As most of us globally have to tighten our belts what favourite budget
recipes do you have?

mine is 'everything with rice'
10kg rice @ $12.00 (bulk buy kept in sealed container)
plus powdered soup (eg French onion) 45c and leftovers!)

Baked beans on toast

Can anyone please stretch my imagination?

Linda the uncreative!

On Mon 23 Mar 2009 08:03:32p, Linda told us...

> As most of us globally have to tighten our belts what favourite budget
> recipes do you have?
>
> mine is 'everything with rice'
> 10kg rice @ $12.00 (bulk buy kept in sealed container)
> plus powdered soup (eg French onion) 45c and leftovers!)
>
> Baked beans on toast
>
> Can anyone please stretch my imagination?
>
> Linda the uncreative!

We haven't changed so much what we eat as we have to how we buy it. We try
to only buy meats when in bulk packages and at reduced prices, then
repackage for the freezer. Farmer's markets are usually a good deal for
fresh vegetables and fruits, otherwise I look for sales on frozen
vegetables. We do eat a bit more rice than we used to, but since we're
both diabetic, we have to watch how much and how often. The same with
pasta. We don't usually buy convenience foods, and I cook dinner at least
6 nights a week. We pack lunches for work instead of eating out. I make
soups, stews, chili, etc., with leftovers for the freezer in mind. Rice,
beans, flour, sugar, nuts, dried fruits, etc., we buy from the bulk bins.

Can't really offer you any specific recipes, as I cook pretty much the same
things I always have. The real trick for us is judicious purchasing, and
minimizing restaurant visits.

--
Wayne Boatwright

"One man's meat is another man's poison"
- Oswald Dykes, English writer, 1709.

In article <49c84e21$0$4020$a369bfa1@exi-reader>,
"Linda" > wrote:

> As most of us globally have to tighten our belts what favourite budget
> recipes do you have?
>
> mine is 'everything with rice'
> 10kg rice @ $12.00 (bulk buy kept in sealed container)
> plus powdered soup (eg French onion) 45c and leftovers!)
>
> Baked beans on toast

You can serve a boatload of things on toast with a white sauce which is
basically two tablespoons flour and two tablespoons butter and enough
milk to make what you want thick or thin enough. You can add damned
near anything already cooked to the sauce. Bacon, beef, shrimp, chicken,
pork, hot dogs, vegetables, your hearts desire. Or you can serve all
that over noodles of your choice. Or over rice.
Buy dry goods in bulk (rice as you have already, beans, flour, anything
else you can).
Look up bechamel (white sauce) here
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Béchamel_sauce> although they use fancy
names, melt the butter, add the flour and blend them together in a
skillet. Then add about a cup of milk and whisk until thickened when the
mixture starts to boil over medium heat. The mixture has to get very hot
or it won't thicken. If it's too thick add more milk. You get good at
this after a couple of tries. I never scald the milk beforehand and am
probably suffering imperfect white sauce because of it. My white sauce
tastes fine.

leo

"Linda" > wrote in message
news:49c84e21$0$4020$a369bfa1@exi-reader...
> As most of us globally have to tighten our belts what favourite budget
> recipes do you have?
>
> mine is 'everything with rice'
> 10kg rice @ $12.00 (bulk buy kept in sealed container)
> plus powdered soup (eg French onion) 45c and leftovers!)
>
> Baked beans on toast
>
> Can anyone please stretch my imagination?
>
> Linda the uncreative!
>
PASTA!! We like egg noodles with spinach, butter, and parmesan cheese, whole
wheat angelhair with alfredo sauce (just cream and parm cheese or use the
jarred stuff when it is on sale) and broc, black beans simmered with lots of
fresh garlic and cumin and black pepper until they are nice and thick,
topped with shredded cheddar and served with white corn chips. Then there
are eggs, still the cheapest complete source of nutrition available.
Scrambled with salsa and cheese, whatever veggies you have and puffed up in
the oven under the broiler, boiled and mashed with mayo salt and pepper on
toast, deviled, etch. As for meat, I don't by anything that costs more than
$2 a pound any more, but both pork half loins and beef whole sirloin tips go
on sale regularly at that price. This week I noticed that split chicken
breasts are a buck a pound at Harris Teeter, I will stock up as much as I
can. I've always shopped this way.

Going cheaper, I love ramen noodles with just the packet of spices on them!
But the label shows so much fat and salt, I don't buy them any more. I use
whole wheat angel hair broken up in my faux Asian dishes.

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
5.250...
> On Mon 23 Mar 2009 08:03:32p, Linda told us...
>
>> As most of us globally have to tighten our belts what favourite budget
>> recipes do you have?
>>
>> mine is 'everything with rice'
>> 10kg rice @ $12.00 (bulk buy kept in sealed container)
>> plus powdered soup (eg French onion) 45c and leftovers!)
snip
> Can't really offer you any specific recipes, as I cook pretty much the
> same
> things I always have. The real trick for us is judicious purchasing, and
> minimizing restaurant visits.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
>
It isn't really recession cooking, but something we enjoy fairly often.
Rice cooked in chicken broth and mixed with multiple of any vegetable on
hand. An example would be sautéed celery, onion and carrot plus frozen
peas, corn and a can of mushrooms. For us it's tasty and filling and gives
us a break from too much meat.
Janet

Sorry, I don't have the original post, but I'll fill you in on what
I'm doing this week to stretch a dollar.

