With there having been several posts and threads about
frugal meals and cooking in hard times, I came across a
link to a collection of 100 recipes to feed the family for under $10
No, I'm not associated with Campbell's or any other web site
just found something that may help someone or give them ideas
CC

http://food.aol.com:80/frugal-feasts...usfood00000001

On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:54:01 GMT, "CC"
> wrote:

>With there having been several posts and threads about
>frugal meals and cooking in hard times, I came across a
>link to a collection of 100 recipes to feed the family for under $10
>No, I'm not associated with Campbell's or any other web site
>just found something that may help someone or give them ideas
>CC
>
>http://food.aol.com:80/frugal-feasts...usfood00000001

Thanks for posting. After digging around the site for a while, I
stumbled upon the Campbell's sponsored recipes, but there is more to
the site than that. I clicked on the chicken/Broccoli Rabe over penne
pasta and there was no canned soup, just a few simple ingredients.
It's a doable recipe for me and I'm looking for lots of chicken
recipes these days, so thanks again.

Because Easter is coming up and I always have lamb on Easter, so I
snagged the Moroccan Rub for roasted lamb recipe too. Thanks again.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:54:01 GMT, "CC"
> wrote:

>With there having been several posts and threads about
>frugal meals and cooking in hard times

but do remember only go this way if times are personally hard, the
recession is partly caused by people in jobs stopping spending.

"sf" ha scritto nel messaggio

> Because Easter is coming up and I always have lamb on Easter, so I>
> snagged the Moroccan Rub for roasted lamb recipe too. Thanks again.

Lamb is my favorite meat. I often do a rub from Moroccan recipes, but in
December I tried chermoula and I have never had such delicious lamb! I used
this recipe: http://www.thegutsygourmet.net/chermoula-lamb.html

I even had to make the harissa from scratch but it was easy to do. The
chermoula is sort of curry yellow, but doesn't taste like it or anything
I've had before. I had to cook 2 legs because they are tiny here (about
2-2.5 pounds each) so I tripled the chermoula but could have merely doubled
it.

Mike™ wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:54:01 GMT, "CC"
> > wrote:
>
>> With there having been several posts and threads about
>> frugal meals and cooking in hard times
>
> but do remember only go this way if times are personally hard, the
> recession is partly caused by people in jobs stopping spending.

Yes, one of the biggest problems right now is the unnecessary erosion of
confidence by the left leaning media who endlessly proclaim "it's
terrible, don't go outside". This is not to diminish anyones personal
situation but not everyone was thrown under the bus or is in danger of
that happening.

On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:47:37 -0400, George wrote:

> Mike„¢ wrote:
>> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:54:01 GMT, "CC"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> With there having been several posts and threads about
>>> frugal meals and cooking in hard times
>>
>> but do remember only go this way if times are personally hard, the
>> recession is partly caused by people in jobs stopping spending.
>
> Yes, one of the biggest problems right now is the unnecessary erosion of
> confidence by the left leaning media who endlessly proclaim "it's
> terrible, don't go outside". This is not to diminish anyones personal
> situation but not everyone was thrown under the bus or is in danger of
> that happening.

jesus, george. the media are reporting it as the worst financial crisis
since the depression because it *is* the worst financial crisis since the
depression.

also, no seriously one believes the media is 'left-leaning' except right
wingers. look at the political talk shows they are still apt to have on
more republicans than democrats.

blake

On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:47:03 +0200, "Giusi" > wrote:

>
>"sf" ha scritto nel messaggio
>
>> Because Easter is coming up and I always have lamb on Easter, so I>
>> snagged the Moroccan Rub for roasted lamb recipe too. Thanks again.
>
>Lamb is my favorite meat. I often do a rub from Moroccan recipes, but in
>December I tried chermoula and I have never had such delicious lamb! I used
>this recipe: http://www.thegutsygourmet.net/chermoula-lamb.html
>
>I even had to make the harissa from scratch but it was easy to do. The
>chermoula is sort of curry yellow, but doesn't taste like it or anything
>I've had before. I had to cook 2 legs because they are tiny here (about
>2-2.5 pounds each) so I tripled the chermoula but could have merely doubled
>it.
>
Thanks for the recommendation! I like cilantro, but have never tried
harissa. I used to make a marinade with a chili paste I can't find
anymore. It was very, very thick - like tomato paste.

Here's the recipe if you ever stumble across it.

2 cloves garlic
1T soy
1T chili paste with garlic
1 T rice vinegar
2t (asian) sesame oil

Sometimes, I'd add hoisin. Hoisin seems to go with everything.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:47:37 -0400, George wrote:

> > Yes, one of the biggest problems right now is the unnecessary erosion of
> > confidence by the left leaning media

There's an enormous erosion of confidence. I wonder why that could be?
Maybe all those people who are losing their jobs, unexpectedly? Of
course, before the crisis, people would just find another job. Now,
there aren't many jobs, especially ones that pay as well as they ones
that were lost.

> jesus, george. the media are reporting it as the worst financial crisis
> since the depression because it *is* the worst financial crisis since the
> depression.
>
> also, no seriously one believes the media is 'left-leaning' except right
> wingers.

And all the left wingers are convinced that the media is all
right-leaning. Perhaps the truth lies in between?

> look at the political talk shows they are still apt to have on
> more republicans than democrats.

That's because only idiots listen to political talk shows.

