l, not -l wrote:
> On 4-Apr-2009, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>
>
>>Having seen the catalogue im no longer interested. Im pretentious
>>enough on my own, i don't need a grocery store to provide me with a
>>patina of sophistication at inflated prices
>>--
>>JL
>
>
> Wow, I don't know where you buy your groceries; but, here (STL)
Trader Joe's
> prices are very good when compared to the regional chains.

Did you miss the "Oakland Chinatown" thread. I get what you quote
prices for at better prices there. But your right about the following.

> Perhaps what you don't like (I don't either) is their particular brand of
> marketing. If the opportunity presents itself; visit a TJ's and, with an
> open mind, try the kinds of products you do like, I think you'll be
pleased.
>
>
I have not been to a TJ's store, only looked at a catalogue that was
just too, too
over the top in the 'cutesy' department. I really don't need a pep talk
to buy a stock of broccoli, and if i want a jar of tomato sauce i don't
need a sales pitch to decide what to purchase.

That TJ's catalogue almost seems to me to be rather obsequious.

I wont shop at our local "Whole Foods" because of all the cosmetics they
sell, their collective aromas i assault me as i walk in the door.
--
JL

On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:10:25 -0700, jpstifel >
wrote:

>I have not been to a TJ's store, only looked at a catalogue that was
>just too, too over the top in the 'cutesy' department. I really don't need a pep talk
>to buy a stock of broccoli, and if i want a jar of tomato sauce i don't
>need a sales pitch to decide what to purchase.

It's not like that at all, JL. The staff is there to answer questions
and stock shelves, not be used car salesmen.


--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

cat wrote:

> I don't take any of CR's "surveys" to mean anything. Their methodology is
> completely removed from standard polling procedure, because it's a
> self-selecting group. It only includes CR readers, who are likely more
> educated and affluent than average

....much like Usenet users?

Bob

blake murphy wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:50:04 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>
>
>>Fred/Libby Barclay wrote:
>>
>>>I received my Consumer Reports magazine yesterday, and it's all about
>>>grocery shopping and how to save.
>>>
>>>They surveyed 32,599 people and the rankings are based on service,
>>>perishables (quality of meat and produce), price and cleanliness.
>>>
>>>They have 59 stores listed, with the highest overall score being 87 out
>>>of 100, and the lowest being 64.
>>>
>>>The top ten~
>>>
>>>1. Wegmans
>>>2. Trader Joe's
>>
>>For some reason i have started to get Trader Joe's catalogues in the
>>mail, up until that happened i was curious about the stores that so many
>>people here find fascinating.
>>
>>Having seen the catalogue im no longer interested. Im pretentious
>>enough on my own, i don't need a grocery store to provide me with a
>>patina of sophistication at inflated prices
>
>
> how odd. i find their flyers surprisingly down-to-earth. you gotta admit
> they're a little different.
>
> your pal,
> blake

I can see how some people would consider it charming, quaint etc. but it
doesn't appeal to me.

There's such a plethora of "mom & pop" type independent food merchants
in my neighborhood i cant recall the last time i had to go out of the
neighborhood for a food purchase.

I have convinced the elderly relative there is no need to get the cheap
turkeys during the winter holidays, her frugal nature in the past made
them almost impossible for her to pass up, but now days i buy a 10 pound
or so capon at a local butcher so no need to make a trip to 'safeway'.

And since her Dr.'s put her on a low salt & low sugar diet i don't buy
any packaged or processed foods anymore.

Last time i fixed her favorite 'stove top stuffing' for her it sent her
to the hospital way too much salt.

Im about to start jam making in an attempt to make her jam with less
sugar than the commercial products.

Fortunately i found a peanut butter with no salt or sugar. I can make
my own peanut butter but its tedious and im a bit concerned about
wearing out my food processor to do so.

Basically the TJ's, WHole Foods, Andronico's type 'upscale' markets
don't appeal to me for a variety of reasons.

