Chef Badges of Honor?

On some cooking programs I've seen a few hosts that have badges on their
sleeves.

What do they represent? They never zoom in close enough to tell.

I'm guessing it's a cooking school "diploma."

??

Andy
--
Eat first, talk later.

On May 12, 3:57*am, Andy > wrote:
> Chef Badges of Honor?
>
> On some cooking programs I've seen a few hosts that have badges on their
> sleeves.
>
> What do they represent? They never zoom in close enough to tell.
>
> I'm guessing it's a cooking school "diploma."
>
> ??

"The toque (chef's hat) dates back to the 16th century when hats were
common in many trades. Different heights of hats indicate rank within
a kitchen. The symbolism of the 100 folds of the toque are said to
represent the many different ways a chef knows to cook an egg."
source-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef%27s_uniform
>
> Andy
>

--Bryan

On May 12, 4:57 am, Andy > wrote:
> Chef Badges of Honor?
>
> On some cooking programs I've seen a few hosts that have badges on their
> sleeves.
>
> What do they represent? They never zoom in close enough to tell.
>
> I'm guessing it's a cooking school "diploma."
>
> ??
>
> Andy
> --

Dunno the specifics, but professional organizations have badges you
can sew on. IACP (international association of culinary
professionals) is just one of them. I don't think it is a diploma.
Very large numbers of top chefs were taught as apprentices in fine
kitchens rather than schools. From my POV, wearing a school badge
would be like admitting you weren't able to apprentice. There are
very few schools with high recognition names, anyway.

On May 12, 6:50 am, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:

>
> "The toque (chef's hat) dates back to the 16th century when hats were
> common in many trades. Different heights of hats indicate rank within
> a kitchen. The symbolism of the 100 folds of the toque are said to
> represent the many different ways a chef knows to cook an egg."
> source-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef%27s_uniform
>
>
>
> > Andy
>
> --Bryan

It depends even more on what is sold where you work! Maybe in Paris
or NY you can select any style hat, but in most places you're lucky to
find one style in a size that doesn't fall down over your eyes.

On Tue, 12 May 2009 03:57:41 -0500, Andy > wrote:

>Chef Badges of Honor?
>
>On some cooking programs I've seen a few hosts that have badges on their
>sleeves.
>
>What do they represent? They never zoom in close enough to tell.
>
>I'm guessing it's a cooking school "diploma."
>
>??
>
>Andy


Possibly competitions they've been in or the Red Seal Accreditation.

http://www.go2hr.ca/Apprenticeshipbr...1/Default.aspx

Not sure if they get the badge for the Blue Seal (used to be Gold
Seal) Accreditation or not

On Tue, 12 May 2009 06:30:38 -0700 (PDT), Giusi wrote:

> On May 12, 4:57 am, Andy > wrote:
>> Chef Badges of Honor?
>>
>> On some cooking programs I've seen a few hosts that have badges on their
>> sleeves.
>>
>> What do they represent? They never zoom in close enough to tell.
>>
>> I'm guessing it's a cooking school "diploma."
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Andy
>> --
>
> Dunno the specifics, but professional organizations have badges you
> can sew on. IACP (international association of culinary
> professionals) is just one of them. I don't think it is a diploma.
> Very large numbers of top chefs were taught as apprentices in fine
> kitchens rather than schools. From my POV, wearing a school badge
> would be like admitting you weren't able to apprentice. There are
> very few schools with high recognition names, anyway.

when i see 'CIA gradute' (a.k.a. culinary institute of america) it always
confused the shit out of me for a second.

your spooked pal,
blake

Giusi said...

> From my POV, wearing a school badge
> would be like admitting you weren't able to apprentice. There are
> very few schools with high recognition names, anyway.


Giusi,

Good point!

Maybe it's some world recognition award in the culinary arts.

I'm going to email the chef that wore one to ask, after I see his show again.

Best,

Andy
--
Eat first, talk later.

On May 12, 9:32 am, Giusi > wrote:
> On May 12, 6:50 am, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:
>
>
>
> > "The toque (chef's hat) dates back to the 16th century when hats were
> > common in many trades. Different heights of hats indicate rank within
> > a kitchen. The symbolism of the 100 folds of the toque are said to
> > represent the many different ways a chef knows to cook an egg."
> > source-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef%27s_uniform
>
> > > Andy
>
> > --Bryan
>
> It depends even more on what is sold where you work! Maybe in Paris
> or NY you can select any style hat, but in most places you're lucky to
> find one style in a size that doesn't fall down over your eyes.

