On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:01:25 -0500 in rec.food.cooking, Omelet
> wrote,
>In article >,
> Frank > wrote:
>> >
>> I never go out in the woods without my gps and cell phone
>
>And don't forget the rescue beacon!

What is rescue bacon? Do you have a recipe?

Oh. Never mind.

I hadn't thought of that. Good idea.

Where I am, in the USA, they havn't sold 35 MM film in
containers for the last few years. They come in a cardboard
box, and inside that is a metal foil pouch.

When I was kid, "film cans" were steel. They would rust if
left outside. Then they changed to aluminum, which was much
lighter weight. And then they went to plastic with snap off
caps. Then, the foil pouches.

With butane cigarette lighters, the spark usually works long
after the butane gas is used up. I take the metal shield
off, the spark is still useful for lighting flammable things
like alcohol first aid pads, or fluffed up cotton and
vaseline.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Basil Karlo" > wrote in message
...


Q-tips cut in half work well too. A film jar will hold many
weeks worth.

THE ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER
The Original Version..

The ant busts his ass in the withering heat all summer long,
building
his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The
grasshopper
thinks he's a fool and laughs and dances and plays the
summer away.
Come winter the ant is warm and well fed. The grasshopper
has no food
or shelter so he dies out in the cold.


The New Liberal Version...

It starts out the same but when winter comes the shivering
grasshopper
calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant
should be
allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and
starving.
CBS, NBC, and ABC show up and show pictures of the shivering
grasshopper next to film of the ant in his comfortable home
with a
table filled with food.

America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can it be, in
a country
of such wealth that this poor grasshopper is allowed to
suffer so?
Then a representative of the NAAGB (The National Association
of Green
Bugs) shows up on Night Line and charges the ant with "Green
Bias" and
makes the case that the grasshopper is the victim of 30
million years
of greenism. Kermit the frog appears on Oprah with the
grasshopper and
everybody cries when he sings "It's Not Easy Being Green."

Bill and Hillary Clinton make a special guest appearance on
the CBS
evening news and tell a concerned Dan Rather That they will
do
everything they can for the grasshopper who has been denied
the
prosperity he deserves by those who benefited unfairly
during the
summer, or as Bill refers to it, the "Temperatures Of The
80's".

Finally the EEOC drafts the "Economic Equity and
Anti-Greenism Act"
RECTRO-ACTIVE to the beginning of the summer. The ant is
fined for
failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and
having
nothing left to pay his Retro-Active taxes, his home is
confiscated by
the government.

The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the
last bits of
the ant's food while the government house he's in....which
just
happens to be the ant's old house.... crumbles around him
since he
doesn't know how to maintain it. The ant has disappeared in
the snow.
And on the TV; which the grasshopper bought by selling most
of the
ant's food, Bill Clinton is standing before a wildly
applauding group
of Democrats announcing that a new era of "Fairness" has
dawned in
America.

THE END

Author Jim Quinn, WRRK FM 97 in Pittsburgh



The New Orleans Version...

It starts out the same but when winter comes the shivering
grasshopper
is loaded on to a bus, and taken to Houston, to live in the
Super
Dome. He lives in miserable situation, and complains
endlessly about
his plight. He is released to Dallas, and given a $2,000
debit card,
which he promptly spends on grass, greens, and wine and
beer. He is
found dead in an alley, having died of cirrhosis of the
liver.

Bill and Hillary Clinton make a special guest appearance on
the CBS
evening news and tell a concerned Dan Rather That they will
do
everything they can for the grasshopper who has been driven
out of his
home. At the expense of those who benefited unfairly in New
Orleans.

Finally the FEMA and National Guard guys get around to the
ant's home.
The hard working ant is found to be hoarding, and is
handcuffed, and
dragged out. The National Guard finds stores of grains, and
other
foods and water. The grains, food, and water are loaded onto
trucks,
and taken back to FEMA headquarters. Where the grains sit in
a
warehouse.

The ant is tried under anti-hoarding laws, and his home is
confiscated
by the government.

