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Sqwertz > wrote:

> "phil..c" > wrote:
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>> So what do you think ?

>
> I think your an idiot,


Oh, sometimes I crack myself up.

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Chemo the Clown > wrote:

> On Apr 27, 1:43*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
>> Chemo the Clown > wrote:
>>
>>> Well said. They don't need no steekin' "snacks", no TV's, stereo's or
>>> any other luxury. They committed a crime and now they should pay the
>>> time. Who cares if they **** each other. Cruel and unusual punishment
>>> by having them work their ass off for no pay....what about the victims
>>> who got robbed, beat sensless or killed. For Christ's sake...lock 'em
>>> up and make *them pay for the crime.

>>
>> We'll just call you, "Judge Chemo the Clown".

>
> Gotta a nice ring to it, doncha think? Of course, most of these
> bleeding heart liberals would have a different take on the low life
> criminals if they were the ones that were the victim. I'm betting
> their tune would change if it was their wife or daughter that got
> raped, tortured and then killed and dumped in the wood. Oh
> wait...they'll be saying that the poor murderer had a terrible
> childhood and he might as well get life but let's give the jerk all
> the comforts of home. Toss 'em in jail, make 'em work for nothing and
> let 'em serve the time.


Lemme guess.... Your family is afraid of you and you're kinda
psychotic sometimes, right?

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> It appears that Dr. Wertz is a liberal. I hear he's scared of guns too.


That's "ascared" to you, "Watermelon Man" (PPbbbttttTT!)

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On Apr 27, 6:39*pm, TFM® > wrote:
> "Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > On Apr 27, 5:48 pm, TFM® > wrote:
> >> "Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message

>
> ....

>
> >> > On Apr 27, 2:06 pm, TFM® > wrote:
> >> >> "Omelet" > wrote in message

>
> >> >>news

>
> >> >> > In article >,
> >> >> > TFM® > wrote:

>
> >> >> >> "maxine" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> > On Apr 27, 12:22 pm, TFM® > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> "maxine" > wrote

>
> >> >> >> > If you've got the experience, then you've a better right to speak
> >> >> >> > than
> >> >> >> > I.
> >> >> >> > I did meet a couple of other people who admitted that they did
> >> >> >> > their
> >> >> >> > time for crimes they committed. You're rarer than hens' teeth!

>
> >> >> >> I was never held unjustly. I did the crime, I did the time.

>
> >> >> >> It seems that everybody is innocent when you talk to them inside..
> >> >> >> Attitudes
> >> >> >> change when they get out. If they don't, they end up going back.
> >> >> >> I like it out here.

>
> >> >> >> TFM®

>
> >> >> > So what did you do? DUI?
> >> >> > Curious minds are just that. <g>

>
> >> >> > Private e-mail is fine if you don't want to air it here.

>
> >> >> Curious minds are merely nosey. I don't want to air it anywhere thank
> >> >> you.
> >> >> It's enough for everyone to know I've done it.

>
> >> >> TFM®

>
> >> > Maybe you could change your moniker to OTL® (One Time Loser)

>
> >> Maybe you could suck my dick and let me come all over your ****ing face.
> >> I'll have a tossed salad when your finished.

>
> >> TFM

>
> > You're such a compassionate guy. *Perhaps you have rage towards
> > inmates, even the wrongly convicted because you had to suck their
> > dicks. *Maybe they didn't pull out, and shot their whole load in your
> > mouth.
> > Oh, and you're such a dumb White trash that you don't know the
> > difference between "your" *and "you're."

>
> Ok, you can spellcheck, I can face****. *Get the **** over it.
>
> I can honestly say that I've never had sex with a man, nor have I ever had
> my ass whipped in jail.
>
> **** you and your pity. *If I need anything from you I'll take it.


That *is* what criminals do.
>
> TFM®


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On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:28:26 -0400, TFM® wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:53:47 +1200, bob wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:19:00 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
>>> > shouted from the highest rooftop:
>>>
>>>>Officials are working with the company that provides the goods and sets
>>>>the
>>>>prices at Florida's about 130 prisons to see if some prices can be
>>>>lowered,
>>>
>>> Just another monopoly taking advantage of a captive market ...

>>
>> you'd think with 130 prisons they'd have the clout to negotiate a lower
>> price...