Bought a 14 pound turkey at $.99/pound and am making a standard turkey
dinner with it.

LEFTOVERS:

Turkey salad sandwiches made with mayo and various seasonings.

Jill's turkey cottage pie, if there is enough of everything left over.

Shred the leg and thigh meat and simmer in barbecue sauce, then serve
on buns.

Simmer the carcass and make soup with onions, celery, carrots,
seasonings, and homemade egg noodles.

All that for under $25.

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In article >,
Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:

> Sorry, I don't have the original post, but I'll fill you in on what
> I'm doing this week to stretch a dollar.
>
> Bought a 14 pound turkey at $.99/pound and am making a standard turkey
> dinner with it.
>
> LEFTOVERS:
>
> Turkey salad sandwiches made with mayo and various seasonings.
>
> Jill's turkey cottage pie, if there is enough of everything left over.
>
> Shred the leg and thigh meat and simmer in barbecue sauce, then serve
> on buns.
>
> Simmer the carcass and make soup with onions, celery, carrots,
> seasonings, and homemade egg noodles.
>
> All that for under $25.

Good plan. :-)
I stock up on turkeys sometimes when they are $.69 during the holidaze.
Cut up the legs, wings and thighs for later meals, debone the breast
meat (I made it into sausage last time I did this) and turn the breast
bones and backs into meaty stocks.

Fortunately, dad and I both happen to LOVE turkey...
--
Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.

"Linda" > wrote in message
news:49c84e21$0$4020$a369bfa1@exi-reader...
> As most of us globally have to tighten our belts what favourite budget
> recipes do you have?
>
> mine is 'everything with rice'
> 10kg rice @ $12.00 (bulk buy kept in sealed container)
> plus powdered soup (eg French onion) 45c and leftovers!)
>
> Baked beans on toast
>
> Can anyone please stretch my imagination?
>
> Linda the uncreative!

Beans & Rice

Mac & Cheese

Pasta marinara

Vegetable soup

Bean soup

Steamed or Zapped Veggie Platter with some cheese.

Omelets for dinner

Welch Rarebit

Chefs Salad

Baked Pasta

Meatloaf - increase the egg & oatmeal

Use a little MSG it will increase flavor.

Sticky rice and Chinese stir-fry

Dimitri

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:54:07 -0700, "Dimitri" >
wrote:

>Vegetable soup

Right in-between these goes Chili.

>Bean soup

Carol

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"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
...
>
> Sorry, I don't have the original post, but I'll fill you in on what
> I'm doing this week to stretch a dollar.
>
> Bought a 14 pound turkey at $.99/pound and am making a standard turkey
> dinner with it.
>
> LEFTOVERS:
>
> Turkey salad sandwiches made with mayo and various seasonings.
>
> Jill's turkey cottage pie, if there is enough of everything left over.
>
> Shred the leg and thigh meat and simmer in barbecue sauce, then serve
> on buns.
>
> Simmer the carcass and make soup with onions, celery, carrots,
> seasonings, and homemade egg noodles.
>
> All that for under $25.
>
> --
> Change "invalid" to JamesBond's agent number to reply.

I did a turkey dinner a week ago. The first, and second night, the
whole meal, the third night hot turkey sandwiches with veg and stuffing on
the side. The fourth night turkey soup and dumplings with enough soup to do
two more meals that got frozen for our camping trips. I like the idea of
shredding some of the leftovers for bbq style sandwiches too. I have some
meat left in the freezer that I was planning to use for a cottage pie, but
may do the sandwiches instead. There's just the two of us. It was a ten
pounder and was 1.00 a pound. I love that kind of a deal. I pinch pennies
all the time, so the "recession" didn't make a difference to us. We're
seniors on pensions, so don't have to worry about lay-offs for us, just for
our adult kids.....Sharon

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:44:13 -0400, "biig" > wrote:

> I did a turkey dinner a week ago. The first, and second night, the
>whole meal, the third night hot turkey sandwiches with veg and stuffing on
>the side. The fourth night turkey soup and dumplings with enough soup to do
>two more meals that got frozen for our camping trips. I like the idea of
>shredding some of the leftovers for bbq style sandwiches too. I have some
>meat left in the freezer that I was planning to use for a cottage pie, but
>may do the sandwiches instead. There's just the two of us. It was a ten
>pounder and was 1.00 a pound. I love that kind of a deal. I pinch pennies
>all the time, so the "recession" didn't make a difference to us. We're
>seniors on pensions, so don't have to worry about lay-offs for us, just for
>our adult kids.....Sharon

I'm trying to break out of the mindset that a turkey dinner has to be
expensive. We're going to skip most of the Thanksgiving side dishes,
so it won't be expensive at all. There is a gas station nearby that
sells potatoes, onions, and bananas for .39/pound, USD. Can hardly go
wrong with that! Ohhhhh, banana cream pie for dessert!