There's a big 'supermarket' out in the far east bay in an affluent
suburb that has wall to wall carpeting, 'gold' plated (colored) shopping
carts with calculators & scanners built in and the time i was there a
small 'chamber orchestra' sort of group of tuxedo clad musicians on a
stage playing classical music. Everything there exorbitantly priced as
you might expect, even valet parking if you desire it.
--
JL

sf wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:10:25 -0700, jpstifel >
> wrote:
>
>
>>I have not been to a TJ's store, only looked at a catalogue that was
>>just too, too over the top in the 'cutesy' department. I really don't need a pep talk
>>to buy a stock of broccoli, and if i want a jar of tomato sauce i don't
>>need a sales pitch to decide what to purchase.
>
>
> It's not like that at all, JL. The staff is there to answer questions
> and stock shelves, not be used car salesmen.
>
>
I was talking about the TJ's catalogue. I have never been to the actual
store.
--
JL

Andy wrote:
> Becca said...
>
>
>> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>>
>>> Or in many small towns, Wal Mart has driven the small grocers out of
>>> business. Plus, you can get all the Wal Mart type stuff in the same
>>> trip, i.e. a quart of oil. I run up to Wal Mart for milk and
>>> half&half, when Aldi isn't open. They're closer and cheaper than the
>>> supermarkets.
>>> One really awful thing is their brined beef (enhanced with a
>>> solution).
>>>
>> One of my friends is visiting this weekend, and she owned a bicycle shop
>> until Walmart opened Her store closed one year later, along with the
>> store next door to her, which was a fabric store. This is why some
>> communities do not care for Walmart.
>>
>>
>> Becca
>>
>
>
> Not to mention, Walmart is the most employee discriminatory, un-green
> company on the planet!!!
>
> I wouldn't spend my last red cent there!
>
> Andy
>


When I was married to my ex-husband, I needed to purchase rechargeable
batteries, I was on my way out of town. I ran into Walmart to get them
and I refused the bag. I hid the receipt, because he would have been
upset if he knew I walked through the doors at Walmart. lol


Becca

Sqwertz wrote:
> Fred/Libby Barclay > wrote:
>
>
>> This survey was held between April 2007 and April 2008. The survey
>> covers a total of 48, 831 visits; and findings reflect the experiences
>> of their readers, not necessarily those of the general population.
>>
>
> 36,000 people took the survey documenting 48,000 trips to the
> grocery store? That would mean a awful lot of people never even
> shopped at any of those stores.
>
> A recently published survey found that 94.42% of all surveys had
> serious flaws. And this on is no exception.
>
> -sw
>

Statistics are like bikinis, what they reveal is interesting, but what
they hide is critical.


Becca

"Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
> Basically the TJ's, WHole Foods, Andronico's type 'upscale' markets don't
> appeal to me for a variety of reasons.
>

We go to TJ's and Whole Food on occasion. They are high priced on some
items, but they are equal or even lower on sale items, special buys, and
they have things the other markets just do not carry. WF is the only place
I know that has Cotswold cheese, for instance. You just have to pay
attention and get the things not easily found elsewhere if that is what you
want.