Drifting a little here, but, when my mother was a nurse, 40-50 years
ago, they wore uniforms, not scrubs or smocks. And always two things
- a pin from their school, and the school's (not their current
hospital's) signature cap. Like a regimental tie - you don't wear it
because it matches your socks, but because you earned it. Always
thought that was kinda cool. Maybe because her's (Grace Hospital, now
part of Wayne State U. in Detroit) had a beautiful filigreed pin and a
classic "nurse style" cap with black and pink ribbon. I'd see other
nurses with a nut-cup or doily pinned to their hair and think "My mom
is so much better".

B

"bulka" > wrote in message
...
On May 12, 9:32 am, Giusi > wrote:
> On May 12, 6:50 am, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:
>
>
>
> > "The toque (chef's hat) dates back to the 16th century when hats were
> > common in many trades. Different heights of hats indicate rank within
> > a kitchen. The symbolism of the 100 folds of the toque are said to
> > represent the many different ways a chef knows to cook an egg."
> > source-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef%27s_uniform
>
> > > Andy
>
> > --Bryan
>
> It depends even more on what is sold where you work! Maybe in Paris
> or NY you can select any style hat, but in most places you're lucky to
> find one style in a size that doesn't fall down over your eyes.

Drifting a little here, but, when my mother was a nurse, 40-50 years
ago, they wore uniforms, not scrubs or smocks. And always two things
- a pin from their school, and the school's (not their current
hospital's) signature cap. Like a regimental tie - you don't wear it
because it matches your socks, but because you earned it. Always
thought that was kinda cool. Maybe because her's (Grace Hospital, now
part of Wayne State U. in Detroit) had a beautiful filigreed pin and a
classic "nurse style" cap with black and pink ribbon. I'd see other
nurses with a nut-cup or doily pinned to their hair and think "My mom
is so much better".

B

I remember those. Each school could be told by the cap. Those with not
such upstanding reps were part of the reason the whole 'cap' went the way of
the wind, since you were judged by your school before you could open your
mouth. Maybe that was a good thing, I dunno.

As far as cooking insignia, FWIW, FBS has the ACF tattooed on his ankle.
-ginny

Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:

> I remember those. Each school could be told by the cap. Those with not
> such upstanding reps were part of the reason the whole 'cap' went the way of
> the wind, since you were judged by your school before you could open your
> mouth. Maybe that was a good thing, I dunno.
>

No, caps went the way of the dodo bird when they figured out that they
were infection control nightmares. They got in the way of procedures,
they were touching dirty hair, hands touched them then other
things..yada yada yada. They were considered filthy messes and people
wised up. Now the next infection control worry is male doctors neck
ties. A bow tie is a good thing in medicine.

On May 12, 6:50 am, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:
> On May 12, 3:57 am, Andy > wrote:
>
> > Chef Badges of Honor?
>
> > On some cooking programs I've seen a few hosts that have badges on their
> > sleeves.
>
> > What do they represent? They never zoom in close enough to tell.
>
> > I'm guessing it's a cooking school "diploma."
>
> > ??
>
> "The toque (chef's hat) dates back to the 16th century when hats were
> common in many trades. Different heights of hats indicate rank within
> a kitchen. The symbolism of the 100 folds of the toque are said to
> represent the many different ways a chef knows to cook an egg."
> source-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef%27s_uniform
>
>
>
> > Andy
>
> --Bryan

I'm trying to remember the name and author. Russian. Maybe Gogol.
Members of the Writers' Union were given fur hats, status matched by
the staus of the fur, from sable on down. The narrator discovers his
was made from a cat.

B

On Thu, 14 May 2009 01:08:49 -0700 (PDT), bulka wrote:

> On May 12, 6:50 am, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:
>> On May 12, 3:57 am, Andy > wrote:
>>
>>> Chef Badges of Honor?
>>
>>> On some cooking programs I've seen a few hosts that have badges on their
>>> sleeves.
>>
>>> What do they represent? They never zoom in close enough to tell.
>>
>>> I'm guessing it's a cooking school "diploma."
>>
>>> ??
>>
>> "The toque (chef's hat) dates back to the 16th century when hats were
>> common in many trades. Different heights of hats indicate rank within
>> a kitchen. The symbolism of the 100 folds of the toque are said to
>> represent the many different ways a chef knows to cook an egg."
>> source-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef%27s_uniform
>>
>>
>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> --Bryan
>
> I'm trying to remember the name and author. Russian. Maybe Gogol.
> Members of the Writers' Union were given fur hats, status matched by
> the staus of the fur, from sable on down. The narrator discovers his
> was made from a cat.
>
> B

sounds like gogol. his 'diary of a madman' is one of the greatest things
ever. 'the nose' is pretty funny, too.