Carol

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"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:44:13 -0400, "biig" > wrote:
>
>> I did a turkey dinner a week ago. The first, and second night, the
>>whole meal, the third night hot turkey sandwiches with veg and stuffing on
>>the side. The fourth night turkey soup and dumplings with enough soup to
>>do
>>two more meals that got frozen for our camping trips. I like the idea of
>>shredding some of the leftovers for bbq style sandwiches too. I have some
>>meat left in the freezer that I was planning to use for a cottage pie, but
>>may do the sandwiches instead. There's just the two of us. It was a ten
>>pounder and was 1.00 a pound. I love that kind of a deal. I pinch
>>pennies
>>all the time, so the "recession" didn't make a difference to us. We're
>>seniors on pensions, so don't have to worry about lay-offs for us, just
>>for
>>our adult kids.....Sharon
>
> I'm trying to break out of the mindset that a turkey dinner has to be
> expensive. We're going to skip most of the Thanksgiving side dishes,
> so it won't be expensive at all. There is a gas station nearby that
> sells potatoes, onions, and bananas for .39/pound, USD. Can hardly go
> wrong with that! Ohhhhh, banana cream pie for dessert!
>
> Carol
>
Yes, we just had the basics, turkey, stuffing,mashed potatoes, gravy,
kernel corn, and cran. sauce. we don't often do dessert. That banana
cream pie sounds fabulous.....Sharon

On Mar 24, 5:40 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article >,
>
> "Dimitri" > wrote:
> > Welsh Rarebit
>
> Had to look that one up... It's a sauce recipe?
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
> It's about learning to dance in the rain.
> -- Anon.

Isn't Welsh Rarebit (or sometimes Rabbit) basicly bread with melted
cheese?

I had friend in school who was a bit of an activist. Met him at the
food co-op. He said he couldn't understand why people in civilized
countries were hungry, when, for the price of restaurant meal or a few
pieces of meat, they could by enough lintils and rice to eat for
weeks.

A related story and referencing another thread - An NPR story years
ago, about scavenging. The dumpster diver said people were on the
news demanding higher welfare payments because "our children deserve
candy, too." He watched this, muching on a 10lb bag of candy he'd
scored that afternoon.

On one hand, treat meat and expensive stuff as flavorings, not the
bulk of a meal. On the other, don't be afraid to budget then spurge
for some good things - oil, spices, cheese, meat. Even a dehydrator
(they're cheap) or freezer for stocking up in season. Inexpensive
food doesn't have to taste like gruel.

And Dimitri - Thank you, as one our sages, for saying something good
about MSG.

Bulka

On Mar 24, 3:13*pm,
>
> And Dimitri - Thank you, as one our sages, for saying something good
> about MSG.
>
> Bulka

hmmm...can't do anything with MSG...gives me a terrible headhache and
might give me cancer!

In article >,
"Dimitri" > wrote:

> Welsh Rarebit

Had to look that one up... It's a sauce recipe?
--
Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.

In article >,
Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:44:13 -0400, "biig" > wrote:
>
> > I did a turkey dinner a week ago. The first, and second night, the
> >whole meal, the third night hot turkey sandwiches with veg and stuffing on
> >the side. The fourth night turkey soup and dumplings with enough soup to do
> >two more meals that got frozen for our camping trips. I like the idea of
> >shredding some of the leftovers for bbq style sandwiches too. I have some
> >meat left in the freezer that I was planning to use for a cottage pie, but
> >may do the sandwiches instead. There's just the two of us. It was a ten
> >pounder and was 1.00 a pound. I love that kind of a deal. I pinch pennies
> >all the time, so the "recession" didn't make a difference to us. We're
> >seniors on pensions, so don't have to worry about lay-offs for us, just for
> >our adult kids.....Sharon
>
> I'm trying to break out of the mindset that a turkey dinner has to be
> expensive. We're going to skip most of the Thanksgiving side dishes,
> so it won't be expensive at all. There is a gas station nearby that
> sells potatoes, onions, and bananas for .39/pound, USD. Can hardly go
> wrong with that! Ohhhhh, banana cream pie for dessert!
>
> Carol

I like the way you think. :-)
--
Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:42:05 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to break out of the mindset that a turkey dinner has to be
>> expensive. We're going to skip most of the Thanksgiving side dishes,
>> so it won't be expensive at all. There is a gas station nearby that
>> sells potatoes, onions, and bananas for .39/pound, USD. Can hardly go
>> wrong with that! Ohhhhh, banana cream pie for dessert!
>>
>> Carol
>
>I like the way you think. :-)

The cheap meals part, or the banana cream pie part?