Fred/Libby Barclay wrote:
> Okay.......here are the rest of the stores in the consumer survey. For
> some reason I left off #10, so I'll start with that . . .
>
> 10. WinCo Foods
> 11. Stater Bros.
> 12. Hy-Vee
> 13. Piggly Wiggly (pertain only to stores
> in Wisconsin, Iowa and Ilinois)
> 14. Aldi
> 15. Fry's Food Stores
> 16. Fred Myer
> 17. Save Mart
> 18. King Soopers
> 19. H-E-B
> 20. SuperTarget
> 21. Hannaford
> 22. ShopRite
> 23. Ingles Markets
> 24. Schnucks
> 25. County Market
> 26. Dillons
> 27. Price Chopper
> 28. Cub Foods
> 29. Sav-a-Lot
> 30. Big-Y
> 31. Bashas'
> 32. Meijer
> 33. Giant Food Stores
> 34. Smith's Food & Drug
> 35. Bi-Lo
> 36. Vons
> 37. Kroger
> 38. Sam's Club
> 39. Ralphs
> 40. Weis Markets
> 41. IGA
> 42. BJ's Wholesale Club
> 43. Albertsons
> 44. Safeway
> 45. Jewel-Osco
> 46. Giant Eagle
> 47. Acme
> 48. Stop & Sop
> 49. Pick 'n Save
>
> This survey was held between April 2007 and April 2008. The survey
> covers a total of 48, 831 visits; and findings reflect the experiences
> of their readers, not necessarily those of the general population.
>
>


Thanks for posting this.


Becca

On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:32:07 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes
> wrote:

>Im about to start jam making in an attempt to make her jam with less
>sugar than the commercial products.
>
There seem to be lots of recipes on the internet.

>Fortunately i found a peanut butter with no salt or sugar. I can make
>my own peanut butter but its tedious and im a bit concerned about
>wearing out my food processor to do so.

I always thought peanut butter was something to make using your
blender.


--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:11:50 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" >
wrote:

>
>"Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
>> Basically the TJ's, WHole Foods, Andronico's type 'upscale' markets don't
>> appeal to me for a variety of reasons.
>>
>
>We go to TJ's and Whole Food on occasion. They are high priced on some
>items, but they are equal or even lower on sale items, special buys, and
>they have things the other markets just do not carry. WF is the only place
>I know that has Cotswold cheese, for instance. You just have to pay
>attention and get the things not easily found elsewhere if that is what you
>want.
>
I still prefer TJ cheese prices in general.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

cybercat wrote:

> "cat" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> >
> >> Fred/Libby Barclay > wrote:
> >
> >>> This survey was held between April 2007 and April 2008. The survey
> >>> covers a total of 48, 831 visits; and findings reflect the experiences
> >>> of their readers, not necessarily those of the general population.
> >
> >> 36,000 people took the survey documenting 48,000 trips to the
> >> grocery store? That would mean a awful lot of people never even
> >> shopped at any of those stores.
> >
> >> A recently published survey found that 94.42% of all surveys had
> >> serious flaws. And this on is no exception.
> >
> > I don't take any of CR's "surveys" to mean anything. Their methodology
is
> > completely removed from standard polling procedure, because it's a
> > self-selecting group. It only includes CR readers, who are likely more
> > educated and affluent than average, and of those, only CR readers who
> > choose to respond to the questionnaire. I can accept anecdotal reports
> > from their readers, but not any rankings or statistics.
>
>
> *spraying wildly*
>
> This is my turf, beeeetch.


Heehee, cyberkittie...


--
Best
Greg

"The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money."~~~~Margaret Thatcher

On Apr 4, 4:51*pm, (Fred/Libby Barclay) wrote:
> Okay.......here are the rest of the stores in the consumer survey. *For
> some reason I left off #10, so I'll start with that . . .
>
> 10. *WinCo Foods
> 11. *Stater Bros.
> 12. *Hy-Vee
> 13. *Piggly Wiggly (pertain only to stores
> * * * *in Wisconsin, Iowa and Ilinois)
> 14. *Aldi
> 15. *Fry's Food Stores
> 16. *Fred Myer
> 17. *Save Mart
> 18. *King Soopers
> 19. *H-E-B
> 20. *SuperTarget
> 21. *Hannaford
> 22. *ShopRite
> 23. *Ingles Markets
> 24. *Schnucks
> 25. *County Market
> 26. *Dillons
> 27. *Price Chopper
> 28. *Cub Foods
> 29. Sav-a-Lot
> 30. *Big-Y
> 31. *Bashas'
> 32. *Meijer
> 33. *Giant Food Stores
> 34. *Smith's Food & Drug
> 35. *Bi-Lo
> 36. *Vons
> 37. *Kroger
> 38. *Sam's Club
> 39. *Ralphs
> 40. *Weis Markets
> 41. *IGA
> 42. *BJ's Wholesale Club
> 43. *Albertsons
> 44. *Safeway
> 45. *Jewel-Osco
> 46. *Giant Eagle
> 47. *Acme
> 48. *Stop & Sop
> 49. *Pick 'n Save
>
> This survey was held between April 2007 and April 2008. *The survey
> covers a total of 48, 831 visits; and findings reflect the experiences
> of their readers, not necessarily those of the general population.

