Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!

On Wed, 13 May 2009 16:35:40 -0700 (PDT), Chemo the Clown
> wrote:

>Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
>sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
>It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!

Beer later. Ruins the taste of the doggie!

Me, too!

I only put onions and deli mustard on usually, but did you ever have
one from the street vendors in NYC? One of a kind and oh so good.

Sauerkraut's okay, too.
--
mad

"Chemo the Clown" > wrote in message
...
> Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
> sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
> It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!

Dodger Dogs!

Baseball & beer.

Now that's AMERICAN.

Then a DUI on the way home.

CRAP!

Dimitri

Paso Robles, CA is about to hold their annual Wine festival, Tasting and
general food Orgy.

If you come - get a designated driver - the local constabulary put up DUI
checkpoints.

Dimitri

Chemo the Clown said...

> Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
> sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
> It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!


Alex,

Yep!

"Hotdogs! Hotdogs! Get yer red hot Hotdogs" How can you love baseball and not
love hotdogs?!? <G>

Taught Pop how to use the microwave oven that he was so afraid of, and made
2-minute dinner dogs (1/4 lb. Hebrew National). He totally paid attention! He
woke me up the next morning and declared we were having hot dogs for
breakfast! I insisted he cook them, which he did! Even cooked up the
sauerkraut! )) Was a pleasure of my life, teaching Pop something! Ex-wife
walked in on us from the porch and saw us eating them and shook her finger at
us. Pop protested "What? There's no "do not eat for breakfast warning label
on the package." We had a grand laugh!!! Made her !!!BLUSH!!!

Best,

Andy
--
Eat first, talk later.

Chemo the Clown wrote:
> Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
> sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
> It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!

best meal deal in town, 1/4 lb hot dog (hebrew national) and a drink
at the local costco for $1.49; or 1/4 hot dog (nathan's) at sams club
for the same price.

hjarriet & critters in azusa.

Mark Thorson said...

> Chemo the Clown wrote:
>>
>> Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
>> sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
>> It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!
>
> A single bite of a hot dog may contain meat from
> over 100 animals. As long as the progress of
> Mad Cow Disease in U.S. herds is being concealed
> by those in charge, I would hesitate to eat the meat
> of even 1 animal. Eating 100 animals in every bite
> seems scary to me.


Party Pooper!!!

Chemo the Clown wrote:
>
> Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
> sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
> It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!

A single bite of a hot dog may contain meat from
over 100 animals. As long as the progress of
Mad Cow Disease in U.S. herds is being concealed
by those in charge, I would hesitate to eat the meat
of even 1 animal. Eating 100 animals in every bite
seems scary to me.

On May 13, 6:35*pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
> Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
> sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
> It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!


Try this on a dog with mustard and onions;

You'll need
Hot dogs
Buns
1 pound of cheap hamburger
a quarter cup of finely chopped yellow onions
onions and regular old mustard for the dogs
1 regular size (I think it's about 14 ounces) can of tomato sauce
Seasoning mix, below.

Seasoning mix, mix this beforehand:

A quarter cup dark chili powder
1 Tablespoon ground cumin
2 teaspoons of salt
2 teaspoons of celery salt
1 teaspoon ground black pepper
1 teaspoon ground coriander
1/2 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1/2 teaspoon ground cayenne
1/2 teaspoon ground allspice
1/2 teaspoon ground dried oregano

Toss the hamburger and quarter cup of finely chopped onion into a pot,
break up and brown the hamburger on medium heat. Do not drain. When
the hamburger is done, add the seasoning and stir fairly constantly
for about three minutes and then add the tomato sauce. Fill the sauce
can with water and add to the mix two times. Let it all simmer for
15-20 minutes and serve it on the dogs with regular old mustard. If
you have some left over you can add beans and it makes a pretty good
chili. It freezes well, too.