Carol

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On Mar 24, 5:13*pm, bulka > wrote:
> On Mar 24, 5:40 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
>
> > *"Dimitri" > wrote:
> > > Welsh Rarebit
>
> > Had to look that one up... It's a sauce recipe?
> > --
> > Peace! Om
>
> > Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
> > It's about learning to dance in the rain.
> > -- Anon.
>
> Isn't Welsh Rarebit (or sometimes Rabbit) basicly bread with melted
> cheese?
>
> I had friend in school who was a bit of an activist. *Met him at the
> food co-op. *He said he couldn't understand why people in civilized
> countries were hungry, when, for the price of restaurant meal or a few
> pieces of meat, they could by enough lintils and rice to eat for
> weeks.
>
> A related story and referencing another thread - An NPR story years
> ago, about scavenging. *The dumpster diver said people were on the
> news demanding higher welfare payments because "our children deserve
> candy, too." *He watched this, muching on a 10lb bag of candy he'd
> scored that *afternoon.
>
> On one hand, treat meat and expensive stuff as flavorings, not the
> bulk of a meal. *On the other, don't be afraid to budget then spurge
> for some good things - oil, spices, cheese, meat. *Even a dehydrator
> (they're cheap) *or freezer for stocking up in season. *Inexpensive
> food doesn't have to taste like gruel.
>
> And Dimitri - Thank you, as one our sages, for saying something good
> about MSG.

I use it occasionally, but boy, a little bit goes a long way. Most
people just use way too much of it when they use it. In a whole pot
of green beans with potatoes and crumbled bacon, I maybe add 1/8 t.

To crab rangoon, also only a tiny pinch.

Here's a recipe from the net:

Won Ton skins
1 can crabmeat
8-12 oz. cream cheese
A dash "Accent" seasoning

source-- http://www.cooks.com/rec/doc/0,1845,...249202,00.html

I omitted the sason salt that they called for, and the proportion of
crab to cream cheese is way high. Plus, I never use canned crab. The
amount in one 8" long crab leg will do for a whole package (8 oz.) of
cream cheese. You also need egg yolk to stick the wonton wrappers
together, Fry them in peanut oil.

You can also do a lobster rangoon.

>
> Bulka

--Bryan

In article >,
Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:42:05 -0600, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:
> >
> >> I'm trying to break out of the mindset that a turkey dinner has to be
> >> expensive. We're going to skip most of the Thanksgiving side dishes,
> >> so it won't be expensive at all. There is a gas station nearby that
> >> sells potatoes, onions, and bananas for .39/pound, USD. Can hardly go
> >> wrong with that! Ohhhhh, banana cream pie for dessert!
> >>
> >> Carol
> >
> >I like the way you think. :-)
>
> The cheap meals part, or the banana cream pie part?
>
> Carol

Both! <g>
That and saving on the side dishes stuff.

I never have spent a lot on those. A good steamed green of some kind,
sweet potatoes and/or mashed potatoes are generally pretty cheap to make?

I like to keep things simple!
--
Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.

On Mar 24, 5:07*pm, "biig" > wrote:
> "Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in messagenews:c0iis4t19m6pgbv5e4j21p1ahbmaf8fsts@4ax .com...
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:44:13 -0400, "biig" > wrote:
>
> >> * *I did a turkey dinner a week ago. *The first, and second night, the
> >>whole meal, the third night hot turkey sandwiches with veg and stuffing on
> >>the side. *The fourth night turkey soup and dumplings with enough soup to
> >>do
> >>two more meals that got frozen for our camping trips. *I like the idea of
> >>shredding some of the leftovers for bbq style sandwiches too. *I have some
> >>meat left in the freezer that I was planning to use for a cottage pie, but
> >>may do the sandwiches instead. *There's just the two of us. *It was a ten
> >>pounder and was 1.00 a pound. *I love that kind of a deal. *I pinch
> >>pennies
> >>all the time, so the "recession" didn't make a difference to us. *We're
> >>seniors on pensions, so don't have to worry about lay-offs for us, just
> >>for
> >>our adult kids.....Sharon
>
> > I'm trying to break out of the mindset that a turkey dinner has to be
> > expensive. *We're going to skip most of the Thanksgiving side dishes,
> > so it won't be expensive at all. *There is a gas station nearby that
> > sells potatoes, onions, and bananas for .39/pound, USD. *Can hardly go
> > wrong with that! * Ohhhhh, banana cream pie for dessert!
>
> > Carol
>
> * *Yes, we just had the basics, turkey, stuffing,mashed potatoes, gravy,
> kernel corn, and cran. sauce.

> .....Sharon
>
That right there is about my favorite meal. I adore turkey gravy.

--Bryan

"bulka" > wrote in message
...
> On Mar 24, 5:40 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>> In article >,
>>
>> "Dimitri" > wrote:
>
> And Dimitri - Thank you, as one our sages, for saying something good
> about MSG.
>
> Bulka

Hardly a sage but thanks.

I have a GIANT canister of Accent from Sam's - the amount of flavor it adds
is immeasurable. Soups, Stews, Hamburgers, sauces, reductions, places here
i need to reduce the salt and add flavor.

I use it quite often.

Personally I think the "allergy" to MSG is a myth invented by the "not
tonight dear I've got a headache crowd. :-)

One think I forget to mention -in these economic times - get an industrial
size canister of Adolph's Meat tenderizer. There is an old saying you can't
make a silk purse from a sow's ear but you can make an acceptably tender
steak from utility beef with a little Adolph's.

