Dimitri said...

>
> "Andy" > wrote in message news:Xns9BF795759D768CotD@
216.196.97.131...
>> Dimitri said...
>>
>>>
>>> "Andy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Mini tubs of red, green and orange sugar-free Jell-O, a square of 85%
>>>> cocoa
>>>> dark chocolate and a tall glass of lemon'd water and a multivitamin.
>>>>
>>>> You?
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>
>>> The manditory 4 cups of coffee
>>>
>>> later
>>>
>>> 3 pieces of home made sour dough bread as follows:
>>>
>>> 2 pieces toasted and slathered with real butter
>>> 1 piece with a little Best foods mayo and a slice of Costco slices
>>> American cheese.
>>>
>>> Dimitri
>>
>>
>> DIMITRI!!!
>>
>> Ya BUM!!!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andy
>
> Ya I know but it was too hot to cut into last night.
>
> This is one of the best cultures & instructions I've ever tasted/used.
>
> http://home.att.net/~carlsfriends/
>
> the only problem is the sponge needs to ferment for 24 hours and then the
> proofing takes another 4 hours but IT'S WORTH EVERY MINUTE!
>
> ;-)
>
> Dimitri


Bookmarked. Thanks!

I miss the famous SF sourdough!

<sniffle>

Best,

Andy
--
Maybe I'm a little afraid to start something I can't finish.

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> Dimitri said...
>
>>
>> "Andy" > wrote in message news:Xns9BF795759D768CotD@
> 216.196.97.131...
>>> Dimitri said...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Andy" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Mini tubs of red, green and orange sugar-free Jell-O, a square of 85%
>>>>> cocoa
>>>>> dark chocolate and a tall glass of lemon'd water and a multivitamin.
>>>>>
>>>>> You?
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> The manditory 4 cups of coffee
>>>>
>>>> later
>>>>
>>>> 3 pieces of home made sour dough bread as follows:
>>>>
>>>> 2 pieces toasted and slathered with real butter
>>>> 1 piece with a little Best foods mayo and a slice of Costco slices
>>>> American cheese.
>>>>
>>>> Dimitri
>>>
>>>
>>> DIMITRI!!!
>>>
>>> Ya BUM!!!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> Ya I know but it was too hot to cut into last night.
>>
>> This is one of the best cultures & instructions I've ever tasted/used.
>>
>> http://home.att.net/~carlsfriends/
>>
>> the only problem is the sponge needs to ferment for 24 hours and then the
>> proofing takes another 4 hours but IT'S WORTH EVERY MINUTE!
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> Dimitri
>
>
> Bookmarked. Thanks!
>
> I miss the famous SF sourdough!
>
> <sniffle>
>
> Best,
>
> Andy


This stuff is damn near as good & it's free ( although I send a few bucks)

Dimitri

Dimitri said...

>
> "Andy" > wrote in message news:Xns9BF799D6A5E7CCotD@
216.196.97.131...
>> Dimitri said...
>>
>>>
>>> "Andy" > wrote in message news:Xns9BF795759D768CotD@
>> 216.196.97.131...
>>>> Dimitri said...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Andy" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Mini tubs of red, green and orange sugar-free Jell-O, a square of
85%
>>>>>> cocoa
>>>>>> dark chocolate and a tall glass of lemon'd water and a multivitamin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> The manditory 4 cups of coffee
>>>>>
>>>>> later
>>>>>
>>>>> 3 pieces of home made sour dough bread as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 pieces toasted and slathered with real butter
>>>>> 1 piece with a little Best foods mayo and a slice of Costco slices
>>>>> American cheese.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dimitri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DIMITRI!!!
>>>>
>>>> Ya BUM!!!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>
>>> Ya I know but it was too hot to cut into last night.
>>>
>>> This is one of the best cultures & instructions I've ever tasted/used.
>>>
>>> http://home.att.net/~carlsfriends/
>>>
>>> the only problem is the sponge needs to ferment for 24 hours and then
the
>>> proofing takes another 4 hours but IT'S WORTH EVERY MINUTE!
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Dimitri
>>
>>
>> Bookmarked. Thanks!
>>
>> I miss the famous SF sourdough!
>>
>> <sniffle>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andy
>
>
> This stuff is damn near as good & it's free ( although I send a few
bucks)
>
> Dimitri


Dimitri,

I saw a food program about the family holding the century old starter of SF
sourdough. The one thing that hit home was when the owner said "I could
give starter to you to take home to New York and you could make sourdough
bread but it would never taste the same. We have a lock on the perfect
humidity." Or something like that. I remember nodding in agreement at the
TV, as if hypnotized. <G>

Best,

Andy
--
Eat first, talk later.