On May 13, 7:57*pm, Christopher Helms > wrote:
> On May 13, 6:35*pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
>
> > Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
> > sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
> > It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!
>
> Try this on a dog with mustard and onions;
>
> You'll need
> Hot dogs
> Buns
> 1 pound of cheap hamburger
> *a quarter cup of finely chopped yellow onions
> onions and regular old mustard for the dogs
> 1 regular size (I think it's about 14 ounces) can of tomato sauce
> Seasoning mix, below.
>
> Seasoning mix, mix this beforehand:
>
> A quarter cup dark chili powder
> 1 Tablespoon ground cumin
> 2 teaspoons of salt
> 2 teaspoons of celery salt
> 1 teaspoon ground black pepper
> 1 teaspoon ground coriander
> 1/2 teaspoon ground cinnamon
> 1/2 teaspoon ground cayenne
> 1/2 teaspoon ground allspice
> 1/2 teaspoon ground dried oregano
>
> Toss the hamburger and quarter cup of finely chopped onion into a pot,
> break up and brown the hamburger on medium heat. Do not drain. When
> the hamburger is done, add the seasoning and stir fairly constantly
> for about three minutes and then add the tomato sauce. Fill the sauce
> can with water and add to the mix two times. Let it all simmer for
> 15-20 minutes and serve it on the dogs with regular old mustard. If
> you have some left over you can add beans and it makes a pretty good
> chili. It freezes well, too.


That is, serve it on the dogs with regular old mustard and onions.
It's pretty damn good.

On Wed, 13 May 2009 17:57:38 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Helms
> wrote:

>Try this on a dog with mustard and onions;
>
>You'll need
>Hot dogs
>Buns
>1 pound of cheap hamburger
> a quarter cup of finely chopped yellow onions
>onions and regular old mustard for the dogs
>1 regular size (I think it's about 14 ounces) can of tomato sauce
>Seasoning mix, below.
>
>Seasoning mix, mix this beforehand:
>
>A quarter cup dark chili powder
>1 Tablespoon ground cumin
>2 teaspoons of salt
>2 teaspoons of celery salt
>1 teaspoon ground black pepper
>1 teaspoon ground coriander
>1/2 teaspoon ground cinnamon
>1/2 teaspoon ground cayenne
>1/2 teaspoon ground allspice
>1/2 teaspoon ground dried oregano
>
>Toss the hamburger and quarter cup of finely chopped onion into a pot,
>break up and brown the hamburger on medium heat. Do not drain. When
>the hamburger is done, add the seasoning and stir fairly constantly
>for about three minutes and then add the tomato sauce. Fill the sauce
>can with water and add to the mix two times. Let it all simmer for
>15-20 minutes and serve it on the dogs with regular old mustard. If
>you have some left over you can add beans and it makes a pretty good
>chili. It freezes well, too.

I have a recipe for something similar, and we liked it a lot. I'm
going to give yours a try this summer. Thanks for posting!

Carol

--
Change "invalid" to James Bond's agent number to reply.

On May 13, 8:40*pm, Andy > wrote:
> Mark Thorson said...
>
> > Chemo the Clown wrote:
>
> >> Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
> >> sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
> >> It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!
>
> > A single bite of a hot dog may contain meat from
> > over 100 animals. *As long as the progress of
> > Mad Cow Disease in U.S. herds is being concealed
> > by those in charge, I would hesitate to eat the meat
> > of even 1 animal. *Eating 100 animals in every bite
> > seems scary to me.
>
> Party Pooper!!!

Definitely. Thorson seems to think he can live forever if
only he eats the right stuff.

And given what colossal ****ups "those in charge" are,
I doubt they could conceal a used Kleenex.

Cindy Hamilton

"Mack A. Damia" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 13 May 2009 16:35:40 -0700 (PDT), Chemo the Clown
> > wrote:
>
>>Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
>>sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
>>It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!
>
> Beer later. Ruins the taste of the doggie!
>
> Me, too!
>
> I only put onions and deli mustard on usually, but did you ever have
> one from the street vendors in NYC? One of a kind and oh so good.
>
> Sauerkraut's okay, too.
> --
> mad

Almost as good as the dogs you get at a baseball game. I only like the kind
that the walk-around vendor sells. The ones they sell at the food window
really suck. (I've been known to make an exception on dollar-dog night.

Jon

"Chemo the Clown" > wrote in message
...
> Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
> sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
> It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!

Actually, TJ's was demoing store brand organic hot dogs the other day. They
were pretty tasty. Picked up a pack to experiment on the family with.

Jon

Chemo the Clown wrote:
> Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
> sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
> It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!

I love hot dogs. Favorite way is mustard, chopped raw sweet onions,
sweet pickle relish and sauerkraut. I also like a good chili dog with
mustard, onions and chili (no beans!!!!)You can keep the cheese. I don't
think cheese belongs on a hot dog.