You just have to be careful not to use too much and turn the texture to
mush.


Dimitri

Dimitri wrote:
>

>
> Personally I think the "allergy" to MSG is a myth invented by the "not
> tonight dear I've got a headache crowd. :-)
>


You won't believe it until you've had it happen to you or
someone in your presence.
It's not really an allergy in the classic sense, but more of
a sensitivity reaction.

When I've been fed MSG in a restaurant (not necessarily
Chinese, either!)
I can tell within half an hour. My nose starts to run
profusely like the worst
head cold ever. It usually subsides within 2 hours, but
it's a horrible feeling.

gloria p

"Puester" > wrote in message
...
> Dimitri wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> Personally I think the "allergy" to MSG is a myth invented by the "not
>> tonight dear I've got a headache crowd. :-)
>>
>
>
> You won't believe it until you've had it happen to you or someone in your
> presence.
> It's not really an allergy in the classic sense, but more of a sensitivity
> reaction.
>
> When I've been fed MSG in a restaurant (not necessarily Chinese, either!)
> I can tell within half an hour. My nose starts to run profusely like the
> worst
> head cold ever. It usually subsides within 2 hours, but it's a horrible
> feeling.
>
> gloria p

I am not doubting that you have a reaction - I find the sensativity question
interesting since glutimate is in an amazing number of products and occures
naturally in many others.

See below.

Dimitri


What happens when you use soy sauce?

Same question:
Ramen Noodles?
Mushrooms?
Tomatoes?


One more place:

http://www.msgtruth.org/avoid.htm




http://www.ific.org/publications/brochures/msgbroch.cfm
MSG is not an allergen, according to the American College of Allergy, Asthma
and Immunology. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has found no evidence
to suggest any long-term, serious health consequences from consuming MSG. It
is possible that some people might be sensitive to MSG, just as to many
other foods and food ingredients. There are some reports that mild,
temporary reactions to MSG may occur in a small portion of the population,
based on tests with a large dose of MSG in the absence of food.

If you have questions about food sensitivities or allergies, contact a
board-certified allergist or your personal physician.


Glutamate Contents of Foods
Food SizeServing Glutamate(mg/serving)

Tomato juice 1 cup0.827
Tomato 3 slices0.339
Meat loaf dinner 9 oz.0.189
Human breast milk 1 cup0.176
Mushrooms 1/4 cup 0.094
Parmesan cheese 2Tbsp 0.047
Corn 1/2 cup0.031
Peas 1/2 cup0.024
Cow's milk 1 cup0.016
Canned tuna (in water)1/2 can0.008

"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote

> I'm trying to break out of the mindset that a turkey dinner has to be
> expensive. We're going to skip most of the Thanksgiving side dishes,
> so it won't be expensive at all. There is a gas station nearby that
> sells potatoes, onions, and bananas for .39/pound, USD. Can hardly go
> wrong with that! Ohhhhh, banana cream pie for dessert!


Way cool gas station. We can only get diesel fried chicken here in the
south.
Google "diesel fried chicken" for a chuckle.

TFM®

On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:14:20 -0700, Dimitri wrote:

> "bulka" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mar 24, 5:40 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>>
>>> "Dimitri" > wrote:
>>
>> And Dimitri - Thank you, as one our sages, for saying something good
>> about MSG.
>>
>> Bulka
>
> Hardly a sage but thanks.
>
> I have a GIANT canister of Accent from Sam's - the amount of flavor it adds
> is immeasurable. Soups, Stews, Hamburgers, sauces, reductions, places here
> i need to reduce the salt and add flavor.
>
> I use it quite often.
>
> Personally I think the "allergy" to MSG is a myth invented by the "not
> tonight dear I've got a headache crowd. :-)
>

i think the allergy is quite real in many people, but not as many who claim
it. but christ, you can't get away from it if you eat almost any
'processed' or 'commercial' food. if as many who claimed to be allergic
were, a third of the workforce would be out every day.

> One think I forget to mention -in these economic times - get an industrial
> size canister of Adolph's Meat tenderizer. There is an old saying you can't
> make a silk purse from a sow's ear but you can make an acceptably tender
> steak from utility beef with a little Adolph's.
>
> You just have to be careful not to use too much and turn the texture to
> mush.
>
> Dimitri

maybe i should look into this. the sticker shock for the better cuts is
starting (o.k., not just starting) to become appalling.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:05:43 -0700, Dimitri wrote:
>
> Glutamate Contents of Foods
> Food SizeServing Glutamate(mg/serving)
>
> Tomato juice 1 cup0.827
> Tomato 3 slices0.339
> Meat loaf dinner 9 oz.0.189
> Human breast milk 1 cup0.176

jesus, it must be the human breast milk that's making my nose run! thanks,
dimitri.

