Does anybody know, that according to some Oil Geologists (e.g. Colin
Campbell) in 2013 the world oil output is going to peak ? Are you
aware what this does mean for all of us ? We have 4 years from now,
until there will not be enough energy for travelling, heating and the
most important for food for everybody of us. Oil prices will begin to
peak, not 150 USD/barrel, much much higger prices are expected. Many
people will loose their jobs and many of us will begin to starve.
Alternatives will also be more expensive since the demand will
increase astronomically. Alternative energy will also be much much
more expensive, due to the demand and due to much higher costs. Making
a wind turbine cost a lot of energy. Making ethanol cost a lot of oil
(pesticides, insecticides, transportation, production, harvesting,
fertilizers etc.). Making insulations cost also a lot of oil.



What is the solution ? The only way is to act now, individually. Now,
where the oil prices are still cheap, although there is an increase,
each individual can begin to prepare himself for these hard times in
near future. Insulation of houses, solar cells, which are now more
affordable (in ebay 1 W solar cells cost 1 USD or even less), solar
water heating, solar heating with mirrors reflecting the sunlight to
your home in winter, making your own wind turbine (a lot of
instruction of cheap design can be found in the internet), buying a
plug-in car or a hybrid vehicle, using energy efficient lightning,
heating with heat pumps, making a winter garden etc. are some of the
things each of us can do to prepare himself/herself for hard times and
to save money and energy. There are also ways to save energy and try
to extend the date a little bit by using the car only when necessary,
using the bike instead of your car, using public transportation,
converting the car to methane fueling, saving energy where ever it is
possible, not only in your home also in your work, etc. will help to
extend the date.



The other alternative is to wait until this date, actually the
economical crisis is in its ending phase and the oil prices will again
rise to record highs. But this is nothing compared to the prices when
world oil supplies will deminish 4% yearly. And after this date (2013)
very very hard times may come. Starvation and even worse things like
war are the alternative.



If you act now, you will also help to produce new jobs in your
country.



Regards.


You can find much more on: http://www.peakoil.net/

peakoil wrote:
>
> Does anybody know, that according to some Oil Geologists (e.g. Colin
> Campbell) in 2013 the world oil output is going to peak ? Are you
> aware what this does mean for all of us ? We have 4 years from now,
> until there will not be enough energy for travelling, heating and the

Baloney. We don't fall off a cliff in 2013, as you imply,
even if your statistics were correct. It's a very shallow
and gradual peak. Also, it should be noted that estimates
of recoverable petroleum seriously underestimate their
size. Saudi Arabia won't allow exploration in certain areas
because they don't want it to be known just how much they've
got. U.S. oil producers underestimate their reserves because
they don't want to pay extra taxes on the land. Vast new
oil reserves are being discovered all the time, for example
off the coast of west Africa.

Worldwide coal reserves represent a far larger source of
energy, and liquid fuels can be made from coal if pressed
to the wall on that, as was Germany during WW2 and South
Africa during the embargo.

Natural gas reserves increase every year, despite high
consumption. That's because new deposits are being found
at a faster rate than consumption.

If the rest of your web site is as poorly informed as
your spam posting, it's a complete waste of time to look
at it.

On Sun, 24 May 2009 14:21:51 -0700, Mark Thorson wrote:

> peakoil wrote:
>>
>> Does anybody know, that according to some Oil Geologists (e.g. Colin
>> Campbell) in 2013 the world oil output is going to peak ? Are you
>> aware what this does mean for all of us ? We have 4 years from now,
>> until there will not be enough energy for travelling, heating and the
>
> Baloney. We don't fall off a cliff in 2013, as you imply,
> even if your statistics were correct. It's a very shallow
> and gradual peak. Also, it should be noted that estimates
> of recoverable petroleum seriously underestimate their
> size. Saudi Arabia won't allow exploration in certain areas
> because they don't want it to be known just how much they've
> got.

that may be, but i think that the saudis don't want people to know that
they have *less* oil than most people think.

In a new study soon to be released, Matthew R. Simmons, president of
Simmons and Company International, a specialized energy investment banking
firm, contends that this is not likely to happen. He argues that Saudi
Arabia's oil fields now are in decline, that the country will not be able
to satisfy the world's thirst for oil in coming years and that its capacity
will not climb much higher than its current capacity of 10mbd. Considering
the growth in demand, this could easily spark a global energy crisis.