your pal,
blake

Christine Dabney wrote:
>
> On Thu, 14 May 2009 03:35:10 -0400, Goomba >
> wrote:
>
> >No, caps went the way of the dodo bird when they figured out that they
> >were infection control nightmares. They got in the way of procedures,
> >they were touching dirty hair, hands touched them then other
> >things..yada yada yada. They were considered filthy messes and people
> >wised up. Now the next infection control worry is male doctors neck
> >ties. A bow tie is a good thing in medicine.
>
> Plus, they were a general pain the patootie....
>
> I wore mine for my first two jobs...and when I got into pediatrics, I
> never looked back. I haven't worn it since..and that has been over
> 35 years ago.
>
> Mine looked like a sunbonnet, with the brim turned back and the bow
> tied in back. It came from an old diploma school in Philly...and it
> was a pain to clean, iron, and keep clean. It was a pain to put on,
> and keep on..and gave me a headache by the end of the night. And when
> one has been running all night, it didn't look so hot when it was
> worn.
>
> Somewhere, in all my moves, it has disappeared. I would love one just
> for sentimental reasons.... Maybe I could get one from my old
> school.....if they are even made anymore...
>
> I know, we looked forward to the Capping ceremony. It was a big event
> in our nursing lives....and at that time, symbolized a great deal.
> Maybe that is why I still want one, even if I never wear one ever
> again.
>
> Christine


AFAIK the UK nursing schools still give out 'their' caps at graduation.
But they are rarely worn on a daily basis. Have seen them worn at
'official' ceremonies etc but not in the hospitals.

Arri London wrote:

> AFAIK the UK nursing schools still give out 'their' caps at graduation.
> But they are rarely worn on a daily basis. Have seen them worn at
> 'official' ceremonies etc but not in the hospitals.

It is also traditional in the UK to receive ornate sterling belt buckles
to wear with ones uniform dress. I was given one although I don't wear
it, it is gorgeous.

Goomba wrote:
>
> Arri London wrote:
>
> > AFAIK the UK nursing schools still give out 'their' caps at graduation.
> > But they are rarely worn on a daily basis. Have seen them worn at
> > 'official' ceremonies etc but not in the hospitals.
>
> It is also traditional in the UK to receive ornate sterling belt buckles
> to wear with ones uniform dress. I was given one although I don't wear
> it, it is gorgeous.


Yes think that is still done. But tend to see that on the senior sisters
rather than the new graduates. When one has to change uniform several
times a day, silver buckles aren't quite so practical.

Andy said...

> Maybe it's some world recognition award in the culinary arts.
>
> I'm going to email the chef that wore one to ask, after I see his show
> again.


I just watched his cooking show. He's Nick Stellino a famous Italian chef!

The program is called "Nick Stellino Cooking With Friends," and airs on PBS
stations.

I visited his website but through the gallery of images I could still not
make out the emblem that's sewn onto many of his shirt sleeves. He does wear
his "Nick Stellino" logo on the front of his shirt.

The man is ultra-accomplished in the culinary arts, as evidenced by a "small
selection" of videos and print articles he offers. I don't know why I've
never heard of him until now.

I truly enjoy his show. He cooks with the same unhurriedness and clarity as
Lidia Bastianich does.

I scoured his website www.nickstellino.com" but could not find an e-mail of
his so the emblem on his sleeve for now will remain a secret.

Best,

Andy
--
Eat first, talk later.

"Andy" > wrote in message ...

> I just watched his cooking show. He's Nick Stellino a famous Italian chef!
>
> The program is called "Nick Stellino Cooking With Friends," and airs on
> PBS
> stations.
>
> I visited his website but through the gallery of images I could still not
> make out the emblem that's sewn onto many of his shirt sleeves. He does
> wear
> his "Nick Stellino" logo on the front of his shirt.
>
> The man is ultra-accomplished in the culinary arts, as evidenced by a
> "small
> selection" of videos and print articles he offers. I don't know why I've
> never heard of him until now.
>
> I truly enjoy his show. He cooks with the same unhurriedness and clarity
> as
> Lidia Bastianich does.
>
> I scoured his website www.nickstellino.com" but could not find an e-mail
> of
> his so the emblem on his sleeve for now will remain a secret.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

Is this a new series, Andy? He was one about eight or ten years ago and
had a cookbook that even included a CD of Italian music to enjoy during
dinner.