Aingon Atelia > wrote in news:w56Nl.18797$8_
:

> I've added a small blurb to the bottom of the homepage for
> http://improve-usenet.org. I invite your feedback.

That's perfect. It's all that needs to be said, and no more.

On Fri, 08 May 2009 19:10:51 -0700, Aingon Atelia
> shouted from the highest rooftop:

>> When I die, unless there were suspicion of foul play, I would not want
>> an autopsy. I'd *far* rather those health care resources be used on
>> the living.
>
>I'm a donor, so if they're cutting into me to harvest, it seems they
>oughta look around a little while they're in there.

I'm a donor as well. Although I can't imagine that much of anything
I've got being much use to anyone else ... unless they could
transplant my appetite into someone with anorexia.


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On Thu, 07 May 2009 20:51:26 -0400, N Jill Marsh >
wrote:

>Greg's father didn't need to show symptoms of active TB, but, for
>example, if his TB had initially caused lung damage that would have
>contributed to decreased lung function in the long term that might
>have caused or made worse some other disease, like chronic obstructive
>pulmonary disease, emphysema, congestive heart failure, coronary
>artery disease, etc, then the VA might well have decided to hand out
>some support.

I wasn't thinking about VA benefits. I just wanted to know if he was
symptom free all that time. I know someone who had a late stage of TB
in his teenage years. I know someone who has been symptom free (clear
lungs on an xray) for over 40 years and I was curious.

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Thu, 07 May 2009 18:51:32 -0600, Greg Goss > wrote:

>sf > wrote:
>
>>On May 7, 4:23*pm, Greg Goss > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> For my father, the DND requested a sample of lung tissue and issued an
>>> additional medal and a bigger pension to his widow. *They concluded
>>> that he died in 1992 as a result of shipboard conditions in WW II --
>>> that his death was at least partly related to the TB he'd caught forty
>>> years earlier.
>>
>>Just curious. Did your father appear to be symptom free during those
>>40 years?
>
>Part of the treatment involved collapsing one of his lungs.

Ow. Do you know what stage he was in?

>Because
>he only had one lung, he was told by his doctor to get out of polluted
>Toronto. That's why we moved to semi-rural BC when I was 7.
>
>But for most of his life, he was fitter than I was with two lungs. We
>hiked and camped and built stuff.
>
>He had weakness and shortness of breath for that last year. Damage to
>the remaining lung, or an overall lack of capacity because of only
>using one lung could be the cause. But he was fine from the time I
>became self-aware till that final year.

Sounds like he lived a good life. My next door neighbor had emphysema
and couldn't give up cigarettes even after he lost part of a lung. He
had to be on oxygen to stop smoking and he lived many years in that
state. His wife kept him alive. I'm not sure if it was a good thing
for him although it was for her. She's still devastated by his
passing.

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Fri, 08 May 2009 19:10:51 -0700, Aingon Atelia
> wrote:

>> When I die, unless there were suspicion of foul play, I would not want
>> an autopsy. I'd *far* rather those health care resources be used on
>> the living.
>
>I'm a donor, so if they're cutting into me to harvest, it seems they
>oughta look around a little while they're in there.

Hmmm. Maybe we should write it into the contract!

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

> On Fri, 08 May 2009 19:50:29 -0700, Aingon Atelia
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>>>> The thing that remains of Blinky, aside from our memories, are his 2
>>>>> websites. I know the dues are paid up into 2010, and that a number of
>>>>> people are mirroring them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Walt, do you have access? It sure would be a nice touch if a short message
>>>>> could be placed into both, explaining his passing and that these sites
>>>>> serve as a living tribute to someone who is no longer with us.
>>>>
>>>> I've been considering that. Problem is, I don't want to mess up all of
>>>> his hard CSS work. I'm fairly inept at web design, and he worked so
>>>> hard at making his sites look good.
>>>>
>>>> But to answer your question, yes, I have some FTP access, so I could try
>>>> to add a little something.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't mind some advice on where in the pages to put such a comment.
>>> I'd hate to muck up the look.
>>
>>I've added a small blurb to the bottom of the homepage for
>>http://improve-usenet.org. I invite your feedback.
>
> That looks fine, so I'd add it to other pages too.

Done.