One of my must-dos at a baseball game is a hot dog. We are headed to the
DFW area to see the Yankees play the Rangers later this month and you
can bet your bottom dollar I'll be having a hot dog at each game. It's
not major league baseball without one.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Zeppo said...

> Almost as good as the dogs you get at a baseball game. I only like the
> kind that the walk-around vendor sells. The ones they sell at the food
> window really suck. (I've been known to make an exception on dollar-dog
> night.


A couple years ago the stadiums and sports arenas in Philly adopted an all
you can eat policy for the price of admission. Free hot dogs, nachos,
pretzels, sodas and probably some other items. I guess they may have upped
ticket prices $5 or something since they have to be profitable. Also, the
staff didn't have to figure out making change, slowing down the whole
process. Naturally, beer and upscale cuisines are not free.

I remember the first day at a Phillies baseball game, a TV camera panned
along a row of obese fans each with paper trays with maybe a dozen hot dogs
on each lap. It was a disgusting sight!!!

The policy no doubt did away with the walk around vendors.

I've yet to witness it myself.

Best,

Andy
--
Eat first, talk later.

Janet Wilder wrote:
> Chemo the Clown wrote:
>> Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
>> sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
>> It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!
>
> I love hot dogs. Favorite way is mustard, chopped raw sweet onions,
> sweet pickle relish and sauerkraut. I also like a good chili dog with
> mustard, onions and chili (no beans!!!!)You can keep the cheese. I don't
> think cheese belongs on a hot dog.
>
> One of my must-dos at a baseball game is a hot dog. We are headed to the
> DFW area to see the Yankees play the Rangers later this month and you
> can bet your bottom dollar I'll be having a hot dog at each game. It's
> not major league baseball without one.
>

When I go to a baseball game (I usually get to Fenway at least once a
seaon) I always get a hot dog. As much as the chicken fingers or pizza
or sausage calls to me, I get a dog with mustard and relish. And a beer.
Or two.

At home I usually skip the relish in favor of chopped onions and chopped
dill (not sweet) pickles and mustard.

Tracy

On Thu, 14 May 2009 09:27:10 -0500, Andy > wrote:

>Zeppo said...
>
>> Almost as good as the dogs you get at a baseball game. I only like the
>> kind that the walk-around vendor sells. The ones they sell at the food
>> window really suck. (I've been known to make an exception on dollar-dog
>> night.
>
>
>A couple years ago the stadiums and sports arenas in Philly adopted an all
>you can eat policy for the price of admission. Free hot dogs, nachos,
>pretzels, sodas and probably some other items. I guess they may have upped
>ticket prices $5 or something since they have to be profitable. Also, the
>staff didn't have to figure out making change, slowing down the whole
>process. Naturally, beer and upscale cuisines are not free.
>
>I remember the first day at a Phillies baseball game, a TV camera panned
>along a row of obese fans each with paper trays with maybe a dozen hot dogs
>on each lap. It was a disgusting sight!!!
>
>The policy no doubt did away with the walk around vendors.
>
>I've yet to witness it myself.
>
>Best,
>
>Andy

Betcha never went to Connie Mack Stadium!
--
mad

Mack A. Damia said...

> On Thu, 14 May 2009 09:27:10 -0500, Andy > wrote:
>
>>Zeppo said...
>>
>>> Almost as good as the dogs you get at a baseball game. I only like the
>>> kind that the walk-around vendor sells. The ones they sell at the food
>>> window really suck. (I've been known to make an exception on
>>> dollar-dog night.
>>
>>
>>A couple years ago the stadiums and sports arenas in Philly adopted an
>>all you can eat policy for the price of admission. Free hot dogs,
>>nachos, pretzels, sodas and probably some other items. I guess they may
>>have upped ticket prices $5 or something since they have to be
>>profitable. Also, the staff didn't have to figure out making change,
>>slowing down the whole process. Naturally, beer and upscale cuisines are
>>not free.
>>
>>I remember the first day at a Phillies baseball game, a TV camera panned
>>along a row of obese fans each with paper trays with maybe a dozen hot
>>dogs on each lap. It was a disgusting sight!!!
>>
>>The policy no doubt did away with the walk around vendors.
>>
>>I've yet to witness it myself.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Andy
>
> Betcha never went to Connie Mack Stadium!


