Take 2 large potatoes, wash them and dice them.
Throw them into a pot with water.
Set it over the stove.
Now sneak the broccoli out of the bag.
Wash it and cut off the "blossoms" ( the green, not the yellow; those
are not supposed to be there - then the broccoli should have been
picked earlier - althought they taste ok anyway... a bit sweet..)
Dice 1/4 of the stem and throw them in with the potatoes.
Bring to boil for maybe 5-6 mins until stems and potatoes are half
tender.
Throw in the rest of the broccoli.

When everything is tender, pour the water out.
Bring out your potato masher - or a fork - and mash it all a stir in
some olive oil, salt, pepper, until a nice creamy texture.

Serve with a nice steak ( as always)...

Watch your loved ones stuff themselves with broccoli for the first
time...

In article
>,
Michael Nielsen > wrote:

> Take 2 large potatoes, wash them and dice them.
> Throw them into a pot with water.
> Set it over the stove.
> Now sneak the broccoli out of the bag.
> Wash it and cut off the "blossoms" ( the green, not the yellow; those
> are not supposed to be there - then the broccoli should have been
> picked earlier - althought they taste ok anyway... a bit sweet..)
> Dice 1/4 of the stem and throw them in with the potatoes.
> Bring to boil for maybe 5-6 mins until stems and potatoes are half
> tender.
> Throw in the rest of the broccoli.
>
> When everything is tender, pour the water out.
> Bring out your potato masher - or a fork - and mash it all a stir in
> some olive oil, salt, pepper, until a nice creamy texture.
>
> Serve with a nice steak ( as always)...
>
> Watch your loved ones stuff themselves with broccoli for the first
> time...

Yuck; adulterated potatoes.

Michael Siemon wrote:
>
> In article
> >,
> Michael Nielsen > wrote:
>
> > Take 2 large potatoes, wash them and dice them.
> > Throw them into a pot with water.
> > Set it over the stove.
> > Now sneak the broccoli out of the bag.
> > Wash it and cut off the "blossoms" ( the green, not the yellow; those
> > are not supposed to be there - then the broccoli should have been
> > picked earlier - althought they taste ok anyway... a bit sweet..)
> > Dice 1/4 of the stem and throw them in with the potatoes.
> > Bring to boil for maybe 5-6 mins until stems and potatoes are half
> > tender.
> > Throw in the rest of the broccoli.
> >
> > When everything is tender, pour the water out.
> > Bring out your potato masher - or a fork - and mash it all a stir in
> > some olive oil, salt, pepper, until a nice creamy texture.
> >
> > Serve with a nice steak ( as always)...
> >
> > Watch your loved ones stuff themselves with broccoli for the first
> > time...
>
> Yuck; adulterated potatoes.

Those broccoli'd potatoes wouldn't fool me!!! At least I don't
think they would <G>. Besides, wouldn't the broccoli make the potatoes
turn sort of green or at least give a bit of green tinge? Not to
mention, the taste would still be there, I'd imagine?

Sky

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice

> *Those broccoli'd potatoes wouldn't fool me!!! *At least I don't
> think they would <G>. *Besides, wouldn't the broccoli make the potatoes
> turn sort of green or at least give a bit of green tinge? *Not to
> mention, the taste would still be there, I'd imagine?

Yes, it is a beautiful bright green color. I do not mean it as people
will not know that it is not mashed potatoes.
However, they will sceptically take a first scoop and go "wow" and
then gorge themselves in it.

Michael wrote:

> Yuck; adulterated potatoes.

While I'm not an advocate for adultery[1], I do think that potatoes can
usually benefit from being "dressed up." My personal favorite is the Joel
Robuchon method of mixing potatoes with lots of butter and cream, but I also
like potatoes puréed either with parsnips or celery root.

On the other hand, tiny potatoes which have been pulled from the ground less
than a day ago are best by themselves, with only a toss in butter and maybe
a sprinkling of coarse salt and chopped fresh parsley.