Simmons analyzed 200 technical papers on Saudi reserves by the Society of
Petroleum Engineers and his work was peer reviewed by a dozen senior
technical experts. What he discovered tells a different story than the
conventional wisdom.

Saudi Arabia has over 300 recognized reservoirs but 90% of its oil comes
from the five super giant fields discovered between 1940 and 1965. Since
the 1970s there haven't been new discoveries of giant fields. The most
significant of the oil fields is Ghawar. Found in 1948, the 300-mile-long
sliver near the Persian Gulf is the world's largest oil field and accounts
for 55%-60% of all Saudi oil produced. Ghawar's current proven reserves are
12% of the world's total. The field produces 5 mbd, which is 6.25% of the
world's oil production. According to Simmons, Ghawar's northern regions are
almost depleted. Two other giant fields, Abqaiq and Berri, also seem to
have peaked in the 1970s.

<http://www.iags.org/n0331043.htm>

Aramco, the company in charge of Saudi oil operations, disputes Simmons
assertion and has debated him in public policy forums. But Simmons isn't
easily dismissed, as he's no anti-establishment crank. In addition to his
role as chief executive of a major energy-focused investment bank, which
counts Halliburton (HAL, news, msgs) and the World Bank among its clients,
hes a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and was an advisor to
President Bushs election campaign and Vice President Dick Cheneys infamous
energy task force.

<http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/P87339.asp>

your pal,
blake

"peakoil" > wrote in message
...
> Does anybody know, that according to some Oil Geologists (e.g. Colin
> Campbell) in 2013 the world oil output is going to peak ? Are you
> aware what this does mean for all of us ? We have 4 years from now,
> until there will not be enough energy for travelling, heating and the
> most important for food for everybody of us. Oil prices will begin to
> peak, not 150 USD/barrel, much much higger prices are expected. Many
> people will loose their jobs and many of us will begin to starve.
> Alternatives will also be more expensive since the demand will
> increase astronomically. Alternative energy will also be much much
> more expensive, due to the demand and due to much higher costs. Making
> a wind turbine cost a lot of energy. Making ethanol cost a lot of oil
> (pesticides, insecticides, transportation, production, harvesting,
> fertilizers etc.). Making insulations cost also a lot of oil.
>
>
>
> What is the solution ? The only way is to act now, individually. Now,
> where the oil prices are still cheap, although there is an increase,
> each individual can begin to prepare himself for these hard times in
> near future. Insulation of houses, solar cells, which are now more
> affordable (in ebay 1 W solar cells cost 1 USD or even less), solar
> water heating, solar heating with mirrors reflecting the sunlight to
> your home in winter, making your own wind turbine (a lot of
> instruction of cheap design can be found in the internet), buying a
> plug-in car or a hybrid vehicle, using energy efficient lightning,
> heating with heat pumps, making a winter garden etc. are some of the
> things each of us can do to prepare himself/herself for hard times and
> to save money and energy. There are also ways to save energy and try
> to extend the date a little bit by using the car only when necessary,
> using the bike instead of your car, using public transportation,
> converting the car to methane fueling, saving energy where ever it is
> possible, not only in your home also in your work, etc. will help to
> extend the date.
>
>
>
> The other alternative is to wait until this date, actually the
> economical crisis is in its ending phase and the oil prices will again
> rise to record highs. But this is nothing compared to the prices when
> world oil supplies will deminish 4% yearly. And after this date (2013)
> very very hard times may come. Starvation and even worse things like
> war are the alternative.
>
>
>
> If you act now, you will also help to produce new jobs in your
> country.
>
>
>

I'm buying oil futures.