The story ends as we see the grasshopper's remains rotting
in an
alley. The ant is relocated to a FEMA camp in Idaho, where
he lives a
long, and bitter life. Complaining endlessly about what hard
work got
him.

========================

THE BRITISH VERSION

The ant works hard in the withering heat all
summer long, building his house and laying up
supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks
he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the
summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and
well fed.

The shivering grasshopper calls a press
conference and demands to know why the ant should
be allowed to be warm and well fed while others
less fortunate, like him, are cold and starving.

The BBC shows up to provide live coverage of the
shivering grasshopper; with cuts to a video of
the ant in his comfortable warm home with a table
laden with food.

Britons are stunned that in a country of such
wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to
suffer so while others have plenty.

The Labour Party, Greenpeace and The Grasshopper
Council of GB demonstrate in front of the ant's
house. The BBC, interrupting a Jamaican cultural
festival special from Notting Hill with breaking
news, broadcasts them singing "We Shall Overcome"

Ken Livingstone rants in an interview with Trevor
McDonald that the ant has gotten rich off the
backs of grasshoppers, and calls for an immediate
tax hike on the ant to make him pay his "fair
share".

In response to polls, the Labour Government
drafts the Economic Equity and Grasshopper Anti
Discrimination Act, retroactive to the beginning
of the summer.

The ant's taxes are reassessed, and he is also
fined for failing to hire grasshoppers as helpers.

Without enough money to pay both the fine and his
newly imposed retroactive taxes, the government
repossesses his home.

The ant moves to Spain, and starts a successful
wine-exporting
company.

A Panorama special later shows the now fat
grasshopper finishing up the last of the ant's
food, though Spring is still months away, while
the council house he is in, which just happens to
be the ant's old house, crumbles around him
because he hasn't bothered to maintain it.

Inadequate government funding is blamed, Trevor
Phillips is appointed to head a commission of
enquiry that will cost £10,000,000.

The grasshopper is soon dead of a drug overdose,
the Daily Mirror blames it on the obvious failure
of government to address the root causes of
despair arising from social inequity.

The abandoned house is taken over by a gang of
immigrant spiders, praised by the government for
enriching Britain's multicultural diversity, who
promptly set up a marijuana plantation and
terrorise the community.

THE END

======================

THE ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER
The New Conservative "Neocon" Version...

The ant busts his ass in the withering heat all summer long,
building
his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The
grasshopper
thinks he's a fool and laughs and dances and plays the
summer away.
Come winter the ant is warm and well fed. The grasshopper
has no food
or shelter and thus develops severe lazyassiopsia.

A large pharmaceutical, Wasp Meds, Inc., decides a study on
lazyassiopisia is needed and says the ant, all the other
ants and all
the grasshoppers and other insects, have to pay for it.
Further
research, also funded by the ants, grasshoppers, and other
insects
(all except the Wasps), reveals a drug that may *possibly*
be of
benefit to those with lazyassiopsia.

The ants et al. funds the research and trials for the drug.

The High Council of Insects (aka, the Gruberment), says the
drug is
safe and necessary and grants them a patent.

Wasp Med, Inc., who gives a large amount of the ants et al.
money to
their friends in the Gruberment, steers clear of all
television or
other media, except to say that they have a wonder drug for
lazyassioposia. They do not tell the other ants et al. that
they all
have paid for this wonder drug themselves.

The wasps sell the drug for $1,000. It costs them $1 to make
it. The
make lots and lots of money. Wasp Meds, Inc. ask the
Gruberment for
more of the ants et al. money to make an even better drug.
The
Gruberment says, "Sure!"

The ants, the grasshopper and the other insects (except for
the
wasps), have to work harder and harder for the money they
need to
support themselves and also give to the Gruberment (who
gives a lot of
it to Wasp Meds, Inc.).

