Hello All!

I think it's pretty well established that there are probably 3 reactions
to cilantro: great taste, no taste and soapy taste. A day or two ago the
notion was posted to have cilantro enthusiasts hold their noses while
eating it to establish whether it was taste or smell. Sorry, to the OP,
I can't find the post.

Well, I just tried and tho' I like cilantro, when I hold my nose it has
no taste or smell.

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On Feb 27, 1:32*pm, "James Silverton" >
wrote:
> Hello All!
>
> I think it's pretty well established that there are probably 3 reactions
> to cilantro: great taste, no taste and soapy taste. A day or two ago the
> notion was posted to have cilantro enthusiasts hold their noses while
> eating it to establish whether it was taste or smell. Sorry, to the OP,
> I can't find the post.
>
> Well, I just tried and tho' I like cilantro, when I hold my nose it has
> no taste or smell.

A few days ago, my husband (who has allergies and is frequently
congested) was making a dish that involved a brandy pan sauce
for beef tenderloin. It required a couple of tablespoons of minced
parsley. I walked into the kitchen just in time--the cutting board
was piled with cilantro.

I like cilantro, but that would have been just nasty.

Cindy Hamilton

"James Silverton" > wrote in news:MkWpl.41
:

> Hello All!
>
> I think it's pretty well established that there are probably 3 reactions
> to cilantro: great taste, no taste and soapy taste. A day or two ago the
> notion was posted to have cilantro enthusiasts hold their noses while
> eating it to establish whether it was taste or smell. Sorry, to the OP,
> I can't find the post.
>
> Well, I just tried and tho' I like cilantro, when I hold my nose it has
> no taste or smell.
>


It is a well known fact that if your olfactory senses are impaired, you
cannot taste anything.

Hence the reasoning behind holding ones nose when you have to eat/swallow
something that you *know* is going to taste awful.



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PeterLucas wrote on Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:21:11 +0000 (UTC):

>> Hello All!
>>
>> I think it's pretty well established that there are probably
>> 3 reactions to cilantro: great taste, no taste and soapy taste. A day
>> or two ago the notion was posted to have cilantro enthusiasts
>> hold their noses while eating it to establish whether it was
>> taste or smell. Sorry, to the OP, I can't find the post.
>>
>> Well, I just tried and tho' I like cilantro, when I hold my
>> nose it has no taste or smell.
>>
> It is a well known fact that if your olfactory senses are
> impaired, you cannot taste anything.

> Hence the reasoning behind holding ones nose when you have to
> eat/swallow something that you *know* is going to taste awful.

OK, it seems to be becoming apparent that cilantro has a "odor" that
some are genetically constrained to be unable to detect. Now I wonder
how the soapy taste arises?

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James Silverton wrote:
> PeterLucas wrote on Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:21:11 +0000 (UTC):
>
>>> Hello All!
>>>
>>> I think it's pretty well established that there are probably
>>> 3 reactions to cilantro: great taste, no taste and soapy taste. A day
>>> or two ago the notion was posted to have cilantro enthusiasts
>>> hold their noses while eating it to establish whether it was
>>> taste or smell. Sorry, to the OP, I can't find the post.
>>>
>>> Well, I just tried and tho' I like cilantro, when I hold my
>>> nose it has no taste or smell.
>>>
>> It is a well known fact that if your olfactory senses are
>> impaired, you cannot taste anything.
>
>> Hence the reasoning behind holding ones nose when you have to
>> eat/swallow something that you *know* is going to taste awful.
>
> OK, it seems to be becoming apparent that cilantro has a "odor" that
> some are genetically constrained to be unable to detect. Now I wonder
> how the soapy taste arises?
>

to me cilantro tastes like a moldy dish rag.

On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:32:12 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

>Well, I just tried and tho' I like cilantro, when I hold my nose it has
>no taste or smell.

Isn't most, if not all, taste actually smell?


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On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:01:52 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

>OK, it seems to be becoming apparent that cilantro has a "odor" that
>some are genetically constrained to be unable to detect. Now I wonder
>how the soapy taste arises?

genetics


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:01:52 GMT, "James Silverton"
> > wrote:
>
>>OK, it seems to be becoming apparent that cilantro has a "odor" that
>>some are genetically constrained to be unable to detect. Now I wonder
>>how the soapy taste arises?
>
> genetics
>
Isn't it also a matter of genetics wrt ones urine after eating asparagus? I
read somewhere that it's genetics don't determine whether or not the urine
stinks but the ability to smell that particular odour.

On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:45:03 -0700, "Boulanger" >
wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:01:52 GMT, "James Silverton"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>OK, it seems to be becoming apparent that cilantro has a "odor" that
>>>some are genetically constrained to be unable to detect. Now I wonder
>>>how the soapy taste arises?
>>
>> genetics
>>
>Isn't it also a matter of genetics wrt ones urine after eating asparagus? I
>read somewhere that it's genetics don't determine whether or not the urine
>stinks but the ability to smell that particular odour.
>
I think I read that here in rfc. I have no idea if it's true or not.