:-)

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

"[Don't] assume that someone is "broken" just because they behave in ways
you don't like or don't understand." --Miche

George wrote:

> Mike™ wrote:
> > On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:54:01 GMT, "CC"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> With there having been several posts and threads about
> >> frugal meals and cooking in hard times
> >
> > but do remember only go this way if times are personally hard, the
> > recession is partly caused by people in jobs stopping spending.
>
> Yes, one of the biggest problems right now is the unnecessary erosion of
> confidence by the left leaning media who endlessly proclaim "it's
> terrible, don't go outside". This is not to diminish anyones personal
> situation but not everyone was thrown under the bus or is in danger of
> that happening.


Leftists HATE America, George...

Every time something bad happens the leftist media cackles with glee, like
mean old Mr. Potter did in _It's A Wonderful Life_ when he was about to
foreclose on some poor innocent sap...

If you listen to them you'd think everyone was in a soup line and living in
a tent city, but it simply ain't so. Frex this morning one report said that
almost half of the peeps that have lost their jobs in the last few months
have found new ones...there are a number of other positive indicators, too.


--
Best
Greg

"The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money."~~~~Margaret Thatcher

blake murphy wrote:

> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:47:37 -0400, George wrote:
>
> > MikeT wrote:
> >> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:54:01 GMT, "CC"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> With there having been several posts and threads about
> >>> frugal meals and cooking in hard times
> >>
> >> but do remember only go this way if times are personally hard, the
> >> recession is partly caused by people in jobs stopping spending.
> >
> > Yes, one of the biggest problems right now is the unnecessary erosion of
> > confidence by the left leaning media who endlessly proclaim "it's
> > terrible, don't go outside". This is not to diminish anyones personal
> > situation but not everyone was thrown under the bus or is in danger of
> > that happening.
>
> jesus, george. the media are reporting it as the worst financial crisis
> since the depression because it *is* the worst financial crisis since the
> depression.


It's not even as bad as the '82-83 recession, blake...


> also, no seriously one believes the media is 'left-leaning' except right
> wingers. look at the political talk shows they are still apt to have on
> more republicans than democrats.


What "political talk shows" are those, blake...you DO watch them on a
regular basis - *right*...???


--
Best
Greg

sf wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:47:03 +0200, "Giusi" > wrote:
>
>> "sf" ha scritto nel messaggio
>>
>>> Because Easter is coming up and I always have lamb on Easter, so I>
>>> snagged the Moroccan Rub for roasted lamb recipe too. Thanks again.
>> Lamb is my favorite meat. I often do a rub from Moroccan recipes, but in
>> December I tried chermoula and I have never had such delicious lamb! I used
>> this recipe: http://www.thegutsygourmet.net/chermoula-lamb.html
>>
>> I even had to make the harissa from scratch but it was easy to do. The
>> chermoula is sort of curry yellow, but doesn't taste like it or anything
>> I've had before. I had to cook 2 legs because they are tiny here (about
>> 2-2.5 pounds each) so I tripled the chermoula but could have merely doubled
>> it.
>>
> Thanks for the recommendation! I like cilantro, but have never tried
> harissa. I used to make a marinade with a chili paste I can't find
> anymore. It was very, very thick - like tomato paste.
>
> Here's the recipe if you ever stumble across it.
>
> 2 cloves garlic
> 1T soy
> 1T chili paste with garlic
> 1 T rice vinegar
> 2t (asian) sesame oil
>
> Sometimes, I'd add hoisin. Hoisin seems to go with everything.
>
Gee, I am surprised you can't find this. The brand is Lan Chi,
IIRC. That may help. I guess I'm glad I have a jar I just opened
recently if it is going to be hard or impossible to find.

--
Jean B.

Mike™ wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:54:01 GMT, "CC"
> > wrote:
>
>> With there having been several posts and threads about
>> frugal meals and cooking in hard times
>
> but do remember only go this way if times are personally hard, the
> recession is partly caused by people in jobs stopping spending.


Isn't it amazing that a very few years ago they blamed all
of our
economy's problems on people not SAVING enough?

Today when people spend, most of what is available to buy is
made
in China anyway, so that hurts us more in balance of payments.

gloria p

On Apr 8, 2:00*pm, Dan Abel > wrote:
> In article >,
>
>
> That's because only idiots listen to political talk shows.

What about Diane Rehm? That's not aimed at idiots. Neither is the
Political Junkie on TotN. It's *commercial* talk radio that's aimed
at idiots.
>
> :-)
>
> --
> Dan Abel

--Bryan

In article
>,
Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:

> On Apr 8, 2:00*pm, Dan Abel > wrote:

> > That's because only idiots listen to political talk shows.
>
> What about Diane Rehm? That's not aimed at idiots. Neither is the
> Political Junkie on TotN. It's *commercial* talk radio that's aimed
> at idiots.

> > :-)

It was supposed to be a joke, even though it wasn't very funny.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

"[Don't] assume that someone is "broken" just because they behave in ways
you don't like or don't understand." --Miche

blake murphy wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:47:37 -0400, George wrote:
>
>> Mike„¢ wrote:
>>> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:54:01 GMT, "CC"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> With there having been several posts and threads about
>>>> frugal meals and cooking in hard times
>>> but do remember only go this way if times are personally hard, the
>>> recession is partly caused by people in jobs stopping spending.
>> Yes, one of the biggest problems right now is the unnecessary erosion of
>> confidence by the left leaning media who endlessly proclaim "it's
>> terrible, don't go outside". This is not to diminish anyones personal
>> situation but not everyone was thrown under the bus or is in danger of
>> that happening.
>
> jesus, george. the media are reporting it as the worst financial crisis
> since the depression because it *is* the worst financial crisis since the
> depression.