"Becca" > wrote in message
...


<snip>
> Andy I tried Kashi GoLean once. It would be great for packing material
> for shipping. ;-)
>
>
> Becca

It is amazing what Kashi has been able to do with recycled pulp.

Dimitri

"Andy" > wrote in message ...

> Dimitri,
>
> I saw a food program about the family holding the century old starter of
> SF
> sourdough. The one thing that hit home was when the owner said "I could
> give starter to you to take home to New York and you could make sourdough
> bread but it would never taste the same. We have a lock on the perfect
> humidity." Or something like that. I remember nodding in agreement at the
> TV, as if hypnotized. <G>
>
> Best,
>
> Andy


I'm not sure that's 100% true. For years we've known the baceris is
Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis

See below:

Boudine bakery has over the years opened sattelite stores from San Diego To
Disneyland and the product is the same all over from a taste to a texture
standpoint. Without question the humidity of the air effects the weight of
the flour and the spraying of the loaf with steam will yield a crisp crust
as the oilting will leave a soft crust. Humidity can be controlled.


Dimitri




Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis

Scientific classification

Binomial name
Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis
(ex Kline & Sugihara 1971)
Weiss & Schillinger 1984

Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis (formerly L. sanfrancisco) is a species of
lactic acid bacteria that helps give San Francisco sourdough bread its
characteristic taste.[1]
Sourdough starters are leavened by a mixture of yeast and lactobacilli in a
ratio of about 1:100. The yeast is most commonly Candida milleri. This yeast
cannot metabolize the maltose found in the dough, while the Lactobacillus
needs maltose.[2] They therefore act without conflict for substrate, with
the Lactobacillus utilizing maltose and the yeast utilizing the other
sugars, including the glucose produced by the Lactobacillus. The
lactobacilli produces an antibiotic cycloheximide which kills many organisms
(but not the Candida), and the Candida tolerates the acetic acid produced by
the lactobacilli.

For commercial use, specific strains of the L. sanfranciscensis are grown on
defined media, freeze-dried, and shipped to bakeries worldwide.

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> Mini tubs of red, green and orange sugar-free Jell-O, a square of 85%
> cocoa
> dark chocolate and a tall glass of lemon'd water and a multivitamin.
>
> You?
>
> Andy
> --
> Eat first, talk later.


That isn't breakfast. That's dessert left over from the night before!

Jill

Dimitri said...

>
> "Andy" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Dimitri,
>>
>> I saw a food program about the family holding the century old starter
>> of SF
>> sourdough. The one thing that hit home was when the owner said "I could
>> give starter to you to take home to New York and you could make
>> sourdough bread but it would never taste the same. We have a lock on
>> the perfect humidity." Or something like that. I remember nodding in
>> agreement at the TV, as if hypnotized. <G>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andy
>
>
> I'm not sure that's 100% true. For years we've known the baceris is
> Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis
>
> See below:
>
> Boudine bakery has over the years opened sattelite stores from San Diego
> To Disneyland and the product is the same all over from a taste to a
> texture standpoint. Without question the humidity of the air effects the
> weight of the flour and the spraying of the loaf with steam will yield a
> crisp crust as the oilting will leave a soft crust. Humidity can be
> controlled.
>
>
> Dimitri
>
>
>
>
> Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis
>
> Scientific classification
>
> Binomial name
> Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis
> (ex Kline & Sugihara 1971)
> Weiss & Schillinger 1984
>
> Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis (formerly L. sanfrancisco) is a species
> of lactic acid bacteria that helps give San Francisco sourdough bread
> its characteristic taste.[1]
> Sourdough starters are leavened by a mixture of yeast and lactobacilli
> in a ratio of about 1:100. The yeast is most commonly Candida milleri.
> This yeast cannot metabolize the maltose found in the dough, while the
> Lactobacillus needs maltose.[2] They therefore act without conflict for
> substrate, with the Lactobacillus utilizing maltose and the yeast
> utilizing the other sugars, including the glucose produced by the
> Lactobacillus. The lactobacilli produces an antibiotic cycloheximide
> which kills many organisms (but not the Candida), and the Candida
> tolerates the acetic acid produced by the lactobacilli.
>
> For commercial use, specific strains of the L. sanfranciscensis are
> grown on defined media, freeze-dried, and shipped to bakeries worldwide.