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On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:45:03 -0700, Boulanger wrote:

> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:01:52 GMT, "James Silverton"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>OK, it seems to be becoming apparent that cilantro has a "odor" that
>>>some are genetically constrained to be unable to detect. Now I wonder
>>>how the soapy taste arises?
>>
>> genetics
>>
> Isn't it also a matter of genetics wrt ones urine after eating asparagus? I
> read somewhere that it's genetics don't determine whether or not the urine
> stinks but the ability to smell that particular odour.

as i recall, it's both. there are individuals whose urine don't stink (so
to speak) but can smell the asparagus taint produced by others:

The good news is that asparagus does not affect everyone. Studies conducted
on the "asparagus urine" phenomenon (aren't you glad you didn't volunteer!)
indicate that roughly 40 to 50 percent of those tested developed the
distinctive odor. Surprisingly enough, there is also a segment of the
population who cannot smell the sulphurous fumes of asparagus-laced urine.
It is believed that both the generation of the odoriferous urine and the
ability to smell it are based on genetics. Only those with a certain gene
can break down the chemicals inside the asparagus into their smelly
components, and only those with the proper gene can smell the results of
that chemical breakdown.

<http://www.wisegeek.com/why-does-asp...mell-funny.htm

your pal,
blake

On Feb 27, 1:32 pm, "James Silverton" >
wrote:
> Hello All!
>
> I think it's pretty well established that there are probably 3 reactions
> to cilantro: great taste, no taste and soapy taste. A day or two ago the
> notion was posted to have cilantro enthusiasts hold their noses while
> eating it to establish whether it was taste or smell. Sorry, to the OP,
> I can't find the post.
>
> Well, I just tried and tho' I like cilantro, when I hold my nose it has
> no taste or smell.
>
> --
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
> Email, with obvious alterations:
> not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

OK. So it is genetic. What is the point? Are cilantro preference
and asparagus (and for that matter, artichoke) pee and smelling issues
just random irrelevancies, like eye color? Do you think there is a
Darwinian survival value to tasting cialntro or not?

B

Aroundabouts Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:21:11 +0000, PeterLucas reckoned:

>
> It is a well known fact that if your olfactory senses are impaired, you
> cannot taste anything.

If it's a "well known fact"... why are you repeating it?

> Hence the reasoning behind holding ones nose when you have to
> eat/swallow something that you *know* is going to taste awful.

I bet you dad pinched your nose *real tight* until you learned to like
it... "Son, that ain't mayonaise!!"


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In article >, blake murphy > wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:45:03 -0700, Boulanger wrote:
[snip]
>> Isn't it also a matter of genetics wrt ones urine after eating asparagus?
[...]>
>It is believed that both the generation of the odoriferous urine and the
>ability to smell it are based on genetics. Only those with a certain gene
>can break down the chemicals inside the asparagus into their smelly
>components, and only those with the proper gene can smell the results of
>that chemical breakdown.

I can do both. Guess I'm special (as I always knew 8-).

Addendum: Mate of mine reckons cilantro tastes like squashed bugs
(but I don't know how he goes with asparagus .


Cheers, Phred.

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Phred wrote on Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:33:26 GMT:

> In article >, blake
> murphy > wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:45:03 -0700, Boulanger wrote:
> [snip]
>>> Isn't it also a matter of genetics wrt ones urine after
>>> eating asparagus?
> [...]>
>> It is believed that both the generation of the odoriferous
>> urine and the ability to smell it are based on genetics. Only
>> those with a certain gene can break down the chemicals inside
>> the asparagus into their smelly components, and only those
>> with the proper gene can smell the results of that chemical
>> breakdown.

> I can do both. Guess I'm special (as I always knew 8-).

> Addendum: Mate of mine reckons cilantro tastes like squashed bugs
> (but I don't know how he goes with asparagus .

That friend reminds me of one the great universal questions: when did
your friend eat squashed bugs and when did other posters eat excrement?


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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:00:33 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

> Phred wrote on Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:33:26 GMT:
>
>> Addendum: Mate of mine reckons cilantro tastes like squashed bugs
>> (but I don't know how he goes with asparagus .
>
>That friend reminds me of one the great universal questions: when did
>your friend eat squashed bugs and when did other posters eat excrement?

ROFLMAO!!! I think that some of it can be attributted to the
connection between taste and smell. My asthma inhaler tastes like
Elmer's glue, although I've never tasted the glue, just smelled it.

Carol

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In article >, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not> wrote:
[snip]
>That friend reminds me of one the great universal questions: when did
>your friend eat squashed bugs

You've never lived in the tropics?

>and when did other posters eat excrement?

We *all* eat shit at some time in life when the pollies get at us.


Cheers, Phred.

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LID

Phred wrote:

>> It is believed that both the generation of the odoriferous urine and the
>> ability to smell it are based on genetics. Only those with a certain gene
>> can break down the chemicals inside the asparagus into their smelly
>> components, and only those with the proper gene can smell the results of
>> that chemical breakdown.
>
> I can do both. Guess I'm special (as I always knew 8-).
>
> Addendum: Mate of mine reckons cilantro tastes like squashed bugs
> (but I don't know how he goes with asparagus .