<sigh>



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sf > wrote:

>On Thu, 07 May 2009 18:51:32 -0600, Greg Goss > wrote:
>
>>sf > wrote:
>>
>>>On May 7, 4:23*pm, Greg Goss > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> For my father, the DND requested a sample of lung tissue and issued an
>>>> additional medal and a bigger pension to his widow. *They concluded
>>>> that he died in 1992 as a result of shipboard conditions in WW II --
>>>> that his death was at least partly related to the TB he'd caught forty
>>>> years earlier.
>>>
>>>Just curious. Did your father appear to be symptom free during those
>>>40 years?
>>
>>Part of the treatment involved collapsing one of his lungs.
>
>Ow. Do you know what stage he was in?

No idea. My mother met him as a volunteer "at the San" in the
fifties, which is a long time after "the war", so recovery was very
slow. The treatments for TB weren't very effective in the forties.
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Greg Goss, 1989-01-27

Aingon Atelia > wrote:

>> When I die, unless there were suspicion of foul play, I would not want
>> an autopsy. I'd *far* rather those health care resources be used on
>> the living.
>
>I'm a donor, so if they're cutting into me to harvest, it seems they
>oughta look around a little while they're in there.

It depends on the conditions. Moria's second husband was a crime
scene, so even though he'd signed a donor card, there was nothing
useful to harvest after the police had finished their investigation.

There are a lot of conditions where the body won't be discovered soon
enough for any organs to be recovered. The case that launched this
thread, and your presence among us, was one of these.
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27

Greg Johnson > wrote:

>On Fri, 08 May 2009 19:50:29 -0700, Aingon Atelia
> wrote:
>
>>I've added a small blurb to the bottom of the homepage for
>>http://improve-usenet.org. I invite your feedback.
>
>That looks fine, so I'd add it to other pages too.

In my display, it is to the right of the spam picture. It should be
forced downwards enough to miss the picture and therefore be on the
left margin. I don't know enough HTML to force that and would
probably just insert carriage returns. (web publishers and word
processing people are allowed to shudder at the idea.)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And Blinky's "noGG" logo at the bottom was poorly chosen. Instead of
a checkmark, it should have been a circumscribed red circle with
angled red bar. But it's too late to change that.

And, of course, I can't read that page without renewing my vehement
disapproval of his main point. People often have to use public
computers where they don't have the option of installing a proper
client. In such cases, there is no reason for them to avoid using a
web client. Calling them lamers and lusers never was helpful, even if
he DID have a point. But I realize I can't win this argument now.
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27

Greg Goss wrote, in >
on Sat, 09 May 2009 09:33:23 -0600:

> Greg Johnson > wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 08 May 2009 19:50:29 -0700, Aingon Atelia
> > wrote:
> >
> >>I've added a small blurb to the bottom of the homepage for
> >>http://improve-usenet.org. I invite your feedback.
> >
> >That looks fine, so I'd add it to other pages too.
>
> In my display, it is to the right of the spam picture. It should be
> forced downwards enough to miss the picture and therefore be on the
> left margin. I don't know enough HTML to force that and would
> probably just insert carriage returns. (web publishers and word
> processing people are allowed to shudder at the idea.)

That is exactly where it is on my screen.

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> And Blinky's "noGG" logo at the bottom was poorly chosen. Instead of
> a checkmark, it should have been a circumscribed red circle with
> angled red bar. But it's too late to change that.
>
> And, of course, I can't read that page without renewing my vehement
> disapproval of his main point. People often have to use public
> computers where they don't have the option of installing a proper
> client. In such cases, there is no reason for them to avoid using a
> web client. Calling them lamers and lusers never was helpful, even if
> he DID have a point. But I realize I can't win this argument now.
--
Nick Spalding

On Fri, 08 May 2009 21:16:43 -0700, sf > wrote:

>I wasn't thinking about VA benefits. I just wanted to know if he was
>symptom free all that time. I know someone who had a late stage of TB
>in his teenage years. I know someone who has been symptom free (clear
>lungs on an xray) for over 40 years and I was curious.

Oh, I tend to have VA benefits on the brain at times. I come from an
area where TB was very common until 1960 or so, mostly but not all due
to dairy farming. I know several people who have been completely
healthy and symptom free snce the 1940s or 1950s. If you were in good
health and received decent treatment, it's not that uncommon to remain
healthy.

Working in Northern Ontario, I met dozens of people, some who had
quite advanced TB who were functioning completely normally.

nj"still doesn't want it"m






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On May 9, 10:16*am, Nick Spalding > wrote:
> Greg Goss wrote, in >

> > In my display, it is to the right of the spam picture. *It should be
> > forced downwards enough to miss the picture and therefore be on the
> > left margin. *I don't know enough HTML to force that and would
> > probably just insert carriage returns. *(web publishers and word
> > processing people are allowed to shudder at the idea.)
>
> That is exactly where it is on my screen.

