On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:01:06 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> fired up random neurons and synapses to
opine:

>Kimberly's reply in Jill's thread, "Let's Talk About Picky Eater's Again
><G>" got me to wondering if there is a difference between picky and
>fussy.

<snip>

I don't get it. To me, "fussy" and "picky" amount to the same thing:
you don't want to eat what you don't want to eat. I will literally go
hungry rather than eat something I don't like. I also won't eat
something if I don't think it's worth the calories. <shrug> picky,
fussy, contrary, stubborn...all apply, although I will do my level
best to hide an aversion/dislike as a guest at someone's table. OTOH,
having a guest at your table (including relatives who think their
familial ties somehow creates a dispensation of good manners) insist
that you conform *your* cooking to *their* preferences is just rude.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

"Omelet" ha scritto nel messaggio
> "Giusi" wrote:
> Please explain your selfish attitude???

Since you have decided I am selfish although you know almost nothing about
me, we have nothing to talk about. No one else does this the way you do, I
have never heard of anyone in the world calling up and saying "what would
you like to eat? I'll cook it for you."

"Dan Abel"
> "Giusi" wrote:
> We're stretching the word "social" here, now. You can bet that if a very
> important visitor came to the White House for a meal, and their religion,
> a primary one in their country, held some animal to be sacred and not to
> be used for food, that meat from that animal would not be served.

Nor would they be at my house. I've said from the beginning that I pay
attention to allergies, sensitivities and religious scruples. One of my
closest friends is a Bhuddist and eats here safely and happily.

How I cook professionally is entirely different from how I cook socially.
Professionally I cook only classical Italian foods from all the regions.
Socially I cook all over the globe.

In article >,
"Giusi" > wrote:

> "Omelet" ha scritto nel messaggio
> > "Giusi" wrote:
> > Please explain your selfish attitude???
>
> Since you have decided I am selfish although you know almost nothing about
> me, we have nothing to talk about. No one else does this the way you do, I
> have never heard of anyone in the world calling up and saying "what would
> you like to eat? I'll cook it for you."

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
I apologize if I offended you.

I prefer to cook for guests, not for myself. I'm just trying to
understand those that don't.

Maybe I'd make a good restaurant cook. ;-)
--
Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.

In article >,
Goomba > wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> > I repeat my question: Is there a difference between a fussy eater and a
> > picky eater? How would you describe the differences?
>
> I'd say a fussy eater probably eats a larger variety of foods albeit
> with rules about them than the picky eater who just wants a limited diet
> of acceptable foods.

Oooooh! I like that!
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - good news 4-6-2009
"What you say about someone else says more
about you than it does about the other person."

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 02:57:56 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> "Giusi" > wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" ha scritto nel messaggio
>> > "Giusi" wrote:
>> > Please explain your selfish attitude???
>>
>> Since you have decided I am selfish although you know almost nothing about
>> me, we have nothing to talk about. No one else does this the way you do, I
>> have never heard of anyone in the world calling up and saying "what would
>> you like to eat? I'll cook it for you."
>
>I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
>I apologize if I offended you.
>
>I prefer to cook for guests, not for myself. I'm just trying to
>understand those that don't.
>
>Maybe I'd make a good restaurant cook. ;-)

When I have people over for dinner, I just invite them... no mention
of menu unless I have something specific in at the time I'm issuing
the invitation. At that point, I'll say something general like, I'm
making leg of lamb. Not "I'm making leg of lamb with a mustard crust"
(because I usually haven't planned that far). If the guest has an
aversion to mustard, that's the time s/he can pipe in with "Did you
plan to make it with a crust? I'm not a big fan of mustard" - to
which I can say either, I don't plan to put a crust on this lamb or
yes, I am but I won't be offended if you cut it off and don't eat it.
How hard is that?

Fortunately, I don't have friends with huge dietary restrictions
(wheat allergies, diabetes, colitis etc). But if I did, I'd try to
cook meals they can eat. Otherwise, why bother inviting them over?