Then, suddenly, one day a Robin tore open an ant hill and
killed and
ate the ants inside. The Gruberment decided this could not
be allowed.
They assembled an army of ants, grasshoppers and other
insects to
attack the Robins. And they killed 3 of them. 200 ants, 145
grasshoppers, and 300 other insects were killed in the
battle. But
everyone in the Kingdom of the Ants were very proud.

But then the Gruberment decided that maybe Mice could also
come and
attack the kingdom of insects. They did not care that Mice
did not eat
ants or other insects. The Gruberment told all the ants,
grasshoppers
and other insects that the Mice might come and eat them if
they did
not kill them all first. The ants, grasshoppers and other
insects were
very afraid. They had never seen a Mouse, but the Gruberment
said they
were very dangerous. So another army of insects were sent to
Miceraki.
The insects killed many, many Mice. They tore up their nests
and
destroyed the land of Miceraki.

The Gruberment told the ants, grasshoppers and other insects
that the
High Holy Insect in the Sky saw all the killing and said it
was good.
The insects were very proud, althought they weren't quite
sure why.

The insects fought bravely, and some of them died. They
needed food
and other things to keep on fighting the Mice.

Back in the Kingdom of the Insects, another company, called
Weevilburton, said they would provide everything the army of
the
insects needed, but it would cost a lot of money. The ants,
grasshoppers and other insects had to give the Gruberment
more money
so it could pay Weevilburton to bring food and other things
to the
army of insects. Weevilburton took the money, but didn't
send the food
and other things to the army of the insects. Weevilburton
made a lot
of money.

Over in Miceraki, the army of the insects had killed almost
40,000
Mice. And almost 1,000 insects had been killed. The Mice
didn't
understand why the insects wanted to kill them........ and
neither did
the insects, really.

20 years later, the insects are still in Miceraki fighting
the Mice.
Neither the Mice or the insects know why. Many have died.
The Mice are
still angry they were attacked without reason so they have
been
sending Mice squads into the Kingdom of the Insects to kill
insects.
The insects are afraid all the time now. The Kingdom of the
Insects
sends more insects into Miceraki to kill more Mice.

The ants have forgotten all about their crops and laying up
supplies.
The grasshoppers haven't thought about laughing or dancing
or playing
for many, many years.

The Weevilburtons lived happily ever after in their nests of
gold.

The Ants, Grasshoppers and other insects are still fighting
the Mice.
The Ants, Grasshoppers, other insects and the Mice are still
killing
each other.

They still do not know why.

THE END

==============

Dave wrote:
> Frank Myers wrote:
>
>
> What has this got to do with the ng I post to?
>
>

Probably nothing - the OP was cross posted, probably a troll.

--
Jette Goldie

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Dave wrote:
> Frank Myers wrote:
>> Wilderness survival techniques and tips

<Snip>

> What has this got to do with the ng I post to?

Perhaps little or perhaps a lot, depends which group you post to.

--
Old Codger
e-mail use reply to field

What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make
people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]

Steve Terry > wrote:

> > **** OFF FOLLETT!
> >
> >
> That's not very nice, you'd have more effect giving Jim a big wet kiss

On the knob, like Steve Terry does.

I am going to experiment with q-tips and triple antibiotic ointment like
neosporin to see if it will behave like vaseline when lit. It looks and
feels similar, maybe it will burn the same way. If so, the q-tips can serve
a dual purpose.

"Stormin Mormon" > wrote in message
...
> I hadn't thought of that. Good idea.
>
> Where I am, in the USA, they havn't sold 35 MM film in
> containers for the last few years. They come in a cardboard
> box, and inside that is a metal foil pouch.
>
> When I was kid, "film cans" were steel. They would rust if
> left outside. Then they changed to aluminum, which was much
> lighter weight. And then they went to plastic with snap off
> caps. Then, the foil pouches.
>
> With butane cigarette lighters, the spark usually works long
> after the butane gas is used up. I take the metal shield
> off, the spark is still useful for lighting flammable things
> like alcohol first aid pads, or fluffed up cotton and
> vaseline.
>
> --
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
> .
>
>
> "Basil Karlo" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
> Q-tips cut in half work well too. A film jar will hold many
> weeks worth.
>
>

"Stormin Mormon" > wrote in message
...
>
> THE ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER
> The Original Version..
>
> The ant busts his ass in the withering heat all summer long,
> building
> his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The
> grasshopper
> thinks he's a fool and laughs and dances and plays the
> summer away.
> Come winter the ant is warm and well fed. The grasshopper
> has no food
> or shelter so he dies out in the cold.
>
>

The Chicago version..

