On 2009-05-20, Me > wrote:
> There was a microbrew I bought once called "Dead Cat Ale". Obviously, it
> was an infected batch (it had that metallic taste). Haven't seen it in
> years.

I remember that one.

During the early years of the micro-brewery boom, before I learned to enjoy
real beer, the field was full of fly-by-nighters. Most of them were weeded
out during the 90s with over half the early micro-breweries failing. During
the heyday, stupid brand names were rampant, all trying to catch the buyer's
eye. I used to put Stone Brewing (Arrogant *******, Ruination ales) in that
catagory, with their silly names and video game gargoyles, etc, but it turns
out they are one of the finest breweries on the West Coast. Who knew?

nb

Bob Terwilliger wrote:

> 1. EKU -- a Czech beer so vile I couldn't down more than about two
> ounces.

If it's EKU28 it's really undrinkable, I agree on EKU as my first one, too

2. Ceres - can't understand why it sells so much, it's vile

3. Peroni - I wish you all they'll never export it
--
Vilco
Mai guardare Trailer park Boys senza
qualcosa da bere a portata di mano

On May 19, 8:40*pm, notbob > wrote:

> *Bud is crap beer, no denying,

Regular "Bud" is by no means the worst A-B product. Bud Light,
Hurricane, and that St. Louis favorite, Busch, are all much worse.
They decided to put out a premium line of Michelobs with all barley
(no rice!), but the pale ale is so poorly hopped that it still tastes
like cheap beer. These folks truly could "F up a wet dream."

I do like a lot of their commercials though. The "Real men of genius"
ones are especially funny, since they are making fun of the folks who
form their most loyal customer base. I mean, you'd have to be a
"genius" to pay what they charge for Bud Light.

I also like their horses.
>
> nb

--Bryan

On May 20, 5:56*am, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:
> On May 19, 8:40*pm, notbob > wrote:
>
> > **Bud is crap beer, no denying,
>
> Regular "Bud" is by no means the worst A-B product. *Bud Light,
> Hurricane, and that St. Louis favorite, Busch, are all much worse.
> They decided to put out a premium line of Michelobs with all barley
> (no rice!), but the pale ale is so poorly hopped that it still tastes
> like cheap beer. *These folks truly could "F up a wet dream."

Oh, AB-INBEV (now) *can* make good beers. they just don't because they
are marketing to mass appeal, and most people have incredibly bad
taste in beers. IOW most people don't really like beer, so AB-INBEV
makes beer-flavored WATER! (And recently, a host of other atrocities!)
because that's what sells.

Ever have Bare Knuckle Stout? I first had some at the AB table at the
Heritage Festival (or whatever that overpriced thing is they have
annually at Forest Park) and I was shocked that it was made by AB. A
beer I'd actually pay money for! Pretty yummy! Of course it's not up
there with many really great beers, but it's a far cry from AB-INBEV's
Bud Light and all that other water beer crap they promulgate on the
unwashed masses!

John Kuthe...

Mark Thorson wrote:
> notbob wrote:
>> On 2009-05-19, George Shirley > wrote:
>>> What's the worse beer you've ever run through your kidneys?
>> 1. Corona
>> 2. Corona
>> 3. Corona
>> 4. Sol (a bad Corona knockoff)
>
> I was trying to think of that Mexican beer
> that looks like urine (the kind of urine you
> make after drinking beer). Thanks for reminding
> me. I second the nomination.
>
> If I were their marketing guy, I'd try to get
> them to stop using clear bottles.

The only Mexican beer I ever drank and enjoyed was Tecate.

I know, it's only Rolling Rock and I like it!

Andy
Like it, like it, yes I do!

zxcvbob wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
>> What's the worse beer you've ever run through your kidneys?
>>
>> I'll start with a short list from my youth.
>>
>> 1. Pearl
>> 2. Narragansett
>> 3. Griesedieck
>> 4. National Bohemian
>
>
> Say, did there used to be a Fabacher beer? Or was that just a marketing
> ploy (with Andrew Fabacher dressed up like Andrew Jackson) made up by
> Jax beer?
>
> "Fabacher"
> "Jax"
> "Fabacher"
> "Jax"
> "Jax"
> "Fabacher"
>
> (just like Buggs and Daffy doing the rabbit season, duck season bit)
>
> I didn't realize I still had those brain cells.
>
> Bob
Yes, there was a FAbacher beer for awhile. Just Jax in another can.