>
> They surely do, but why should they care?
>


why would they want the inmates to be ****ed off all the time?

blake


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"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:28:26 -0400, TFM® wrote:
>
>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:53:47 +1200, bob wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:19:00 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
>>>> > shouted from the highest rooftop:
>>>>
>>>>>Officials are working with the company that provides the goods and sets
>>>>>the
>>>>>prices at Florida's about 130 prisons to see if some prices can be
>>>>>lowered,
>>>>
>>>> Just another monopoly taking advantage of a captive market ...
>>>
>>> you'd think with 130 prisons they'd have the clout to negotiate a lower
>>> price...

>>
>> They surely do, but why should they care?
>>

>
> why would they want the inmates to be ****ed off all the time?


The only way to keep them truly happy would be to open the gates and let
them come and go as they please. Most would return nightly for the free
room and board.

TFM®

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TFM® > wrote:

>> "I just wish for once that you could be in my shoes, Mr. Prosecutor,
>> and then you would know something that you don't know: mercy! That
>> the concept of a society is based on the quality of that mercy; its
>> sense of fair play; its sense of justice! But I guess that's like
>> asking a bear to shit in the toilet."
>>
>> "For a nation of pigs, it sure seems funny that you don't eat them!
>> Jesus Christ forgave the *******s, but I can't! I hate! I hate you!
>> I hate your nation! And I hate your people! And I **** your sons and
>> daughters because they're pigs! You're all pigs!"

>
> Source? It's good.


It's one of the most dramatic scenes in cinematography, IMO:
Midnight Express (1978). Download it now, and not just for that
scene. It'll make your little jail stint seem like a birthday
party.

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> TFM® > wrote:
>
>>> "I just wish for once that you could be in my shoes, Mr. Prosecutor,
>>> and then you would know something that you don't know: mercy! That
>>> the concept of a society is based on the quality of that mercy; its
>>> sense of fair play; its sense of justice! But I guess that's like
>>> asking a bear to shit in the toilet."
>>>
>>> "For a nation of pigs, it sure seems funny that you don't eat them!
>>> Jesus Christ forgave the *******s, but I can't! I hate! I hate you!
>>> I hate your nation! And I hate your people! And I **** your sons and
>>> daughters because they're pigs! You're all pigs!"

>>
>> Source? It's good.

>
> It's one of the most dramatic scenes in cinematography, IMO:
> Midnight Express (1978). Download it now, and not just for that
> scene. It'll make your little jail stint seem like a birthday
> party.



Downloading as instructed.

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I ALSO HAVE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE HIGHER PRICES THEY ARE CHARGING THE
INMATES. I HAVE TO PUT MONEY IN MY SON'S ACCOUNT THE BEST WAY I
CAN,WITH NO JOB AND UNABLE TO FIND ONE RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT RIGHT!
LET'S GET THE PRICE'S BACK DOWN,ASAP!!!! BEFORE THE PRICE'S WENT UP HE
COULD GET ALOT AND NOW HE CAN'T GET MUCH AT ALL. YES,THEY ARE IN
PRISON BUT THEY ARE STILL HUMAN AND HAVE NEEDS!!!!!!!THEY NEED THESE
ITEMS TO SURVIVE,THEY DON'T GET MUCH FOOD AT CHOW SO THEY DEPEND ON
CANTEEN ITEMS! SO, LET'S PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE HIGH PRICE'S,
"GET THEM DOWN PLEASE"!! IT HELPS THE INMATES AS WELL AS THE FAMILIES
THAT GIVE THEM MONEY!
THANK YOU;
CONCERNED PARENT