Answer me this. Why are extreme left wingers so reading challenged that
everything they read is perceived as an attack. I did write this: "This
is not to diminish anyones personal situation but not everyone was
thrown under the bus or is in danger of that happening."

>
> also, no seriously one believes the media is 'left-leaning' except right
> wingers. look at the political talk shows they are still apt to have on
> more republicans than democrats.
>

Not talking about intentional political programming. The usual
mainstream programs such as the today show definitely tilt to the left
and the few times I caught snippets recently it is always "the sky is
falling in for everyone in these terrible times..." And as I said this
is not to minimize anyone who has hard times. Lots of folks don't and
have no real reason to hide under the bed with their money.

I am pretty much a political moderate tending towards libertarian. I
seldom listen or watch political talk shows because the mindless intense
red kool/blue kool aid drinkers are a turn off.

> blake

On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:57:05 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>Gee, I am surprised you can't find this. The brand is Lan Chi,
>IIRC. That may help. I guess I'm glad I have a jar I just opened
>recently if it is going to be hard or impossible to find.

Are you sure it's paste and not sauce? I can find chili *sauce* with
garlic very easily. It's not the same taste.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Apr 8, 6:46*pm, Dan Abel > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> *Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:
>
> > On Apr 8, 2:00*pm, Dan Abel > wrote:
> > > That's because only idiots listen to political talk shows.
>
> > What about Diane Rehm? *That's not aimed at idiots. *Neither is the
> > Political Junkie on TotN. *It's *commercial* talk radio that's aimed
> > at idiots.
> > > :-)
>
> It was supposed to be a joke, even though it wasn't very funny.

Listening to obnoxious idealogues, even Progressives who I'd agree
with, is idiotic.

I think that Franken will be a good Senator, but listen to his show?
No way. I want to hear calm, polite discourse. I want there to be
someone there from Heritage, Club for Growth, and Cato, balanced by
Brookings, The Nation or Mother Jones magazines, etc. That's what
they do on Diane Rehm. David Corn and David Brooks *politely*
disagreeing about things they really disagree on, and sometimes
agreeing on things that many Conservatives and many Liberals do agree
on. They go into detail, and presume that their audience is bright
enough to detect outright deception. NPR/PRI/BBC is so much more
civilized than any commercial media, and while NPR's audience does
skew a bit Liberal, it's not extreme, and the nation's GOP leaders and
spokespersons get equal time, and are treated with equal respect.

Hey, a related topic, how 'bout that Eric Holder, dismissing all
charges against Ted Stevens because of prosecutorial misconduct? Is
that something that Gregory and Blake can agree was a good thing?
There are some Justice Dept. lawyers who might find themselves in deep
doodoo. Prosecutors are supposed to seek justice, not convictions. I
hope this is the first of thousands of exonerations or retrials in
cases where prosecutors withheld exculpatory evidence. I'd like to
see egregious prosecutorial misconduct at any level be made a Federal
crime. By that I mean real, beyond a reasonable doubt, willful
misconduct, rather than mere sloppiness. Sloppiness in serious
felonies, especially capital cases should result in disbarment, but
real misconduct in a capital case should carry a life sentence. Not
life w/o parole, mind you, but a prosecutor who doesn't give a
defendant who could be executed a fair chance to prove his/her
innocence should be treated like an attempted murderer.
>
> --
> Dan Abel

--Bryan

Gregory Morrow wrote:
> blake murphy wrote:

>> jesus, george. the media are reporting it as the worst financial crisis
>> since the depression because it *is* the worst financial crisis since the
>> depression.
>
>
> It's not even as bad as the '82-83 recession, blake...
>
>


What planet are you on, Greg? Millions of people are out of
work and losing their homes,
businesses are closing left and right. Have you been to a
restaurant lately? They are like ghost
towns and offering specials all over the place to get people
in the doors.

gloria p

On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:47:03 +0200, "Giusi" > wrote:

>
>"sf" ha scritto nel messaggio
>
>> Because Easter is coming up and I always have lamb on Easter, so I>
>> snagged the Moroccan Rub for roasted lamb recipe too. Thanks again.
>
>Lamb is my favorite meat. I often do a rub from Moroccan recipes, but in
>December I tried chermoula and I have never had such delicious lamb! I used
>this recipe: http://www.thegutsygourmet.net/chermoula-lamb.html
>
>I even had to make the harissa from scratch but it was easy to do. The
>chermoula is sort of curry yellow, but doesn't taste like it or anything
>I've had before. I had to cook 2 legs because they are tiny here (about
>2-2.5 pounds each) so I tripled the chermoula but could have merely doubled
>it.
>
The recipe looks delicious. Thanks.
--

modom

Puester wrote:
>
> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> > blake murphy wrote:
>
> >> jesus, george. the media are reporting it as the worst financial crisis
> >> since the depression because it *is* the worst financial crisis since the
> >> depression.
> >
> >
> > It's not even as bad as the '82-83 recession, blake...
> >
> >
>
> What planet are you on, Greg? Millions of people are out of
> work and losing their homes,
> businesses are closing left and right. Have you been to a
> restaurant lately? They are like ghost
> towns and offering specials all over the place to get people
> in the doors.

He might be in Texas. Those doom and gloom media claims sure don't seem
reflect the reality here, not even close.