On May 20, 7:44*am, George Shirley > wrote:
> Mark Thorson wrote:
> > notbob wrote:
> >> On 2009-05-19, George Shirley > wrote:
> >>> What's the worse beer you've ever run through your kidneys?
> >> 1. Corona
> >> 2. Corona
> >> 3. Corona
> >> 4. Sol (a bad Corona knockoff)
>
> > I was trying to think of that Mexican beer
> > that looks like urine (the kind of urine you
> > make after drinking beer). *Thanks for reminding
> > me. *I second the nomination.
>
> > If I were their marketing guy, I'd try to get
> > them to stop using clear bottles.
>
> The only Mexican beer I ever drank and enjoyed was Tecate.

Negra Modelo is good. You can have my share of the Tecate.

--Bryan

George Shirley said...

>>> What's the worse beer you've ever run through your kidneys?


That would be Genesee cream ale, brewed from the flow of the Genesee river,
Rochester Yew Nork (subsidiary of Kodak).

That's how they picked the color "neon" green!

Best,

Andy
--
Eat first, talk later.

On May 20, 7:46*am, Andy > wrote:
> I know, it's only Rolling Rock and I like it!

A good match. A weak Stones song and a weak, seriously under-hopped
beer.
Like a Miller High Life Light with a shot of Heineken, it's PA's
"Busch."
>
> Andy

--Bryan

On May 19, 5:47*pm, George Shirley > wrote:
> What's the worse beer you've ever run through your kidneys?

Homebrew. I used to belong to the Society for Creative Anachronism,
and I've tasted enough vile homebrew to drown a Clydesdale.

Cindy Hamilton

Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
> On May 20, 7:44 am, George Shirley > wrote:
>> Mark Thorson wrote:
>>> notbob wrote:
>>>> On 2009-05-19, George Shirley > wrote:
>>>>> What's the worse beer you've ever run through your kidneys?
>>>> 1. Corona
>>>> 2. Corona
>>>> 3. Corona
>>>> 4. Sol (a bad Corona knockoff)
>>> I was trying to think of that Mexican beer
>>> that looks like urine (the kind of urine you
>>> make after drinking beer). Thanks for reminding
>>> me. I second the nomination.
>>> If I were their marketing guy, I'd try to get
>>> them to stop using clear bottles.
>> The only Mexican beer I ever drank and enjoyed was Tecate.
>
> Negra Modelo is good. You can have my share of the Tecate.
>
> --Bryan
not wishing to upset our north American cousins.
But yet to find ONE American beer that tastes half decent .

Stella , Boags and Tiger with German Fosters not too bad
tend to tickle the pallet this end .
Hahn not too bad and GREAT Ads also

On May 20, 8:47*am, Cindy Hamilton >
wrote:
> On May 19, 5:47*pm, George Shirley > wrote:
>
> > What's the worse beer you've ever run through your kidneys?
>
> Homebrew. *I used to belong to the Society for Creative Anachronism,
> and I've tasted enough vile homebrew to drown a Clydesdale.

My nephew's wedding, from which the piggy pix were derived, was so
themed. That's why they had the whole pig. The "mead" was wheat
beer.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

--Bryan

Bobo Bonobo® said...

> On May 20, 7:46*am, Andy > wrote:
>> I know, it's only Rolling Rock and I like it!
>
> A good match. A weak Stones song and a weak, seriously under-hopped
> beer.
> Like a Miller High Life Light with a shot of Heineken, it's PA's
> "Busch."
>>
>> Andy
>
> --Bryan


Bryan,

Heh heh heh heh heh.

I'm not qualified to depaint the point.

Have a Bud Light instead.