For me, the spam paragraph is properly floated around the spam
picture.

Aingon or his minions have used paragraph markers (langle-p-rangle) to
force some seperation, which is what I would do. Old-fashioned breaks
(langle-b-r-rangle) have been deprecated, so we try to learn the new
habits.

/dps

On Fri, 08 May 2009 19:10:51 -0700, Aingon Atelia wrote:

>> When I die, unless there were suspicion of foul play, I would not want
>> an autopsy. I'd *far* rather those health care resources be used on
>> the living.
>
> I'm a donor, so if they're cutting into me to harvest, it seems they
> oughta look around a little while they're in there.

But will they wheel you around and around a field `til they come unto a
barn?


Lee "or bunged you in a vat?" Ayrton

Snidely > wrote:

>On May 9, 10:16*am, Nick Spalding > wrote:
>> Greg Goss wrote, in >
>
>> > In my display, it is to the right of the spam picture. *It should be
>> > forced downwards enough to miss the picture and therefore be on the
>> > left margin. *I don't know enough HTML to force that and would
>> > probably just insert carriage returns. *(web publishers and word
>> > processing people are allowed to shudder at the idea.)
>>
>> That is exactly where it is on my screen.
>
>For me, the spam paragraph is properly floated around the spam
>picture.

For me, there is a break after the spam paragraph and then Aingon's
paragraph starts. Still floating around the spam. I think it should
be below the spam.

>
>Aingon or his minions have used paragraph markers (langle-p-rangle) to
>force some seperation, which is what I would do. Old-fashioned breaks
>(langle-b-r-rangle) have been deprecated, so we try to learn the new
>habits.


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Greg Goss, 1989-01-27

On May 10, 12:16*am, Greg Goss > wrote:

> For me, there is a break after the spam paragraph and then Aingon's
> paragraph starts. *Still floating around the spam. *I think it should
> be below the spam.

You must have a verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry wide screen. For my 1280ish
screen, the spam paragraph has about 2x the column inches of the
photograph.

/dps

Snidely > wrote:

>On May 10, 12:16*am, Greg Goss > wrote:
>
>> For me, there is a break after the spam paragraph and then Aingon's
>> paragraph starts. *Still floating around the spam. *I think it should
>> be below the spam.
>
>You must have a verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry wide screen. For my 1280ish
>screen, the spam paragraph has about 2x the column inches of the
>photograph.

1900 wide.
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27

On May 10, 8:52*am, Greg Goss > wrote:
> Snidely > wrote:
> >On May 10, 12:16*am, Greg Goss > wrote:
>
> >> For me, there is a break after the spam paragraph and then Aingon's
> >> paragraph starts. *Still floating around the spam. *I think it should
> >> be below the spam.
>
> >You must have a verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry wide screen. *For my 1280ish
> >screen, the spam paragraph has about 2x the column inches of the
> >photograph.
>
> 1900 wide.

Put in a vise -- that will fix the layout.

/dps

> Greg Johnson > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 08 May 2009 19:50:29 -0700, Aingon Atelia
> wrote:
>>
>>>I've added a small blurb to the bottom of the homepage for
>>>http://improve-usenet.org. I invite your feedback.
>>
>>That looks fine, so I'd add it to other pages too.
>
> In my display, it is to the right of the spam picture. It should be
> forced downwards enough to miss the picture and therefore be on the
> left margin. I don't know enough HTML to force that and would
> probably just insert carriage returns. (web publishers and word
> processing people are allowed to shudder at the idea.)

I see what you're saying. However, this is an artifact of the way
Blinky coded the page to adjust to different window sizes. CRs won't
really achieve the desired result.
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> On May 10, 8:52 am, Greg Goss > wrote:
>> Snidely > wrote:
>> >On May 10, 12:16 am, Greg Goss > wrote:
>>
>> >> For me, there is a break after the spam paragraph and then Aingon's
>> >> paragraph starts. Still floating around the spam. I think it should
>> >> be below the spam.
>>
>> >You must have a verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry wide screen. For my 1280ish
>> >screen, the spam paragraph has about 2x the column inches of the
>> >photograph.
>>
>> 1900 wide.
>
> Put in a vise -- that will fix the layout.
>
> /dps

Esplain, por favor.

