Ophelia wrote:
> "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in message
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>>If you are very careful in how you place the whole cabbage leaves it is
>>possible to open them slightly when serving, once the meat ball is in the
>>bowl and appropriately positioned just carefully peel back the delicate
>>tips of the cabbage leaves as if it were blooming A silly affectation
>>that you have to begin by how you wrap up the cabbage originally.
>
>
> Absolutely not! I love to hear of cooks taking such care with their
> presentation
>
>
>


Thanks, its not a popular recipe and i thought i might have gone a bit
'over the top'
with such a suggestion
--

Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky.../sf_anthem.mp3

"Kathleen" > wrote in message
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> It doesn't sound daft to me, not at all. I make all sorts of lifestyle
> adjustments for my dogs without even thinking about it and am surprised
> when people think it's odd.

You too huh)))

> Hell, I didn't eat out at restaurants when my kids were infants and liable
> to disturb people around us. And you don't eat out when you've got a
> geriatric dog likely to be unnerved by your absence who clearly treasures
> your company. Both are temporary issues.
>
> It's about priorities.

Yes it is) And she is

"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in message
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> Ophelia wrote:
>> "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in message
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>>>If you are very careful in how you place the whole cabbage leaves it is
>>>possible to open them slightly when serving, once the meat ball is in the
>>>bowl and appropriately positioned just carefully peel back the delicate
>>>tips of the cabbage leaves as if it were blooming A silly affectation
>>>that you have to begin by how you wrap up the cabbage originally.
>>
>>
>> Absolutely not! I love to hear of cooks taking such care with their
>> presentation
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Thanks, its not a popular recipe and i thought i might have gone a bit
> 'over the top'
> with such a suggestion

Why in the world would you think that??? If you enjoy making it pretty,
it can only give you pleasure and add to the enjoyment of the meal) I
would certainly
appreciate it if you went to all that trouble to make it for me)

Ophelia wrote:
> "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in message
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>
>>
>>Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>>"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>>>>If you are very careful in how you place the whole cabbage leaves it is
>>>>possible to open them slightly when serving, once the meat ball is in the
>>>>bowl and appropriately positioned just carefully peel back the delicate
>>>>tips of the cabbage leaves as if it were blooming A silly affectation
>>>>that you have to begin by how you wrap up the cabbage originally.
>>>
>>>
>>>Absolutely not! I love to hear of cooks taking such care with their
>>>presentation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks, its not a popular recipe and i thought i might have gone a bit
>>'over the top'
>>with such a suggestion
>
>
> Why in the world would you think that??? If you enjoy making it pretty,
> it can only give you pleasure and add to the enjoyment of the meal) I
> would certainly
> appreciate it if you went to all that trouble to make it for me)
>
>
>
*Chuckle* don't get me started i have a lovely little ceramic tureen
with domed cover
that is in a rococo style though not old that makes a lovely
presentation for the big cabbage wrapped meat ball.

--

Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky.../sf_anthem.mp3

"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in message
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> Ophelia wrote:
>> "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in message
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>>>
>>>Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>If you are very careful in how you place the whole cabbage leaves it is
>>>>>possible to open them slightly when serving, once the meat ball is in
>>>>>the
>>>>>bowl and appropriately positioned just carefully peel back the delicate
>>>>>tips of the cabbage leaves as if it were blooming A silly
>>>>>affectation
>>>>>that you have to begin by how you wrap up the cabbage originally.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Absolutely not! I love to hear of cooks taking such care with their
>>>>presentation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks, its not a popular recipe and i thought i might have gone a bit
>>>'over the top'
>>>with such a suggestion
>>
>>
>> Why in the world would you think that??? If you enjoy making it pretty,
>> it can only give you pleasure and add to the enjoyment of the meal) I
>> would certainly
>> appreciate it if you went to all that trouble to make it for me)
>>
>>
>>
> *Chuckle* don't get me started i have a lovely little ceramic tureen
> with domed cover
> that is in a rococo style though not old that makes a lovely presentation
> for the big cabbage wrapped meat ball.

O settles herself at table......................

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in message
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>> Ophelia wrote:
>>> "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in message
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>>>>Ophelia wrote:
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>>>>>"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>If you are very careful in how you place the whole cabbage leaves it
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>possible to open them slightly when serving, once the meat ball is in
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>bowl and appropriately positioned just carefully peel back the
>>>>>>delicate
>>>>>>tips of the cabbage leaves as if it were blooming A silly
>>>>>>affectation
>>>>>>that you have to begin by how you wrap up the cabbage originally.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Absolutely not! I love to hear of cooks taking such care with their
>>>>>presentation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks, its not a popular recipe and i thought i might have gone a bit
>>>>'over the top'
>>>>with such a suggestion
>>>
>>>
>>> Why in the world would you think that??? If you enjoy making it
>>> pretty,
>>> it can only give you pleasure and add to the enjoyment of the meal) I
>>> would certainly
>>> appreciate it if you went to all that trouble to make it for me)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> *Chuckle* don't get me started i have a lovely little ceramic tureen
>> with domed cover
>> that is in a rococo style though not old that makes a lovely presentation
>> for the big cabbage wrapped meat ball.
>
> O settles herself at table......................
>

Mr. Littleshoes is clearly an artist.