Best,

Andy
--
And on the 7th day God said "let there was beer." And it was so. Then on
the 8th day God said "let there be breakfast." And it was so. And so began
biscuits and gravy. And life was good. And on the 9th day God created
gluttony, which for the most part the world ignored. Then on the 10th day
God created diners. And life multiplied. Then, on the 11th day, God created
sins and heaven and hell. And on the 12th day God said "Let there be kegs!"

And it was so.

On May 20, 8:52*am, "phil..c" > wrote:
> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
> > On May 20, 7:44 am, George Shirley > wrote:
> >> Mark Thorson wrote:
> >>> notbob wrote:
> >>>> On 2009-05-19, George Shirley > wrote:
> >>>>> What's the worse beer you've ever run through your kidneys?
> >>>> 1. Corona
> >>>> 2. Corona
> >>>> 3. Corona
> >>>> 4. Sol (a bad Corona knockoff)
> >>> I was trying to think of that Mexican beer
> >>> that looks like urine (the kind of urine you
> >>> make after drinking beer). *Thanks for reminding
> >>> me. *I second the nomination.
> >>> If I were their marketing guy, I'd try to get
> >>> them to stop using clear bottles.
> >> The only Mexican beer I ever drank and enjoyed was Tecate.
>
> > Negra Modelo is good. *You can have my share of the Tecate.
>
> > --Bryan
>
> not wishing to upset our north American cousins.
> But yet to find ONE American beer that tastes half decent *.
>
> Stella , Boags *and Tiger with German Fosters *not too bad
> tend to tickle the pallet this end .
> Hahn not too bad and GREAT Ads *also

You don't like APAs? Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is available basically
anywhere in the USA. Have to tried it? Mmmmm. Cascade hops.
http://www.brewersconnection.com/pop...le/cascade.htm
The Bell's products are spectacular, better than any beers I've ever
tasted.
http://www.bellsbeer.com/

--Bryan

On Tue, 19 May 2009 16:47:55 -0500, George Shirley
> wrote:

>What's the worse beer you've ever run through your kidneys?
>
>I'll start with a short list from my youth.
>
>1. Pearl
>2. Narragansett
>3. Griesedieck
>4. National Bohemian

I used to say that there was no such thing as a bad beer, just that
some were better than others.
Then, back about '93 I had a beer from a brewery in Kiev that was
actually called "Ruski" and I had to change my opinion.
If Ruski was the best they had to offer, it's no wonder they drink a
lot of vodka.
I have to temper that a bit since we picked up the beer on a trip
across the border to a store in Rochester, NY, called Beers Of The
World. Some of their stock was not the freshest.
nosdrovia!

Ross.

On 2009-05-20, phil..c > wrote:

> not wishing to upset our north American cousins.
> But yet to find ONE American beer that tastes half decent .
>
> Stella......

You gotta be kidding. Stella is the Bud lite of Belgium. Probably the only
beer from Belgium I won't drink. If you haven't found one decent beer from
N America, you're not looking very hard. Both Canada and US make some
killer Belgian-style beers. Now, if you mean "American-style" beers, I'll
hafta agree with you, although micro-brewers are beginning to create new
American styles. Double IPAs and barley wines come to mind and are quite
popular, here. There's supposedly a style called American Lager, a
throw-back to the pre-canoe Prohibition days, but I've yet to run across an
example.

It used to be that the mega-swill brewers dominated the market and got
80-90% of shelf space, the remaining left to mega-swill imports. Now,
depending on where you live, those days are long gone. Go to any "good"
market or liquor store and canoe beers are down to 20% shelf space. That's
an astonishing turn around in the last 15 yrs.

nb

On Tue, 19 May 2009 21:16:22 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Tue, 19 May 2009 22:07:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> Iron City
>
> I'll second Iron City. I drank 297 times more IC before I was 18
> than after was 21.
>
> -sw

irons are pretty bad. but i like rolling rock, so what do i know?

when i was at school in new york in the '70s, the a & p had a store brand
called, straightforwardly enough, a & p lager. as i recall it was cheaper
than the store brand soda. grim stuff.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 20 May 2009 06:47:41 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On May 19, 5:47*pm, George Shirley > wrote:
>> What's the worse beer you've ever run through your kidneys?
>
> Homebrew. I used to belong to the Society for Creative Anachronism,
> and I've tasted enough vile homebrew to drown a Clydesdale.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

but is home-made mead any better?

your pal,
blake

On 2009-05-20, > wrote:

> Then, back about '93 I had a beer from a brewery in Kiev that was
> actually called "Ruski" and I had to change my opinion.
> If Ruski was the best they had to offer, it's no wonder they drink a
> lot of vodka.