Nope. I arrived in Philly in 1991. The stadium was an unknown past for me.

I read a little about it in Wikipedia. From a historic photo it looked like
they packed the fans in like a can of sardines!

Andy
--
Eat first, talk later.

On May 13, 5:43*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> Chemo the Clown wrote:
>
> > Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
> > sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
> > It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!
>
> A single bite of a hot dog may contain meat from
> over 100 animals. *As long as the progress of
> Mad Cow Disease in U.S. herds is being concealed
> by those in charge, I would hesitate to eat the meat
> of even 1 animal. *Eating 100 animals in every bite
> seems scary to me.

Well now...you better not go outside because you'll be breathing
exhaust from cars and such. And, if you ever go out to a cafe to eat
you never know if the cook has picked his nose or coughed. You can't
live in fear.

On Wed, 13 May 2009 17:43:27 -0700, Mark Thorson wrote:

> Chemo the Clown wrote:
>>
>> Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
>> sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
>> It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!
>
> A single bite of a hot dog may contain meat from
> over 100 animals. As long as the progress of
> Mad Cow Disease in U.S. herds is being concealed
> by those in charge, I would hesitate to eat the meat
> of even 1 animal. Eating 100 animals in every bite
> seems scary to me.

just about everything seems scary to you.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 14 May 2009 10:37:40 -0500, Andy > wrote:

>Mack A. Damia said...
>
>> On Thu, 14 May 2009 09:27:10 -0500, Andy > wrote:
>>
>>>Zeppo said...
>>>
>>>> Almost as good as the dogs you get at a baseball game. I only like the
>>>> kind that the walk-around vendor sells. The ones they sell at the food
>>>> window really suck. (I've been known to make an exception on
>>>> dollar-dog night.
>>>
>>>
>>>A couple years ago the stadiums and sports arenas in Philly adopted an
>>>all you can eat policy for the price of admission. Free hot dogs,
>>>nachos, pretzels, sodas and probably some other items. I guess they may
>>>have upped ticket prices $5 or something since they have to be
>>>profitable. Also, the staff didn't have to figure out making change,
>>>slowing down the whole process. Naturally, beer and upscale cuisines are
>>>not free.
>>>
>>>I remember the first day at a Phillies baseball game, a TV camera panned
>>>along a row of obese fans each with paper trays with maybe a dozen hot
>>>dogs on each lap. It was a disgusting sight!!!
>>>
>>>The policy no doubt did away with the walk around vendors.
>>>
>>>I've yet to witness it myself.
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>
>>>Andy
>>
>> Betcha never went to Connie Mack Stadium!
>
>
>Nope. I arrived in Philly in 1991. The stadium was an unknown past for me.
>
>I read a little about it in Wikipedia. From a historic photo it looked like
>they packed the fans in like a can of sardines!

South Philly, too. Not a very nice area back then. Probably hasn't
changed.

Went there many times with my dad, and his Lions Club also made trips
there. I think I was about 16 when I went with my dad and the lions
Club, and one of them passed me a beer. Got a bit tipsy for one of
the first times in my life.

Days of the Whiz Kids ( the tail of that era) - Richie Ashburn and
Robin Roberts I recall well.

We left early one game because it was a rout and we wanted to beat the
traffic. My dad's friend had driven us in his Lincoln Continental,
and it was parked like a sardine, too!

My first introduction to the magic of power steering. Took him a
couple of minutes turning centimeter by centimeter, but we got out.
--
mad

"mequeenbe.nospam" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>
> best meal deal in town, 1/4 lb hot dog (hebrew national)

The Costco hot dogs are not HN anymore. They just switched from one Kosher
supplier to their own Kirkland Signature dogs because it could not meet
demand. Not all stores used HN's , mine didn't. The Kirkland ones are better
anyway.

and a drink
> at the local costco for $1.49; or 1/4 hot dog (nathan's) at sams club
> for the same price.
>
> hjarriet & critters in azusa.

"news" > wrote in message ...
>
> "mequeenbe.nospam" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>>
>> best meal deal in town, 1/4 lb hot dog (hebrew national)
>
> The Costco hot dogs are not HN anymore. They just switched from one Kosher
> supplier to their own Kirkland Signature dogs because it could not meet
> demand. Not all stores used HN's , mine didn't. The Kirkland ones are
> better anyway.