Grasshopper, Grasshopper in the snow.
He has a broken leg, you know?
I fed him water. I fed him bread.
Then I crushed his ****ing head.

Have a nice day.

I sense that the carrier is water based, and won't burn.
Please try it, and write up what you find. I could easily be
mistaken.

On an outdoor trip a couple weeks ago. I tried foamy
Vaseline hand cream, for fire starter. Useless. Finally, I
read the label and find out it's about 15% vaseline. Which
means 85% water. Oops.

Mineral oil "baby oil" is combustible. Also most kinds of
cooking oil will burn. Cooking oil takes some convincing to
get it to burn. But, some cooking oil in paper towel will
burn for a while after it lights.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Basil Karlo" > wrote in message
...
I am going to experiment with q-tips and triple antibiotic
ointment like
neosporin to see if it will behave like vaseline when lit.
It looks and
feels similar, maybe it will burn the same way. If so, the
q-tips can serve
a dual purpose.

"Steve Firth" > wrote in message
.. .
> Steve Terry > wrote:
>
>> > **** OFF FOLLETT!
>> >
>> That's not very nice, you'd have more effect giving Jim a big wet kiss
>
> On the knob, like Steve Terry does.
>
It was you watching then?

Steve Terry

In message >, Basil Karlo
> writes

>I am going to experiment with q-tips

Try experimenting with chronological posting. You know it makes sense.

--
James Follett. Novelist. (G1LXP) http://www.jamesfollett.dswilliams.co.uk
http://www.pbase.com/jamesfollett

"Steve Terry" > wrote in message
...
> "Steve Firth" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> Steve Terry > wrote:
>>
>>> > **** OFF FOLLETT!
>>> >
>>> That's not very nice, you'd have more effect giving Jim a big wet kiss
>>
>> On the knob, like Steve Terry does.
>>
> It was you watching then?
>
oh HA HA I just love that dry British humor.

:

Steve Terry > wrote:

> "Steve Firth" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > Steve Terry > wrote:
> >
> >> > **** OFF FOLLETT!
> >> >
> >> That's not very nice, you'd have more effect giving Jim a big wet kiss
> >
> > On the knob, like Steve Terry does.
> >
> It was you watching then?

You will find, as with your unnatural love for Follett, that in humour
coming second doesn't count.

In message >, Steve Firth
> writes

>Steve Terry > wrote:
>
>> "Steve Firth" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> > Steve Terry > wrote:
>> >
>> >> > **** OFF FOLLETT!
>> >> >
>> >> That's not very nice, you'd have more effect giving Jim a big wet kiss
>> >
>> > On the knob, like Steve Terry does.
>> >
>> It was you watching then?
>
>You will find, as with your unnatural love for Follett, that in humour
>coming second doesn't count.

Steve Firth, my beloved, you're the one with an obsessive neurosis.
Steve Terry once expressed his independence by having the temerity to
agree with me once on something so mundane, so trivial, so banal that
I've forgotten what it was about. I suspect most others have, too. But
you haven't, have you? You can't because your hatred of me has burned so
deep into your physic, festered away over ten years so fiercely that
you've allowed it to destroy your reason and, in so doing, you've
permitted others to seize control of personality. The slightest whiff
that the hated Jew boy, Follett, might be right or, perish the thought,
might even be worth reading, is enough to push you effortlessly down the
greasy chute into the black depths of your hatred prompting you to trot
out your obscene innuendoes about my imagined sexual preferences that
exist only in your hate-filled fantasies and have no bearing on reality
or plain, simple facts. Your currency isn't truth. Like all fanatics
you've paid the price of your fanaticism by handing control of your
blinkered emotions to others. If I wanted to I could choreograph an even
uglier dance routine for you than the one of your own creation but I'm
content to sit back and watch you do a bit of foaming and allow myself
an occasional wry chuckle at your absurd posturing.

