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I looked on the label of a small can of tomato sauce, and I noticed
that the main ingredient was tomato paste. So would you be better off just buying paste, and adding liquid to it? or would it not make much difference. I have been a label reader for forty years, and cannot believe that I never noticed this before. Thanks Tom |
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![]() "Andy" > wrote in message ... > said... > >> I looked on the label of a small can of tomato sauce, and I noticed >> that the main ingredient was tomato paste. So would you be better off >> just buying paste, and adding liquid to it? or would it not make much >> difference. I have been a label reader for forty years, and cannot >> believe that I never noticed this before. > > > Tomato paste is much more natural. > Do you mean like natural breasts as averse to implants? |
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James Silverton wrote:
> wrote on Mon, 4 May 2009 12:36:26 -0700 (PDT): > >> Thanks >> I looked on the label of a small can of tomato sauce, and I noticed >> that the main ingredient was tomato paste. So would you be better off >> just buying paste, and adding liquid to it? or would it not make >> muchdifference. I have been a label reader for forty years, and >> cannotbelieve that I never noticed this before. > > It's just a matter of convenience. There's less bother if a brand of > sauce pleases you but you might start with the paste if you intend to > add your own herbs etc. > Yep. We even make our own tomato juice from paste now (we buy paste with no spices), since the day we noticed that all the tomato juice we were buying was from concentrate anyway. Serene -- 42 Magazine, celebrating life with meaning. Inaugural issue is here! http://42magazine.com "But here's a handy hint: if your fabulous theory for ending war and all other human conflict will not survive an online argument with humourless feminists who are not afraid to throw rape around as an example, your theory needs work." -- Aqua, alt.polyamory |
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brooklyn1 said...
> > "Andy" > wrote in message news:Xns9C01A19F48C7CCotD@ 216.196.97.131... >> said... >> >>> I looked on the label of a small can of tomato sauce, and I noticed >>> that the main ingredient was tomato paste. So would you be better off >>> just buying paste, and adding liquid to it? or would it not make much >>> difference. I have been a label reader for forty years, and cannot >>> believe that I never noticed this before. >> >> >> Tomato paste is much more natural. >> > Do you mean like natural breasts as averse to implants? Heh heh heh! Ya BUM!!! But ya got me thinkin'!!! ![]() Best, Andy -- HONK if I'm paying your mortgage! |
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![]() > wrote: >I looked on the label of a small can of tomato sauce, and I noticed > that the main ingredient was tomato paste. So would you be better off > just buying paste, and adding liquid to it? or would it not make much > difference. I have been a label reader for forty years, and cannot > believe that I never noticed this before. > > Tomato You obviously have not been reading labels carefully... with just about every product that contains tomato the tomato is reconstitued tomato paste/concentrate... all tomato sauce, all tomato juice, all ketchup, even Heinz. This the only reasonable method for maintaining product consistancy. |
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On May 4, 2:54*pm, Andy > wrote:
> said... > > > I looked on the label of a small can of tomato sauce, and I noticed > > that the main ingredient was tomato paste. So would you be better off > > just buying paste, and adding liquid to it? or would it not make much > > difference. I have been a label reader for forty years, and cannot > > believe that I never noticed this before. > > > Thanks > > Tomato paste is much more natural. > > I enjoy the tang of paste. YMMV. Me too. Especially Contadina. I make a pasta sauce that has nothing but paste, water and bay leaf. I simmer browned meatballs in it. The meatballs have nothing in them but very lean ground beef, pulverized fat free saltines, and EVOO. Simmering mellows the acid, and no sugar is needed. This was my mother's recipe, except that she used regular saltines, and fattier ground beef. Substituting EVOO for all the fat in the saltines, and most of the fat in the beef, IMO, improves the flavor. > > Best, > > Andy > -- --Bryan listen @ http://www.MySpace.com/TheBonobos "The 1960's called. They want their recipe back." --Steve Wertz in rec.food.cooking 4-20-2009 |