At any rate, the original post was intended to suggest a possible
improvement for broccoli, i.e., the final dish is supposed to be better than
plain steamed broccoli, not better than mashed potatoes. And I'm sure that
some people would consider the "adulterated potatoes" to be a _vast_
improvement on steamed broccoli.

My experience has been that kids will eat steamed broccoli if you give them
something in which to dip it. And it doesn't even seem to matter all that
much *what* they dip it in: ketchup, ranch dressing, honey mustard,
mayonnaise with lemon juice, nacho cheese, barbecue sauce, and teriyaki
sauce have all been seen as attractive broccoli-dipping options by kids.

Bob
[1] Yes, I know it's "adulteration." I'm just playing with the words.

On Fri 03 Apr 2009 07:45:56p, Michael Nielsen told us...

> Take 2 large potatoes, wash them and dice them.
> Throw them into a pot with water.
> Set it over the stove.
> Now sneak the broccoli out of the bag.
> Wash it and cut off the "blossoms" ( the green, not the yellow; those
> are not supposed to be there - then the broccoli should have been
> picked earlier - althought they taste ok anyway... a bit sweet..)
> Dice 1/4 of the stem and throw them in with the potatoes.
> Bring to boil for maybe 5-6 mins until stems and potatoes are half
> tender.
> Throw in the rest of the broccoli.
>
> When everything is tender, pour the water out.
> Bring out your potato masher - or a fork - and mash it all a stir in
> some olive oil, salt, pepper, until a nice creamy texture.
>
> Serve with a nice steak ( as always)...
>
> Watch your loved ones stuff themselves with broccoli for the first
> time...

I'm a firm believer in never forcing anyone to eat something they clearly
don't like. I happen to love both potatoes and broccoli, and many other
things that some people don't care for. Having said that, I would much
prefer having both the potatoes and the broccoli served separately. This
dish has absolutely no appeal to me. OTOH, I don't mind topping a large
baked potato with crisply cooked broccoli and a cheese sauce.



--
Wayne Boatwright

"One man's meat is another man's poison"
- Oswald Dykes, English writer, 1709.

> While I'm not an advocate for adultery[1], I do think that potatoes can
> usually benefit from being "dressed up." My personal favorite is the Joel
> Robuchon method of mixing potatoes with lots of butter and cream, but I also
> like potatoes puréed either with parsnips or celery root.

Yes, mashed potatoes with parsnip is good. And mashed potatoes with
parsley and bacon.

In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> Michael wrote:
>
> > Yuck; adulterated potatoes.
>
> While I'm not an advocate for adultery[1], I do think that potatoes can
> usually benefit from being "dressed up." My personal favorite is the Joel
> Robuchon method of mixing potatoes with lots of butter and cream, but I also
> like potatoes puréed either with parsnips or celery root.

I often do a potato/celery-root puree; also cauliflower or sometimes
artichoke-stem (previously steamed...), or other combinations. I haven't
tried parsnips, but suspect they'd work fine...

> On the other hand, tiny potatoes which have been pulled from the ground less
> than a day ago are best by themselves, with only a toss in butter and maybe
> a sprinkling of coarse salt and chopped fresh parsley.

Oh, yes; pure potato for good potatoes is wonderful...

> At any rate, the original post was intended to suggest a possible
> improvement for broccoli, i.e., the final dish is supposed to be better than
> plain steamed broccoli, not better than mashed potatoes. And I'm sure that
> some people would consider the "adulterated potatoes" to be a _vast_
> improvement on steamed broccoli.

Personally, I think it is just a way to make potatoes unappetizing.[*]
>
> My experience has been that kids will eat steamed broccoli if you give them
> something in which to dip it. And it doesn't even seem to matter all that
> much *what* they dip it in: ketchup, ranch dressing, honey mustard,
> mayonnaise with lemon juice, nacho cheese, barbecue sauce, and teriyaki
> sauce have all been seen as attractive broccoli-dipping options by kids.