Don't forget your favourite word 'sycophant'; a post from you without it
isn't the same and remember my adage that the Usenet is there to be
enjoyed, not endured. I'm doing all the enjoying; you're doing all the
enduring.

--
James Follett. Novelist. (G1LXP) http://www.jamesfollett.dswilliams.co.uk
"A potent and exploitable human force is the envy of the ignorant, the idle and
the unfortunate for those who are industrious and successful." Erich Fromm I
think.

On Sun, 03 May 2009 01:22:56 +0100, james wrote:

> Don't forget your favourite word 'sycophant'; a post from you without it
> isn't the same and remember my adage that the Usenet is there to be
> enjoyed, not endured. I'm doing all the enjoying; you're doing all the
> enduring.

But what are you enjoying about it?

--
One way ticket from Mornington Crescent to Tannhauser Gate please.

"Steve Firth" > wrote in message
...
> Steve Terry > wrote:
>
>> "Steve Firth" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> > Steve Terry > wrote:
>> >
>> >> > **** OFF FOLLETT!
>> >> >
>> >> That's not very nice, you'd have more effect giving Jim a big wet kiss
>> >
>> > On the knob, like Steve Terry does.
>> >
>> It was you watching then?
>
> You will find, as with your unnatural love for Follett, that in humour
> coming second doesn't count.
>
>
The "name of the rose" is all that counts, the order doesn't matter

Steve Terry

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Steve Terry" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Steve Firth" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> Steve Terry > wrote:
>>>
>>>> > **** OFF FOLLETT!
>>>> >
>>>> That's not very nice, you'd have more effect giving Jim a big wet kiss
>>>
>>> On the knob, like Steve Terry does.
>>>
>> It was you watching then?
>>
> oh HA HA I just love that dry British humor.
>
> :
Oh are you 'Merrican?
I've been there, it is truly the land of the common man,
that man being usually the lowest common denominator.

Most Europeans who haven't been to the US, don't realise
Homer Simpson is an intellectual

Steve Terry

On Sun, 3 May 2009 17:21:50 +0100, Steve Terry >
wrote the following to uk.misc:

>
> "Steve Firth" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Steve Terry > wrote:
>>
>>> "Steve Firth" > wrote in message
>>> .. .
>>> > Steve Terry > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> > **** OFF FOLLETT!
>>> >> >
>>> >> That's not very nice, you'd have more effect giving Jim a big wet kiss
>>> >
>>> > On the knob, like Steve Terry does.
>>> >
>>> It was you watching then?
>>
>> You will find, as with your unnatural love for Follett, that in humour
>> coming second doesn't count.
>>
>>
> The "name of the rose" is all that counts, the order doesn't matter

Most people give their "rose" a slightly more fundamental name.


mh.
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http://personal.nukesoft.co.uk

From address is a blackhole. Reply-to address is valid.

In message >, Fevric J Glandules
> writes
>On Sun, 03 May 2009 01:22:56 +0100, james wrote:
>
>> Don't forget your favourite word 'sycophant'; a post from you without it
>> isn't the same and remember my adage that the Usenet is there to be
>> enjoyed, not endured. I'm doing all the enjoying; you're doing all the
>> enduring.
>
>But what are you enjoying about it?

Despite Steve Firth's libellous observations dredged from his amazing
imagination about my sexual preferences, I've reached an age when I
prefer pulling legs to birds.