Puester wrote:

> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> > blake murphy wrote:
>
> >> jesus, george. the media are reporting it as the worst financial
crisis
> >> since the depression because it *is* the worst financial crisis since
the
> >> depression.
> >
> >
> > It's not even as bad as the '82-83 recession, blake...
> >
> >
>
>
> What planet are you on, Greg? Millions of people are out of
> work and losing their homes,
> businesses are closing left and right.


I live in Chicago, and in the early 80's Chicago was the buckle of the Rust
Belt...unemployment in the this SMSA was almost 13%...in downstate Illinois
in some areas it was around 20%. The Midwest was HAMMERED by the
manufacturing crisis and also by the farm crisis...

I got canned from my job in late '82, and lemme tell ya, if it had not been
for some help from my family I would have been on the streets, there were NO
jobs available at all, not even menial ones.

NPR and other outlets this morning reported that 49% of those that have lost
their jobs recently have found new ones...some of those jobs are not as
highly paid, some are not full-time, but 15% found *higher-paying* gigs...

Fortunately our Chicago economy diversified; there are still "help wanted"
signs out there, even though these are not dream jobs if you want to work
there is *something* to do. That was simply not the case in the early
80's...

Many made foolish and immature decisions their finances, many of those
foreclosed upon had no business getting a mortgage in the first place,
others over-extended to afford lifestyles which they could not sustain. We
are seeing the fallout from that. It's ugly, sure, but hopefully some will
learn a lesson from this...we shall see.


Have you been to a
> restaurant lately? They are like ghost
> towns and offering specials all over the place to get people
> in the doors.


And there are plenty of restos that are thriving, some are doing better than
ever, and I know tons of folks in the F&B business. The key is to offer
good value and good service...

Pay close attention to the economic indicators, all is not gloom and doom.
I laffed when one prognosticator in January said that the very worst will be
over by May, but maybe he was not talking in jest. Of course unemployment
will continue to increase, but that is one indicator that "lags"...

Peeps toss around the term "Depression" but go back and read some history,
we are nowhere *near* a Depression...better yet, talk to some folks who
lived through the Depression, that'll put our present crisis in context.


--
Best
Greg

"The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money."~~~~Margaret Thatcher

"sf" ha scritto nel messaggio
"Giusi" wrote:
>>"sf" ha scritto nel messaggio
>>
>>> Because Easter is coming up and I always have lamb on Easter, so I>
>>> snagged the Moroccan Rub for roasted lamb recipe too. Thanks again.
>>
>>Lamb is my favorite meat. I often do a rub from Moroccan recipes, but in
>> >>December I tried chermoula and I have never had such delicious lamb! I
>>used
>>this recipe: http://www.thegutsygourmet.net/chermoula-lamb.html

> Thanks for the recommendation! I like cilantro, but have never tried
> harissa.

I now make harissa in small quantities and keep it in a fridge conatiner. I
find it useful when experimenting, and have to go to Florence or Rome to get
chili garlic paste. I had to use dried cilantro, but it was still good.

I used to make a marinade with a chili paste I can't find
> anymore. It was very, very thick - like tomato paste.
>
> Here's the recipe if you ever stumble across it.
>
> 2 cloves garlic
> 1T soy
> 1T chili paste with garlic
> 1 T rice vinegar
> 2t (asian) sesame oil
>
> Sometimes, I'd add hoisin. Hoisin seems to go with everything.

Hoisin ice cream, shal l we call David Lebovitz?
I saved the marinade and will use it next time I do chops. Thanks!

sf wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:57:05 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> Gee, I am surprised you can't find this. The brand is Lan Chi,
>> IIRC. That may help. I guess I'm glad I have a jar I just opened
>> recently if it is going to be hard or impossible to find.
>
> Are you sure it's paste and not sauce? I can find chili *sauce* with
> garlic very easily. It's not the same taste.
>
Yes, it's paste.

--
Jean B.

"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
...
>
> Puester wrote:
>
>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>> > blake murphy wrote:
>>
>> >> jesus, george. the media are reporting it as the worst financial
> crisis
>> >> since the depression because it *is* the worst financial crisis since
> the
>> >> depression.
>> >
>> >
>> > It's not even as bad as the '82-83 recession, blake...
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> What planet are you on, Greg? Millions of people are out of
>> work and losing their homes,
>> businesses are closing left and right.
>
>
> I live in Chicago, and in the early 80's Chicago was the buckle of the
> Rust
> Belt...unemployment in the this SMSA was almost 13%...in downstate
> Illinois
> in some areas it was around 20%. The Midwest was HAMMERED by the
> manufacturing crisis and also by the farm crisis...
>
> I got canned from my job in late '82, and lemme tell ya, if it had not
> been
> for some help from my family I would have been on the streets, there were
> NO
> jobs available at all, not even menial ones.
>
> NPR and other outlets this morning reported that 49% of those that have
> lost
> their jobs recently have found new ones...some of those jobs are not as
> highly paid, some are not full-time, but 15% found *higher-paying* gigs...
>
> Fortunately our Chicago economy diversified; there are still "help wanted"
> signs out there, even though these are not dream jobs if you want to work
> there is *something* to do. That was simply not the case in the early
> 80's...
>
> Many made foolish and immature decisions their finances, many of those
> foreclosed upon had no business getting a mortgage in the first place,
> others over-extended to afford lifestyles which they could not sustain.
> We
> are seeing the fallout from that. It's ugly, sure, but hopefully some
> will
> learn a lesson from this...we shall see.
>
>
> Have you been to a
>> restaurant lately? They are like ghost
>> towns and offering specials all over the place to get people
>> in the doors.
>
>
> And there are plenty of restos that are thriving, some are doing better
> than
> ever, and I know tons of folks in the F&B business. The key is to offer
> good value and good service...
>
> Pay close attention to the economic indicators, all is not gloom and doom.
> I laffed when one prognosticator in January said that the very worst will
> be
> over by May, but maybe he was not talking in jest. Of course unemployment
> will continue to increase, but that is one indicator that "lags"...
>
> Peeps toss around the term "Depression" but go back and read some history,
> we are nowhere *near* a Depression...better yet, talk to some folks who
> lived through the Depression, that'll put our present crisis in context.
>
>
>
Today folks think there's a depression because they have to choose between a
cruise to the Bahamas or a new Beemer, because they have to cut back on
sessions at the hair salon, the hot stone massage parlor, and manicures,
pedicures, and hot wax pubic treatments... because their kids have to share
a PC... during the great depression three kids had to share one pair of
shoes, and that was just urban kids, hillybillys never had shoes on their
feet until they were GI issue. There's no depression, not even close...
when folks are logged on to an ISP 24/7, think a cell phone is as essential
to life as water, and consider a job at wally world is like mining in
Siberia there's no depression, not even a recession, they're just spoiled
rotten. Truth is anyone who is living on poverty's edge today was living
there when the economy was booming too, the have nots are have nots for a
reason, they're lazy and stupid, and SPOILED. My parents lived through the
Great Depression, they were embarrassed to say how bad it really was, what
people did to survive .