Is this gonna be on the test?



Andy

jmcquown said...

> "Andy" > wrote in message news:Xns9BF74AD88D9DACotD@
216.196.97.131...
>> Mini tubs of red, green and orange sugar-free Jell-O, a square of 85%
>> cocoa
>> dark chocolate and a tall glass of lemon'd water and a multivitamin.
>>
>> You?
>>
>> Andy
>> --
>> Eat first, talk later.
>
>
> That isn't breakfast. That's dessert left over from the night before!
>
> Jill


Hi Jill,

Not true! I pulled breakfast out of the fridge fresh this very morning!!!

What did you have?

C'mon! Play fair!

Andy
--
Eat first, talk later.

Bobo Bonobo® > wrote in news:ca6f3c64-9360-4c25-9843-
:

>> Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
>> of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
>> good of everyone. - John Maynard Keynes
>
> Ayn Rand did not consider them or their actions to be wicked.

One can thank the gods that Ayn Rand did not seek public orifice. Of
course, Margaret Thatcher went ahead and proved Keynes correct (I would say
"right", but some might misunderstand).

--

Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
good of everyone. - John Maynard Keynes

Andy > wrote in :

> Uhm... Don't call us, we'll call you!

You don't like this?

--

Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
good of everyone. - John Maynard Keynes

And you wonder why you are always having health problems.

What a Sheldon-head


"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> Mini tubs of red, green and orange sugar-free Jell-O, a square of 85%
> cocoa
> dark chocolate and a tall glass of lemon'd water and a multivitamin.
>
> You?
>
> Andy
> --
> Eat first, talk later.

Hi everyone!

Thanks for your breakfast participation!!!

Have a nice rest of your day!

See ya!

Andy

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:10:57 -0700 (PDT), Bobo Bonobo®
> wrote:

>On Apr 24, 7:56*am, Andy > wrote:
>> Kajikit said...
>>
>> > On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:25:02 -0500, Andy > wrote:
>>
>> >>Mini tubs of red, green and orange sugar-free Jell-O, a square of 85%
>> >>cocoa dark chocolate and a tall glass of lemon'd water and a
>> >>multivitamin.
>>
>> > That doesn't sound very sustaining! My breakfast was a cup of kashi
>> > golean, 1/2 a cup of my homemade yogurt, 1/2 cup milk to thin it out,
>> > and a tablespoon of honey because the yogurt was a bit sour.
>>
>> Kajikit,
>>
>> You made me google "kashi golean." I'm thinking, what language is that?!?
>> LOL!
>
>Normally I'd expect anything called Go Lean to be awful, but it's
>pretty good, especially with half&half on it.

I hate it plain... but if you put something with it to add a
texture/flavour contrast, it's delicious! My favourite is a tablespoon
of peanut butter but fresh fruit works too. And homemade yogurt is
divine.

