Having spent nine lovely days in The Most Liveable City
in the World, and two more in beautiful Sechelt, I'm
about to fly home with my prized four jars of rose harissa.
(Down from five, we consumed one.)

Technically, I could take them in my carry-on luggage,
since each jar is 90 grams and the carry-on limit on liquids /
gels / pastes is 100 ml in Canada. But I still think they might
not approve of my harissa at airport security.

The safer alternative is to put them in checked luggage;
but I don't normally check any luggage, and if United
loses it I'm out not just the harissa, but a bunch
of other possessions as well.

This is a no win situation but I think I'm leaning towards
placing them into checked luggage.

Steve

Steve Pope wrote:
>
> Having spent nine lovely days in The Most Liveable City
> in the World, and two more in beautiful Sechelt, I'm
> about to fly home with my prized four jars of rose harissa.
> (Down from five, we consumed one.)
>
> Technically, I could take them in my carry-on luggage,
> since each jar is 90 grams and the carry-on limit on liquids /
> gels / pastes is 100 ml in Canada. But I still think they might
> not approve of my harissa at airport security.
>
> The safer alternative is to put them in checked luggage;
> but I don't normally check any luggage, and if United
> loses it I'm out not just the harissa, but a bunch
> of other possessions as well.
>
> This is a no win situation but I think I'm leaning towards
> placing them into checked luggage.
>
> Steve

Could you have the the jars shipped, even if at a bit (or more?) of
extra cost minus the inconvenience might work out better than trying to
go the 'air' route? Just a thought . . . . ?

Sky

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice

Sky > wrote:

>Steve Pope wrote:

>> Having spent nine lovely days in The Most Liveable City
>> in the World, and two more in beautiful Sechelt, I'm
>> about to fly home with my prized four jars of rose harissa.
>> (Down from five, we consumed one.)
>>
>> Technically, I could take them in my carry-on luggage,
>> since each jar is 90 grams and the carry-on limit on liquids /
>> gels / pastes is 100 ml in Canada. But I still think they might
>> not approve of my harissa at airport security.
>>
>> The safer alternative is to put them in checked luggage;
>> but I don't normally check any luggage, and if United
>> loses it I'm out not just the harissa, but a bunch
>> of other possessions as well.

>> This is a no win situation but I think I'm leaning towards
>> placing them into checked luggage.

>Could you have the the jars shipped, even if at a bit (or more?) of
>extra cost minus the inconvenience might work out better than trying to
>go the 'air' route? Just a thought . . . . ?

We thought about that, mailing them back. It's a concept.
But if we do the checked luggage route, we could take back
a couple bottles of B.C. Pinot Noir as well.

S.
>
>Sky
>
>--
>Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
>Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice

"Sky" > wrote in message
> Could you have the the jars shipped, even if at a bit (or more?) of
> extra cost minus the inconvenience might work out better than trying to
> go the 'air' route? Just a thought . . . . ?

I've heard many stories of shipped goodies never arriving. I'd trust the
baggage handlers before the foreign postal services.

"Mort Adella" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Sky" > wrote in message
>> Could you have the the jars shipped, even if at a bit (or more?) of
>> extra cost minus the inconvenience might work out better than trying to
>> go the 'air' route? Just a thought . . . . ?
>
> I've heard many stories of shipped goodies never arriving. I'd trust the
> baggage handlers before the foreign postal services.

Had personal experience with mailed items twice. Once Scotland, once Italy.
I'm still waiting for olive oil and smoked salmon. I take mine in checked
baggage now.

Mort Adella wrote:

> "Sky" > wrote in message
>
>>Could you have the the jars shipped, even if at a bit (or more?) of
>>extra cost minus the inconvenience might work out better than trying to
>>go the 'air' route? Just a thought . . . . ?
>
>
> I've heard many stories of shipped goodies never arriving. I'd trust the
> baggage handlers before the foreign postal services.
>
>

Unless they're the baggage handlers who helped themselves to our dive
knives on our last scuba trip to Cozumel.

Or the baggage handlers who broke both bottles of coconut rum we were
bringing back from the Bahamas.

In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> Having spent nine lovely days in The Most Liveable City
> in the World, and two more in beautiful Sechelt, I'm
> about to fly home with my prized four jars of rose harissa.
> (Down from five, we consumed one.)
>
> Technically, I could take them in my carry-on luggage,
> since each jar is 90 grams and the carry-on limit on liquids /
> gels / pastes is 100 ml in Canada. But I still think they might
> not approve of my harissa at airport security.
>
> The safer alternative is to put them in checked luggage;
> but I don't normally check any luggage, and if United
> loses it I'm out not just the harissa, but a bunch
> of other possessions as well.
>
> This is a no win situation but I think I'm leaning towards
> placing them into checked luggage.

For that sort of thing, it be fare easier and safer to package up those
jars and mail them to yourself.