There's another line of beers from Russia:

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/401/4694

.....that I've been seeing a lot of. It's pretty bad. In fact, I've yet to
taste any beer from Russia worth a damn. Even China and Africa has better
beer.

nb

On May 20, 10:09*am, notbob > wrote:
> On 2009-05-20, phil..c > wrote:
>
> > not wishing to upset our north American cousins.
> > But yet to find ONE American beer that tastes half decent *.
>
> > Stella......
>
> You gotta be kidding. *Stella is the Bud lite of Belgium. *Probably the only
> beer from Belgium I won't drink. *If you haven't found one decent beer from
> N America, you're not looking very hard. *Both Canada and US make some
> killer Belgian-style beers. *Now, if you mean "American-style" beers, I'll
> hafta agree with you, although micro-brewers are beginning to create new
> American styles. *Double IPAs and barley wines come to mind and are quite
> popular, here. *There's supposedly a style called American Lager, a
> throw-back to the pre-canoe Prohibition days, but I've yet to run across an
> example. *

I agree about Stella.
Am I to understand that you don't like the Cascade hopped American
Pale Ales?
>
> nb

--Bryan

On 2009-05-20, blake murphy > wrote:
> On Wed, 20 May 2009 06:47:41 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On May 19, 5:47*pm, George Shirley > wrote:
>>> What's the worse beer you've ever run through your kidneys?
>>
>> Homebrew. I used to belong to the Society for Creative Anachronism,
>> and I've tasted enough vile homebrew to drown a Clydesdale.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> but is home-made mead any better?

Oh Hell yes!!

My brewing mentor also does mead, some of it 5 yrs old. Having tried a
commercial mead a couple decades back, I thought the stuff was pretty much
crap. Then, I tasted my mentor's homebrewed meads and his black/raspberry
melomels (fruit added mead). To die for! Like home brewed beer, and as we
all know, just like food, the key is the ingredients. You buy those "kits"
with the packets of crap and you're gonna get crap. Use the best honey,
grains, yeast, water, etc, and you get great beer/mead.

I know that homebrewing was a pretty dismal proposition 30-40 yrs ago, but
now it's serious stuff. The whole renaissance in US beers is due to the
grass roots microbrewery industry which grew, almost to a brand, from home
brewing. I've been to more than one microbrewery that has the same 5 gal
homebrewing system, which anyone can buy, to develop a new beer offering
before they ramp up to brew it commercially.

If you can bake a better quiche than Nancy's ....I sure as Hell can!.... you
can brew a better beer than Bud.

nb

"Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message
...
On May 20, 7:44 am, George Shirley > wrote:
> Mark Thorson wrote:
> > notbob wrote:
> >> On 2009-05-19, George Shirley > wrote:
> >>> What's the worse beer you've ever run through your kidneys?
> >> 1. Corona
> >> 2. Corona
> >> 3. Corona
> >> 4. Sol (a bad Corona knockoff)
>
> > I was trying to think of that Mexican beer
> > that looks like urine (the kind of urine you
> > make after drinking beer). Thanks for reminding
> > me. I second the nomination.
>
> > If I were their marketing guy, I'd try to get
> > them to stop using clear bottles.
>
> The only Mexican beer I ever drank and enjoyed was Tecate.

> Negra Modelo is good. <snip Tecate>

I'll second this one. Negra Modelo is the only Mexican beer I truly like.
Dos XX is tolerable; Tecate barely tolerable. Bohemia is like drinking
perfume (to me - KayH loves the stuff).