Yes; sufficient disguise of the taste of broccoli is one way to go.
---[*] As a kid, I was forced to eat potatoes. The problem, as it turns out
(since in fact I _love_ potatoes), was that my mother served over-boiled
potatoes with the cheapest possible margarine. And I _loathe_ margarine.
Since I loved french-fries, and mashed-potatoes with chicken gravy
(which my mother also made, so she was not a total loss ...), I _knew_
it wasn't the potatoes that were the problem. But it wasn't until many
years after I left home that I discovered that food could actually be
interesting. Luckily, my mother never made broccoli.

In article
>,
Michael Nielsen > wrote:

> > *Those broccoli'd potatoes wouldn't fool me!!! *At least I don't
> > think they would <G>. *Besides, wouldn't the broccoli make the potatoes
> > turn sort of green or at least give a bit of green tinge? *Not to
> > mention, the taste would still be there, I'd imagine?
>
> Yes, it is a beautiful bright green color. I do not mean it as people
> will not know that it is not mashed potatoes.
> However, they will sceptically take a first scoop and go "wow" and
> then gorge themselves in it.

YMMV.

In article
>,
Michael Nielsen > wrote:

> Take 2 large potatoes, wash them and dice them.
> Throw them into a pot with water.
> Set it over the stove.
> Now sneak the broccoli out of the bag.
> Wash it and cut off the "blossoms" ( the green, not the yellow; those
> are not supposed to be there - then the broccoli should have been
> picked earlier - althought they taste ok anyway... a bit sweet..)
> Dice 1/4 of the stem and throw them in with the potatoes.
> Bring to boil for maybe 5-6 mins until stems and potatoes are half
> tender.
> Throw in the rest of the broccoli.
>
> When everything is tender, pour the water out.
> Bring out your potato masher - or a fork - and mash it all a stir in
> some olive oil, salt, pepper, until a nice creamy texture.
>
> Serve with a nice steak ( as always)...
>
> Watch your loved ones stuff themselves with broccoli for the first
> time...

No offense, but you flatter yourself too much. I am a life-long broccoli
hater. I see nothing about your recipe that stands a chance of inducing
me to change that. I have tried broccoli several times. Blech! The
flavor is terribly off-putting to me. I can deal with broccoli's texture
fine, but the flavor is a deal breaker for me and nothing in your recipe
looks like it hides the flavor. I even tried fresh broccoli that was
fresh out of my dad's garden. Mashing up broccoli is an unusual idea,
but it won't change its flavor. I will notice it even before the fork
hits the plate due to the terrible and distinctive smell that broccoli
has. Icky!

"Michael Nielsen" > wrote in message
...

However, they will sceptically take a first scoop and go "wow" and
then gorge themselves in it.


Like people aren't fat enough these days. :-\

On Apr 3, 9:45*pm, Michael Nielsen > wrote:
> Take 2 large potatoes, wash them and dice them.
> Throw them into a pot with water.
> Set it over the stove.
> Now sneak the broccoli out of the bag.
> Wash it and cut off the "blossoms" ( the green, not the yellow; those
> are not supposed to be there - then the broccoli should have been
> picked earlier - althought they taste ok anyway... a bit sweet..)
> Dice 1/4 of the stem and throw them in with the potatoes.
> Bring to boil for maybe 5-6 mins until stems and potatoes are half
> tender.
> Throw in the rest of the broccoli.
>
> When everything is tender, pour the water out.
> Bring out your potato masher - or a fork - and mash it all a stir in
> some olive oil, salt, pepper, until a nice creamy texture.
>
> Serve with a nice steak ( as always)...
>
> Watch your loved ones stuff themselves with broccoli for the first
> time...

Serve you right if someone slipped a large dose of LSD into your
orange juice. Asshole.