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:36:31 -0500, Andy > wrote:

>Becca said...
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>> Kajikit said...
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:25:02 -0500, Andy > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Mini tubs of red, green and orange sugar-free Jell-O, a square of 85%
>>>>> cocoa dark chocolate and a tall glass of lemon'd water and a
>>>>> multivitamin.
>>>>>
>>>> That doesn't sound very sustaining! My breakfast was a cup of kashi
>>>> golean, 1/2 a cup of my homemade yogurt, 1/2 cup milk to thin it out,
>>>> and a tablespoon of honey because the yogurt was a bit sour.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kajikit,
>>>
>>> You made me google "kashi golean." I'm thinking, what language is
>that?!?
>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> Perhaps there Is a "Google for Gullibles" search engine I should use
>from
>>> now on?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>
>>
>> Andy I tried Kashi GoLean once. It would be great for packing material
>> for shipping. ;-)
>>
>>
>> Becca
>
>
>Becca,
>
>Maybe if Kajikit had been more forthcoming, as in "Kashi Go Lean" it might
>have not caused such a BRAINQUAKE!

It's one word on the box... (I think!)

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:06:52 -0700, "Dimitri" >
wrote:

>
>"Becca" > wrote in message
...
>
>
><snip>
>> Andy I tried Kashi GoLean once. It would be great for packing material
>> for shipping. ;-)
>>
>>
>> Becca
>
>It is amazing what Kashi has been able to do with recycled pulp.

LOL! DH would agree with you... but it's super diet-friendly and makes
a change from fiber one with cheerios.

Kajikit wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:36:31 -0500, Andy > wrote:

> > Maybe if Kajikit had been more forthcoming, as in "Kashi Go Lean"
> > it might have not caused such a BRAINQUAKE!
>
> It's one word on the box... (I think!)

<http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/products/kashi.jpg>




Brian

--
Day 81 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
<snip>
> Is this gonna be on the test?
>
>
>
> Andy

NEVER!

Been there done that Never Again!

BTW there'll be a short quiz on Sourdough next week.

Dimitri

Andy wrote:

> The spice glossery is inoperative.

It does work. Sounds like you have a PEBCAK (operator error) problem.
Also it is spelled "glossary" not glossery dumb ass,

In article >, Andy > wrote:

> Mini tubs of red, green and orange sugar-free Jell-O, a square of 85% cocoa
> dark chocolate and a tall glass of lemon'd water and a multivitamin.
>
> You?

Yesterday, I had a chocolate donut and a bottle of Diet Pepsi and then a
hot dog with plenty of ketchup and another Diet Pepsi. I had the Diet
Pepsi on my way to work with the donut. I was still hungry by the time I
got to work, so I bought a hot dog from a street vendor.

My Cousin David slept over my place last night. He offered to do
cleaning for me today and tomorrow. I am terrible at cleaning, my cousin
is good at it. I am fortunate to make a very nice living. My cousin is
unemployed and on disability. Dave needs every dime he can spare, so we
struck up a deal where I will get him out of his apartment where he
lives with his mom for a couple of weekend and he'll help me clean. Next
weekend, I am taking him on vacation to a friend's condo in Wildwood if
the weather holds up.

In a few minutes, Dave and I are going to walk across the street to the
neighborhood greasy spoon where I will treat him to breakfast. I have no
clue what Dave will get, but I intend to get scrambled eggs, plus hash
browns, rye toast, and a Diet Pepsi for my breakfast.

Stan Horwitz wrote:
> In article >, Andy > wrote:
>
>
>> Mini tubs of red, green and orange sugar-free Jell-O, a square of 85% cocoa
>> dark chocolate and a tall glass of lemon'd water and a multivitamin.
>>
>> You?
>>
>
> Yesterday, I had a chocolate donut and a bottle of Diet Pepsi and then a
> hot dog with plenty of ketchup and another Diet Pepsi. I had the Diet
> Pepsi on my way to work with the donut. I was still hungry by the time I
> got to work, so I bought a hot dog from a street vendor.
>
> My Cousin David slept over my place last night. He offered to do
> cleaning for me today and tomorrow. I am terrible at cleaning, my cousin
> is good at it. I am fortunate to make a very nice living. My cousin is
> unemployed and on disability. Dave needs every dime he can spare, so we
> struck up a deal where I will get him out of his apartment where he
> lives with his mom for a couple of weekend and he'll help me clean. Next
> weekend, I am taking him on vacation to a friend's condo in Wildwood if
> the weather holds up.
>
> In a few minutes, Dave and I are going to walk across the street to the
> neighborhood greasy spoon where I will treat him to breakfast. I have no
> clue what Dave will get, but I intend to get scrambled eggs, plus hash
> browns, rye toast, and a Diet Pepsi for my breakfast.
>

You are a good cousin, he is lucky to have you.