Thank you for taking the time to post the rest! Interesting to see
where your local places rated.

Kris

sf wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:32:07 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Im about to start jam making in an attempt to make her jam with less
>>sugar than the commercial products.
>>
>
> There seem to be lots of recipes on the internet.
>
>
>>Fortunately i found a peanut butter with no salt or sugar. I can make
>>my own peanut butter but its tedious and im a bit concerned about
>>wearing out my food processor to do so.
>
>
> I always thought peanut butter was something to make using your
> blender.
>
>
I cant imagine! the blenders i have had weren't much for mixing up
really thick substances, the food processor does a much better job.

The first time i used my food processor to make peanut butter i thought
i had set the thing on fire, smoke seemed to be curling up out of it.

Fortunately i let the next batch of peanuts cool before i put them in
the FP and they did not release any steam
--
JL

On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:32:07 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>
> And since her Dr.'s put her on a low salt & low sugar diet i don't buy
> any packaged or processed foods anymore.
>
> Last time i fixed her favorite 'stove top stuffing' for her it sent her
> to the hospital way too much salt.
>

yikes!

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:11:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> "Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
>> Basically the TJ's, WHole Foods, Andronico's type 'upscale' markets don't
>> appeal to me for a variety of reasons.
>>
>
> We go to TJ's and Whole Food on occasion. They are high priced on some
> items, but they are equal or even lower on sale items, special buys, and
> they have things the other markets just do not carry. WF is the only place
> I know that has Cotswold cheese, for instance. You just have to pay
> attention and get the things not easily found elsewhere if that is what you
> want.

some of their prices are quite good (not usually produce). as you say, you
have to pay attention.

your pal,
blake

maxine wrote:
> On Apr 5, 8:35 am, "Jean B." > wrote:
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> "Arri London" > wrote in message
>>>> The original Walmarts were located where there weren't any other places
>>>> to shop. Might still be the case?
>>> You may be right is the south where they started. Not the case at all here
>>> in New England, one of the last areas they built. We still have plenty of
>>> stores if Wal Mart went away, just as we did before they came. Many chains
>>> have come and gone is the past 20 or 30 years though.
>>> Ames
>>> Bradley's
>>> Two Guys
>>> The Fair
>>> Lechmere
>>> Giant
>>> Jumbo
>>> Caldor
>>> Zayres
>>> Montgomery Ward
>>> Filenes
>>> Edward's
>>> Finast
>>> probably a bunch of others I've missed
>> Jordan Marsh...
>>
>> Your list brings back memories.
>
> Jean, you read my mind. A tad more local, but Almacs Supermarkets,
> Bread & Circus ( bought out by Whole Paycheck), Further afield, Steve
> and Barry's <?> a sports clothes store.
>
> maxine in ri

Oh, yes, B&C--we still call Whole Foods Bread & Circus.

That reminds me... Wild Oats (dirty trick...), and, hmm, what was
the very local little chain that got bought out by B&C/WF...
Nature's Heartland.