"cybercat" > wrote in message
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> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>> "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in message
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>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>> "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>>Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." > wrote in message
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you are very careful in how you place the whole cabbage leaves it
>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>possible to open them slightly when serving, once the meat ball is in
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>bowl and appropriately positioned just carefully peel back the
>>>>>>>delicate
>>>>>>>tips of the cabbage leaves as if it were blooming A silly
>>>>>>>affectation
>>>>>>>that you have to begin by how you wrap up the cabbage originally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Absolutely not! I love to hear of cooks taking such care with their
>>>>>>presentation
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks, its not a popular recipe and i thought i might have gone a bit
>>>>>'over the top'
>>>>>with such a suggestion
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why in the world would you think that??? If you enjoy making it
>>>> pretty,
>>>> it can only give you pleasure and add to the enjoyment of the meal)
>>>> I
>>>> would certainly
>>>> appreciate it if you went to all that trouble to make it for me)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> *Chuckle* don't get me started i have a lovely little ceramic tureen
>>> with domed cover
>>> that is in a rococo style though not old that makes a lovely
>>> presentation
>>> for the big cabbage wrapped meat ball.
>>
>> O settles herself at table......................
>>
>
> Mr. Littleshoes is clearly an artist.

heh, those meatballs and cabbage sound very nice too)))))

"Ophelia" > wrote:

> This probably sounds daft, but since we got our dog we haven't eaten out
> We used to eat out 2/3 times a week, but I don't like leaving her. She is
> an old lady and we like to spend all our time with her while we have her
> Anyway, I do make an effort to make my food look pretty for serving.

You've just reminded me. I'd always wanted a dog so when I bought a
bungalow my partner suggested it mught be the right time. So we got a
beautiful short-haired labrador pup. He was a darling bundle of fur
but he just couldn't be left alone. He fretted, cried, and tore up
whatever was at hand. we got him during the summer vacation so he had
a few weeks to settle down.

We both worked. The only solution - I would take him to school with
me. The kids would love him. The head and I had had battles in the
past and he refused entrance. I already had a spare pets refuge room
which housed neglected rabbits, guinea pigs and rats which we, the
children and friends funded. It provided therapeutic help for lonely
or bullied or problematic children, so a puppy wouldn't be a pest.
Still the answer was no!

So out into my car he went. He was walked at break times and lunch
times. There was no shortage of offers. Unfortunately, he still pined
and proceeded to tear up seats. In a month he had destroyed the car.
In the end we had to give him away to a more spacious life on a farm.
We were never allowed to meet up with him again and it broke my heart.
--
Don

"Don Gray" > wrote in message
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> So out into my car he went. He was walked at break times and lunch
> times. There was no shortage of offers. Unfortunately, he still pined
> and proceeded to tear up seats. In a month he had destroyed the car.
> In the end we had to give him away to a more spacious life on a farm.
> We were never allowed to meet up with him again and it broke my heart.

I always wanted a dog, but as we both worked full time I knew had to wait
until I retired. There was one time I DID get a dog but it was unplanned.
The garage that looked after my car, had a dog tied up at the entrance. He
(the dog) was tied up all day and at night when the owner went home, he was
left inside a cold garage alone! It was heartbreaking. When I was told the
owner was going into bankruptcy, I asked about the dog. I was told he would
be put down!!! I took him immediately. He was happy enough while i was at
work.. at least he was in the warm. I was working fairly nearby at that
time, and I was home at lunchtime to take him out. Of course it was not
ideal, and eventually I found him a home at a smallholding. heh! I visited
him once He came over to give me a lick and then he bounced off with his
harem, and thereafter ignored me. He was the top dog there)))

On Oct 6, 8:52*am, Don Gray > wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote:
> > This probably sounds daft, but since we got our dog we haven't eaten out
> > We used to eat out 2/3 times a week, but I don't like leaving her. *She is
> > an old lady and we like to spend all our time with her while we have her
> > Anyway, I do make an effort to make my food look pretty for serving.
>
> You've just reminded me. I'd always wanted a dog so when I bought a
> bungalow my partner suggested it mught be the right time. So we got a
> beautiful short-haired labrador pup. He was a darling bundle of fur
> but he just couldn't be left alone. He fretted, cried, and tore up
> whatever was at hand. we got him during the summer vacation so he had
> a few weeks to settle down.
>
> We both worked. The only solution - I would take him to school with
> me. The kids would love him. The head and I had had battles in the
> past and he refused entrance. I already had a spare pets refuge room
> which housed neglected rabbits, guinea pigs and rats which we, the
> children and friends funded. It provided therapeutic help for lonely
> or bullied or problematic children, so a puppy wouldn't be a pest.
> Still the answer was no!
>
> So out into my car he went. He was walked at break times and lunch
> times. There was no shortage of offers. Unfortunately, he still pined
> and proceeded to tear up seats. In a month he had destroyed the car.
> In the end we had to give him away to a more spacious life on a farm.
> We were never allowed to meet up with him again and it broke my heart.
> --
> Don

If you had crate-trained him at the start, you wouldn't have lost
him. After crate-training until age 3, our Lab could be left alone in
the house and never did anything bad at all. Ever. And everyone
worked all day. She died just about a year ago, at the age of 14.