Gregory Morrow wrote:
> More liberal bleeding-heart crybabying, lol... :
>
>
> http://www.suntimes.com/business/154...042509.article
>
> Inmates, families upset about snack prices
>
>
> April 25, 2009
>
> FROM THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
>
> "TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Having to pay more for Honey Buns and other prison
> snack shop items has made inmates at Florida prisons and their families
> upset.
>
> The state, which has the nation's third largest state prison system, raised
> prices about three weeks ago under a new contract with an outside company.
> Since then, the department has gotten approximately 60 phone calls and
> letters from families complaining about the increases.
>
> "The prices have increased dramatically," one inmate's family wrote in an
> e-mail to the department signed "concerned family." "We have to send money
> to our loved one and now he can hardly buy anything substantial. Please can
> we fix this?"
>
> Officials are working with the company that provides the goods and sets the
> prices at Florida's about 130 prisons to see if some prices can be lowered,
> Department of Corrections spokeswoman Gretl Plessinger said Friday. Prices
> at the snack shops, called canteens, were last changed in October. While
> it's not unusual to get complaints when prices increase, Plessinger said
> there seem to be more this time.
>
> "Prices are going up everywhere," Plessinger said. "We're sympathetic to
> them, but it's tough on everyone."
>
> Prices went up March 30. Peanut M&Ms and Snickers bars jumped from 66 cents
> to 89 cents. A can of Coke that used to cost 57 cents now costs 89.
>
> But the price increase that has prompted the most outrage is on Honey Buns.
> The old price for the cinnamon pastry with icing was 66 cents. Now it's 99
> cents. A chocolate variety of the sweet went from 61 cents to $1.49.
>
> The department is looking at possibly substituting another less-expensive
> brand, Plessinger said.
>
> Also up: cigarettes. A pack of Marlboro cigarettes used to cost $3.70 but is
> now $4.47 -- an increase of 77 cents. The increase is, in part, the result
> of 62-cent-per-pack federal sales tax increase that went into effect April
> 1. Prisons in other states also reported increasing their prices on
> cigarettes as a result.
>
> Money from canteen sales goes into the state's general fund, about $30
> million last year according to the department. The prices have to be in line
> with what the general public pays for goods.
>
> The department contracts with Missouri-based Keefe Commissary Network to
> supply the commissaries. Mark Jensen, senior vice president of Centric
> Group, Keefe's parent company, said the nationwide supplier of products to
> correctional facility commissaries doesn't comment on current customers or
> contracts.
>
> Inmates use a plastic ID card that works like a debit card to buy items.
> Some prisoners have jobs that pay a small amount, but most money is
> deposited in an inmate's account by family members.
>
> Jill Lopez has two young children and a fiance in prison in Raiford in north
> Florida who she sends between $20 and $40 a week.
>
> "I can't send him any more. There's no way," said Lopez, 46, a Fort Pierce
> secretary who makes $12 an hour.
>
> Lopez's fiance, Fred Whyms, 39, has about two years left in prison for
> dealing in stolen property. He told her inmates are extremely frustrated
> with the price increases and that some items are going missing.
>
> "They're all freaking out," Lopez said in a telephone interview. "You have
> grown men that are hungry. What's going to happen? There're going to be more
> fights. People are going to crankier."
>
> In some places that has already happened, according to Charles Norman, an
> inmate serving a life sentence at the Tomoka Correctional Institution in
> Daytona Beach.
>
> "Prisoners whose families sacrificed to send them money to buy sweets,
> drinks, food items, and toiletries were getting assaulted, and their canteen
> bags taken from them," he wrote in a newsletter e-mailed to friends. "The
> strong ones armed themselves."
>
> In an e-mail, Department of Corrections spokesman Alex Thompson said they
> had not gotten any complaints that the price increases resulted in abuse..."
>
> </>
>
>
> Copyright 2009 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not
> be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

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On Apr 27, 1:33*pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
> On Apr 27, 9:18*am, TFM® > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "maxine" > wrote in message

>
> ....

>
> > > On Apr 26, 3:23 pm, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:
> > >> On Apr 26, 2:19 pm, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:> More
> > >> liberal bleeding-heart crybabying, lol... :

>
> > >> You're such an asshole. You'd make a good prison guard yourself. I
> > >> bet you pulled the wings off of flies as a kid.

>
> > >> The reason the prices are being raised is so that some parasite
> > >> contractor can skim money. Did you hear about Obama's plans for
> > >> student loans? It involves cutting out parasites.

>
> > >> --Bryan

>
> > > Having grown up in a family business with vending machines, I have to
> > > take offense. *The prices of the goods go up. *Haven't you noticed a
> > > few increases in the prices at your local markets? *The costs of
> > > equipment, employees and their benefits goes up, the cost of gas and
> > > vehicle maintenance goes up. *It sucks for people on the outside who
> > > are trying to pay for food, rent and gas on low wages, and it sucks
> > > even more for prisoners who earn a pittance for the work they do in
> > > the can.

>
> > They're in prison because they belong there. ***** them and their rights.
> > They gave those up when they committed the crime.

>
> > TFM®- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Well said. They don't need no steekin' "snacks", no TV's, stereo's or
> any other luxury. They committed a crime and now they should pay the
> time. Who cares if they **** each other. Cruel and unusual punishment
> by having them work their ass off for no pay....what about the victims
> who got robbed, beat sensless or killed. For Christ's sake...lock 'em
> up and make *them pay for the crime.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE YOURSELF! YEAH THEY ARE IN THERE FOR WHATEVER THE
REASON IS,BUT THEY ARE STILL HUMAN YOU JERKOFF..AND I HOPE THAT
SOMEDAY YOU WILL BE RIGHT THERE WITH THE REST OF THEM,LET YOU SEE JUST
HOW THINGS "REALLY""ARE!
CONCERNED PARENT


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> wrote in message
...
On Apr 27, 1:33 pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
> On Apr 27, 9:18 am, TFM® > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "maxine" > wrote in message

>
> ...