In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> Having spent nine lovely days in The Most Liveable City
> in the World, and two more in beautiful Sechelt, I'm
> about to fly home with my prized four jars of rose harissa.
> (Down from five, we consumed one.)
>
> Technically, I could take them in my carry-on luggage,
> since each jar is 90 grams and the carry-on limit on liquids /
> gels / pastes is 100 ml in Canada. But I still think they might
> not approve of my harissa at airport security.
>
> The safer alternative is to put them in checked luggage;
> but I don't normally check any luggage, and if United
> loses it I'm out not just the harissa, but a bunch
> of other possessions as well.
>
> This is a no win situation but I think I'm leaning towards
> placing them into checked luggage.
>
> Steve

Absolutely!! I would not chance losing your treasure. Pack them well
and put them in a box and check it through as luggage. I hope you won't
get charged $25 for it. Happened to me with some perfume.

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - pot pie
"What you say about someone else says more
about you than it does about the other person."

In article >,
Kathleen > wrote:

> Mort Adella wrote:
>
> > I've heard many stories of shipped goodies never arriving. I'd trust the
> > baggage handlers before the foreign postal services.

> Or the baggage handlers who broke both bottles of coconut rum we were
> bringing back from the Bahamas.

:-( To me, the rum breakage is the result of poor packing. I could be
wrong. I brought five bottles of olive oil in my suitcase from Italy
and Rob brought a couple bottles of wine in his. I went over there with
bubble wrap and plastic bags and all was well. They were well cushioned
by various bits of clothing -- roll the bottles into the clothing. I
always put a note on top saying what's in there and would they please be
careful if they open the suitcase.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - pot pie
"What you say about someone else says more
about you than it does about the other person."

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> Kathleen > wrote:
>
>
>>Mort Adella wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I've heard many stories of shipped goodies never arriving. I'd trust the
>>>baggage handlers before the foreign postal services.
>
>
>>Or the baggage handlers who broke both bottles of coconut rum we were
>>bringing back from the Bahamas.
>
>
> :-( To me, the rum breakage is the result of poor packing. I could be
> wrong. I brought five bottles of olive oil in my suitcase from Italy
> and Rob brought a couple bottles of wine in his. I went over there with
> bubble wrap and plastic bags and all was well. They were well cushioned
> by various bits of clothing -- roll the bottles into the clothing. I
> always put a note on top saying what's in there and would they please be
> careful if they open the suitcase.

Yeah. The rum was well wrapped in bubble wrap, taped, and cushioned by
multiple layers of clothing. I'd have sworn a gorilla could have
jumped up and down on the case without causing a problem. At least the
packaging kept the shards of glass contained.

And the theft of the dive knives was simply infuriating. Can't lock
your bags so any bozo can simply help himself to anything that strikes
his fancy...

"Kathleen" > wrote in message
> And the theft of the dive knives was simply infuriating. Can't lock your
> bags so any bozo can simply help himself to anything that strikes his
> fancy...
>

Yes, you can lock your bags with a TSA approved lock. Look for them at any
place that sells luggage or even Wal Mart.

Steve Pope wrote:
> Having spent nine lovely days in The Most Liveable City
> in the World, and two more in beautiful Sechelt, I'm
> about to fly home with my prized four jars of rose harissa.
> (Down from five, we consumed one.)
>
> Technically, I could take them in my carry-on luggage,
> since each jar is 90 grams and the carry-on limit on liquids /
> gels / pastes is 100 ml in Canada. But I still think they might
> not approve of my harissa at airport security.
>
> The safer alternative is to put them in checked luggage;
> but I don't normally check any luggage, and if United
> loses it I'm out not just the harissa, but a bunch
> of other possessions as well.
>
> This is a no win situation but I think I'm leaning towards
> placing them into checked luggage.


To avoid a lot of hassles I would stick them in the checked luggage.
Airport security rules are ridiculous these days. Considering the risks
these days, thanks to members of certain groups, I tend to support the
pre-cautions, though IMO they are rendered useless by their reluctance
to profile certain groups,but that is another story.

When I flew to Europe last summer we took some local wines, ice wines
and maple syrup. We put them in plastic bags in case of breakage, and
kept them well cushioned.

We would have picked up more duty free booze if it were not for the
extreme measures. You can buy duty free liquor on departure as long as
you are making a direct flight, but if you have to make a connection you
cannot take the duty free in your carry-on unless you got it at that
airport. In our case, we were flying from Toronto to Tallinn, Estonia
and had to make a connection at Schipol. We could have taken something
from Toronto to Schipol, but would then be unable to take it from
Schipol to Tallinn.

Mort Adella wrote:
> "Sky" > wrote in message
>> Could you have the the jars shipped, even if at a bit (or more?) of
>> extra cost minus the inconvenience might work out better than trying to
>> go the 'air' route? Just a thought . . . . ?
>
> I've heard many stories of shipped goodies never arriving. I'd trust the
> baggage handlers before the foreign postal services.


Shipping things can be very expensive if you want fast and reliable
service. The more affordable modes can be slow. My wife sent a
Christmas parcel to our niece and her family in Estonia. Since the
parcel included maple syrup and books it was fairly heavy and she opted
for the slower service, which was supposed to take 6-8 weeks. She sent
it the first week of November, hoping it would arrive in time for
Christmas. It did not get there until mid February.