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> >Maybe I'd make a good restaurant cook. ;-)
>
> When I have people over for dinner, I just invite them... no mention
> of menu unless I have something specific in at the time I'm issuing
> the invitation. At that point, I'll say something general like, I'm
> making leg of lamb. Not "I'm making leg of lamb with a mustard crust"
> (because I usually haven't planned that far). If the guest has an
> aversion to mustard, that's the time s/he can pipe in with "Did you
> plan to make it with a crust? I'm not a big fan of mustard" - to
> which I can say either, I don't plan to put a crust on this lamb or
> yes, I am but I won't be offended if you cut it off and don't eat it.
> How hard is that?
>
> Fortunately, I don't have friends with huge dietary restrictions
> (wheat allergies, diabetes, colitis etc). But if I did, I'd try to
> cook meals they can eat. Otherwise, why bother inviting them over?

Thank you. :-)

I knew in advance that they had dietary preferences which was why I
chose to discuss the menu with them. The planned meal of roast pork got
changed to fish.
--
Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.

"Goomba" wrote
> Omelet wrote:
>
>> Well, what I did last time was make suggestions based on what was
>> available and affordable. :-) I simply let them make their suggestions
>> from there. _I_ still chose how it was going to be cooked.
>
> I don't know if that would entice me to come to dinner. It sounds a little
> sad and as a guest I'd feel awkward telling the hostess what to prepare.
> There would be no element of surprise or pleasure if all I felt

Grin, if I do a fancy dinner, I'd ask for a list of any medical diet needs,
(allergies, low salt, etc) and anything they truely hate. Like, if you
invite me to a dinner and the only thing on the menu is calf brain,
(shudder).... Now say they can't stand brussel spouts? No biggie. I'd
still make them, but I'd have other veggies there as well so they could
select what they liked and just not put on their plate what they don't like.

Can't take much salt? No biggie again, some of the foods may not be lower
sodium but I'd make sure enough were and quietly let'em know which were
which either by email in advance or at the side on arrival in some small
chat. 'Oh John, Joan loves my salt boiled peanuts so I made extras she can
take home, but they are very salty so you may not be interested. Check out
the Dashi or bannana bread though as I have a few special recipes I think
you'll find different and fun'.

If i needed to handle an 'intro' at actual meal time, it would be different.
It would go more like 'Welcome everyone and let me give you an idea of the
various dishes you wil see tonight. We will start with a very salty
southern specialty of salt boiled peanuts at the left, and on the right, a
sweet and savory tray of various vegetables fixed with spiced vinegars and
sauces at the side.' (It would go on from thre in same vein, no mention of
names of who might want which ones, but enough for them to select what they
needed).

"Dan Abel" wrote

> Well, I can at least understand why they don't feel that way. What I
> don't understand is the unreasonable hatred people (some on this group)
> have for vegetarians, especially vegans. I'm sure part of it is asshole
> vegetarians and vegans. My sister was a vegetarian for 13 years, and my
> daughter for 8 (plus she was a vegan for some months, until the smell of

Nor do I, but then I have a few vegetarian friends. I'm not familar enough
with true vegan, but I get no complaints from any vegetarians or semi
(allowed milk, cheese, butter, maybe eggs).

Because of my own cholestrol levels controlled by diet, I use meat as a
garnish on my own plate and have lots of veggies. Now, if a vegetarian is
so into it that they can't handle another having meat at the same table,
they don't eat at my place but we may at theirs. Pretty simple!

"Omelet" wrote

> I prefer to cook for guests, not for myself. I'm just trying to
> understand those that don't.
>
> Maybe I'd make a good restaurant cook. ;-)

Grin, might be a matter of interpretation. I don't have a neighbor gather
and expect them to give me a menu, but I am not bashful on telling them I
have a load of (insert food item) and am open to suggestions if they have a
preference.

Last weekend, it was the 2 Bangus. I donated them to another who hot-smoked
them for us all. He had a recipe but we didnt have time or know how to do
it with our gear so he did it the night before at his place in his smoker.
Other times i'd mention I had a nice pork butt, and might be asked if I
could do a southern pulled BBQ after listing 3-4 ideas I had for it.
(Southern pulled BBQ, Hoisin pork, Loo'd Pork etc).

