it would make a tasty winter supper, so
> why does nb say it's the worst bean recipe he's ever seen?
>

because he's just a nasty old prick that's why!

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:04:41 +0100, Giusi wrote:
>
>> "notbob" ha scritto nel messaggio The Ranger wrote:
>>>
>>>> 20 oz assorted dried beans (lima, navy, pinto, etc.)
>>>
>>>> Soak beans for at least 8 hours.....
>>>
>>>> In 5.5 quart crockpot.....
>>>
>>> Sorry, Range. Worst bean recipe I've ever run across.
>>>
>>>> Serve with hearty bread and an IPA or stout.
>>>
>>> Better yet, toss the beans and enjoy the beer.
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>> You need to elaborate, because there doesn't seem to be anything wrong
>> with
>> the recipe to my eyes, and I am not a beginner.
>
> i'm not notbob, but...
>
> i would shy away from the tomatoes, chili powder, and carrots, but only
> because that, to me, is not bean soup. i'm sure it's good soup; i would
> just call it something different. in bean soup, beans and ham should be
> the stars.
>
> but that's a theological discussion, much like 'what makes a proper
> chili.'
>
> but maybe i'm all wet, since it's a 15-bean soup recipe and my thinking is
> geared towards navy pea beans.
>
> your pal,
> blake

What would you know... there are navy beans and there are pea beans but
there's no such thing as "navy pea beans"... stop making it up as you go
along... blake the fake.

There's no such thing as any one way to prepare bean soup. I can make
improvements to that soup (to my personal taste), I don't much care for bean
soups with more than one kind of bean, but that's me, but there is nothing
wrong with that soup... there are as many bean soup recipes as there are
people who cook bean soup.

The Ranger wrote:

> I'm convinced you couldn't pick out a lima bean from a pinto from a
> cranberry if you blind tasted either.

Hrm? I could make that distinction, and I bet there are plenty of other
people here who could.

Bob

Dan wrote:

> Besides, my other experience is that adding acid, like tomatoes, slows
> the cooking to a crawl. If I don't presoak or precook, we have crunchy
> beans.

That's my experience, too. If I made that recipe -- which does sound good to
me -- I'd keep the tomatoes and lemon juice out of it until the last
half-hour or so. And being a Son of the South, I'd serve it with cornbread.

Bob

Bob Terwilliger > wrote in message
...
> The Ranger wrote:

>> I'm convinced you couldn't pick out a lima bean from a pinto from a
>> cranberry if you blind tasted either.
>
> Hrm? I could make that distinction, and I bet there are plenty of other
> people here who could.

When there's a PRC, North and Central Prefectures, Cook-in, you're on.

The "Northern Prefecture" Ranger

Bob Terwilliger > wrote in message
...
> Dan wrote:

>> Besides, my other experience is that adding acid, like tomatoes,
>> slows the cooking to a crawl. If I don't presoak or precook,
>> we have crunchy beans.
>
> That's my experience, too. If I made that recipe -- which does
> sound good to me -- I'd keep the tomatoes and lemon juice
> out of it until the last half-hour or so. And being a Son of the
> South, I'd serve it with cornbread.

That'd been a good compliment, too, with honey butter or maybe even garlic
butter.

The Ranger

Christine wrote:

> Son of the South?
> I never knew that... Where did you grow up?

Florida: Lake Wales, Stuart, and Gainesville.

Bob

The Ranger wrote:

>> I'd serve it with cornbread.
>
> That'd been a good compliment, too, with honey butter or maybe even garlic
> butter.

Oh... You just reminded me of a TERRIBLE cornbread recipe which I posted
here some years ago just to show how terrible cornbread recipes could be
here in California.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.f...820688e5044464

Bob

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:21:23 -0800, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:

>Oh... You just reminded me of a TERRIBLE cornbread recipe which I posted
>here some years ago just to show how terrible cornbread recipes could be
>here in California.
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.f...820688e5044464

THAT is disturbing! Definitely not for the faint of heart.

Carol

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In article >,
"Giusi" > wrote:


> >> "notbob" ha scritto nel messaggio

> >>> Better yet, toss the beans and enjoy the beer.

> Your are wet. Every cold country has bean soup and they are all different!
> Maybe chili-bean soup for this one or even veg chili. But what's wrong with
> pasta e fagioli, which has no ham in it? Loads of bean soups are
> vegetarian, many countries don't make smoked hams. Ranger offered a recipe
> that sounds like it would make a tasty winter supper, so why does nb say
> it's the worst bean recipe he's ever seen?