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On May 4, 3:46*pm, Serene Vannoy > wrote:
> James Silverton wrote: > > *wrote *on Mon, 4 May 2009 12:36:26 -0700 (PDT): > > >> Thanks > >> I looked on the label of a small can of tomato sauce, and I noticed > >> that the main ingredient was tomato paste. So would you be better off > >> just buying paste, and adding liquid to it? or would it not make > >> muchdifference. I have been a label reader for forty years, and > >> cannotbelieve that I never noticed this before. > > > It's just a matter of convenience. There's less bother if a brand of > > sauce pleases you but you might start with the paste if you intend to > > add your own herbs etc. > > Yep. We even make our own tomato juice from paste now (we buy paste with > no spices), since the day we noticed that all the tomato juice we were > buying was from concentrate anyway. The Wal Mart brand is "not from concentrate." It's cheap, and tastes good, at least as good as canned tomato juice can taste. > > Serene > > -- > 42 Magazine, celebrating life with meaning. Inaugural issue is here!http://42magazine.com > > "But here's a handy hint: *if your fabulous theory for ending war and > all other human conflict will not survive an online argument with > humourless feminists who are not afraid to throw rape around as an > example, your theory needs work." -- Aqua, alt.polyamory --Bryan listen @ http://www.MySpace.com/TheBonobos "The 1960's called. They want their recipe back." --Steve Wertz in rec.food.cooking 4-20-2009 |
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On Mon, 04 May 2009 13:46:28 -0700, Serene Vannoy
> wrote: >James Silverton wrote: >> wrote on Mon, 4 May 2009 12:36:26 -0700 (PDT): >> >>> Thanks >>> I looked on the label of a small can of tomato sauce, and I noticed >>> that the main ingredient was tomato paste. So would you be better off >>> just buying paste, and adding liquid to it? or would it not make >>> muchdifference. I have been a label reader for forty years, and >>> cannotbelieve that I never noticed this before. >> >> It's just a matter of convenience. There's less bother if a brand of >> sauce pleases you but you might start with the paste if you intend to >> add your own herbs etc. Dang, I didn't know that. I just tossed out the better part of a can of tomato paste after using a couple tablespoons to thicken a sauce. Never again. |
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On May 4, 7:58*pm, thudpucker > wrote:
> On Mon, 04 May 2009 13:46:28 -0700, Serene Vannoy > > > wrote: > >James Silverton wrote: > >> *wrote *on Mon, 4 May 2009 12:36:26 -0700 (PDT): > > >>> Thanks > >>> I looked on the label of a small can of tomato sauce, and I noticed > >>> that the main ingredient was tomato paste. So would you be better off > >>> just buying paste, and adding liquid to it? or would it not make > >>> muchdifference. I have been a label reader for forty years, and > >>> cannotbelieve that I never noticed this before. > > >> It's just a matter of convenience. There's less bother if a brand of > >> sauce pleases you but you might start with the paste if you intend to > >> add your own herbs etc. > > Dang, I didn't know that. *I just tossed out the better part of a can > of tomato paste after using a couple tablespoons to thicken a sauce. > > Never again. Really. Tomato juice reconsituted from paste is decent, especially made with less water than is in standard juice. Use Contadina or a store brand knockoff, and it's better than the "from concentrate" canned stuff. --Bryan listen @ http://www.MySpace.com/TheBonobos "The 1960's called. They want their recipe back." --Steve Wertz in rec.food.cooking 4-20-2009 |
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thudpucker wrote on Mon, 04 May 2009 17:58:26 -0700:
>> James Silverton wrote: >>> wrote on Mon, 4 May 2009 12:36:26 -0700 >>> (PDT): >>> >>>> Thanks >>>> I looked on the label of a small can of tomato sauce, and I >>>> noticed that the main ingredient was tomato paste. So would >>>> you be better off just buying paste, and adding liquid to >>>> it? or would it not make muchdifference. I have been a >>>> label reader for forty years, and cannotbelieve that I >>>> never noticed this before. >>> >>> It's just a matter of convenience. There's less bother if a >>> brand of sauce pleases you but you might start with the >>> paste if you intend to add your own herbs etc. > Dang, I didn't know that. I just tossed out the better part > of a can of tomato paste after using a couple tablespoons to > thicken a sauce. You can get tubes (like tooth-paste) of tomato paste and they keep quite well in the fridge. I routinely freeze and defrost tomato paste in small plastic containers like those made by Glad. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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thudpucker > wrote: > On Mon, 04 May 2009 13:46:28 -0700, Serene Vannoy > > wrote: > > >James Silverton wrote: > >> wrote on Mon, 4 May 2009 12:36:26 -0700 (PDT): > >> > >>> Thanks > >>> I looked on the label of a small can of tomato sauce, and I noticed > >>> that the main ingredient was tomato paste. So would you be better off > >>> just buying paste, and adding liquid to it? or would it not make > >>> muchdifference. I have been a label reader for forty years, and > >>> cannotbelieve that I never noticed this before. > >> > >> It's just a matter of convenience. There's less bother if a brand of > >> sauce pleases you but you might start with the paste if you intend to > >> add your own herbs etc. > > Dang, I didn't know that. I just tossed out the better part of a can > of tomato paste after using a couple tablespoons to thicken a sauce. > > Never again. Leftover tomato paste in a can freezes just fine. There is no reason at all to waste it! -- Peace! Om Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It's about learning to dance in the rain. -- Anon. |
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Omelet wrote:
> Leftover tomato paste in a can freezes just fine. There is no reason at > all to waste it! What I do is put the paste in a zip-loc and freeze it flat. Makes it easy to break off what ya need. |
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Serene Vannoy > wrote: > Yep. We even make our own tomato juice from paste > Serene How much water for how much paste, Serene? -B -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://web.me.com/barbschaller - good news 4-6-2009 "What you say about someone else says more about you than it does about the other person." |
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Food Snob® wrote:
> On May 4, 3:46 pm, Serene Vannoy > wrote: >> Yep. We even make our own tomato juice from paste now (we buy paste with >> no spices), since the day we noticed that all the tomato juice we were >> buying was from concentrate anyway. > > The Wal Mart brand is "not from concentrate." It's cheap, and tastes > good, at least as good as canned tomato juice can taste. I am so surprised that you shop at Wal-mart. Serene -- 42 Magazine, celebrating life with meaning. Inaugural issue is here! http://42magazine.com "But here's a handy hint: if your fabulous theory for ending war and all other human conflict will not survive an online argument with humourless feminists who are not afraid to throw rape around as an example, your theory needs work." -- Aqua, alt.polyamory |
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >, > Serene Vannoy > wrote: > >> Yep. We even make our own tomato juice from paste >> Serene > > How much water for how much paste, Serene? Depends on the brand of tomato paste. The Costco organic tomato paste is really thick, so it takes six cans of water per can of paste, and then about ten grams (more to taste) of salt. Other brands we've bought have been more like four to one. Serene -- 42 Magazine, celebrating life with meaning. Inaugural issue is here! http://42magazine.com "But here's a handy hint: if your fabulous theory for ending war and all other human conflict will not survive an online argument with humourless feminists who are not afraid to throw rape around as an example, your theory needs work." -- Aqua, alt.polyamory |
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"Melba's Jammin'" wrote:
> Serene Vannoy wrote: > >> Yep. We even make our own tomato juice from paste > > How much water for how much paste? > > Same as when you reconstitute frozen OJ... two cans water, one can vodka. |
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On May 4, 9:35*pm, Serene Vannoy > wrote:
> Food Snob® wrote: > > On May 4, 3:46 pm, Serene Vannoy > wrote: > >> Yep. We even make our own tomato juice from paste now (we buy paste with > >> no spices), since the day we noticed that all the tomato juice we were > >> buying was from concentrate anyway. > > > The Wal Mart brand is "not from concentrate." *It's cheap, and tastes > > good, at least as good as canned tomato juice can taste. > > I am so surprised that you shop at Wal-mart. If the competition is not as morally bad, they're just about as bad. When I notice that I'm out of eggs, milk, half&half, or the like, and it's 6:15am, I run up to WalMart, which is 3 or 4 blocks away. Their canned tomato juice is pretty good. The other things I buy from them are their generic "Equate" brand antihistamines and such. > > Serene > --Bryan listen @ http://www.MySpace.com/TheBonobos "The 1960's called. They want their recipe back." --Steve Wertz in rec.food.cooking 4-20-2009 |