On May 25, 2:18*pm, "Kswck" > wrote:
> "peakoil" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > Does anybody know, that according to some Oil Geologists (e.g. Colin
> > Campbell) in 2013 the world oil output is going to peak ? *Are you
> > aware what this does mean for all of us ? *We have 4 years from now,
> > until there will not be enough energy for travelling, heating and the
> > most important for food for everybody of us. Oil prices will begin to
> > peak, not 150 USD/barrel, much much higger prices are expected. Many
> > people will loose their jobs and many of us will begin to starve.
> > Alternatives will also be more expensive since the demand will
> > increase astronomically. Alternative energy will also be much much
> > more expensive, due to the demand and due to much higher costs. Making
> > a wind turbine cost a lot of energy. Making ethanol cost a lot of oil
> > (pesticides, insecticides, transportation, production, harvesting,
> > fertilizers etc.). Making insulations cost also a lot of oil.
>
> > What is the solution ? The only way is to act now, individually. Now,
> > where the oil prices are still cheap, although there is an increase,
> > each individual can begin to prepare himself for these hard times in
> > near future. Insulation of houses, solar cells, which are now more
> > affordable (in ebay 1 W solar cells cost 1 USD or even less), solar
> > water heating, solar heating with mirrors reflecting the sunlight to
> > your home in winter, making your own wind turbine (a lot of
> > instruction of cheap design can be found in the internet), buying a
> > plug-in car or a hybrid vehicle, using energy efficient lightning,
> > heating with heat pumps, making a winter garden etc. are some of the
> > things each of us can do to prepare himself/herself for hard times and
> > to save money and energy. There are also ways to save energy and try
> > to extend the date a little bit by using the car only when necessary,
> > using the bike instead of your car, using public transportation,
> > converting the car to methane fueling, saving energy where ever it is
> > possible, not only in your home also in your work, etc. will help to
> > extend the date.
>
> > The other alternative is to wait until this date, actually the
> > economical crisis is in its ending phase and the oil prices will again
> > rise to record highs. But this is nothing compared to the prices when
> > world oil supplies will deminish 4% yearly. And after this date (2013)
> > very very hard times may come. Starvation and even worse things like
> > war are the alternative.
>
> > If you act now, you will also help to produce new jobs in your
> > country.
>
> I'm buying oil futures.


I don't know what's going to happen with oil, or why this is being
posted here, but since it was almost $4.50 a gallon last summer and
there were no gas lines or shortages, I'd say that we'll be
economically devastated long before the oil actually starts running
out. It doesn't need to run out.

On Mon, 25 May 2009 12:26:46 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Helms wrote:
>
> I don't know what's going to happen with oil, or why this is being
> posted here, but since it was almost $4.50 a gallon last summer and
> there were no gas lines or shortages, I'd say that we'll be
> economically devastated long before the oil actually starts running
> out. It doesn't need to run out.

i can't say i'm a student of oil production levels, but i hope they hold on
to the strategic oil reserve for when we *really* might need it for certain
plastics and pharmaceuticals rather than **** it away to lower gas prices
for political ends.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 26 May 2009 17:44:34 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Mon, 25 May 2009 12:26:46 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Helms wrote:
>>
>> I don't know what's going to happen with oil, or why this is being
>> posted here, but since it was almost $4.50 a gallon last summer and
>> there were no gas lines or shortages, I'd say that we'll be
>> economically devastated long before the oil actually starts running
>> out. It doesn't need to run out.

The world's economy can't stand another dramatic rise in oil prices;
it would bring the world to its knees.

At least, I hope this is obvious.....
--
mad

I would like to chime in from China. I'm working here as a teacher.

Seems we forget that Henry ford was planning on using Hemp to make a biofuel
and the bodies for his cars.

In New Zealand they are making a plastic 10 times stronger than steel. This
is also made from Hemp.

The Germans used a hydronzation process obtained from Shell during WW II.

The end of the world is not quite yet.
I would like to think there are a few men out there still who cant think
creativly to solve these problems.

Oil is not all. Just it is/was the cheapest.

I saw a place called Coral Castle.
The man there made his own electricty and a giant coral stone castle for
himself.

I wonder what would happen if we stopped watching TV and whining about the
world and got off our butts and
remember what made man the top of the food chain.

Complaining is good. It lets us get what bothers us off our chests.

But in the long run.
Maybe, it would be better to do more with what we have already.

We can think.
We can do.
We can change it.

If we have and want to.

Just a few thoughts from a teacher.
I'm doing my bit to change the world.

You??????


Tom in Qing Dao
(Beer ok, Girls not bad)