Becca

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:56:52 -0500, Michel Boucher wrote:

> Bobo Bonobo® > wrote in news:ca6f3c64-9360-4c25-9843-
> :
>
>>> Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
>>> of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
>>> good of everyone. - John Maynard Keynes
>>
>> Ayn Rand did not consider them or their actions to be wicked.
>
> One can thank the gods that Ayn Rand did not seek public orifice. Of
> course, Margaret Thatcher went ahead and proved Keynes correct (I would say
> "right", but some might misunderstand).

why in the world would rand seek public office? she had her own little
coterie/cult of devoted sycophants.

even libertarian murray rothbard thought she was nuts:

Since every cult is grounded on a faith in the infallibility of the guru,
it becomes necessary to keep its disciples in ignorance of contradictory
infidel writings which may wean cult members away from the fold. The
Catholic Church maintained an Index of Prohibited Books; more sweeping was
the ancient Muslim cry: "Burn all books, for all truth is in the Koran!"
But cults, which attempt to mold every member into a rigidly integrated
world view, must go further. Just as Communists are often instructed not to
read anti-Communist literature, the Rand cult went further to disseminate
what was virtually an Index of Permitted Books. Since most neophyte
Randians were both young and relatively ignorant, a careful channeling of
their reading insured that they would remain ignorant of non- or
anti-Randian ideas or arguments permanently (except as they were taken up
briefly, brusquely, and in a highly distorted and hectoring fashion in
Randian publications).

[...]

One method, as we have seen, was to keep the members in ignorance. Another
was to insure that every spoken and written word of the Randian member was
not only correct in content but also in form, for any slight nuance or
difference in wording could and would be attacked for deviating from the
Randian position. Thus, just as the Marxist movements developed jargon and
slogans which were clung to for fear of uttering incorrect deviations, the
same was true in the Randian movement. In the name of "precision of
language," in short, nuance and even synonyms were in effect prohibited.

Another method was to keep the members, as far as possible, in a state of
fevered emotion through continual re-readings of Atlas. Shortly after Atlas
was published, one high-ranking cult leader chided me for only having read
Atlas once. "Itÿs about time for you to start reading it again," he
admonished. "I have already read Atlas thirty-five times."

The rereading of Atlas was also important to the cult because the wooden,
posturing, and one-dimensional heroes and heroines were explicitly supposed
to serve as role models for every Randian. Just as every Christian is
supposed to aim at the imitation of Christ in his own daily life, so every
Randian was supposed to aim at the imitation of John Galt (Randÿs hero of
heroes in Atlas.) He was always supposed to ask himself in every situation
"What would John Galt have done?" When we remind ourselves that Jesus,
after all, was an actual historical figure whereas Galt was not, the
bizarrerie of this injunction can be readily grasped. (Although from the
awed way Randians spoke of John Galt, one often got the impression that,
for them, the line between fiction and reality was very thin indeed.)

<http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard23.html>

i read somewhere where a cult member was scolded for smoking the wrong
brand of cigarettes - apparently it was not 'objectivist' enough.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:25:02 -0500, Andy > wrote:

>Mini tubs of red, green and orange sugar-free Jell-O, a square of 85% cocoa
>dark chocolate and a tall glass of lemon'd water and a multivitamin.
>
>You?

Not as adventuresome as your breakfast, that's for sure. I had a
simple omelet filled with cheese and avocado, two thick slices of
baguette lightly toasted, smeared with whipped cream cheese and jam,
and a glass of OJ.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

blake murphy wrote:


> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:56:52 -0500, Michel Boucher wrote:
>
> > Bobo Bonobo® > wrote in news:ca6f3c64-9360-4c25-9843-
> > :
> >
> >>> Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
> >>> of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
> >>> good of everyone. - John Maynard Keynes
> >>
> >> Ayn Rand did not consider them or their actions to be wicked.
> >
> > One can thank the gods that Ayn Rand did not seek public orifice. Of
> > course, Margaret Thatcher went ahead and proved Keynes correct (I would
say
> > "right", but some might misunderstand).
>
> why in the world would rand seek public office? she had her own little
> coterie/cult of devoted sycophants.
>
> even libertarian murray rothbard thought she was nuts:
>
> Since every cult is grounded on a faith in the infallibility of the guru,
> it becomes necessary to keep its disciples in ignorance of contradictory
> infidel writings which may wean cult members away from the fold.