Dave Smith wrote:
> Steve Pope wrote:
snip
>> Technically, I could take them in my carry-on luggage, since each jar
>> is 90 grams and the carry-on limit on liquids /
>> gels / pastes is 100 ml in Canada. But I still think they might
>> not approve of my harissa at airport security.
>> The safer alternative is to put them in checked luggage;
>> but I don't normally check any luggage, and if United
>> loses it I'm out not just the harissa, but a bunch
>> of other possessions as well.
>>
>> This is a no win situation but I think I'm leaning towards
>> placing them into checked luggage.
>
>
Step 1
Obtain either the cardboard outers that fine Whisky or wines come in

Or post pack tubes for posting plans documents etc

2 ensure tube fits inside checked luggage


3 obtain some rubber or styrene foam

4 pack the little jars in tubes with rubber between lids and next jars
bottom


5 ensure not dangerous goods
pack in bag fly with mind at ease


If after all this in the Unlikely event
that something does get broken check at airport before you head home


go to airline service desk and make a claim
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Convention

You will be covered I assure you
Even if on a non IATA member Carrier

More data: allegedly as a United Premier member, the $15 checked
baggage fee is waived. Were this not the case I would not
consider checking.

Steve

In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> Having spent nine lovely days in The Most Liveable City
> in the World, and two more in beautiful Sechelt, I'm
> about to fly home with my prized four jars of rose harissa.
> (Down from five, we consumed one.)
>
> Technically, I could take them in my carry-on luggage,
> since each jar is 90 grams and the carry-on limit on liquids /
> gels / pastes is 100 ml in Canada. But I still think they might
> not approve of my harissa at airport security.
>
> The safer alternative is to put them in checked luggage;
> but I don't normally check any luggage, and if United
> loses it I'm out not just the harissa, but a bunch
> of other possessions as well.
>
> This is a no win situation but I think I'm leaning towards
> placing them into checked luggage.

I would recommend buying another piece of luggage. You should be able
to get something small very cheaply, and you may have a use for it in
the future. Decide which one to check, and put your wine, harissa and
items of clothing that you aren't attached to in there (the clothing
will be the padding, in case you can't find more appropriate packing
material). Keep your valuables in your carry on.

I liked Barb's idea of a box, but I suspect that the more layers of
strapping tape and string you put on, the more the security people will
want to see what you are hiding, and I have no confidence that they will
pack it back up the same way.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

In article >,
Kathleen > wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> > :-( To me, the rum breakage is the result of poor packing. I could be
> > wrong. I brought five bottles of olive oil in my suitcase from Italy
> > and Rob brought a couple bottles of wine in his. I went over there with
> > bubble wrap and plastic bags and all was well. They were well cushioned
> > by various bits of clothing -- roll the bottles into the clothing. I
> > always put a note on top saying what's in there and would they please be
> > careful if they open the suitcase.
>
> Yeah. The rum was well wrapped in bubble wrap, taped, and cushioned by
> multiple layers of clothing.

Guess that shoots my comments all to hell. :-)

> I'd have sworn a gorilla could have jumped up and down on the case
> without causing a problem. At least the packaging kept the shards of
> glass contained.

Bastids! Sorry for your bad luck.

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - pot pie
"What you say about someone else says more
about you than it does about the other person."
RIP, Ivan, Mary, and Shirley. You and the other all died way
too young in the small-plane crash, March 17, 1968, Rapid City, South
Dakota

Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> In article >,
> Kathleen > wrote:
>
>
>>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
>
>>>:-( To me, the rum breakage is the result of poor packing. I could be
>>>wrong. I brought five bottles of olive oil in my suitcase from Italy
>>>and Rob brought a couple bottles of wine in his. I went over there with
>>>bubble wrap and plastic bags and all was well. They were well cushioned
>>>by various bits of clothing -- roll the bottles into the clothing. I
>>>always put a note on top saying what's in there and would they please be
>>>careful if they open the suitcase.
>>
>>Yeah. The rum was well wrapped in bubble wrap, taped, and cushioned by
>> multiple layers of clothing.
>
>
> Guess that shoots my comments all to hell. :-)
>
>
>>I'd have sworn a gorilla could have jumped up and down on the case
>>without causing a problem. At least the packaging kept the shards of
>>glass contained.
>
>
> Bastids! Sorry for your bad luck.
>

Me too. And that suitcase still smells like an Almond Joy bar.

Dan Abel > wrote:

>I would recommend buying another piece of luggage. You should be able
>to get something small very cheaply, and you may have a use for it in
>the future. Decide which one to check, and put your wine, harissa and
>items of clothing that you aren't attached to in there (the clothing
>will be the padding, in case you can't find more appropriate packing
>material). Keep your valuables in your carry on.

This is essentially what I did; I happened to be already traveling
with a cheap ($30) piece of rolling luggage, and into it when
the above items. As it happened, United failed to lose my
luggage and everything is home safely.

The wine shop (Liberty, on Robson) even had placed some bubble wrap
around our wine for us. The whole experience was almost too
efficient.

Steve