N.

Nancy2 wrote:
>
>>
>> We both worked. The only solution - I would take him to school with
>> me. The kids would love him. The head and I had had battles in the
>> past and he refused entrance. I already had a spare pets refuge room
>> which housed neglected rabbits, guinea pigs and rats which we, the
>> children and friends funded. It provided therapeutic help for lonely
>> or bullied or problematic children, so a puppy wouldn't be a pest.
>> Still the answer was no!
>>
>> So out into my car he went. He was walked at break times and lunch
>> times. There was no shortage of offers. Unfortunately, he still pined
>> and proceeded to tear up seats. In a month he had destroyed the car.
>> In the end we had to give him away to a more spacious life on a farm.
>> We were never allowed to meet up with him again and it broke my heart.
>> --
>> Don
>
> If you had crate-trained him at the start, you wouldn't have lost
> him. After crate-training until age 3, our Lab could be left alone in
> the house and never did anything bad at all. Ever. And everyone
> worked all day. She died just about a year ago, at the age of 14.


I crate trained two labs and was able to leave them out by the time they
were about 6 months. Each one of them chewed a shoe or two, but that was
about it. My brother has the Lab from hell. He is now pushing four and
still can't be left alone for more than a few hours. I think that has a
lot to do with my brother being puppy whipped. His last dog, a german
Shepherd, had him well trained and this one pretty well controls my
brother's life too.

My current dog, A Belgium Shepherd that I adopted when he was 5, has
never chewed anything. The one we lost last year, a German
Shepherd/Bouvier, was surprisingly trustworthy in the house. We got home
from the pound when he was a year and a half. He had never been in a
house. He was house trained within a few days and never chewed anything.

On Oct 6, 11:28*am, Dave Smith > wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
>
> >> We both worked. The only solution - I would take him to school with
> >> me. The kids would love him. The head and I had had battles in the
> >> past and he refused entrance. I already had a spare pets refuge room
> >> which housed neglected rabbits, guinea pigs and rats which we, the
> >> children and friends funded. It provided therapeutic help for lonely
> >> or bullied or problematic children, so a puppy wouldn't be a pest.
> >> Still the answer was no!
>
> >> So out into my car he went. He was walked at break times and lunch
> >> times. There was no shortage of offers. Unfortunately, he still pined
> >> and proceeded to tear up seats. In a month he had destroyed the car.
> >> In the end we had to give him away to a more spacious life on a farm.
> >> We were never allowed to meet up with him again and it broke my heart.
> >> --
> >> Don
>
> > If you had crate-trained him at the start, you wouldn't have lost
> > him. *After crate-training until age 3, our Lab could be left alone in
> > the house and never did anything bad at all. *Ever. *And everyone
> > worked all day. *She died just about a year ago, at the age of 14.
>
> I crate trained two labs and was able to leave them out by the time they
> were about 6 months. Each one of them chewed a shoe or two, but that was
> about it. My brother has the Lab from hell. He is now pushing four and
> still can't be left alone for more than a few hours. I think that has a
> lot to do with my brother being puppy whipped. His last dog, a german
> Shepherd, *had him well trained and this one pretty well controls my
> brother's life too.
>
> My current dog, A Belgium Shepherd that I adopted when he was 5, has
> never chewed anything. The one we lost last year, a German
> Shepherd/Bouvier, was surprisingly trustworthy in the house. We got home
> from the pound when he was a year and a half. He had never been in a
> house. He was house trained within a few days and never chewed anything.

What does a German Shepherd/Bouvier de Flandres LOOK like
anyway????!!!!!??? My friend has an Australian Shepherd and every
time they have a party she wanders frantically from room to room
sniffing at folks heels and trying to herd them all into one room!
Lynn in Fargo
Dog lover with no dog

Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig wrote:


>> My current dog, A Belgium Shepherd that I adopted when he was 5, has
>> never chewed anything. The one we lost last year, a German
>> Shepherd/Bouvier, was surprisingly trustworthy in the house. We got home
>> from the pound when he was a year and a half. He had never been in a
>> house. He was house trained within a few days and never chewed anything.
>
> What does a German Shepherd/Bouvier de Flandres LOOK like
> anyway????!!!!!???

he was a beautiful creature. We fell in love with him as soon as we saw
him at the pound. He was about 80 lb, had coarse black curly hair like a
Bouvier, tail intact, long legs, big feet. Basically, he looked like a
skinny Bouvier but with a long tail and big floppy ears. Occasionally
one or both ears would stand more or less erect. He had a very friendly
disposition but he was a bit of an idiot, which was odd considering that
both breeds tend to be quite bright.


> My friend has an Australian Shepherd and every
> time they have a party she wanders frantically from room to room
> sniffing at folks heels and trying to herd them all into one room!

That one wasn't much of a herder, but our Belgium Shepherd certainly is.
He likes to have everyone together. If there are two or more people
together he will go off to one side and look the other way.