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On May 10, 11:34*pm, Aingon Atelia > wrote:
> > On May 10, 8:52 am, Greg Goss > wrote:
> >> Snidely > wrote:
> >> >On May 10, 12:16 am, Greg Goss > wrote:
>
> >> >> For me, there is a break after the spam paragraph and then Aingon's
> >> >> paragraph starts. *Still floating around the spam. *I think it should
> >> >> be below the spam.
>
> >> >You must have a verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry wide screen. *For my 1280ish
> >> >screen, the spam paragraph has about 2x the column inches of the
> >> >photograph.
>
> >> 1900 wide.
>
> > Put in a vise -- that will fix the layout.
>
> Esplain, por favor.

Squeeze the display down to the proper size ;-p

/dps

On May 10, 11:32*pm, Aingon Atelia > wrote:

> I see what you're saying. *However, this is an artifact of the way
> Blinky coded the page to adjust to different window sizes. *CRs won't
> really achieve the desired result.

Currently, the page is partitioned into three major divs. Your blurb
is embedded in the center div, but making a fourth div that fits below
the center div would address Greg's issue. A bit drastic, and the
paragraph commands seem to work for most people.

/dps

> On May 10, 11:34 pm, Aingon Atelia > wrote:
>> > On May 10, 8:52 am, Greg Goss > wrote:
>> >> Snidely > wrote:
>> >> >On May 10, 12:16 am, Greg Goss > wrote:
>>
>> >> >> For me, there is a break after the spam paragraph and then Aingon's
>> >> >> paragraph starts. Still floating around the spam. I think it should
>> >> >> be below the spam.
>>
>> >> >You must have a verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry wide screen. For my 1280ish
>> >> >screen, the spam paragraph has about 2x the column inches of the
>> >> >photograph.
>>
>> >> 1900 wide.
>>
>> > Put in a vise -- that will fix the layout.
>>
>> Esplain, por favor.
>
> Squeeze the display down to the proper size ;-p

I thought that might be what you meant, but I was hoping it was some
kind of coding trick.

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> On May 10, 11:32 pm, Aingon Atelia > wrote:
>
>> I see what you're saying. However, this is an artifact of the way
>> Blinky coded the page to adjust to different window sizes. CRs won't
>> really achieve the desired result.
>
> Currently, the page is partitioned into three major divs. Your blurb
> is embedded in the center div, but making a fourth div that fits below
> the center div would address Greg's issue. A bit drastic, and the
> paragraph commands seem to work for most people.
>
> /dps

I tried that, and still had the wrap issue. I moved the blurb to the
top of the right hand column, so now it appears on all pages of the
site. Opinions?

http:/improve-usenet.org

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Looks good.

/dps

On Mon, 11 May 2009 00:42:15 -0700, Aingon Atelia wrote:

>
>
>
>> On May 10, 11:32 pm, Aingon Atelia > wrote:
>>
>>> I see what you're saying. However, this is an artifact of the way
>>> Blinky coded the page to adjust to different window sizes. CRs won't
>>> really achieve the desired result.
>>
>> Currently, the page is partitioned into three major divs. Your blurb
>> is embedded in the center div, but making a fourth div that fits below
>> the center div would address Greg's issue. A bit drastic, and the
>> paragraph commands seem to work for most people.
>>
>> /dps
>
>I tried that, and still had the wrap issue. I moved the blurb to the
>top of the right hand column, so now it appears on all pages of the
>site. Opinions?

You can't please all the people any of the time.

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Aingon Atelia > writes:

>Well, after 3 months the results from Blinky's exam are in. The
>official cause of death on the death certificate is "Atherosclerotic
>Cardiovascular Disease". However, there was no autopsy performed, so
>I'm betting that's just a guess.
....

I've posted a pointer to this article in news.software.readers where
Blinky was a regular who I got to know there. Could you crosspost any
further news pertaining to Blinky to news.software.readers, too?
--
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conformity or vanity, the Real is replaced by a comforting lie.
-- Integritas, Consonantia, Claritas

> Aingon Atelia > writes:
>
>>Well, after 3 months the results from Blinky's exam are in. The
>>official cause of death on the death certificate is "Atherosclerotic
>>Cardiovascular Disease". However, there was no autopsy performed, so
>>I'm betting that's just a guess.
> ...
>
> I've posted a pointer to this article in news.software.readers where
> Blinky was a regular who I got to know there. Could you crosspost any
> further news pertaining to Blinky to news.software.readers, too?

Will do.

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