>
> > > On Apr 26, 3:23 pm, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:
> > >> On Apr 26, 2:19 pm, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:> More
> > >> liberal bleeding-heart crybabying, lol... :

>
> > >> You're such an asshole. You'd make a good prison guard yourself. I
> > >> bet you pulled the wings off of flies as a kid.

>
> > >> The reason the prices are being raised is so that some parasite
> > >> contractor can skim money. Did you hear about Obama's plans for
> > >> student loans? It involves cutting out parasites.

>
> > >> --Bryan

>
> > > Having grown up in a family business with vending machines, I have to
> > > take offense. The prices of the goods go up. Haven't you noticed a
> > > few increases in the prices at your local markets? The costs of
> > > equipment, employees and their benefits goes up, the cost of gas and
> > > vehicle maintenance goes up. It sucks for people on the outside who
> > > are trying to pay for food, rent and gas on low wages, and it sucks
> > > even more for prisoners who earn a pittance for the work they do in
> > > the can.

>
> > They're in prison because they belong there. **** them and their rights.
> > They gave those up when they committed the crime.

>
> > TFM®- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Well said. They don't need no steekin' "snacks", no TV's, stereo's or
> any other luxury. They committed a crime and now they should pay the
> time. Who cares if they **** each other. Cruel and unusual punishment
> by having them work their ass off for no pay....what about the victims
> who got robbed, beat sensless or killed. For Christ's sake...lock 'em
> up and make them pay for the crime.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE YOURSELF! YEAH THEY ARE IN THERE FOR WHATEVER THE
REASON IS,BUT THEY ARE STILL HUMAN YOU JERKOFF..AND I HOPE THAT
SOMEDAY YOU WILL BE RIGHT THERE WITH THE REST OF THEM,LET YOU SEE JUST
HOW THINGS "REALLY""ARE!
CONCERNED PARENT

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I seem to recall an ex-con telling me that it was one system with
headquarters in St. Louis. Don't recall a name, though. They are in
business to make a profit.

He also told me that Barbara Bush and other politico-types own
sizeable portions of the enterprise.

Explosion in prison construction in the 80s and 90s - explosion in
arrests for, say, minor drug offenses during the same period.

Two plus two still equal four.
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On Sun, 10 May 2009 08:27:09 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