Yup, a *perfect* example of this is Al Gore with his nutty leftist "global
warming" sycophants...


--
Best
Greg

"The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money."~~~~Margaret Thatcher

Becca wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>> Andy wrote:
>>> Mini tubs of red, green and orange sugar-free Jell-O, a square of 85%
>>> cocoa dark chocolate and a tall glass of lemon'd water and a
>>> multivitamin.
>>>
>>> You?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> Gee, except for the chocolate, you could almost be prepping for a
>> colonoscopy, Andy.
>>
>> Mine: date-nut scone and 2 cafe au lait.
>
> You had scones again? Damn you, I say! ;-) I had a chocolate
> protein shake. It was delicious. Really it was. It would be better if
> I put a couple of scoops of ice cream in there. lol
>
>
> Becca

Yabbut... You are being good....

--
Jean B.

Dimitri wrote:
>
> "Becca" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
> <snip>
>> Andy I tried Kashi GoLean once. It would be great for packing
>> material for shipping. ;-)
>>
>>
>> Becca
>
> It is amazing what Kashi has been able to do with recycled pulp.
>
> Dimitri

I LOVE the original Kashi pilaf! I haven't indulged for a long
time though.

--
Jean B.

2 egg white, 1 whole egg omelet
2 slices scrapple
apple
green tea

JonquilJan

Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying

On Apr 25, 12:59*pm, "JonquilJan" > wrote:
> 2 egg white, 1 whole egg omelet
> 2 slices scrapple
> apple
> green tea

So many people here avoid egg yolks. I've also noticed that an
unusually high proportion have gout, and seems like quite a bit of
type II diabetes too, but the egg thing seems weird considering that
this is a cooking group.
>
> JonquilJan


--Bryan
Visit Bobo Bonobo's Mortuary and Sausage Emporium
On the web @ http://MySpace.com/BoboBonobo

blake murphy > wrote in
:

>> One can thank the gods that Ayn Rand did not seek public orifice. Of
>> course, Margaret Thatcher went ahead and proved Keynes correct (I
>> would say "right", but some might misunderstand).
>
> why in the world would rand seek public office?

Well, I didn't suggest she should have, I just thanked the gods she hadn't.

--

Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
good of everyone. - John Maynard Keynes

"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in
:

> Yup, a *perfect* example of this is Al Gore with his nutty leftist
> "global warming" sycophants...

Or George Bush (et alia) with their even nuttier right-wing arctic oil
drillers and deniers of incontrovertible evidence. Between Gore who
believes it must be stopped before the harm becomes irrepairable and Bush
(et alia) who believe it doesn't need to be fixed because he next coming of
Jesus will reboot the entire planet, I find Gore to be the least offensive.
And so do you when it comes right down to it.

--

Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
good of everyone. - John Maynard Keynes

In article
>,
Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:


> So many people here avoid egg yolks. I've also noticed that an
> unusually high proportion have gout, and seems like quite a bit of
> type II diabetes too, but the egg thing seems weird considering that
> this is a cooking group.

My experience is that young people don't read newsgroups. There are
exceptions, but most posters here seem older than typical internet users.

Old people tend to have more gout, type II diabetes and have more often
been diagnosed with being at risk for cardiovascular problems (which
often translates into the advice to lower consumption of saturated fats,
including egg yolks).

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dan wrote on Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:18:35 -0700:

>> So many people here avoid egg yolks. I've also noticed that
>> an unusually high proportion have gout, and seems like quite
>> a bit of type II diabetes too, but the egg thing seems weird
>> considering that this is a cooking group.

> My experience is that young people don't read newsgroups.
> There are exceptions, but most posters here seem older than
> typical internet users.