your pal,
blake

On Mar 26, 11:11*am, blake murphy > wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:14:20 -0700, Dimitri wrote:
> > "bulka" > wrote in message
> ....
> >> On Mar 24, 5:40 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> >>> In article >,
>
> >>> *"Dimitri" > wrote:
>
> >> And Dimitri - Thank you, as one our sages, for saying something good
> >> about MSG.
>
> >> Bulka
>
> > Hardly a sage but thanks.
>
> > I have a GIANT canister of Accent from Sam's - the amount of flavor it adds
> > is immeasurable. *Soups, Stews, Hamburgers, sauces, reductions, places here
> > i need to reduce the salt and add flavor.
>
> > I use it quite often.
>
> > Personally I think the "allergy" to MSG is a myth invented by the "not
> > tonight dear I've got a headache crowd. *:-)
>
> i think the allergy is quite real in many people, but not as many who claim
> it. *

I agree.

> but christ, you can't get away from it if you eat almost any
> 'processed' or 'commercial' food. *if as many who claimed to be allergic
> were, a third of the workforce would be out every day.

It is NOT in "almost any 'processed' or 'commercial' food."

Sure, Campbell's old fashioned condensed soups still uses it, as do
crappy TV dinners like Banquet, which also still uses hydrogenated
oils. I'd venture to say that the only things in this house that have
MSG are the Chili Man brand chili and the bottle of MSG.
>
> > One think I forget to mention -in these economic times - get an industrial
> > size canister of Adolph's Meat tenderizer. *There is an old saying you can't
> > make a silk purse from a sow's ear but you can make an acceptably tender
> > steak from utility beef with a little Adolph's.
>
> > You just have to be careful not to use too much and turn the texture to
> > mush.

For a stew, maybe that stuff is OK, but even a little makes the
texture of a steak worse than a little tough.
I don't keep it in the house. A BFH works better.
>
> > Dimitri
>
> maybe i should look into this. *the sticker shock for the better cuts is
> starting (o.k., not just starting) to become appalling.

USDA Choice T-Bones for $5.99/# is sticker shock?
>
> your pal,
> blake

--Bryan

On Mar 25, 1:05*pm, "Dimitri" > wrote:
> "Puester" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > Dimitri wrote:
>
> >> Personally I think the "allergy" to MSG is a myth invented by the "not
> >> tonight dear I've got a headache crowd. *:-)
>
> > You won't believe it until you've had it happen to you or someone in your
> > presence.
> > It's not really an allergy in the classic sense, but more of a sensitivity
> > reaction.
>
> > When I've been fed MSG in a restaurant (not necessarily Chinese, either!)
> > I can tell within half an hour. *My nose starts to run profusely like the
> > worst
> > head cold ever. *It usually subsides within 2 hours, but it's a horrible
> > feeling.
>
> > gloria p
>
> I am not doubting that you have a reaction - I find the sensativity question
> interesting since glutimate is in an amazing number of products and occures
> naturally in many others.
>
> See below.
>
> Dimitri
>
> What happens when you use soy sauce?
>
> Same question:
> Ramen Noodles?
> Mushrooms?
> Tomatoes?
>
> One more place:
>
> http://www.msgtruth.org/avoid.htm
>
> http://www.ific.org/publications/brochures/msgbroch.cfm
> MSG is not an allergen, according to the American College of Allergy, Asthma
> and Immunology. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has found no evidence
> to suggest any long-term, serious health consequences from consuming MSG. It
> is possible that some people might be sensitive to MSG, just as to many
> other foods and food ingredients. There are some reports that mild,
> temporary reactions to MSG may occur in a small portion of the population,
> based on tests with a large dose of MSG in the absence of food.
>
> If you have questions about food sensitivities or allergies, contact a
> board-certified allergist or your personal physician.
>
> Glutamate Contents of Foods
> Food SizeServing Glutamate(mg/serving)
>
> Tomato juice * * * * * * * *1 cup0.827
> Tomato * * * * * * * * * * * *3 slices0.339
> Meat loaf dinner * * * *9 oz.0.189
> Human breast milk * *1 cup0.176
> Mushrooms * *1/4 cup * * * * * *0.094
> Parmesan cheese * *2Tbsp * * * *0.047
> Corn * * * * * * * * * * * * * *1/2 cup0.031
> Peas * * * * * * * * * * * * * *1/2 cup0.024
> Cow's milk * * * * * * * * * *1 cup0.016
> Canned tuna (in water)1/2 can0.008

While I think that MSG sensitivity is totally blown out of proportion,
it may well be true that glutamic acid bound in a peptide chain may
well produce much subtler effects than the solitary sodium salt of
glutamic acid.

--Bryan

Linda wrote:
> As most of us globally have to tighten our belts what favourite budget
> recipes do you have?
>
> mine is 'everything with rice'
> 10kg rice @ $12.00 (bulk buy kept in sealed container)
> plus powdered soup (eg French onion) 45c and leftovers!)
>
> Baked beans on toast
>
> Can anyone please stretch my imagination?
>
> Linda the uncreative!
>


I do a lot of stirfrys using just a little bit of sausage and a whole
lot of sliced cabbage or frozen french-cut green beans. Add onions and
garlic and lots of hot peppers, and toss in some brown rice when it's
almost done. I can get 2 or 3 meals from a 1" slice of breakfast
sausage roll or a couple of slices of cheap salami.