--
James Follett. Novelist. (G1LXP) http://www.jamesfollett.dswilliams.co.uk
http://www.pbase.com/jamesfollett

On Sun, 3 May 2009 17:26:35 +0100, Steve Terry wrote:

> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Steve Terry" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Steve Firth" > wrote in message
>>> .. .
>>>> Steve Terry > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > **** OFF FOLLETT!
>>>>> >
>>>>> That's not very nice, you'd have more effect giving Jim a big wet kiss
>>>>
>>>> On the knob, like Steve Terry does.
>>>>
>>> It was you watching then?
>>>
>> oh HA HA I just love that dry British humor.
>>
>>:
> Oh are you 'Merrican?
> I've been there, it is truly the land of the common man,
> that man being usually the lowest common denominator.
>
> Most Europeans who haven't been to the US, don't realise
> Homer Simpson is an intellectual
>
> Steve Terry

as opposed to the towering intellects on the uk.* groups? gosh, i never
knew.

blake

Beyond the basic necessities, different folks have different ideas
about what to carry in a survival kit. YMMV

But I agree completely with the idea of being prepared.

One of the most valuable bits of training I ever received was USAF
"survival School." And a fundamental warning was, "never fly over
anything you're not prepared to walk out of." (Of course there are
exceptions, but the concept is sound.)

Throughout many years of flying, I've always had my own collection of
survival items stuffed into the side pocket of my flight bag and never
took off without them.

DaveinFLL

"Basil Karlo" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Stormin Mormon" > wrote in message
> ...
>> When we talk about coating something. I'm thinking along the
>> lines of a candy coating on M and M candies. Chocolate
>> coating for a Snickers bar. How would one coat a cotton ball
>> with vaseline, and keep the center dry?
>>
>> If you saturate (through to the center) a cotton ball, it
>> will light with a spark. I didn't believe this, until I
>> tried it. Even the polyester balls "cosmetic puffs" will
>> light and burn. Vaseline in a cotton ball makes a very
>> effective fire tinder. Good flame, and puts out considerable
>> heat, for several minutes.

Boil a largish kettle of water on three pebbles (to support it) and a 1ounce
lump of plastic explosive in the centre of the theree pebbles. Light the
plastic exposive with a match.

"Ian" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Basil Karlo" > wrote in
> message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Stormin Mormon" >
>> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> When we talk about coating something. I'm thinking along
>>> the
>>> lines of a candy coating on M and M candies. Chocolate
>>> coating for a Snickers bar. How would one coat a cotton
>>> ball
>>> with vaseline, and keep the center dry?
>>>
>>> If you saturate (through to the center) a cotton ball,
>>> it
>>> will light with a spark. I didn't believe this, until I
>>> tried it. Even the polyester balls "cosmetic puffs" will
>>> light and burn. Vaseline in a cotton ball makes a very
>>> effective fire tinder. Good flame, and puts out
>>> considerable
>>> heat, for several minutes.
>
> Boil a largish kettle of water on three pebbles (to
> support it) and a 1ounce
> lump of plastic explosive in the centre of the theree
> pebbles. Light the
> plastic exposive with a match.
>

I used to carry a block of C4 when in Vietnam that I used
pieces of for
heating C-rats instead of using the heat tabs, C4 also
burned longer and hotter
and didn't have all the fumes of the heat tabs.
CC

In article
>,
"CC" > wrote:

> I used to carry a block of C4 when in Vietnam that I used
> pieces of for
> heating C-rats instead of using the heat tabs, C4 also
> burned longer and hotter
> and didn't have all the fumes of the heat tabs.
> CC

I'm betting that that was what it was originally designed for.
Trust the Gubbermint to make a weapon out of a useful tool.
--
Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.


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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article
> >,
> "CC" > wrote:
>
>> I used to carry a block of C4 when in Vietnam that I used
>> pieces of for
>> heating C-rats instead of using the heat tabs, C4 also
>> burned longer and hotter
>> and didn't have all the fumes of the heat tabs.
>> CC
>
> I'm betting that that was what it was originally designed
> for.
> Trust the Gubbermint to make a weapon out of a useful
> tool.
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
> It's about learning to dance in the rain.
> -- Anon.
>
>
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Actually, I think it was originally to be
used with a det cap to use as an explosive
pretty safe without the cap in it.
CC