> Old people tend to have more gout, type II diabetes and have
> more often been diagnosed with being at risk for
> cardiovascular problems (which often translates into the
> advice to lower consumption of saturated fats, including egg
> yolks).

Many years ago, we were told to avoid foods rich in cholesterol, such as
egg yolks, to avoid heart disease. This well-meant advice turned out to
be partially wrong since much blood cholesterol is made by the body. We
are at stage-1 word-eating where it is stated that "moderate"
consumption of egg yolks is not harmful. Stage-2 is to expand the
definition of "moderate" but a lot of us got used to not eating egg
yolks and are dubious about changing.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Apr 25, 3:32*pm, "James Silverton" >
wrote:
>
> Many years ago, we were told to avoid foods rich in cholesterol, such as
> egg yolks, *to avoid heart disease. This well-meant advice turned out to
> be partially wrong since much blood cholesterol is made by the body. We
> are at stage-1 word-eating where it is stated that "moderate"
> consumption of egg yolks is not harmful. Stage-2 is to expand the
> definition of "moderate" but a lot of us got used to not eating egg
> yolks and are dubious about changing.

There should be great feelings of liberation. Hey, maybe the
Eggbeaters people have slipped in an addictive substance.
>
> --
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
--Bryan
Visit Bobo Bonobo's Mortuary and Sausage Emporium
On the web @ http://MySpace.com/BoboBonobo

On Apr 25, 4:54*pm, "l, not -l" > wrote:
> On 25-Apr-2009, "James Silverton" > wrote:
>
> > Many years ago, we were told to avoid foods rich in cholesterol, such as
> > egg yolks, *to avoid heart disease. This well-meant advice turned out to
> > be partially wrong since much blood cholesterol is made by the body. We
> > are at stage-1 word-eating where it is stated that "moderate"
> > consumption of egg yolks is not harmful. Stage-2 is to expand the
> > definition of "moderate" but a lot of us got used to not eating egg
> > yolks and are dubious about changing.
>
> > --
>
> And some of us have been doing without the yolk for so long, we now prefer
> the taste of EggBeaters to whole eggs. *I much prefer skim milk to whole or
> 2% as well.
>
> I'll take my daily "30% of calories from fat" in foods that taste better to
> me - such as pork sausage or cheese. *Egg yolk vs. pork sausage - no
> contest.

Pork sausage dipped in runny egg yolk, divine.
>
----Bryan listen @ http://www.MySpace.com/TheBonobos

"The 1960's called. They want their recipe back."
--Steve Wertz in rec.food.cooking 4-20-2009

"Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message
...
On Apr 25, 12:59 pm, "JonquilJan" > wrote:
> 2 egg white, 1 whole egg omelet
> 2 slices scrapple
> apple
> green tea

So many people here avoid egg yolks. I've also noticed that an
unusually high proportion have gout, and seems like quite a bit of
type II diabetes too, but the egg thing seems weird considering that
this is a cooking group.
>
> JonquilJan


I like the whites better than the yolks.

JonquilJan

Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying

In article
>,
Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:

> On Apr 25, 3:32*pm, "James Silverton" >
> wrote:
> >
> > Many years ago, we were told to avoid foods rich in cholesterol, such as
> > egg yolks, *to avoid heart disease. This well-meant advice turned out to
> > be partially wrong since much blood cholesterol is made by the body. We
> > are at stage-1 word-eating where it is stated that "moderate"
> > consumption of egg yolks is not harmful. Stage-2 is to expand the
> > definition of "moderate" but a lot of us got used to not eating egg
> > yolks and are dubious about changing.
>
> There should be great feelings of liberation. Hey, maybe the
> Eggbeaters people have slipped in an addictive substance.