Our Costco used Sinai dogs before switching.

On May 14, 11:29*am, "news" > wrote:
> "news" > wrote in ...
>
> > "mequeenbe.nospam" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> >> best meal deal in town, 1/4 lb hot dog (hebrew national)
>
> > The Costco hot dogs are not HN anymore. They just switched from one Kosher
> > supplier to their own Kirkland Signature dogs because it could not meet
> > demand. Not all stores used HN's , mine didn't. The Kirkland ones are
> > better anyway.
>
> Our Costco used Sinai dogs before switching.

The best kosher salami I've ever had is no more. It is sad. No more
Wilno Kosher Salami:

http://www.saralee.com/~/media/1A26D...4DA64F5E2.ashx

--Bryan

Chemo the Clown wrote:
>
> On May 13, 5:43 pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> > Chemo the Clown wrote:
> >
> > > Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
> > > sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
> > > It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!
> >
> > A single bite of a hot dog may contain meat from
> > over 100 animals. As long as the progress of
> > Mad Cow Disease in U.S. herds is being concealed
> > by those in charge, I would hesitate to eat the meat
> > of even 1 animal. Eating 100 animals in every bite
> > seems scary to me.
>
> Well now...you better not go outside because you'll be breathing
> exhaust from cars and such. And, if you ever go out to a cafe to eat
> you never know if the cook has picked his nose or coughed. You can't
> live in fear.

I don't. I live in peace and security knowing
that I don't take foolish risks. I don't smoke.
I don't have sex with prostitutes. And I don't
eat U.S. beef. I will eat beef from Australia,
which is free of Mad Cow Disease.

All we know is that U.S. herds are infected.
The extent of the infection is not known because
USDA prohibits beef producers from testing their
own cattle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creekst...s_Premium_Beef

This policy protects U.S. beef exports at
the expense of the safety of the U.S. consumer.
When you consider how big the epidemic could be,
it could be significant health hazard, but without
testing we just don't know. That's what makes
eating U.S. beef an unreasonable risk at this time.

On May 14, 10:18*am, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> Chemo the Clown wrote:
>
> > On May 13, 5:43 pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> > > Chemo the Clown wrote:
>
> > > > Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
> > > > sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
> > > > It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!
>
> > > A single bite of a hot dog may contain meat from
> > > over 100 animals. *As long as the progress of
> > > Mad Cow Disease in U.S. herds is being concealed
> > > by those in charge, I would hesitate to eat the meat
> > > of even 1 animal. *Eating 100 animals in every bite
> > > seems scary to me.
>
> > Well now...you better not go outside because you'll be breathing
> > exhaust from cars and such. And, if you ever go out to a cafe to eat
> > you never know if the cook has picked his nose or coughed. You can't
> > live in fear.
>
> I don't. *I live in peace and security knowing
> that I don't take foolish risks. *I don't smoke.
> I don't have sex with prostitutes. *And I don't
> eat U.S. beef. *I will eat beef from Australia,
> which is free of Mad Cow Disease.
>
> All we know is that U.S. herds are infected.
> The extent of the infection is not known because
> USDA prohibits beef producers from testing their
> own cattle.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creekst...s_Premium_Beef
>
> This policy protects U.S. beef exports at
> the expense of the safety of the U.S. consumer.
> When you consider how big the epidemic could be,
> it could be significant health hazard, but without
> testing we just don't know. *That's what makes
> eating U.S. beef an unreasonable risk at this time.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Driving is a risk. Flying is a risk. Eating out is a risk. Life is a
risk. You probably have a higher risk of being hit by a train than
getting mad cow.

> On May 13, 5:43 pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>> Chemo the Clown wrote:
>>
>>> Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
>>> sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
>>> It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!