--Bryan

"Stan Horwitz" > wrote in message
...
> In article
> >,
> Michael Nielsen > wrote:
>
>> Take 2 large potatoes, wash them and dice them.
>> Throw them into a pot with water.
>> Set it over the stove.
>> Now sneak the broccoli out of the bag.
>> Wash it and cut off the "blossoms" ( the green, not the yellow; those
>> are not supposed to be there - then the broccoli should have been
>> picked earlier - althought they taste ok anyway... a bit sweet..)
>> Dice 1/4 of the stem and throw them in with the potatoes.
>> Bring to boil for maybe 5-6 mins until stems and potatoes are half
>> tender.
>> Throw in the rest of the broccoli.
>>
>> When everything is tender, pour the water out.
>> Bring out your potato masher - or a fork - and mash it all a stir in
>> some olive oil, salt, pepper, until a nice creamy texture.
>>
>> Serve with a nice steak ( as always)...
>>
>> Watch your loved ones stuff themselves with broccoli for the first
>> time...
>
> No offense, but you flatter yourself too much. I am a life-long broccoli
> hater. I see nothing about your recipe that stands a chance of inducing
> me to change that. I have tried broccoli several times. Blech! The
> flavor is terribly off-putting to me. I can deal with broccoli's texture
> fine, but the flavor is a deal breaker for me and nothing in your recipe
> looks like it hides the flavor. I even tried fresh broccoli that was
> fresh out of my dad's garden. Mashing up broccoli is an unusual idea,
> but it won't change its flavor. I will notice it even before the fork
> hits the plate due to the terrible and distinctive smell that broccoli
> has. Icky!

I'd a thought fer certain you'd enjoy broccoli crudites with Heinz ketchup
dip.

I like broccoli but not mashed into potato... however I do like spinach
mashed into potato. Btw, the best way to have potato is potatonic... second
best is potato k'nish.

"Michael Nielsen" > wrote in message
...
> Take 2 large potatoes, wash them and dice them.
> Throw them into a pot with water.
> Set it over the stove.
> Now sneak the broccoli out of the bag.

<snip>

Never could understand why broccoli-lovers insist that other should love it,
too!

Felice

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:46:18 -0700 (PDT), Bobo Bonobo® wrote:

> On Apr 3, 9:45*pm, Michael Nielsen > wrote:
>> Take 2 large potatoes, wash them and dice them.
>> Throw them into a pot with water.
>> Set it over the stove.
>> Now sneak the broccoli out of the bag.
>> Wash it and cut off the "blossoms" ( the green, not the yellow; those
>> are not supposed to be there - then the broccoli should have been
>> picked earlier - althought they taste ok anyway... a bit sweet..)
>> Dice 1/4 of the stem and throw them in with the potatoes.
>> Bring to boil for maybe 5-6 mins until stems and potatoes are half
>> tender.
>> Throw in the rest of the broccoli.
>>
>> When everything is tender, pour the water out.
>> Bring out your potato masher - or a fork - and mash it all a stir in
>> some olive oil, salt, pepper, until a nice creamy texture.
>>
>> Serve with a nice steak ( as always)...
>>
>> Watch your loved ones stuff themselves with broccoli for the first
>> time...
>
> Serve you right if someone slipped a large dose of LSD into your
> orange juice. Asshole.
>

what is it with you and surreptitious dosing?

blake

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:52:53 -0400, "Felice" >
wrote:

>Never could understand why broccoli-lovers insist that other should love it,
>too!

Felice....lamb lovers do the same thing. "You haven't had it
fixed right...you would love mine"!

No...thank you.

Mr. Bill wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:52:53 -0400, "Felice" >
> wrote:
>
>> Never could understand why broccoli-lovers insist that other should love it,
>> too!
>
> Felice....lamb lovers do the same thing. "You haven't had it
> fixed right...you would love mine"!
>
> No...thank you.
>
>
I think it's one thing when you encounter an extremely picky
eater, who perhaps hasn't even tried the food in question. It's
quite another when a person has tried the food, perhaps several
times, and has formed an opinion based on taste, texture, or
something else.

--
Jean B.

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:13:56 -0500, "Hedda Lettis" >
wrote:

>
>"Michael Nielsen" > wrote in message
...
>
>However, they will sceptically take a first scoop and go "wow" and
>then gorge themselves in it.
>
>
>Like people aren't fat enough these days. :-\

Aren't potatoes like that "the meal"? Serve with a salad if you want
more greens.


--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Felice wrote:

> Never could understand why broccoli-lovers insist that other
> should love it, too!