Beers I love: Singha, Bitburger Pils, Anchor Steam, Guinness, Bachelor
Bitter (microbrew from Bend, Oregon). Oh there are others too numerous to
list, but these are the ones that immediately come to mind.

TammyM

"Me" > wrote in message
...
> There was a microbrew I bought once called "Dead Cat Ale". Obviously, it
> was an infected batch (it had that metallic taste). Haven't seen it in
> years.

Might that have been from the Dead Cat Alley brewpub in Woodland, CA? Or,
rather, the late Dead Cat Alley brewpub. That cat croaked nearly 20 years
ago.

TammyM

On 2009-05-20, TammyM > wrote:

> Beers I love: Singha, Bitburger Pils, Anchor Steam, Guinness, Bachelor
> Bitter (microbrew from Bend, Oregon).

Now, here's a lady who knows her beers.

I'll look out for that BB/OR beer.

nb

George Shirley wrote:
> Then there was Schlitz, Jax (brewed with Mississippi River water in
> NOLA, then there was Dixie and Colt .45. Hamm's was popular around SE
> Texas when I was much younger but I think that was the cute TV ads. I
> think the same bear is now advertising Charmin toilet tissue.

By the time I was old enough to drink, Hamm's no longer existed, but I
do remember their commercials from when I was a kid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAM_Dz5Yx0k

We ate at a brewpub in Seattle about 10 days ago and I sampled 6
different beers. I am not a beer drinker, so I chose the root beer
instead.


Becca

notbob wrote:
> On 2009-05-20, blake murphy > wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 May 2009 06:47:41 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> On May 19, 5:47 pm, George Shirley > wrote:
>>>> What's the worse beer you've ever run through your kidneys?
>>> Homebrew. I used to belong to the Society for Creative Anachronism,
>>> and I've tasted enough vile homebrew to drown a Clydesdale.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>> but is home-made mead any better?
>
> Oh Hell yes!!
>
> My brewing mentor also does mead, some of it 5 yrs old. Having tried a
> commercial mead a couple decades back, I thought the stuff was pretty much
> crap. Then, I tasted my mentor's homebrewed meads and his black/raspberry
> melomels (fruit added mead). To die for! Like home brewed beer, and as we
> all know, just like food, the key is the ingredients. You buy those "kits"
> with the packets of crap and you're gonna get crap. Use the best honey,
> grains, yeast, water, etc, and you get great beer/mead.
>
> I know that homebrewing was a pretty dismal proposition 30-40 yrs ago, but
> now it's serious stuff. The whole renaissance in US beers is due to the
> grass roots microbrewery industry which grew, almost to a brand, from home
> brewing. I've been to more than one microbrewery that has the same 5 gal
> homebrewing system, which anyone can buy, to develop a new beer offering
> before they ramp up to brew it commercially.
>
> If you can bake a better quiche than Nancy's ....I sure as Hell can!.... you
> can brew a better beer than Bud.
>
> nb


I have some crabapples in the freezer; sour and dark red all the way to
the core. I was planning to make jelly with them someday, but we don't
eat much jelly and still have crabapple and mayhaw jellies left from
several years ago.

So I been thinkin' about making cyser with them. (mead with apples
added.) The freezing/thawing should help them release their juice. Do
I need to do anything about all that pectin? And do I add them to the
fermenter raw or should I cook them first? I want the end product to
have a nice rosy color; it would be nice if it was clear instead of
cloudy or hazy.

Bob

On 2009-05-20, zxcvbob > wrote:

> I have some crabapples in the freezer; sour and dark red all the way to
> the core. I was planning to make jelly with them someday, but we don't
> eat much jelly and still have crabapple and mayhaw jellies left from
> several years ago.
>
> So I been thinkin' about making cyser with them. (mead with apples
> added.) The freezing/thawing should help them release their juice. Do
> I need to do anything about all that pectin? And do I add them to the
> fermenter raw or should I cook them first? I want the end product to
> have a nice rosy color; it would be nice if it was clear instead of
> cloudy or hazy.

Oops!

Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression. My beer brewing mentor did mead.
I've never made even basic mead. Looks like you know more about it than I
do (I had to look up cyser!).