>> A single bite of a hot dog may contain meat from
>> over 100 animals. As long as the progress of
>> Mad Cow Disease in U.S. herds is being concealed
>> by those in charge, I would hesitate to eat the meat
>> of even 1 animal. Eating 100 animals in every bite
>> seems scary to me.
>


Everybody dies of something and everyone chooses how to live.
Living in a bubble doesn't appeal to me.

gloria p

In article >,
Puester > wrote:

> > On May 13, 5:43 pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> >> Chemo the Clown wrote:
> >>
> >>> Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
> >>> sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
> >>> It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!
>
> >> A single bite of a hot dog may contain meat from
> >> over 100 animals. As long as the progress of
> >> Mad Cow Disease in U.S. herds is being concealed
> >> by those in charge, I would hesitate to eat the meat
> >> of even 1 animal. Eating 100 animals in every bite
> >> seems scary to me.
> >
>
>
> Everybody dies of something and everyone chooses how to live.
> Living in a bubble doesn't appeal to me.
>
> gloria p

That's the best thing I've seen stated in this whole thread so far.

Well done Gloria! <g>
--
Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.

Chemo the Clown wrote:
>
> On May 14, 10:18 am, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> > Chemo the Clown wrote:
> >
> > > On May 13, 5:43 pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> > > > Chemo the Clown wrote:
> >
> > > > > Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
> > > > > sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
> > > > > It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!
> >
> > > > A single bite of a hot dog may contain meat from
> > > > over 100 animals. As long as the progress of
> > > > Mad Cow Disease in U.S. herds is being concealed
> > > > by those in charge, I would hesitate to eat the meat
> > > > of even 1 animal. Eating 100 animals in every bite
> > > > seems scary to me.
> >
> > > Well now...you better not go outside because you'll be breathing
> > > exhaust from cars and such. And, if you ever go out to a cafe to eat
> > > you never know if the cook has picked his nose or coughed. You can't
> > > live in fear.
> >
> > I don't. I live in peace and security knowing
> > that I don't take foolish risks. I don't smoke.
> > I don't have sex with prostitutes. And I don't
> > eat U.S. beef. I will eat beef from Australia,
> > which is free of Mad Cow Disease.
> >
> > All we know is that U.S. herds are infected.
> > The extent of the infection is not known because
> > USDA prohibits beef producers from testing their
> > own cattle.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creekst...s_Premium_Beef
> >
> > This policy protects U.S. beef exports at
> > the expense of the safety of the U.S. consumer.
> > When you consider how big the epidemic could be,
> > it could be significant health hazard, but without
> > testing we just don't know. That's what makes
> > eating U.S. beef an unreasonable risk at this time.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Driving is a risk. Flying is a risk. Eating out is a risk. Life is a
> risk. You probably have a higher risk of being hit by a train than
> getting mad cow.

You don't know that because not enough testing
is being done to know the true scale of the
Mad Cow Disease problem, and USDA blocks any
attempt to find out. The behavior of USDA
in this matter suggests that the risk is far
higher than has been admitted up to the present.
If the risk were really as low as you think,
USDA would welcome testing because it would
exonerate the U.S. beef industry.

As long as USDA protects the beef industry
against the interests of consumers, it is not
reasonable to assume the risk is low.

>>I read a little about it in Wikipedia. From a historic photo it looked
>>like
>>they packed the fans in like a can of sardines!
>
> South Philly, too. Not a very nice area back then. Probably hasn't
> changed.
>
> Went there many times with my dad, and his Lions Club also made trips
> there. I think I was about 16 when I went with my dad and the lions
> Club, and one of them passed me a beer. Got a bit tipsy for one of
> the first times in my life.
>
> Days of the Whiz Kids ( the tail of that era) - Richie Ashburn and
> Robin Roberts I recall well.
>
> We left early one game because it was a rout and we wanted to beat the
> traffic. My dad's friend had driven us in his Lincoln Continental,
> and it was parked like a sardine, too!
>
> My first introduction to the magic of power steering. Took him a
> couple of minutes turning centimeter by centimeter, but we got out.
> --
> mad

Actually, it was North Philly. 22nd & Lehigh. I was taken to a few games a
year when I was a kid.

I attended the last game there in '70 and witnessed fans ripping seats out
of the ground to take as souvenirs. As we were leaving the stadium a row of
4 seats tossed over the wall above hit the ground beside me with a bang.
Scared the bejeezez out of me. Had it hit me I'd have been split in two.

They looked great in my apartment for many years.