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In article >,
Serene Vannoy > wrote: > Melba's Jammin' wrote: > > In article >, > > Serene Vannoy > wrote: > > > >> Yep. We even make our own tomato juice from paste > >> Serene > > > > How much water for how much paste, Serene? > > Depends on the brand of tomato paste. The Costco organic tomato paste is > really thick, so it takes six cans of water per can of paste, OK. Good to know that. Thanks. I keep tomato powder around when I want to add a bit of tomato flavor to vegetable soup or when I make stroganoff. (Hush, Wictor!!) > Other brands we've bought have been more like four to one. > Serene Thanks. It sounds like you figured it out by trial and error. -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://web.me.com/barbschaller - good news 4-6-2009 "What you say about someone else says more about you than it does about the other person." |
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![]() "thudpucker" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 04 May 2009 13:46:28 -0700, Serene Vannoy > > wrote: > >>James Silverton wrote: >>> wrote on Mon, 4 May 2009 12:36:26 -0700 (PDT): >>> >>>> Thanks >>>> I looked on the label of a small can of tomato sauce, and I noticed >>>> that the main ingredient was tomato paste. So would you be better off >>>> just buying paste, and adding liquid to it? or would it not make >>>> muchdifference. I have been a label reader for forty years, and >>>> cannotbelieve that I never noticed this before. >>> >>> It's just a matter of convenience. There's less bother if a brand of >>> sauce pleases you but you might start with the paste if you intend to >>> add your own herbs etc. > > Dang, I didn't know that. I just tossed out the better part of a can > of tomato paste after using a couple tablespoons to thicken a sauce. > > Never again. I try and get tomato paste in a tube. They keep in the frig forever despite stale dates and I never waste any. -- mompeagram FERGUS/HARLINGEN Owner http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rec-Food-Baking-cooking/ http://mompeagram.homestead.com |
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Serene Vannoy wrote:
> James Silverton wrote: >> wrote on Mon, 4 May 2009 12:36:26 -0700 (PDT): >> >>> Thanks >>> I looked on the label of a small can of tomato sauce, and I noticed >>> that the main ingredient was tomato paste. So would you be better off >>> just buying paste, and adding liquid to it? or would it not make >>> muchdifference. I have been a label reader for forty years, and >>> cannotbelieve that I never noticed this before. >> >> It's just a matter of convenience. There's less bother if a brand of >> sauce pleases you but you might start with the paste if you intend to >> add your own herbs etc. >> > > Yep. We even make our own tomato juice from paste now (we buy paste with > no spices), since the day we noticed that all the tomato juice we were > buying was from concentrate anyway. > > Serene > I'm sure others add to it, but for those that didn't think to, you can also add things like garlic powder, onion powder, celery salt, or even other juices. Be creative. For example, I love Clamato juice, but hate the amount of sodium in it, so adding clam juice to home made tomato juice (tomato paste at a ratio of about 1 6oz can to 26 oz water) with a few spices works well for me. Bob |
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On Tue, 5 May 2009 05:23:55 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob®
> wrote: >If the competition is not as morally bad, they're just about as bad. >When I notice that I'm out of eggs, milk, half&half, or the like, and >it's 6:15am, I run up to WalMart, which is 3 or 4 blocks away Convenience means a lot. I don't know if I could maintain my moral superiority if a Walmart was closer to me than an alternate store. Sad note on the home front. Apparently Walgreen's is buying out all Rite Aide locations here in the City which means less choice for us. According to a store employee, the transaction was held up by the Federal Trade Commission for a while to investigate "monopoly", which it will be here in SF. Walgreen's drove out most of the mom and pop drugstores, Rite Aide and Thrifty drove out the rest. Rite Aide bought Thrifty locally and now Walgreen's is gobbling up Rite Aide. I call no local competition a monopoly, but I guess the FTC bought another argument. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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"brooklyn1" > wrote:
> > wrote: > > >I looked on the label of a small can of tomato sauce, and I noticed > > that the main ingredient was tomato paste. So would you be better off > > just buying paste, and adding liquid to it? or would it not make much > > difference. I have been a label reader for forty years, and cannot > > believe that I never noticed this before. Formulas change over time. > You obviously have not been reading labels carefully... with just about > every product that contains tomato the tomato is reconstitued tomato > paste/concentrate... all tomato sauce, all tomato juice, all ketchup, even > Heinz. *This the only reasonable method for maintaining product consistancy. I started low carbing back in July 1999. At that time I read the labels of various brands of tomato paste. Contadina was made of tomatos and nothing else. All the other brands that I checked (Hunts, Heinz, a couple of store brands) at that time had added sugar under one name or another. I checked brands again several years later and then all of them contained no added sugar. This same pattern of formulas changing over time happens with all sorts of other products as well. Once I found Carefree sugarless gum that used saccharine instead of aspartame. I have not seen it again since. Diet RC Cola has also gone through various formulas with and without caffeine, with various artificial sweeteners all while Diet Rite made by the same company has stayed caffeine free and made with sucralose. Let's see if I have it right with tomato products: Tomatoes - The plant complete with seeds and fiber. Tomato juice - Liquid not concentrated with the seeds and fiber removed. Likely to have gone through a concentration of removing water then having the water added back. Tomato sauce - More concentrated than juice, less water. Still flows freely. Tomato paste - More concentrated still. A jell rather than a liquid. Paste can be concentrated so much it can be squeezed from a tube like toothpaste. Juice, sauce and paste can be converted to each other by adding or removing water. If other ingredients are added that stops being true. I have no idea what this does to trace mineral contents. Make tomato sauce into spagetti sauce by adding garlic and other spices and it can no longer be converted. |
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![]() "Doug Freyburger" > wrote in message ... "brooklyn1" > wrote: > > wrote: > > >I looked on the label of a small can of tomato sauce, and I noticed > > that the main ingredient was tomato paste. So would you be better off > > just buying paste, and adding liquid to it? or would it not make much > > difference. I have been a label reader for forty years, and cannot > > believe that I never noticed this before. Formulas change over time. The USDA dictates what is permitted in tomato paste, last I checked it hasn't changed since 1977. > You obviously have not been reading labels carefully... with just about > every product that contains tomato the tomato is reconstitued tomato > paste/concentrate... all tomato sauce, all tomato juice, all ketchup, even > Heinz. This the only reasonable method for maintaining product > consistancy. I started low carbing back in July 1999. At that time I read the labels of various brands of tomato paste. Contadina was made of tomatos and nothing else. Well, that has not a whit to do with the fact that most all products containing tomatoes employ tomato paste/concentrate. All tomato products contain carbs, in the form of natural sugar. Most brands of tomato paste contain only tomatoes. Some contain ascorbic acid as a preservative, some add salt, none add carbs. And some do contain spices, but even Contadina makes a version that contains spices. http://www.contadina.com/ProductCate...Tomato%20Paste |
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Doug Freyburger wrote:
> Let's see if I have it right with tomato products: > > Tomatoes - The plant complete with seeds and fiber. > > Tomato juice - Liquid not concentrated with the seeds and > fiber removed. Likely to have gone through a concentration > of removing water then having the water added back. > > Tomato sauce - More concentrated than juice, less water. > Still flows freely. > > Tomato paste - More concentrated still. A jell rather than > a liquid. Paste can be concentrated so much it can be > squeezed from a tube like toothpaste. > > Juice, sauce and paste can be converted to each other by > adding or removing water. If other ingredients are added > that stops being true. I have no idea what this does to > trace mineral contents. > > Make tomato sauce into spagetti sauce by adding garlic > and other spices and it can no longer be converted. There's also Tomato puree which is like a thinned paste and a product with great utility value since regular tomato sauce is generally too thin and paste will usually have to be diluted when used. This stuff is probably not available everywhere - at least, I've never heard of it until it popped up on the local Safeway shelve recently. |
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dsi1 > wrote: > Omelet wrote: > > > Leftover tomato paste in a can freezes just fine. There is no reason at > > all to waste it! > > What I do is put the paste in a zip-loc and freeze it flat. Makes it > easy to break off what ya need. I like that idea. -- Peace! Om Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It's about learning to dance in the rain. -- Anon. |
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"brooklyn1" > wrote:
> "Doug Freyburger" > wrote: > > > I started low carbing back in July 1999. *At that time I read the > > labels of various brands of tomato paste. *Contadina was made > > of tomatos and nothing else. > > All tomato products contain carbs, in the form of natural sugar. I'm aware that many people can't tell natural sugar versus added sugar and thus don't understand what it means when "corn syrup" or "high fructose sweetener" or "maltodextrin" appears on a label compared to natural sugars appearing in the nutritional analysis because it grew that way on the plant. Nonetheless the 1999 can labels said what they said and they did list corn syrup in several brands of tomato paste. I restricted myself to Contadina brand until a friend pointe dout to me that the formulas had changed again. > Most brands of *tomato paste contain only tomatoes. Now unlike 1999. The market has pressured companies to improve their formulas IMO. > Some contain ascorbic acid > as a preservative, some add salt, none add carbs. *And some do contain > spices, but even Contadina makes a version that contains spices. > > http://www.contadina.com/ProductCate...Tomato%20Paste |
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>, Doug Freyburger > wrote: > > Let's see if I have it right with tomato products: Bunch of snips within the following list > Tomatoes - > Tomato juice - > > Tomato sauce - > Tomato paste - Don't forget crushed tomatoes and tomato puree. -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://web.me.com/barbschaller - good news 4-6-2009 "What you say about someone else says more about you than it does about the other person." |
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![]() "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message ... > In article > >, > Doug Freyburger > wrote: > >> >> Let's see if I have it right with tomato products: > Bunch of snips within the following list >> Tomatoes - >> Tomato juice - >> >> Tomato sauce - >> Tomato paste - > > Don't forget crushed tomatoes and tomato puree. > > There are some who dilute Heinz ketchup for everything... if you dilute Heinz ketchup with vodka what do you have? A Bloody Hinney! LOL |
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Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
> > Don't forget crushed tomatoes and tomato puree. Expanding the list to ones that can't be converted to each other I'd also add sun dried tomato or dried at home in a dehydrator. Once I someone who a sheet rather like the dehydrated fruit sheets - I didn't ask if it was purchased or home made. |
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![]() "sf" > wrote in message > > Sad note on the home front. Apparently Walgreen's is buying out all > Rite Aide locations here in the City which means less choice for us. > According to a store employee, the transaction was held up by the > Federal Trade Commission for a while to investigate "monopoly", which > it will be here in SF. Walgreen's drove out most of the mom and pop > drugstores, Rite Aide and Thrifty drove out the rest. Rite Aide > bought Thrifty locally and now Walgreen's is gobbling up Rite Aide. I > call no local competition a monopoly, but I guess the FTC bought > another argument. Rite Aid locally bought out the Brooks chain. I wonder if Walgreens is buying all of Rite Aid. They've certainly grabbed a lo to them so far. http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2009/03/...oubled-rivals/ |
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