--
Jean B.

maxine wrote:
> On Apr 5, 10:35 am, George > wrote:
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> "Becca" > wrote in message
>>>> One of my friends is visiting this weekend, and she owned a bicycle shop
>>>> until Walmart opened Her store closed one year later, along with the
>>>> store next door to her, which was a fabric store. This is why some
>>>> communities do not care for Walmart.
>>> Yet some high end bike shops are thriving. You can't compete with Wal Mart
>>> for the every day kids bike but when it comes to higher end stuff WM has
>>> nothing like it.
>> And you don't have to spend a lot more to get good quality. I am very
>> active in biking and often friends who want to get into biking will ask
>> for recommendations.
>>
>> We have two very competent reasonably priced local bike shops that will
>> spend the time to make sure you get a good fit and won't sell you a pile
>> of junk. While they have $5,000 bikes you don't have to spend a lot more
>> than wally to get a good bike. They will ignore my recommendations
>> because wally tells them they are their buddy in all of their marketing
>> and buy a POS bike that has crappy components and doesn't work smoothly
>> and maybe doesn't even fit them so they will go out one time and get
>> disgusted and never try again.
>>
>> If enough people do this the local bike shop can't keep the doors open.
>> I know the place I usually use is hinting about closing.
>
> I've not bought a new bike in 40 years, and that one was a paint-
> chipped frame that the guy made into a 5-speed for me (I never did
> like 10-speeds). The rest of our bikes over the last 20 years have
> been sidewalk specials or dumpster diving finds. Hubby usually finds
> they need some minor repairs, does them (it pays to be mechanically
> inclined) and off we go. I'm now riding a 15 speed that doesn't go
> into high gear, so it's a 10 speed. DH has one that all the folks in
> the MS 150 drool over, since it's an classic of some sort or another.
> Oh, wait. we did spend $60 for my DD's bike. Came off of Craigslist.
>
> maxine in ri

I want an old 3-speed Raleigh.

--
Jean B.

blake murphy wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:28:05 -0400, Jean B. wrote:
>
>> Tracy wrote:
>>> Jean B. wrote:
>>>> We have Shaw's too. I would be curious to know the rating of Stop &
>>>> Shop. That and Shaw's are the usual grocery stores here. Market
>>>> Basket, Trader Joe's, and Whole Foods too. The MB that is near here
>>>> is just awful, so I have an irrational prejudice against it. A pity
>>>> because it is cheaper. Therefore, I do find myself going there more
>>>> these days.
>>>>
>>> Which one is that Jean? Just curious - so I know to avoid it. We usually
>>> shop at one in Nashua.
>>>
>>> -Tracy
>> This one is in Burlington, Mass. Near the almost-closed Expo, and
>> the closed Linens n Things, if you are at all familiar with the
>> area. If you are not, perhaps you will venture out after H-Mart
>> opens. It will have a food court like our favorite Super 88. Now
>> I read it will also have nonfood stalls!!!!! I am glad I am still
>> close enough to avail myself of this!
>
> if it's anything like the h-mart near me (wheaton, md - listed as silver
> spring for some reason), you're in for a treat. jesus, they have a lot of
> stuff! it's tilted towards korean.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Yes, that is it. I am so psyched. Even moreso when I saw today
that our favorite Japanese store is closing.

--
Jean B.

Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>
>
> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:50:04 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Fred/Libby Barclay wrote:
>>>
>>>> I received my Consumer Reports magazine yesterday, and it's all about
>>>> grocery shopping and how to save.
>>>>
>>>> They surveyed 32,599 people and the rankings are based on service,
>>>> perishables (quality of meat and produce), price and cleanliness.
>>>>
>>>> They have 59 stores listed, with the highest overall score being 87 out
>>>> of 100, and the lowest being 64.
>>>>
>>>> The top ten~
>>>>
>>>> 1. Wegmans
>>>> 2. Trader Joe's
>>>
>>> For some reason i have started to get Trader Joe's catalogues in the
>>> mail, up until that happened i was curious about the stores that so
>>> many people here find fascinating.
>>>
>>> Having seen the catalogue im no longer interested. Im pretentious
>>> enough on my own, i don't need a grocery store to provide me with a
>>> patina of sophistication at inflated prices
>>
>>
>> how odd. i find their flyers surprisingly down-to-earth. you gotta
>> admit
>> they're a little different.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> I can see how some people would consider it charming, quaint etc. but it
> doesn't appeal to me.
>
> There's such a plethora of "mom & pop" type independent food merchants
> in my neighborhood i cant recall the last time i had to go out of the
> neighborhood for a food purchase.
>
> I have convinced the elderly relative there is no need to get the cheap
> turkeys during the winter holidays, her frugal nature in the past made
> them almost impossible for her to pass up, but now days i buy a 10 pound
> or so capon at a local butcher so no need to make a trip to 'safeway'.
>
> And since her Dr.'s put her on a low salt & low sugar diet i don't buy
> any packaged or processed foods anymore.
>
> Last time i fixed her favorite 'stove top stuffing' for her it sent her
> to the hospital way too much salt.
>
> Im about to start jam making in an attempt to make her jam with less
> sugar than the commercial products.
>
> Fortunately i found a peanut butter with no salt or sugar. I can make
> my own peanut butter but its tedious and im a bit concerned about
> wearing out my food processor to do so.
>
> Basically the TJ's, WHole Foods, Andronico's type 'upscale' markets
> don't appeal to me for a variety of reasons.
>
> There's a big 'supermarket' out in the far east bay in an affluent
> suburb that has wall to wall carpeting, 'gold' plated (colored) shopping
> carts with calculators & scanners built in and the time i was there a
> small 'chamber orchestra' sort of group of tuxedo clad musicians on a
> stage playing classical music. Everything there exorbitantly priced as
> you might expect, even valet parking if you desire it.
> --
> JL
>
>
That doesn't sound the least bit appealing to me.

--
Jean B.

Sqwertz > wrote:
> Fred/Libby Barclay > wrote:

> > I received my Consumer Reports magazine yesterday, and it's all about
> > grocery shopping and how to save.
> >
> > They surveyed 32,599 people and the rankings are based on service,
> > perishables (quality of meat and produce), price and cleanliness.

> The fact that they only surveyed Consumer Reports subscribers makes
> the whole survey completely flawed.

Well, certainly biased. It will tend to reflect Consumer Reports
subscribers' veiws, but that is their audience.

On the other hand, it's somewhat like their statistics on
car repair costs and reliability. Again, it's sent out to
their subscribers so the sample is biased from the get go,
but it's about the only real broad based sampling available
to the average consumer, so better than nothing or random
anecdotes on RFC.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:40:21 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes
> wrote:
>
>sf wrote:
>>
>> I always thought peanut butter was something to make using your
>> blender.
>>
>>
>I cant imagine! the blenders i have had weren't much for mixing up
>really thick substances, the food processor does a much better job.
>
>The first time i used my food processor to make peanut butter i thought
>i had set the thing on fire, smoke seemed to be curling up out of it.
>
>Fortunately i let the next batch of peanuts cool before i put them in
>the FP and they did not release any steam

How much peanut butter do you make at any one time? I'd think 1 cup
finished product would last you a week or two.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:50:43 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>>
>> Basically the TJ's, WHole Foods, Andronico's type 'upscale' markets
>> don't appeal to me for a variety of reasons.
>>
>> There's a big 'supermarket' out in the far east bay in an affluent
>> suburb that has wall to wall carpeting, 'gold' plated (colored) shopping
>> carts with calculators & scanners built in and the time i was there a
>> small 'chamber orchestra' sort of group of tuxedo clad musicians on a
>> stage playing classical music. Everything there exorbitantly priced as
>> you might expect, even valet parking if you desire it.
>> --
>> JL
>>
>>
>That doesn't sound the least bit appealing to me.