Jon
Jon

On Thu, 14 May 2009 13:52:28 -0400, "Zeppo" > wrote:

>>>I read a little about it in Wikipedia. From a historic photo it looked
>>>like
>>>they packed the fans in like a can of sardines!
>>
>> South Philly, too. Not a very nice area back then. Probably hasn't
>> changed.
>>
>> Went there many times with my dad, and his Lions Club also made trips
>> there. I think I was about 16 when I went with my dad and the lions
>> Club, and one of them passed me a beer. Got a bit tipsy for one of
>> the first times in my life.
>>
>> Days of the Whiz Kids ( the tail of that era) - Richie Ashburn and
>> Robin Roberts I recall well.
>>
>> We left early one game because it was a rout and we wanted to beat the
>> traffic. My dad's friend had driven us in his Lincoln Continental,
>> and it was parked like a sardine, too!
>>
>> My first introduction to the magic of power steering. Took him a
>> couple of minutes turning centimeter by centimeter, but we got out.
>> --
>> mad
>
>Actually, it was North Philly. 22nd & Lehigh. I was taken to a few games a
>year when I was a kid.
>
>I attended the last game there in '70 and witnessed fans ripping seats out
>of the ground to take as souvenirs. As we were leaving the stadium a row of
>4 seats tossed over the wall above hit the ground beside me with a bang.
>Scared the bejeezez out of me. Had it hit me I'd have been split in two.
>
>They looked great in my apartment for many years.
>
>Jon
>Jon

I had to check that because I would have bet my buns it was South
Philly. I think I remember a seedy neighborhood, but it's been forty
years!

Shibe Park, originally.
--
mad

On 2009-05-14, Mack A Damia > wrote:
> On Thu, 14 May 2009 10:37:40 -0500, Andy > wrote:

> couple of min......

too much crap.

You wanna be read, trim the crap

nb

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>
> Isn't it just the spinal cord that is affected in cattle? That's my
> understanding. I'd think that most cuts would be completely safe to
> consume.

No, certain parts of the intestines are also rich
in prions in infected animals. And of course the
entire central nervous system is involved, not just
the spinal cord.

And people don't normally eat spinal cord. If that
was the only way to get infected, you wouldn't have
had hundreds of deaths in England from eating infected
beef.

Chemo the Clown wrote:
>
> I do not believe the beef industry would put themselves in a position
> of ultimately failing and countless lawsuits. If Mad Cow was really as

No lawsuits. You can't prove your vCJD was caused
by eating the beef from my farm, so you're out of luck.
The disease takes years to develop, so you don't have
any records of what beef you ate that caused your disease.

Besides which, my farm was following all government
regulations. We had no way of knowing our beef was
infected. In fact, the USDA prohibited us from doing
any tests to find out. We are blameless. So you are
again out of luck.

> bad as you seem to think, then why doesn't the news media know more
> about it. Now, if you'll excuse me...I'm going to go get me a burger!

It's because the news media needs to get their information
from somewhere, and USDA is making sure that information
is not available by making it illegal to collect it.

On Thu, 14 May 2009 20:01:17 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2009-05-14, Mack A Damia > wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 May 2009 10:37:40 -0500, Andy > wrote:
>
>> couple of min......
>
>too much crap.
>
>You wanna be read, trim the crap

Not worth the read. Best to go elsewhere.
--
mad

mequeenbe.nospam said...

>
>
> Chemo the Clown wrote:
>> Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
>> sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
>> It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!
>
> best meal deal in town, 1/4 lb hot dog (hebrew national) and a drink
> at the local costco for $1.49; or 1/4 hot dog (nathan's) at sams club
> for the same price.
>
> hjarriet & critters in azusa.


I was reviewing my wholesale vs. supermarket hot dog offerings. The
supermarket has more brands while my BJs club has imho, the best of the
brands.

BJ Wholesale sells HN. natural casing Nathan's, their "Best" store brand and
Sabrett's (the famous NYC corner dogs).

I carelessly made a mistake with the Sabrett's because when I got home and
divided up the package the label called them sausages! I just saw the famous
logo and they LOOKED just like hot dogs so I fell for them. While not bad,
they were a little too smokey flavored than what I expected.

They also had Ball Park and Oscar Meyer dogs but since my youth I never liked
the skinless kinds, described on TV as having a "spam-like" consistency.

Andy
--
Eat first, talk later.

Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Thu, 14 May 2009 09:27:10 -0500, Andy > wrote:
>
>> Zeppo said...
>>
>>> Almost as good as the dogs you get at a baseball game. I only like the
>>> kind that the walk-around vendor sells. The ones they sell at the food
>>> window really suck. (I've been known to make an exception on dollar-dog
>>> night.
>>
>> A couple years ago the stadiums and sports arenas in Philly adopted an all
>> you can eat policy for the price of admission. Free hot dogs, nachos,
>> pretzels, sodas and probably some other items. I guess they may have upped
>> ticket prices $5 or something since they have to be profitable. Also, the
>> staff didn't have to figure out making change, slowing down the whole
>> process. Naturally, beer and upscale cuisines are not free.
>>
>> I remember the first day at a Phillies baseball game, a TV camera panned
>> along a row of obese fans each with paper trays with maybe a dozen hot dogs
>> on each lap. It was a disgusting sight!!!
>>
>> The policy no doubt did away with the walk around vendors.
>>
>> I've yet to witness it myself.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andy
>
> Betcha never went to Connie Mack Stadium!

Betcha I did! I went there with first husband and oldest child in my
tummy to see the Mets play the Phillies. It was the last year of the
stadium. A foul ball came near me and there were ushers all over me
getting me to sign waivers.

There was a marching band before the game and baby-in-tummy kicked to
the thump of the drums. I am convinced that is why she did 4 years of
marching band in high school, though she played clarinet, not drums.

Thanks for the memories.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Puester wrote:
>
>> On May 13, 5:43 pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>>> Chemo the Clown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
>>>> sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
>>>> It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!
>
>>> A single bite of a hot dog may contain meat from
>>> over 100 animals. As long as the progress of
>>> Mad Cow Disease in U.S. herds is being concealed
>>> by those in charge, I would hesitate to eat the meat
>>> of even 1 animal. Eating 100 animals in every bite
>>> seems scary to me.
>>
>
>
> Everybody dies of something and everyone chooses how to live.
> Living in a bubble doesn't appeal to me.
>
> gloria p

You are ever so right, Gloria.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Andy wrote:
> mequeenbe.nospam said...
>
>>
>> Chemo the Clown wrote:
>>> Man...I love hot dogs. Grilled or steamed. Add some chili or
>>> sauerkraut...onions, mustard, bbq sauce, hot sauce...I don't care.
>>> It's all good!! Maybe a cold beer too!
>> best meal deal in town, 1/4 lb hot dog (hebrew national) and a drink
>> at the local costco for $1.49; or 1/4 hot dog (nathan's) at sams club
>> for the same price.
>>
>> hjarriet & critters in azusa.
>
>
> I was reviewing my wholesale vs. supermarket hot dog offerings. The
> supermarket has more brands while my BJs club has imho, the best of the
> brands.
>
> BJ Wholesale sells HN. natural casing Nathan's, their "Best" store brand and
> Sabrett's (the famous NYC corner dogs).
>
> I carelessly made a mistake with the Sabrett's because when I got home and
> divided up the package the label called them sausages! I just saw the famous
> logo and they LOOKED just like hot dogs so I fell for them. While not bad,
> they were a little too smokey flavored than what I expected.
>
> They also had Ball Park and Oscar Meyer dogs but since my youth I never liked
> the skinless kinds, described on TV as having a "spam-like" consistency.

What I really miss is the Hebrew National ones that came on a string
with the blue and yellow strings between each hot dog. I have not seen
these in a long, long time, but they were the best ever. Crispy skins
that you had to really bite into. Juicy and garlicy in the middle. OMG,
I'm drooling on my keyboard!!!

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Janet Wilder said...

> Mack A. Damia wrote:

>> Betcha never went to Connie Mack Stadium!
>
> Betcha I did! I went there with first husband and oldest child in my
> tummy to see the Mets play the Phillies. It was the last year of the
> stadium. A foul ball came near me and there were ushers all over me
> getting me to sign waivers.
>
> There was a marching band before the game and baby-in-tummy kicked to
> the thump of the drums. I am convinced that is why she did 4 years of
> marching band in high school, though she played clarinet, not drums.
>
> Thanks for the memories.


Janet,

Great!

You told your DD that story I hope?

So she was no Gene Krupa but maybe one heck of a Benny Goodman?

Thanks!

Andy
--
Eat first, talk later.