If you like Hamburger Helper® and are put-off by the high cost of those
boxes, you can substitute a 35¢ box of generic macaroni & cheese (Aldi's
brand in the blue box is good) HTH :-)

Fried egg sandwich.

Big bowl of brown rice, can of sardines or kipper snacks, and a forkful
of your favorite Patak's curry paste.

Recession has little to do with it, I'm just cheap :-)
/Bob

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:44:13 -0400, "biig" > wrote:
>
>> I did a turkey dinner a week ago. The first, and second night, the
>> whole meal, the third night hot turkey sandwiches with veg and stuffing on
>> the side. The fourth night turkey soup and dumplings with enough soup to do
>> two more meals that got frozen for our camping trips. I like the idea of
>> shredding some of the leftovers for bbq style sandwiches too. I have some
>> meat left in the freezer that I was planning to use for a cottage pie, but
>> may do the sandwiches instead. There's just the two of us. It was a ten
>> pounder and was 1.00 a pound. I love that kind of a deal. I pinch pennies
>> all the time, so the "recession" didn't make a difference to us. We're
>> seniors on pensions, so don't have to worry about lay-offs for us, just for
>> our adult kids.....Sharon
>
> I'm trying to break out of the mindset that a turkey dinner has to be
> expensive. We're going to skip most of the Thanksgiving side dishes,
> so it won't be expensive at all. There is a gas station nearby that
> sells potatoes, onions, and bananas for .39/pound, USD. Can hardly go
> wrong with that! Ohhhhh, banana cream pie for dessert!
>
> Carol
>


Buy your apples at KwikTrip too. They are about half the cost of
Walmart for good Gala and Braeburns and Yellow Delicious. (you can keep
the Red Delicious and the stale underripe Granny Smiths :-P Yellow
Delicious is a surprisingly good cooking apple, even if they are
sometimes too soft to eat fresh.

Bob

blake murphy wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:05:43 -0700, Dimitri wrote:
> >
> > Glutamate Contents of Foods
> > Food SizeServing Glutamate(mg/serving)
> >
> > Tomato juice 1 cup0.827
> > Tomato 3 slices0.339
> > Meat loaf dinner 9 oz.0.189
> > Human breast milk 1 cup0.176
>
> jesus, it must be the human breast milk that's making my nose run!
thanks,
> dimitri.


Sheldon has stated a number of times that even breast milk contains MSG,
have you not been reading, blake...???


--
Best
Greg

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:44:20 -0600, Gregory Morrow wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:05:43 -0700, Dimitri wrote:
>>>
>>> Glutamate Contents of Foods
>>> Food SizeServing Glutamate(mg/serving)
>>>
>>> Tomato juice 1 cup0.827
>>> Tomato 3 slices0.339
>>> Meat loaf dinner 9 oz.0.189
>>> Human breast milk 1 cup0.176
>>
>> jesus, it must be the human breast milk that's making my nose run!
> thanks,
>> dimitri.
>
> Sheldon has stated a number of times that even breast milk contains MSG,
> have you not been reading, blake...???

i thought it was crystal palace.

your pal,
blake

Janet Bostwick wrote:
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 5.250...
>> On Mon 23 Mar 2009 08:03:32p, Linda told us...
>>
>>> As most of us globally have to tighten our belts what favourite budget
>>> recipes do you have?
>>>
>>> mine is 'everything with rice'
>>> 10kg rice @ $12.00 (bulk buy kept in sealed container)
>>> plus powdered soup (eg French onion) 45c and leftovers!)
> snip
>> Can't really offer you any specific recipes, as I cook pretty much the
>> same
>> things I always have. The real trick for us is judicious purchasing, and
>> minimizing restaurant visits.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>>
> It isn't really recession cooking, but something we enjoy fairly often.
> Rice cooked in chicken broth and mixed with multiple of any vegetable on
> hand. An example would be sautéed celery, onion and carrot plus frozen
> peas, corn and a can of mushrooms. For us it's tasty and filling and gives
> us a break from too much meat.
> Janet
>
>

Gotta try this one. Thanks for the posting. Actually, to me, I find your
idea to be more in the class of comfort food....

In article >,
George > wrote:

> Janet Bostwick wrote:
> > "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> > 5.250...
> >> On Mon 23 Mar 2009 08:03:32p, Linda told us...
> >>
> >>> As most of us globally have to tighten our belts what favourite budget
> >>> recipes do you have?
> >>>
> >>> mine is 'everything with rice'
> >>> 10kg rice @ $12.00 (bulk buy kept in sealed container)
> >>> plus powdered soup (eg French onion) 45c and leftovers!)
> > snip
> >> Can't really offer you any specific recipes, as I cook pretty much the
> >> same
> >> things I always have. The real trick for us is judicious purchasing, and
> >> minimizing restaurant visits.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Wayne Boatwright
> >>
> > It isn't really recession cooking, but something we enjoy fairly often.
> > Rice cooked in chicken broth and mixed with multiple of any vegetable on
> > hand. An example would be sautéed celery, onion and carrot plus frozen
> > peas, corn and a can of mushrooms. For us it's tasty and filling and gives
> > us a break from too much meat.
> > Janet
> >
> >
>
> Gotta try this one. Thanks for the posting. Actually, to me, I find your
> idea to be more in the class of comfort food....