Think Nordstrom only it's a grocery store with a Beverly Hills
attitude. I don't think they've done that for years though. The
pretentiousness was back when Blackhawk developers were selling new
homes in the development (just before the official dot com bubble). I
have no idea what store occupied the space back then, but it's
Draeger's now and nothing about Draeger's can be considered
inexpensive.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:50:43 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>>> Basically the TJ's, WHole Foods, Andronico's type 'upscale' markets
>>> don't appeal to me for a variety of reasons.
>>>
>>> There's a big 'supermarket' out in the far east bay in an affluent
>>> suburb that has wall to wall carpeting, 'gold' plated (colored) shopping
>>> carts with calculators & scanners built in and the time i was there a
>>> small 'chamber orchestra' sort of group of tuxedo clad musicians on a
>>> stage playing classical music. Everything there exorbitantly priced as
>>> you might expect, even valet parking if you desire it.
>>> --
>>> JL
>>>
>>>
>> That doesn't sound the least bit appealing to me.
>
> Think Nordstrom only it's a grocery store with a Beverly Hills
> attitude. I don't think they've done that for years though. The
> pretentiousness was back when Blackhawk developers were selling new
> homes in the development (just before the official dot com bubble). I
> have no idea what store occupied the space back then, but it's
> Draeger's now and nothing about Draeger's can be considered
> inexpensive.

Nordstrom's... I was so looking forward to their opening near
here. Went just after that and have not been back since.

--
Jean B.

On Apr 5, 5:23*am, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:
> On Apr 4, 5:21*pm, notbob > wrote:
>
>
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>
>
> > On 2009-04-04, blake murphy > wrote:
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> > >> The top ten~
>
> > >> 1. Wegmans
> > >> 2. Trader Joe's
> > >> 3. Publix
> > >> 4. Raley's
> > >> 5. Harris-Teeter
> > >> 6. Fareway
> > >> 7. Costco
> > >> 8. Whole Foods
> > >> 9. Market Basket
>
> > Total crap, as usual from CR. *All those stores do the same thing. *They
> > sell loss-leader items and screw you blind on the rest. *Buy when on deep
> > sale. *Ignore the rest.
>
> Shhhh! *If there weren't folks who foolishly paid full price, you and
> I couldn't get those loss leaders.

That would be me. I shop after work on Friday. I buy what I need
when
I need it. Always the same store. Always the same brands (although
most of what I buy is produce, dairy, and meat).

Of course, if something's on sale, I might buy an extra.

> I mostly shop at Shop'n Save, a Supervalu chain.

Hiller's a regional chain of about 6 stores. (So the CR
article wasn't very useful to me.)

Cindy Hamilton

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:40:21 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes
> > wrote:
>
>>sf wrote:
>>
>>>I always thought peanut butter was something to make using your
>>>blender.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I cant imagine! the blenders i have had weren't much for mixing up
>>really thick substances, the food processor does a much better job.
>>
>>The first time i used my food processor to make peanut butter i thought
>>i had set the thing on fire, smoke seemed to be curling up out of it.
>>
>>Fortunately i let the next batch of peanuts cool before i put them in
>>the FP and they did not release any steam
>
>
> How much peanut butter do you make at any one time? I'd think 1 cup
> finished product would last you a week or two.
>

The "elderly relative' is a bit obsessive, and loves peanut butter, she
will make a meal of a cup of peanut butter.

Ever make garlic peanut butter? i can get garlic roasted peanuts in
chinatown but i prefer to use a couple of tbs. of roasted garlic in the
peanut butter. Adding a tablespoon or 2 of honey to the garlic peanut
butter is very nice.

Of course im one of "those people" who thinks anything is better with
garlic.
--
JL

Joseph wrote on Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:55:35 -0700:


I won't quote anyone but I'm glad the Consumer Reports thread arose. I
had forgotten to renew my subscription, or perhaps, the postcard went
astray!
--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not