If you had to move away from God's country (where I live and he used to
live) and move to nowhere, you'd be grumpy, too! I don't even know if
they have food where he lives!

:-)

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Giusi > wrote:

> Every cold country has bean soup and they are all different!

Some of the warmer countries, too. For example, there is the Armenian
lobahashu, red-bean soup with walnuts, and the almost identical Georgian
lobio soup. There is no meat of any kind there.

Victor

Bob Terwilliger > wrote in message
...

> Oh... You just reminded me of a TERRIBLE cornbread recipe which
> I posted here some years ago just to show how terrible cornbread
> recipes could be here in California.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.f...820688e5044464

Carpenter is a crank! That ain't co'nbread! I'm not sure what it is but it
ain't what he claims! Garlic? Tangerine peel?! Currants!
Sweetjeezuzcyin'onhiscrutch! WTF does he live?

The Ranger

In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> The Ranger wrote:
>
> >> I'd serve it with cornbread.
> >
> > That'd been a good compliment, too, with honey butter or maybe even garlic
> > butter.
>
> Oh... You just reminded me of a TERRIBLE cornbread recipe which I posted
> here some years ago just to show how terrible cornbread recipes could be
> here in California.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.f...820688e5044464

Needs some chopped jalapeno.

:-)

--
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Petaluma, California USA

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:06:28 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>15 different beans!? Diff beans have distinct flavors. This trashes that
>benefit.

Oh, fer cripe sake. It's obvious you've never even tried a 15 bean
soup. It's delicious.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On 2009-02-20, sf > wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:06:28 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>>15 different beans!? Diff beans have distinct flavors. This trashes that
>>benefit.
>
> Oh, fer cripe sake. It's obvious you've never even tried a 15 bean
> soup. It's delicious.

Which bean was the best?

nb

notbob > wrote in message
...
[snip]
> Which bean was the best?

Would you go to a symphony concert and only listen to one instrument? Why
would you limit that to others?

The dish was error-free and delicious. Unless you give it a try, your
baseless critisisms are less than an uniformed opinion.

The Ranger

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2009-02-20, sf > wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:06:28 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>
>>>15 different beans!? Diff beans have distinct flavors. This trashes
>>>that
>>>benefit.
>>
>> Oh, fer cripe sake. It's obvious you've never even tried a 15 bean
>> soup. It's delicious.
>
> Which bean was the best?
>
I love the giant ones that look like great northern but are far too big. And
black beans are always a really nice flavor. Lentils stand out from the mix,
too. I can taste all the different beans in the mix.

In article dth>,
"The Ranger" > wrote:

> notbob > wrote in message
> ...
> [snip]
> > Which bean was the best?
>
> Would you go to a symphony concert and only listen to one instrument? Why
> would you limit that to others?

Personally, that's a bad example. Symphonies sound like mush to me,
especially if you are playing in one.

> The dish was error-free and delicious. Unless you give it a try, your
> baseless critisisms are less than an uniformed opinion.

nb doesn't seem to want to let this one go, does he? Bean soups with
only one kind of bean in them are good. Bean soups with more than one
kind of bean in them are good. That's my personal opinion, and it's
worth what you just paid for it.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dan Abel > wrote in message
...
> In article dth>,
> "The Ranger" > wrote:
>> notbob > wrote in message
>> ...
>> [snip]
>> > Which bean was the best?
>>
>> Would you go to a symphony concert and only listen to one
>> instrument? Why would you limit that to others?
>
> Personally, that's a bad example. Symphonies sound like mush
> to me, especially if you are playing in one.

Pick your favorite metaphor then where joining multiple individual items
works towards a stronger end-result.

>> The dish was error-free and delicious. Unless you give it a try,
>> your baseless critisisms are less than an uniformed opinion.
>
> nb doesn't seem to want to let this one go, does he? Bean
> soups with only one kind of bean in them are good. Bean
> soups with more than one kind of bean in them are good.

My experience with single-bean soups is not as positive as yours but I'll
admit to not having experienced as much as you (yet).

> That's my personal opinion, and it's worth what you just paid for it.

So our gentleman's agreement prior is now null and void. 'K. That works for
me, too.

The Ranger