Sounds a LOT like the kind of rice I make all the time. :-)
I cook it in chicken (or other meat) stock and add chopped celery,
onion, carrot and mushrooms, then once it's done, I add a can or two of
no salt added peas (or frozen peas) and maybe some kind of chopped
pre-cooked meat (but not always). Cocktail shrimp works well.

I finish it by scrambling up some eggs in the CI skillet, breaking those
up and stirring the cooked eggs into the rice and veggies.

Add herbs/spices to taste.
--
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Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.

Janet wrote:

> It isn't really recession cooking, but something we enjoy fairly often.
> Rice cooked in chicken broth and mixed with multiple of any vegetable on
> hand. An example would be sautéed celery, onion and carrot plus frozen
> peas, corn and a can of mushrooms. For us it's tasty and filling and
> gives us a break from too much meat.

I believe the term for that is "confetti rice." It's one of those things I
had in school lunches, so I drifted away from it, but it's really not bad at
all.

Bob

On Mar 26, 12:32*pm, zxcvbob > wrote:
> Linda wrote:
> > As most of us globally have to tighten our belts what favourite budget
> > recipes do you have?
>
> > mine is 'everything with rice'
> > 10kg rice @ $12.00 (bulk buy kept in sealed container)
> > plus powdered soup (eg French onion) 45c and leftovers!)
>
> > Baked beans on toast
>
> > Can anyone please stretch my imagination?
>
> > Linda the uncreative!
>
> If you like Hamburger Helper® and are put-off by the high cost of those
> boxes, you can substitute a 35¢ box of generic macaroni & cheese (Aldi's
> brand in the blue box is good) *HTH :-)

No. That is not "good."
>
>
> Recession has little to do with it, I'm just cheap :-)

Me too, but not cheap enough to eat that sort of stuff.

> /Bob

--Bryan

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
...
> Janet wrote:
>
>> It isn't really recession cooking, but something we enjoy fairly often.
>> Rice cooked in chicken broth and mixed with multiple of any vegetable on
>> hand. An example would be sautéed celery, onion and carrot plus frozen
>> peas, corn and a can of mushrooms. For us it's tasty and filling and
>> gives us a break from too much meat.
>
> I believe the term for that is "confetti rice." It's one of those things I
> had in school lunches, so I drifted away from it, but it's really not bad
> at
> all.
>
> Bob
I always find it interesting that something I 'invented' already existed.
It just reinforces my idea that there are no new ideas in cooking, just
re-discovery.
Janet

"George" > wrote in message
...
> Janet Bostwick wrote:
snip
>>>
>> It isn't really recession cooking, but something we enjoy fairly often.
>> Rice cooked in chicken broth and mixed with multiple of any vegetable on
>> hand. An example would be sautéed celery, onion and carrot plus frozen
>> peas, corn and a can of mushrooms. For us it's tasty and filling and
>> gives us a break from too much meat.
>> Janet
>
> Gotta try this one. Thanks for the posting. Actually, to me, I find your
> idea to be more in the class of comfort food....

You're welcome.
Janet

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:14:33 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:05:43 -0700, Dimitri wrote:
>>
>> Glutamate Contents of Foods
>> Food SizeServing Glutamate(mg/serving)
>>
>> Tomato juice 1 cup0.827
>> Tomato 3 slices0.339
>> Meat loaf dinner 9 oz.0.189
>> Human breast milk 1 cup0.176
>
>jesus, it must be the human breast milk that's making my nose run! thanks,
>dimitri.

That's okay, Blake. If she's any kind of a mother, she'll have a
tissue at the ready.

Carol

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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:39:20 -0500, zxcvbob >
wrote:

>Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to break out of the mindset that a turkey dinner has to be
>> expensive. We're going to skip most of the Thanksgiving side dishes,
>> so it won't be expensive at all. There is a gas station nearby that
>> sells potatoes, onions, and bananas for .39/pound, USD. Can hardly go
>> wrong with that! Ohhhhh, banana cream pie for dessert!
>
>Buy your apples at KwikTrip too. They are about half the cost of
>Walmart for good Gala and Braeburns and Yellow Delicious. (you can keep
>the Red Delicious and the stale underripe Granny Smiths :-P Yellow
>Delicious is a surprisingly good cooking apple, even if they are
>sometimes too soft to eat fresh.

I like Golden Delicious fresh. And they have to be at room
temperature. I have this weird thing with cold, crisp apples. They
have the same effect on me as fingernails on a chalk board. I run
when I see a Waldorf Salad on the table!

Thanks for the tip. I'm trying to eat more healthful food these days.

Carol

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