I suppose that is like saying that something tastes like shit. What they
probably mean is that it is what they imagine squashed bugs or shit
taste like, without a real basis of comparison.... I hope.

"Phred" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>>On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:45:03 -0700, Boulanger wrote:
> [snip]
>>> Isn't it also a matter of genetics wrt ones urine after eating
>>> asparagus?
> [...]>
>>It is believed that both the generation of the odoriferous urine and the
>>ability to smell it are based on genetics. Only those with a certain gene
>>can break down the chemicals inside the asparagus into their smelly
>>components, and only those with the proper gene can smell the results of
>>that chemical breakdown.


My father had urinary bladder cancer that led to an ostomy. The nurse who
gave him discharge instructions SPECIFICALLY told him that eating asparagus
would "give him a urine odor worse than dog ****." Not sure about all the
chemistry, and science, but just my experience, and a couple of peanuts,
too.

Steve

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:00:33 GMT, James Silverton wrote:

> Phred wrote on Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:33:26 GMT:
>
>> Addendum: Mate of mine reckons cilantro tastes like squashed bugs
>> (but I don't know how he goes with asparagus .
>
> That friend reminds me of one the great universal questions: when did
> your friend eat squashed bugs and when did other posters eat excrement?

it was either in their extreme youth or possibly alcohol was a factor.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:10:50 -0600, Damsel in dis Dress wrote:

> On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:00:33 GMT, "James Silverton"
> > wrote:
>
>> Phred wrote on Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:33:26 GMT:
>>
>>> Addendum: Mate of mine reckons cilantro tastes like squashed bugs
>>> (but I don't know how he goes with asparagus .
>>
>>That friend reminds me of one the great universal questions: when did
>>your friend eat squashed bugs and when did other posters eat excrement?
>
> ROFLMAO!!! I think that some of it can be attributted to the
> connection between taste and smell. My asthma inhaler tastes like
> Elmer's glue, although I've never tasted the glue, just smelled it.
>
> Carol

it tastes like chicken.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:22:06 GMT, Phred wrote:

> In article >, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not> wrote:
> [snip]
>>That friend reminds me of one the great universal questions: when did
>>your friend eat squashed bugs
>
> You've never lived in the tropics?
>
>>and when did other posters eat excrement?
>
> We *all* eat shit at some time in life when the pollies get at us.
>
> Cheers, Phred.

maybe you've heard this saying even down there in the antipodes: life is
like a shit sandwich - the more bread you have, the less shit you gotta
eat.

your pal,
blake

In article >, blake murphy > wrote:
>On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:22:06 GMT, Phred wrote:
>
>> In article >, "James Silverton"
> <not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not> wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>That friend reminds me of one the great universal questions: when did
>>>your friend eat squashed bugs
>>
>> You've never lived in the tropics?
>>
>>>and when did other posters eat excrement?
>>
>> We *all* eat shit at some time in life when the pollies get at us.
>
>maybe you've heard this saying even down there in the antipodes: life is
>like a shit sandwich - the more bread you have, the less shit you gotta
>eat.

That little gem of economic insight has indeed infiltrated memory
banks here in the deep north of the deep south. Now, pass the crap!:-)

ObFood: Finally got around to my biennial defrost of the fridge
freezer last Sunday. Only took about 6 hours for the iceberg to
dislodge too.

Found some rump steak in the back of the unit. The zip-lock pack was
dated 6 Jan 2007. I've got a piece defrosting at the moment. It
*looks* okay (still a good colour and no obvious freezer burn) and if
it passes the smell test I'm going to chuck it in the frying pan and
see what it tastes like when cooked. (I do have a reserve option for
dinner though.

If I'm still here tomorrow, and if I remember, I'll report results.
In the meantime, as it seems likely I already have some crap at my
end, you needn't bother with my request for the moment thank you. :-)

Cheers, Phred.

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In article >, (Phred) wrote:
[snip]
>ObFood: Finally got around to my biennial defrost of the fridge
>freezer last Sunday. Only took about 6 hours for the iceberg to
>dislodge too.
>
>Found some rump steak in the back of the unit. The zip-lock pack was
>dated 6 Jan 2007. I've got a piece defrosting at the moment. It
>*looks* okay (still a good colour and no obvious freezer burn) and if
>it passes the smell test I'm going to chuck it in the frying pan and
>see what it tastes like when cooked. (I do have a reserve option for
>dinner though.
>
>If I'm still here tomorrow, and if I remember, I'll report results.
>In the meantime, as it seems likely I already have some crap at my
>end, you needn't bother with my request for the moment thank you. :-)

Well, I'm still here; but I confess it's not as a result of eating
that "aged" rump. In fact I chickened out.

Once defrosted it didn't actually smell bad (just a bit "stale"), but
the defrosting didn't improve its appearance one bit. So that piece
and its remaining cohorts are destined for a mate's dog. (I'm still
not quite so destitute that I *need* to eat stuff like that! :-)

Cheers, Phred.

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LID