On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:04:13 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:57:05 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>>> Gee, I am surprised you can't find this. The brand is Lan Chi,
>>> IIRC. That may help. I guess I'm glad I have a jar I just opened
>>> recently if it is going to be hard or impossible to find.
>>
>> Are you sure it's paste and not sauce? I can find chili *sauce* with
>> garlic very easily. It's not the same taste.
>>
>Yes, it's paste.

Great! Where do you find it?

I used to just pick it up at my regular market. I found a thread on
ChowHound that tells me I'm not crazy... it *is* hard to find here.
Other threads I found say it's hard to find elsewhere too.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sf wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:04:13 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:57:05 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gee, I am surprised you can't find this. The brand is Lan Chi,
>>>> IIRC. That may help. I guess I'm glad I have a jar I just opened
>>>> recently if it is going to be hard or impossible to find.
>>> Are you sure it's paste and not sauce? I can find chili *sauce* with
>>> garlic very easily. It's not the same taste.
>>>
>> Yes, it's paste.
>
> Great! Where do you find it?
>
> I used to just pick it up at my regular market. I found a thread on
> ChowHound that tells me I'm not crazy... it *is* hard to find here.
> Other threads I found say it's hard to find elsewhere too.
>
Whole Foods. And I deliberately looked for it today, and there it
was, restocked. Do you have access to WF?

I consider this paste to be kind-of a staple of Sichuan cooking.
It probably was the first more-authentic ingredient I found, which
was vastly better than the red pepper flakes that one had to
resort to a really long time ago. Of course, one can now buy
chili* sauce with beans, which I guess is an even better thing to
use, and I do also use that.

(*I forget how it is spelled on the cans and jars--may be chillie?
I don't think it's chile though)

--
Jean B.

On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:54:01 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>Whole Foods. And I deliberately looked for it today, and there it
>was, restocked. Do you have access to WF?

Not easily, but thanks for the pointer!

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:23:12 -0700 (PDT), Bobo Bonobo® wrote:

> On Apr 8, 6:46*pm, Dan Abel > wrote:
>> In article
>> >,
>> *Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2:00*pm, Dan Abel > wrote:
>>> > That's because only idiots listen to political talk shows.
>>
>>> What about Diane Rehm? *That's not aimed at idiots. *Neither is the
>>> Political Junkie on TotN. *It's *commercial* talk radio that's aimed
>>> at idiots.
>>> > :-)
>>
>> It was supposed to be a joke, even though it wasn't very funny.
>
> Listening to obnoxious idealogues, even Progressives who I'd agree
> with, is idiotic.
>
> I think that Franken will be a good Senator, but listen to his show?
> No way. I want to hear calm, polite discourse. I want there to be
> someone there from Heritage, Club for Growth, and Cato, balanced by
> Brookings, The Nation or Mother Jones magazines, etc. That's what
> they do on Diane Rehm. David Corn and David Brooks *politely*
> disagreeing about things they really disagree on, and sometimes
> agreeing on things that many Conservatives and many Liberals do agree
> on. They go into detail, and presume that their audience is bright
> enough to detect outright deception. NPR/PRI/BBC is so much more
> civilized than any commercial media, and while NPR's audience does
> skew a bit Liberal, it's not extreme, and the nation's GOP leaders and
> spokespersons get equal time, and are treated with equal respect.
>
> Hey, a related topic, how 'bout that Eric Holder, dismissing all
> charges against Ted Stevens because of prosecutorial misconduct? Is
> that something that Gregory and Blake can agree was a good thing?

yes, it was a good thing. maybe it presages that the obama justice
department will be different from bush's.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:06:36 -0400, George wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:47:37 -0400, George wrote:
>>
>>> Mike„¢ wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:54:01 GMT, "CC"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> With there having been several posts and threads about
>>>>> frugal meals and cooking in hard times
>>>> but do remember only go this way if times are personally hard, the
>>>> recession is partly caused by people in jobs stopping spending.
>>> Yes, one of the biggest problems right now is the unnecessary erosion of
>>> confidence by the left leaning media who endlessly proclaim "it's
>>> terrible, don't go outside". This is not to diminish anyones personal
>>> situation but not everyone was thrown under the bus or is in danger of
>>> that happening.
>>
>> jesus, george. the media are reporting it as the worst financial crisis
>> since the depression because it *is* the worst financial crisis since the
>> depression.
>
> Answer me this. Why are extreme left wingers so reading challenged that
> everything they read is perceived as an attack. I did write this: "This
> is not to diminish anyones personal situation but not everyone was
> thrown under the bus or is in danger of that happening."

you wrote immediately beforehand

>>>Yes, one of the biggest problems right now is the unnecessary erosion of
>>> confidence by the left leaning media who endlessly proclaim "it's
>>> terrible, don't go outside".