I'd guess it's either because of the undisputed health benefits of eating
broccoli or the fact that some people would look on it as a challenge to
find a way to make broccoli palatable to broccoli-haters.

Bob

On Apr 4, 8:50*pm, "Bob Terwilliger" >
wrote:
> Felice wrote:
> > Never could understand why broccoli-lovers insist that other
> > should love it, too!
>
> I'd guess it's either because of the undisputed health benefits of eating
> broccoli or the fact that some people would look on it as a challenge to
> find a way to make broccoli palatable to broccoli-haters.

Like a straight guy who fantasizes about converting a *******.
Neither is likely to succeed.
>
> Bob

--Bryan

On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 03:21:38 -0700 (PDT), Bobo Bonobo® wrote:

> On Apr 4, 8:50*pm, "Bob Terwilliger" >
> wrote:
>> Felice wrote:
>>> Never could understand why broccoli-lovers insist that other
>>> should love it, too!
>>
>> I'd guess it's either because of the undisputed health benefits of eating
>> broccoli or the fact that some people would look on it as a challenge to
>> find a way to make broccoli palatable to broccoli-haters.
>
> Like a straight guy who fantasizes about converting a *******.
> Neither is likely to succeed.
>>

have you gotten any word on when you may be done with adolescence?

blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 03:21:38 -0700 (PDT), Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>
>> On Apr 4, 8:50 pm, "Bob Terwilliger" >
>> wrote:
>>> Felice wrote:
>>>> Never could understand why broccoli-lovers insist that other
>>>> should love it, too!
>>>
>>> I'd guess it's either because of the undisputed health benefits of
>>> eating
>>> broccoli or the fact that some people would look on it as a challenge to
>>> find a way to make broccoli palatable to broccoli-haters.
>>
>> Like a straight guy who fantasizes about converting a *******.
>> Neither is likely to succeed.
>>>
>
> have you gotten any word on when you may be done with adolescence?
>
When they pry it out of his talentless, obnoxious hands.

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 03:21:38 -0700 (PDT), Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>
> > On Apr 4, 8:50*pm, "Bob Terwilliger" >
> > wrote:
> >> Felice wrote:
> >>> Never could understand why broccoli-lovers insist that other
> >>> should love it, too!
> >>
> >> I'd guess it's either because of the undisputed health benefits of eating
> >> broccoli or the fact that some people would look on it as a challenge to
> >> find a way to make broccoli palatable to broccoli-haters.
> >
> > Like a straight guy who fantasizes about converting a *******.
> > Neither is likely to succeed.

Have you seen the film "Chasing Amy"? It's about exactly that. The guy
has very mixed success.

> have you gotten any word on when you may be done with adolescence?

I've never had a .sig file with a cutesy quote. I'm going to ask Miche
if I can use hers. It seems appropriate. Bryan posts some strange
things, and I've done my share on dumping on him. I will continue to do
so. Still, he has a lot of good things to say.

I assume that Michael was joking. It's not nice to try to make people
eat stuff that they don't like. If somebody gets served some green
potatoes, I don't think they'll be fooled. Michael is pretty good with
English, but it isn't his native language, I think. Perhaps the joke
lost something in the translation.

We *always* put broccoli in our twice-baked potatoes. It was supposed
to be some kind of "trick" to make kids eat broccoli. Didn't work on
our kids, they already liked broccoli. I think that potatoes and
broccoli go well together.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Michael Nielsen wrote:
> Take 2 large potatoes, wash them and dice them.
> Throw them into a pot with water.
> Set it over the stove.
> Now sneak the broccoli out of the bag.
> Wash it and cut off the "blossoms" ( the green, not the yellow; those
> are not supposed to be there - then the broccoli should have been
> picked earlier - althought they taste ok anyway... a bit sweet..)
> Dice 1/4 of the stem and throw them in with the potatoes.
> Bring to boil for maybe 5-6 mins until stems and potatoes are half
> tender.
> Throw in the rest of the broccoli.
>
> When everything is tender, pour the water out.
> Bring out your potato masher - or a fork - and mash it all a stir in
> some olive oil, salt, pepper, until a nice creamy texture.
>
> Serve with a nice steak ( as always)...
>
> Watch your loved ones stuff themselves with broccoli for the first
> time...