Except that, instead, we are being advised to avoid foods high in
saturated fat, such as egg yolks, to avoid heart disease.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Jean B. wrote:
> Becca wrote:
>> Jean B. wrote:
>>> Andy wrote:
>>>> Mini tubs of red, green and orange sugar-free Jell-O, a square of
>>>> 85% cocoa dark chocolate and a tall glass of lemon'd water and a
>>>> multivitamin.
>>>>
>>>> You?
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>
>>> Gee, except for the chocolate, you could almost be prepping for a
>>> colonoscopy, Andy.
>>>
>>> Mine: date-nut scone and 2 cafe au lait.
>>
>> You had scones again? Damn you, I say! ;-) I had a chocolate
>> protein shake. It was delicious. Really it was. It would be better
>> if I put a couple of scoops of ice cream in there. lol
>>
>>
>> Becca
>
> Yabbut... You are being good....
>


Yesterday I fell off the wagon, but just a little. My family
congregated at my mother's and we had spiral sliced ham, purple hull
peas, turnip greens, fried okra, sweet potatoes, corn bread, fruit
salad, peach pie and three different cakes. I only tried two of the
cakes. :-)


I am back on the wagon today.


Becca

Becca wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>> Becca wrote:
>>> Jean B. wrote:
>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>> Mini tubs of red, green and orange sugar-free Jell-O, a square of
>>>>> 85% cocoa dark chocolate and a tall glass of lemon'd water and a
>>>>> multivitamin.
>>>>>
>>>>> You?
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> Gee, except for the chocolate, you could almost be prepping for a
>>>> colonoscopy, Andy.
>>>>
>>>> Mine: date-nut scone and 2 cafe au lait.
>>>
>>> You had scones again? Damn you, I say! ;-) I had a chocolate
>>> protein shake. It was delicious. Really it was. It would be better
>>> if I put a couple of scoops of ice cream in there. lol
>>>
>>>
>>> Becca
>>
>> Yabbut... You are being good....
>>
>
>
> Yesterday I fell off the wagon, but just a little. My family
> congregated at my mother's and we had spiral sliced ham, purple hull
> peas, turnip greens, fried okra, sweet potatoes, corn bread, fruit
> salad, peach pie and three different cakes. I only tried two of the
> cakes. :-)
>
>
> I am back on the wagon today.
>
>
> Becca

At least you are back on the wagon, Becca. I did buy some cream
today, so I can at least segregate (as in Montignac), when it's
possible.

--
Jean B.

On Apr 25, 5:17*pm, Becca > wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
> > Becca wrote:
> >> Jean B. wrote:
> >>> Andy wrote:
> >>>> Mini tubs of red, green and orange sugar-free Jell-O, a square of
> >>>> 85% cocoa dark chocolate and a tall glass of lemon'd water and a
> >>>> multivitamin.
>
> >>>> You?
>
> >>>> Andy
>
> >>> Gee, except for the chocolate, you could almost be prepping for a
> >>> colonoscopy, Andy.
>
> >>> Mine: *date-nut scone and 2 cafe au lait.
>
> >> You had scones again? * Damn you, I say! *;-) * I had *a chocolate
> >> protein shake. It was delicious. *Really it was. *It would be better
> >> if I put a couple of scoops of ice cream in there. * lol
>
> >> Becca
>
> > Yabbut... *You are being good....
>
> Yesterday I fell off the wagon, but just a little. *My family
> congregated at my mother's and we had spiral sliced ham, purple hull
> peas, turnip greens, fried okra, sweet potatoes, corn bread, fruit
> salad, peach pie and three different cakes. *I only tried two of the
> cakes. *:-)
>
> I am back on the wagon today.

Calorie wagon? Carb wagon?
>
> Becca

--Bryan
Visit Bobo Bonobo's Mortuary and Sausage Emporium
On the web @ http://MySpace.com/BoboBonobo

"JonquilJan" > wrote in message
>
>
> I like the whites better than the yolks.
>

You can have mine. I like to eat the white first, then take that yolk on the
fork and take it in one bite with buttered bread. Best part of breakfast.

In article >,
"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:

> "JonquilJan" > wrote in message
> >
> >
> > I like the whites better than the yolks.
> >
>
> You can have mine. I like to eat the white first, then take that yolk on the
> fork and take it in one bite with buttered bread. Best part of breakfast.

<lol> I eat the whites first too, then pop the entire yolk into my
mouth and let that gooey goodness dribble over my tongue.

I just eat them by themselves.
--
Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.