....and i called bullshit. i'm not reading challenged, maybe you are. do
you even read your own stuff?

blake

On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:00:09 -0700, Dan Abel wrote:

> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:47:37 -0400, George wrote:
>
>>> Yes, one of the biggest problems right now is the unnecessary erosion of
>>> confidence by the left leaning media
>
> There's an enormous erosion of confidence. I wonder why that could be?
> Maybe all those people who are losing their jobs, unexpectedly? Of
> course, before the crisis, people would just find another job. Now,
> there aren't many jobs, especially ones that pay as well as they ones
> that were lost.
>
>> jesus, george. the media are reporting it as the worst financial crisis
>> since the depression because it *is* the worst financial crisis since the
>> depression.
>>
>> also, no seriously one believes the media is 'left-leaning' except right
>> wingers.
>
> And all the left wingers are convinced that the media is all
> right-leaning. Perhaps the truth lies in between?
>

given the fact that the mainstream media kissed george bush's ass for eight
years, and three months into obama's administration there is already talk
of 'an administration if crisis,' i don't think so.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:

> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:00:09 -0700, Dan Abel wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > blake murphy > wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:47:37 -0400, George wrote:
> >
> >>> Yes, one of the biggest problems right now is the unnecessary erosion
of
> >>> confidence by the left leaning media
> >
> > There's an enormous erosion of confidence. I wonder why that could be?
> > Maybe all those people who are losing their jobs, unexpectedly? Of
> > course, before the crisis, people would just find another job. Now,
> > there aren't many jobs, especially ones that pay as well as they ones
> > that were lost.
> >
> >> jesus, george. the media are reporting it as the worst financial
crisis
> >> since the depression because it *is* the worst financial crisis since
the
> >> depression.
> >>
> >> also, no seriously one believes the media is 'left-leaning' except
right
> >> wingers.
> >
> > And all the left wingers are convinced that the media is all
> > right-leaning. Perhaps the truth lies in between?
> >
>
> given the fact that the mainstream media kissed george bush's ass for
eight
> years, and three months into obama's administration there is already talk
> of 'an administration if crisis,' i don't think so.


W0w, blake, "the mainstream media kissed george bush's ass for eight
years..."...??? You must have seen a different "mainstream" media than I
did, I saw pretty much nothing but ridicule and disdain from the major press
organs, and the derision started even before he took office...even the
common term "Bush regime" is indicative of the ridicule which was heaped
upon him.


--
Best
Greg

"The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money."~~~~Margaret Thatcher

blake wrote:

> given the fact that the mainstream media kissed george bush's
> ass for eight years

I don't think I'll take that as a given, unless by the term "mainstream
media" you mean Fox News and ONLY Fox News. Most news programs I watched
during the Bush administration rightly portrayed Bush as a lazy and greedy
dunce, horribly unqualified for the job to which he'd been elected, and
whose efforts were mainly directed toward enriching his cronies.

I *was* both surprised and impressed at how eco-friendly the Crawford ranch
was, especially by comparison with Al Gore's conspicuously-consuming mansion
in Tennessee.

Bob

On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:36:23 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:04:13 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>>sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:57:05 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gee, I am surprised you can't find this. The brand is Lan Chi,
>>>> IIRC. That may help. I guess I'm glad I have a jar I just opened
>>>> recently if it is going to be hard or impossible to find.
>>>
>>> Are you sure it's paste and not sauce? I can find chili *sauce* with
>>> garlic very easily. It's not the same taste.
>>>
>>Yes, it's paste.
>
> Great! Where do you find it?
>
> I used to just pick it up at my regular market. I found a thread on
> ChowHound that tells me I'm not crazy... it *is* hard to find here.
> Other threads I found say it's hard to find elsewhere too.

whereat is 'here'? there should be a staggering variety at any asian
market.

jean b. - i have a jar of the lan chi in my refrigerator. what do you
usually use it for?

i usually find myself using the szechuan brand hot bean paste:

<http://www.myethnicworld.com/p-632-bean-sauce-hot-szechuan-style.aspx>

....which also comes in a smaller-sized can. the sweet bean is good, too.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:55:41 -0700, Bob Terwilliger wrote:

> blake wrote:
>
>> given the fact that the mainstream media kissed george bush's
>> ass for eight years
>
> I don't think I'll take that as a given, unless by the term "mainstream
> media" you mean Fox News and ONLY Fox News. Most news programs I watched
> during the Bush administration rightly portrayed Bush as a lazy and greedy
> dunce, horribly unqualified for the job to which he'd been elected, and
> whose efforts were mainly directed toward enriching his cronies.
>
> I *was* both surprised and impressed at how eco-friendly the Crawford ranch
> was, especially by comparison with Al Gore's conspicuously-consuming mansion
> in Tennessee.
>
> Bob

really? i don't watch fox news, but the *washington post* and *new york
times*, allegedly 'liberal' outposts, backed the invasion of iraq 110%, and
generally treated bush with respect.

i would like to some cites from the mainstream media (except for a few
columnists, who were vastly outnumbered by the likes of charles krauthammer
and bill kristol) saying those things, at least for the first six years of
the administration.

instead, those who opposed the war and the eavesdropping were derided as
kooks.

blake

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:32:29 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>whereat is 'here'?