I could ask my mentor about your question. Sounds like you're asking if you
can use crabapples and some jellied fruits to flavor some home made mead.
Is that correct? You say the crabapples are red to the core. Are they
processed or preserved in some way?

As for the clear vs cloudy issue, that's typically an age factor. Like
beer, I suspect the cloudiness is the yeast proteins in suspension. These
usually drop out over time. This shouldn't be an issue with mead as a good
mead should be aged at least a year. I'll ask my buddy to clarify.

nb

"George Shirley" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news
> What's the worse beer you've ever run through your kidneys?
>
> I'll start with a short list from my youth.
>
> 1. Pearl
> 2. Narragansett
> 3. Griesedieck
> 4. National Bohemian

USAn beer is an experience that leaves you sadder Budwiser. ;-)

I was amazed to see Budweiser listed as bad beer; then I remembered
that Amheuser-Bush is selling their dreck under the same name as the
original beer.
That sometimes leads to amusement when USAn tourists enter a pub
over here which has Budweiser from the tap. After one or two they
aren't able to walk in a straight line anymore ...

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

notbob wrote:
> On 2009-05-20, zxcvbob > wrote:
>
>> I have some crabapples in the freezer; sour and dark red all the way to
>> the core. I was planning to make jelly with them someday, but we don't
>> eat much jelly and still have crabapple and mayhaw jellies left from
>> several years ago.
>>
>> So I been thinkin' about making cyser with them. (mead with apples
>> added.) The freezing/thawing should help them release their juice. Do
>> I need to do anything about all that pectin? And do I add them to the
>> fermenter raw or should I cook them first? I want the end product to
>> have a nice rosy color; it would be nice if it was clear instead of
>> cloudy or hazy.
>
> Oops!
>
> Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression. My beer brewing mentor did mead.
> I've never made even basic mead. Looks like you know more about it than I
> do (I had to look up cyser!).
>
> I could ask my mentor about your question. Sounds like you're asking if you
> can use crabapples and some jellied fruits to flavor some home made mead.
> Is that correct? You say the crabapples are red to the core. Are they
> processed or preserved in some way?
>
> As for the clear vs cloudy issue, that's typically an age factor. Like
> beer, I suspect the cloudiness is the yeast proteins in suspension. These
> usually drop out over time. This shouldn't be an issue with mead as a good
> mead should be aged at least a year. I'll ask my buddy to clarify.
>
> nb


The crabapples are fresh/frozen, not processed at all. I picked them
and threw them in the deepfreeze to make jelly in the winter and then
never did.

Not going to add jelly to the mead, although that might be an
interesting way to use up old jelly. (A better way to use it up as to
use it for a sweetener in smoothies.) The pectin in the apples might
make it hard to extract the juice, or it might make the finished product
hazy. I have some pectin enzyme, but it's a pretty old bottle and I
don't know if it's still good.

Bob

George Shirley wrote:
>
> The only Mexican beer I ever drank and enjoyed was Tecate.

I used to like Superior, but I haven't seen it
in years. I suspect it isn't made anymore.

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2009-05-20, TammyM > wrote:
>
>> Beers I love: Singha, Bitburger Pils, Anchor Steam, Guinness, Bachelor
>> Bitter (microbrew from Bend, Oregon).
>
> Now, here's a lady who knows her beers.
>
> I'll look out for that BB/OR beer.

It's from the Deschutes (sp?) brewery up there, NB. Very nice beers, but
the Bachelor Bitter is my favorite of theirs. The brewpub itself also had
some very nice pub food, but sadly, I haven't been there in well over a
decade.

I neglected to mention that I also enjoy the microbrews from our (Davis,
California) very own Sudwerks. The hefeweizen is particularly lovely this
time of year, and during the uber hot heatwaves we have.

TammyM

On 2009-05-20, zxcvbob > wrote:

> The crabapples are fresh/frozen, not processed at all. I picked them
> and threw them in the deepfreeze to make jelly in the winter and then
> never did.

> ............The pectin in the apples......