>I ALSO HAVE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE HIGHER PRICES THEY ARE CHARGING THE
>INMATES. I HAVE TO PUT MONEY IN MY SON'S ACCOUNT THE BEST WAY I
>CAN,WITH NO JOB AND UNABLE TO FIND ONE RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT RIGHT!
>LET'S GET THE PRICE'S BACK DOWN,ASAP!!!! BEFORE THE PRICE'S WENT UP HE
>COULD GET ALOT AND NOW HE CAN'T GET MUCH AT ALL. YES,THEY ARE IN
>PRISON BUT THEY ARE STILL HUMAN AND HAVE NEEDS!!!!!!!THEY NEED THESE
>ITEMS TO SURVIVE,THEY DON'T GET MUCH FOOD AT CHOW SO THEY DEPEND ON
>CANTEEN ITEMS! SO, LET'S PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE HIGH PRICE'S,
>"GET THEM DOWN PLEASE"!! IT HELPS THE INMATES AS WELL AS THE FAMILIES
>THAT GIVE THEM MONEY!
>THANK YOU;
>CONCERNED PARENT
>
>Gregory Morrow wrote:
>> More liberal bleeding-heart crybabying, lol... :
>>
>>
>>
http://www.suntimes.com/business/154...042509.article
>>
>> Inmates, families upset about snack prices
>>
>>
>> April 25, 2009
>>
>> FROM THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
>>
>> "TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Having to pay more for Honey Buns and other prison
>> snack shop items has made inmates at Florida prisons and their families
>> upset.
>>
>> The state, which has the nation's third largest state prison system, raised
>> prices about three weeks ago under a new contract with an outside company.
>> Since then, the department has gotten approximately 60 phone calls and
>> letters from families complaining about the increases.
>>
>> "The prices have increased dramatically," one inmate's family wrote in an
>> e-mail to the department signed "concerned family." "We have to send money
>> to our loved one and now he can hardly buy anything substantial. Please can
>> we fix this?"
>>
>> Officials are working with the company that provides the goods and sets the
>> prices at Florida's about 130 prisons to see if some prices can be lowered,
>> Department of Corrections spokeswoman Gretl Plessinger said Friday. Prices
>> at the snack shops, called canteens, were last changed in October. While
>> it's not unusual to get complaints when prices increase, Plessinger said
>> there seem to be more this time.
>>
>> "Prices are going up everywhere," Plessinger said. "We're sympathetic to
>> them, but it's tough on everyone."
>>
>> Prices went up March 30. Peanut M&Ms and Snickers bars jumped from 66 cents
>> to 89 cents. A can of Coke that used to cost 57 cents now costs 89.
>>
>> But the price increase that has prompted the most outrage is on Honey Buns.
>> The old price for the cinnamon pastry with icing was 66 cents. Now it's 99
>> cents. A chocolate variety of the sweet went from 61 cents to $1.49.
>>
>> The department is looking at possibly substituting another less-expensive
>> brand, Plessinger said.
>>
>> Also up: cigarettes. A pack of Marlboro cigarettes used to cost $3.70 but is
>> now $4.47 -- an increase of 77 cents. The increase is, in part, the result
>> of 62-cent-per-pack federal sales tax increase that went into effect April
>> 1. Prisons in other states also reported increasing their prices on
>> cigarettes as a result.
>>
>> Money from canteen sales goes into the state's general fund, about $30
>> million last year according to the department. The prices have to be in line
>> with what the general public pays for goods.
>>
>> The department contracts with Missouri-based Keefe Commissary Network to
>> supply the commissaries. Mark Jensen, senior vice president of Centric
>> Group, Keefe's parent company, said the nationwide supplier of products to
>> correctional facility commissaries doesn't comment on current customers or
>> contracts.
>>
>> Inmates use a plastic ID card that works like a debit card to buy items.
>> Some prisoners have jobs that pay a small amount, but most money is
>> deposited in an inmate's account by family members.
>>
>> Jill Lopez has two young children and a fiance in prison in Raiford in north
>> Florida who she sends between $20 and $40 a week.
>>
>> "I can't send him any more. There's no way," said Lopez, 46, a Fort Pierce
>> secretary who makes $12 an hour.
>>
>> Lopez's fiance, Fred Whyms, 39, has about two years left in prison for
>> dealing in stolen property. He told her inmates are extremely frustrated
>> with the price increases and that some items are going missing.
>>
>> "They're all freaking out," Lopez said in a telephone interview. "You have
>> grown men that are hungry. What's going to happen? There're going to be more
>> fights. People are going to crankier."
>>
>> In some places that has already happened, according to Charles Norman, an
>> inmate serving a life sentence at the Tomoka Correctional Institution in
>> Daytona Beach.
>>
>> "Prisoners whose families sacrificed to send them money to buy sweets,
>> drinks, food items, and toiletries were getting assaulted, and their canteen
>> bags taken from them," he wrote in a newsletter e-mailed to friends. "The
>> strong ones armed themselves."
>>
>> In an e-mail, Department of Corrections spokesman Alex Thompson said they
>> had not gotten any complaints that the price increases resulted in abuse..."
>>
>> </>
>>
>>
>> Copyright 2009 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not
>> be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

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On 2009-05-11, Mack A Damia > wrote:

> He also told me that Barbara Bush and other politico-types own
> sizeable portions of the enterprise.
>
> Explosion in prison construction in the 80s and 90s - explosion in
> arrests for, say, minor drug offenses during the same period.


This due to incarceration having become a profit based business as opposed
to merely a necessary social evil. Can't make no money if them prisons
aren't full. :|

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On Mon, 11 May 2009 15:37:11 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2009-05-11, Mack A Damia > wrote:
>
>> He also told me that Barbara Bush and other politico-types own
>> sizeable portions of the enterprise.
>>
>> Explosion in prison construction in the 80s and 90s - explosion in
>> arrests for, say, minor drug offenses during the same period.

>
>This due to incarceration having become a profit based business as opposed
>to merely a necessary social evil. Can't make no money if them prisons
>aren't full. :|


This is the company..

"The department contracts with Missouri-based Keefe Commissary Network
to supply the commissaries..."

A little gold mine.
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