Here is my neighborhood in San Francisco. That's where I found it
before. I didn't have to make a special trip.

>there should be a staggering variety at any asian market.

1. I don't shop at Asian markets. I will when I have more time
again, but not now. I haven't even been to Ranch 99 in a couple of
years.
2. I can find chili and garlic sauce easily, not the paste. I'm
looking for the stuff that is the consistency of tomato paste.


--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

blake murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:36:23 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:04:13 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:57:05 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gee, I am surprised you can't find this. The brand is Lan Chi,
>>>>> IIRC. That may help. I guess I'm glad I have a jar I just opened
>>>>> recently if it is going to be hard or impossible to find.
>>>> Are you sure it's paste and not sauce? I can find chili *sauce* with
>>>> garlic very easily. It's not the same taste.
>>>>
>>> Yes, it's paste.
>> Great! Where do you find it?
>>
>> I used to just pick it up at my regular market. I found a thread on
>> ChowHound that tells me I'm not crazy... it *is* hard to find here.
>> Other threads I found say it's hard to find elsewhere too.
>
> whereat is 'here'? there should be a staggering variety at any asian
> market.
>
> jean b. - i have a jar of the lan chi in my refrigerator. what do you
> usually use it for?
>
> i usually find myself using the szechuan brand hot bean paste:
>
> <http://www.myethnicworld.com/p-632-bean-sauce-hot-szechuan-style.aspx>
>
> ...which also comes in a smaller-sized can. the sweet bean is good, too.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Oh, gee. Probably stuff off the top of my head now. It seems to
me one of my Chinese cookbooks, that was on the cusp of the red
pepper flake and paste/sauce revolution called for this. I'll
have to unbury those books and look. I think you have Delfs, so
it must not be that. Do you have Mrs. Chiang?

--
Jean B.

blake murphy wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:55:41 -0700, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>
> > blake wrote:
> >
> >> given the fact that the mainstream media kissed george bush's
> >> ass for eight years
> >
> > I don't think I'll take that as a given, unless by the term "mainstream
> > media" you mean Fox News and ONLY Fox News. Most news programs I watched
> > during the Bush administration rightly portrayed Bush as a lazy and
greedy
> > dunce, horribly unqualified for the job to which he'd been elected, and
> > whose efforts were mainly directed toward enriching his cronies.
> >
> > I *was* both surprised and impressed at how eco-friendly the Crawford
ranch
> > was, especially by comparison with Al Gore's conspicuously-consuming
mansion
> > in Tennessee.
> >
> > Bob
>
> really? i don't watch fox news, but the *washington post* and *new york
> times*, allegedly 'liberal' outposts, backed the invasion of iraq 110%,
and
> generally treated bush with respect.
>
> i would like to some cites from the mainstream media (except for a few
> columnists, who were vastly outnumbered by the likes of charles
krauthammer
> and bill kristol) saying those things, at least for the first six years of
> the administration.
>
> instead, those who opposed the war and the eavesdropping were derided as
> kooks.


Which as it turns out they *were*, blake...

We WON the war in Iraq, and the result is that there is now a parliamentary
democracy in Iraq, the very first such parliamentary democracy in the
Islamic Middle East...

It's a long, slow, and sometimes bloody process, but anything worthwhile is
never easy...

As for the "eavesdropping" issue, who cares? It was simply a measure to
help us to increase our security...did it affect you *personally*...???

blake, I look favorably upon you in general, but politics-wise you strike me
as one of those leftist "moonbats"...you are welcome to your opinions, but
they are just that - *opinions*. You are naive in the extreme when it comes
to matters political, you are a liberal, and liberalism is simply an
advanced form of emotional immaturity...it's a simplistic way of looking at
complicated issues and problems. I know you are smarter than that, so STOP
with the leftist "party line" jazz and start usin' yer noggin...the whole
world is not some right-wing conspiracy *against* you! You know better than
to engage in "victim politics"...there is nothing more degrading in life
than positing yourself as a "victim"...it's a CRUMMY way to live.


--
Best
Greg

"The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money."~~~~Margaret Thatcher

"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>
> blake murphy wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:55:41 -0700, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>>
>> > blake wrote:
>> >
>> >> given the fact that the mainstream media kissed george bush's
>> >> ass for eight years
>> >
>> > I don't think I'll take that as a given, unless by the term "mainstream
>> > media" you mean Fox News and ONLY Fox News. Most news programs I
>> > watched
>> > during the Bush administration rightly portrayed Bush as a lazy and
> greedy
>> > dunce, horribly unqualified for the job to which he'd been elected, and
>> > whose efforts were mainly directed toward enriching his cronies.
>> >
>> > I *was* both surprised and impressed at how eco-friendly the Crawford
> ranch
>> > was, especially by comparison with Al Gore's conspicuously-consuming
> mansion
>> > in Tennessee.
>> >
>> > Bob
>>
>> really? i don't watch fox news, but the *washington post* and *new york
>> times*, allegedly 'liberal' outposts, backed the invasion of iraq 110%,
> and
>> generally treated bush with respect.
>>
>> i would like to some cites from the mainstream media (except for a few
>> columnists, who were vastly outnumbered by the likes of charles
> krauthammer
>> and bill kristol) saying those things, at least for the first six years
>> of
>> the administration.
>>
>> instead, those who opposed the war and the eavesdropping were derided as
>> kooks.
>
>
> Which as it turns out they *were*, blake...
>
> We WON the war in Iraq, and the result is that there is now a
> parliamentary
> democracy in Iraq, the very first such parliamentary democracy in the
> Islamic Middle East...
>
> It's a long, slow, and sometimes bloody process, but anything worthwhile
> is
> never easy...
>
> As for the "eavesdropping" issue, who cares? It was simply a measure to
> help us to increase our security...did it affect you *personally*...???
>
> blake, I look favorably upon you in general, but politics-wise you strike
> me
> as one of those leftist "moonbats"...you are welcome to your opinions, but
> they are just that - *opinions*. You are naive in the extreme when it
> comes
> to matters political, you are a liberal, and liberalism is simply an
> advanced form of emotional immaturity...it's a simplistic way of looking
> at
> complicated issues and problems. I know you are smarter than that, so
> STOP
> with the leftist "party line" jazz and start usin' yer noggin...the whole
> world is not some right-wing conspiracy *against* you! You know better
> than
> to engage in "victim politics"...there is nothing more degrading in life
> than positing yourself as a "victim"...it's a CRUMMY way to live.
>
>
>
I detest verbosity (sound and fury signifying nothing) so let's pare to the
basic bone... liberalism is a euphemism for slothful. The Mick Blake is
intelligent, I'll grant he has a higher IQ than Duh'Weenie and Twilly
combined, but he's totally devoid of intellect and he has no common sense
whatsoever... without a doubt the most bitter, pitiful individal ever to
come through the rfc portal so you can't take anything he says seriously...
his world is all about him and excludes all others... it would literally
frighten him to death to consider another's opinion on anything, and that's
because he goes through life wearing blinders, he recognizes no one but
himself, and there lies his greatest handicap by far... everyone on the
planet carries burdons, many much weightier than his.

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:11:28 -0500, Gregory Morrow wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:55:41 -0700, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>>
>>> blake wrote:
>>>
>>>> given the fact that the mainstream media kissed george bush's
>>>> ass for eight years
>>>
>>> I don't think I'll take that as a given, unless by the term "mainstream
>>> media" you mean Fox News and ONLY Fox News. Most news programs I watched
>>> during the Bush administration rightly portrayed Bush as a lazy and
> greedy
>>> dunce, horribly unqualified for the job to which he'd been elected, and
>>> whose efforts were mainly directed toward enriching his cronies.
>>>
>>> I *was* both surprised and impressed at how eco-friendly the Crawford
> ranch
>>> was, especially by comparison with Al Gore's conspicuously-consuming
> mansion
>>> in Tennessee.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>> really? i don't watch fox news, but the *washington post* and *new york
>> times*, allegedly 'liberal' outposts, backed the invasion of iraq 110%,
> and
>> generally treated bush with respect.
>>
>> i would like to some cites from the mainstream media (except for a few
>> columnists, who were vastly outnumbered by the likes of charles
> krauthammer
>> and bill kristol) saying those things, at least for the first six years of
>> the administration.
>>
>> instead, those who opposed the war and the eavesdropping were derided as
>> kooks.
>
> Which as it turns out they *were*, blake...
>
> We WON the war in Iraq, and the result is that there is now a parliamentary
> democracy in Iraq, the very first such parliamentary democracy in the
> Islamic Middle East...
>
> It's a long, slow, and sometimes bloody process, but anything worthwhile is
> never easy...
>
> As for the "eavesdropping" issue, who cares? It was simply a measure to
> help us to increase our security...did it affect you *personally*...???
>
> blake, I look favorably upon you in general, but politics-wise you strike me
> as one of those leftist "moonbats"...you are welcome to your opinions, but
> they are just that - *opinions*. You are naive in the extreme when it comes
> to matters political, you are a liberal, and liberalism is simply an
> advanced form of emotional immaturity...it's a simplistic way of looking at
> complicated issues and problems. I know you are smarter than that, so STOP
> with the leftist "party line" jazz and start usin' yer noggin...the whole
> world is not some right-wing conspiracy *against* you! You know better than
> to engage in "victim politics"...there is nothing more degrading in life
> than positing yourself as a "victim"...it's a CRUMMY way to live.

you think the war in iraq and eavesdropping on citizens (a felony, by the
way) were *good* things, and *i'm* naive? please.

blake

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:05:53 GMT, brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>
> I detest verbosity (sound and fury signifying nothing) so let's pare to the
> basic bone... liberalism is a euphemism for slothful. The Mick Blake is
> intelligent, I'll grant he has a higher IQ than Duh'Weenie and Twilly
> combined, but he's totally devoid of intellect and he has no common sense
> whatsoever... without a doubt the most bitter, pitiful individal ever to
> come through the rfc portal so you can't take anything he says seriously...
> his world is all about him and excludes all others... it would literally
> frighten him to death to consider another's opinion on anything, and that's
> because he goes through life wearing blinders, he recognizes no one but
> himself, and there lies his greatest handicap by far... everyone on the
> planet carries burdons, many much weightier than his.

are you sure you're not some kind of performance artist? if so, your act
needs a little work.

if not, you need your ****ing head read.

blake