I don't say to them 'hey, I wanna do a BBQ so what do you want me to fix'
and I bet you don't either in quite that way!

sf > wrote in
:

>
> When I have people over for dinner, I just invite them... no mention
> of menu unless I have something specific in at the time I'm issuing
> the invitation. At that point, I'll say something general like, I'm
> making leg of lamb. Not "I'm making leg of lamb with a mustard crust"
> (because I usually haven't planned that far). If the guest has an
> aversion to mustard, that's the time s/he can pipe in with "Did you
> plan to make it with a crust? I'm not a big fan of mustard" - to
> which I can say either, I don't plan to put a crust on this lamb or
> yes, I am but I won't be offended if you cut it off and don't eat it.
> How hard is that?
>

Honestly, if someone said to me they were making leg of lamb, "are you
making it with a crust?" is not something that would occur to me to ask. I
certainly don't think anyone I'm likely to ask for dinner would think of
that - not unless I asked someone from rfc :-)or perhaps a keen cook. Most
people would simply assume I was just going to serve roast lamb - but that
would probably be the most common way to see leg of lamb served here.
Obviously different in different areas.

I rarely have people over, but if I am planning on it I don't run the whole
menu by them. I would however ask if there's something they just don't eat
(and would not require them to give me a reason why - though they may wish
to if it's allergy related so I don't risk any cross contamination).

Like you and Om, if I invite people for dinner I'd like to think they'll
really enjoy their meal.

--
Rhonda Anderson
Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

Core of my heart, my country! Land of the rainbow gold,
For flood and fire and famine she pays us back threefold.
My Country, Dorothea MacKellar, 1904

In article >,
"cshenk" > wrote:

> "Omelet" wrote
>
> > I prefer to cook for guests, not for myself. I'm just trying to
> > understand those that don't.
> >
> > Maybe I'd make a good restaurant cook. ;-)
>
> Grin, might be a matter of interpretation. I don't have a neighbor gather
> and expect them to give me a menu, but I am not bashful on telling them I
> have a load of (insert food item) and am open to suggestions if they have a
> preference.
>
> Last weekend, it was the 2 Bangus. I donated them to another who hot-smoked
> them for us all. He had a recipe but we didnt have time or know how to do
> it with our gear so he did it the night before at his place in his smoker.
> Other times i'd mention I had a nice pork butt, and might be asked if I
> could do a southern pulled BBQ after listing 3-4 ideas I had for it.
> (Southern pulled BBQ, Hoisin pork, Loo'd Pork etc).
>
> I don't say to them 'hey, I wanna do a BBQ so what do you want me to fix'
> and I bet you don't either in quite that way!

Not quite, no. ;-) I generally make suggestions and let them pick!
Last time I served them spatcocked grilled cornish game hen. Hard to go
wrong with that!

Basically, they just prefer fish or poultry to red meat (and I'm ok with
that, poultry is cheap but sometimes I'll spring for fish) and fresh
veggies. Unprocessed food with ingredients that don't read like a
chemistry textbook.

Since I mostly eat that way myself (with the notable exception of some
commercially prepared condiments or dressings), their food preferences
are similar to my own.

But, I eat red meat. Frequently.
--
Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.

"Bob Terwilliger" schrieb :
> sf wrote:
>
>>>I can't find "teutlophobe" in a dictionary and I think you made it up
>>>and you can just stop that right now, okay? Beta vulgaris seems like an
>>>apt description (see Wiki on beets).
>>
>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&e...phobia&spell=1
>>
>> Fear of German or German things.
>
> No, you spelled it wrong. There's an "l" in there which you omitted, i.e.
> it's "teutlo" rather than "teuto."
>
> "Teutlo" is the Greek word for "beet." With "phobe" attached, the word
> means "one who fears or hates beets."
>
No, it's Teutlon, -ou (in Ionic dialect seutlon).
Diminuitive is teutlion (little beet).

Cheers,

Michael "Yes, I'm behind in following the group" Kuettner