This is where I get confused, as I know absolutely zip about canning or
processing fruit. What "pectin" is in the apples, if they are not
processed? Are you referring to natural pectin? I don't even know what
pectin is, so you'll hafta educate me on this one.

nb

On 2009-05-20, Mark Thorson > wrote:

> I used to like Superior, but I haven't seen it
> in years. I suspect it isn't made anymore.

It's still around. I can't tell you if it's still any good:

http://www.ccm.com.mx/

nb

On Tue, 19 May 2009 16:47:55 -0500, George Shirley wrote:

> What's the worse beer you've ever run through your kidneys?
>
> I'll start with a short list from my youth.
>
> 1. Pearl
> 2. Narragansett
> 3. Griesedieck
> 4. National Bohemian

K"ol

--
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This time I know too much of what I am talking about.




--
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On the Internet, you can never tell who is a dog --
supposing you care -- but you can tell who has a mind.

notbob wrote:
>
> There were a slew of cheap beers back in the day, before the mega-swill
> brewers bought them all out. Hamms. Olympia. Lucky Lager. Thank gawd for
> micro-breweries.

Lucky was so cheaply made that instead of a paper label,
the information about the beer was molded into the glass.

If they still make it, I suspect they would have had to go
to a paper label, with all stuff they have to disclose
these days.

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
...
> George wrote:
>
>> What's the worse beer you've ever run through your kidneys?
>>
>> I'll start with a short list from my youth.
>>
>> 1. Pearl
>> 2. Narragansett
>> 3. Griesedieck
>> 4. National Bohemian
>
>
> 1. EKU -- a Czech beer so vile I couldn't down more than about two ounces.
>
> 2. San Miguel "with a little formaldehyde for flavor"
>
> 3. Budweiser
>
>
> Bob

EKU is indeed vile stuff. I actually couldn't get past the first sip.

Labatt's was a close second.

Jon



Jon

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2009-05-19, Bob Terwilliger > wrote:
>
>> 1. EKU -- a Czech beer so vile I couldn't down more than about two
>> ounces.
>
>> 3. Budweiser
>
> Funny you would equate 2 beers so dissimilar. Bud is crap beer, no
> denying,
> but EKU 28 is a brilliant German Doppelbock. I admit to not liking it
> first
> time I tried it, but I was rank amateaur beer drinker, then, not savvy to
> t
> he real beers of the World. It's not for the faint of heart, it having a
> very heavy malt profile to reach its monster 11% abv level. It has a very
> sweet, almost cloying, mouthfeel. It's also pretty hopy. I don't know
> what
> EKU you are talking about, the one I'm talking about is like drinking
> candy
> ....candy that'll kick your ass!
>
> http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/412/1230
>
> nb

NB, the EKU I had was a pilsner not a doppelbock. No maltiness at all, just
a horridly bitter aftertaste.

Jon

notbob wrote:
> On 2009-05-20, zxcvbob > wrote:
>
>> The crabapples are fresh/frozen, not processed at all. I picked them
>> and threw them in the deepfreeze to make jelly in the winter and then
>> never did.
>
>> ............The pectin in the apples......
>
> This is where I get confused, as I know absolutely zip about canning or
> processing fruit. What "pectin" is in the apples, if they are not
> processed? Are you referring to natural pectin? I don't even know what
> pectin is, so you'll hafta educate me on this one.
>
> nb


yes, natural pectin in the apples. It's a type of soluble fiber; I think
it's a polysaccharide like cellulose. It's the gelling agent for jams
and jellies. In wines it's a bad thing, but probably only a visual flaw.

Bob
--
"Must be jelly 'cuz jam don't shake like that"

On 2009-05-20, Zeppo > wrote:

> NB, the EKU I had was a pilsner not a doppelbock. No maltiness at all, just
> a horridly bitter aftertaste.

I think they do make a pilsner, which I've never tasted. I can pretty much
tell which folks, here, don't like hops, which I understand. Most Euro
style lagers and pilsners are hoppier than your typical American canoe
beers. That's the bitterness. In my case, I'm a total hops freak, so
there's no such thing as too bitter.

nb