It would never work with me, that's for sure.
Broccoli is right up there in the top 10 foods
I hate the most. ;-)

Kate


--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

> I assume that Michael was joking. *It's not nice to try to make people
> eat stuff that they don't like. *If somebody gets served some green
> potatoes, I don't think they'll be fooled. *Michael is pretty good with
> English, but it isn't his native language, I think. *Perhaps the joke
> lost something in the translation.

What was a joke?

But theres a fair share of posts concerning the ideology of "forcing"
people to eat what they dont like...
And it has nothing to do with forcing anybody.
It has to do with people eating only potatoes (rice, pasta) and meat
(common in DK).
Trying to serve them something healthier that they ENJOY. (No force.)

I got the recipe out of a health/exercise magazine called "In
Shape" (translated), following an article on the health benefits.
I tried it and people who hate broccoli liked it so its part of my
stable now.
When I cook for myself I generally make some kind of meat with either
spinach sauteed with garlic, creamed spinach, sauteed asperagus,
steamed broccoli,
brussel sprouts lightly boiled and caramelized on the pan in butter,
bok choy sauteed in almonds, or (mostly for chicken) couscous with
tomato, garlic, paprika, broccoli flowers or some other veggie, bell
peppers, and italian (broadleaf) parsley.
If I have time moussaka, ratatouille, or broccoli gratin.
So the potato/broccoli thing is for when I cook for others who would
not eat any veggies.


> We *always* put broccoli in our twice-baked potatoes. *It was supposed
> to be some kind of "trick" to make kids eat broccoli. *Didn't work on
> our kids, they already liked broccoli. *I think that potatoes and
> broccoli go well together.

Actually the ones I know who dont like broccoli are adults

> --
> Dan Abel
> Petaluma, California USA

Hmm, I think I drove through that town yesterday... I followed the sun
before sundown from Napa to get to the coast.

In article
>,
Michael Nielsen > wrote:

> > I assume that Michael was joking. *It's not nice to try to make people
> > eat stuff that they don't like. *If somebody gets served some green
> > potatoes, I don't think they'll be fooled. *Michael is pretty good with
> > English, but it isn't his native language, I think. *Perhaps the joke
> > lost something in the translation.
>
> What was a joke?

"How to stuff broccoli into those who hate it"

It makes it sound like you are going to make people do something they
don't want to do. I thought that was a joke. Others thought it was
offensive. I find it hard to believe you were trying to be offensive.

> But theres a fair share of posts concerning the ideology of "forcing"
> people to eat what they dont like...
> And it has nothing to do with forcing anybody.
> It has to do with people eating only potatoes (rice, pasta) and meat
> (common in DK).
> Trying to serve them something healthier that they ENJOY. (No force.)

> > We *always* put broccoli in our twice-baked potatoes. *It was supposed
> > to be some kind of "trick" to make kids eat broccoli. *Didn't work on
> > our kids, they already liked broccoli. *I think that potatoes and
> > broccoli go well together.
>
> Actually the ones I know who dont like broccoli are adults

I think many adults are beyond help. Sometimes kids like little tricks,
if you are nice about it. Adults less so.

> Petaluma, California USA

> Hmm, I think I drove through that town yesterday... I followed the sun
> before sundown from Napa to get to the coast.

Depending on your route, it's on the way. You may have been within a
couple of miles of my house.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

"[Don't] assume that someone is "broken" just because they behave in ways
you don't like or don't understand." --Miche

Kate Connally wrote:

> Michael Nielsen wrote:

>> Watch your loved ones stuff themselves with broccoli for the first
>> time...
>
> It would never work with me, that's for sure.
> Broccoli is right up there in the top 10 foods
> I hate the most. ;-)
>

<laugh> I feel the same way about cabbage. Must admit I have tried
it 'disguised' in many ways, but I can still taste it - blech.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy