ChattyCathy wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

After I voted "not yet" I remembered one memorable meal.

We were out for an anniversary dinner (with friends whose anniversary
was a day after ours) at a VERY upscale restaurant, The Corner House in
West Hartford, CT. about 40 years ago.

Two tables away were three or four young men from a local prep school
(blazers and ties were the norm those days) celebrating the end of
final exams.

After we all had ordered, a middle-aged, well dressed man was ushered to
the table between us with a flashily dressed middle aged woman. They
had a couple of drinks and the woman began to engage the preppies in
conversation. It soon became obvious that (1)she had been drinking
prior to arrival and (2) she was a "paid companion".

Her speech was slurred and she kept saying things like "You are such
nice boys, I wish my sons had the opportunity to go to a good school
like yours." ad nauseum. Her companion tried to hush her but she was
having none of it. The boys were obviously embarrassed and the man
finally insisted on paying for their dinner while they kept refusing.

We and our friends sat there trying not to react badly when she engaged
us in conversation. We were in our early 20s and had never experienced
anything like that even in our college years.

I wouldn't say it ruined our dinner since it gave us a story to recall
for years every time we got together, but it certainly wasn't the
lovely, relaxed dinner we had planned.

gloria p

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
On Jun 16, 11:02 am, "The Ranger" > wrote:
> ChattyCathy > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> >http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
> Experience says that you should move if it's impacting eating that much. ]
>

Sometimes you can't. When a kid is shrieking to the point that the
whole room hears him....are you supposed to up and leave? Pay or not?

One cigar smoker landed me sick in the restroom by the time my meal
came - a hundred bucks down the drain. Management said they didn't
wish to upset anyone and maybe _I_ shudda said something to him.
Thank heaven for the no smoking policy now. All we need now is a 'no
kids in this dining room' policy.

I also steer clear of booths where a kid is sitting and kicking on the
other side. Give me a nice, quiet table at the end of a deadend
aisle.

Loud music has sometimes been a turnoff too.



Uh oh.... now you're going to be called out for having a "no kids"
tolerance!

I have no problem with kids if their parents have control over them (which
they should). But I, too, have experienced the kids kicking me in the back
from the next booth experience. And in general these days the parents do
nothing. Some parents think it's normal behaviour, for some reason.

I was on a plane once, seated on the aisle with an empty seat next to me. A
young man asked if he could move to the seat next to mine. He said the kid
behind him kept kicking his seat hard and giggling about it. He'd asked the
mother if she could tell the boy to stop but either she wouldn't or she
couldn't control the boy. If it had been a full plane he'd have had to
endure this unruly child for 1000 miles. Sorry, but no one should have to
deal with that.

Shrieking children should always be taken outside or into a restroom. But
then again, it depends on the style of the restaurant. If I go to a "family
style" restaurant shouldn't I expect cranky children whose parents dragged
them out because they couldn't get a babysitter? If it's an upscale
restaurant and dinner is after "kiddie hour" then no, I'd expect management
to deal with it.

Kids aside, boorishly loud drunken adults in restaurants are annoying as
hell. Often they think they're the life of the party. They may well be the
life of *their* party but they aren't the life of the party for the entire
restaurant.

Would it put me off my food? Only if it got really extreme. It depends on
the situation and the restaurant (and how hungry I was LOL). If the food at
the place is *that* good I may ask to be reseated. Or I might leave and go
someplace else.

I prefer to cook at home anyway.

Jill

"The Ranger" > wrote in message
...
> U.N. > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Gotta love other people's kids.
>
> No. You. Don't. (Especially the abberant behaviors as you cited.)
>

Ranger, what, exactly, are we supposed to DO about other people's kids?
Your daughter-units may be perfect little ladies in public but this is
certainly not the case with other peoples' children.

30 years ago I took a lunch break and met a co-worker who wasn't scheduled
to work that day. We had lunch. She brought her *darling* toddler (I use
that term lightly) with her. He proceeded to dip his french fries in
ketchup and throw them at me throughout the meal. And all she said to the
boy was, "Quit!" and "Cut it out!"

I had to go back to work with ketchup all over my blouse. What was I
supposed to do, slap the shit out of him? I sure as hell wanted to. I
wanted to slap the shit out of her, too! But you can't discipline other
peoples children.

Jill

ChattyCathy wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

It took me a moment to realize there was a time that I was pretty
repulsed. My daughter and I were at a Japanese restaurant stall
in Cambridge, Massachusetts. There are only a few tables, which
are shared. A very dirty and smelly homeless person came in and
sat down at ours. As if that wasn't enough, he sneezed, and there
was much green snot on his face. I do believe we left pretty darn
quickly. Ugh.

--
Jean B.

sf wrote:

>
> I was wondering what made you think of that survey.

Well, if you really wanna know... Went out for lunch over the weekend to
a restaurant we like, and there was a woman there (we didn't know from
Adam) who made a right royal spectacle of herself just as we were
arriving. [I think the empty beer bottles on her table may have had
something to do with it...]

As for putting me off my food... almost. I must admit it was rather
annoying, and it took me a little longer than usual to peruse the menu
and decide what I wanted to order - but we still managed to have a nice
lunch. The waitress we had was very pleasant and efficient; I think she
was a bit embarrassed by the woman's behavior too and was trying to
make up for it (or something)... Got her a good tip tho' ;-)

Yet another reason why I'll leave running a restaurant to more patient
souls than me.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

jmcquown > wrote in message
...
> "The Ranger" > wrote in message
> ...
>> U.N. > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Gotta love other people's kids.
>>
>> No. You. Don't. (Especially the abberant behaviors as
>> you cited.)
>>
> Ranger, what, exactly, are we supposed to DO about
> other people's kids?

In your case, take whatever the hell they dish out; passive-aggressives
often do.

> Your daughter-units may be perfect little ladies in
> public but this is certainly not the case with other
> peoples' children.

They're far from perfect but understand that there are limits and if those
limits are exceeded then there will be IMMEDIATE consequences. Spawn's
learned that a trip to the car nets her a very unpleasant experience, even
if she is made of pure TeflonT.

Other children learn that very quickly as well. You just have to expect to
do more than pull that "Woe is me" card you constantly play.

> 30 years ago I took a lunch break and met a co-worker
> who wasn't scheduled to work that day. We had lunch. She brought her
> *darling* toddler (I use that term lightly)
> with her. He proceeded to dip his french fries in ketchup
> and throw them at me throughout the meal. And all she
> said to the boy was, "Quit!" and "Cut it out!"
>
> I had to go back to work with ketchup all over my blouse. What was I
> supposed to do, slap the shit out of him? I
> sure as hell wanted to. I wanted to slap the shit out of her,
> too! But you can't discipline other peoples children.

You don't state how old this "toddler" was but after the first fry, his
plate would have been moved over by me. I would have then explained to that
cow orker about setting limits. I don't have any problem "explaining" to
other children about not doing something.

We were at the Monterey Bay Aquarium recently looking at one of the outdoor
displays. The turtles were sunning themselves, quietly, on a couple logs.
There are signs everywhere to keep your hands out of the environment. Up
walk three adolescent kids, pushing and pulling each other. The "oldest,"
obviously in charge of the three, picks up something from the ground with,
"Watch this."

I moved over and looked at her; nothing more. She put the the item back down
on the ground and started to shuffle her feet. I then said, "Good choice. If
you want to see the display you can stay. There's lots to see but you need
to make better choices."

"Okay. Sorry."

The three left but that's all it took; minimum action.

You aren't capable of even that. You duck your head in the sand and then
complain about how "out of control" kids are. Of course they are, because
Sheeple like you refuse to get involved and set those boundaries that are
needed.

So continue complaining and doing nothing. That's what you're best at.

The Ranger

jmcquown wrote:
>
> I had to go back to work with ketchup all over my blouse. What was I
> supposed to do, slap the shit out of him? I sure as hell wanted to.
> I
> wanted to slap the shit out of her, too! But you can't discipline
> other peoples children.

Not that often, I'll admit.

However, I used to baby-sit a friend's 'little darling' who was usually
a little terror in reality. The child was about 4 y/o at the time.
Anyway, I was given permission to discipline the child in Mommy's
absence - and the child knew it. A couple of stern warnings was all it
took and then she behaved like an angel whenever she was over at my
place. She'd eat all her dinner (which never happened at home - and yes
her Mom was a decent cook), then settle down with a coloring book or
watch a video (this was long before DVDs were even heard of). When it
was bed time, she'd ask me to read her a story and then go off to
sleep...

But the funniest thing was when her mother said to the child in front of
me (after a particularly trying tantrum) 'Why are you so good for Cathy
and yet always so naughty for Mommy?' The little girl looked her right
in the eye and said, 'Because Cathy is strict with me - and you're
not'.

We tried not to laugh, but heck it was hard not to. But it just goes to
show, some kids don't only need, but *want* a certain amount of
discipline. Well, that's how I interpreted that little bit of
information. Dunno how anybody else feels about it...

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Jun 16, 5:54*pm, Kalmia > wrote:
> On Jun 16, 11:33*am, "The Ranger" > wrote:
> > > One cigar smoker landed me sick in the restroom by
> > > the time my meal came - a hundred bucks down the
> > > drain. Management said they didn't wish to upset
> > > anyone and maybe _I_ shudda said something to him.

> > You didn't say anything?

> Yes - "management said (to me after I beefed) that they didn't wish to
> upset anyone ( maybe he was a regular??)_ and that it was up to ME to
> say something to the smoker.

> Never went there again - too expensive to get burner twice.

In that case you're at the "show your cards" point of the game and
it's a matter of following through. I've only needed to do this twice.
The second time SWMBO and I were dining at a local upscale Italian
restaurant. We'd been there several times to the point where they
greeted us by name. One night, the assistant manager was seating
people, not the owner, and lead us towards the back, near the bathroom
and kitchen area.

As we walked past several open tables, I stopped and called to the
him, "We'd like to sit out here. At one," motioning to two deuces that
were free, "of these two."

"I'm sorry but those are for other reservations."

"I'm sorry, too. We're not being seated back there."

"All our tables receive the same level of service."

"I'm sure they do. That wasn't my worry. We're sitting at either of
these or not at all."

"I'm sorry..."

"That's twice you've said that and we both know you're not. Give my
regards to John." And SWMBO and I turned and walked back out.

I didn't have to call.

John called me and apologized for the assistant's actions inviting us
back another evening.

You don't have to be an extrovert to point out poor service or
unacceptable behavior. I never raised my voice nor got in the guy's
face. I simply stated, in a soft voice, that I wasn't willing to
accept the situation. My money votes wherever my feet take it.

The Ranger

On Jun 16, 6:08*pm, "U.N." > wrote:
> On Jun 16, 10:36*am, "The Ranger" > wrote:
[Snip-O'-Matic employed]
> Should I allow them? *Should I discipline other people's children for
> them?

These questions require more than a simple yes-no.

There is more to "disciplining other people's children" than
physically hitting or grabbing them, just like there is when dealing
with obnoxious cow orkers in one's workplace.

People always underestimate the power of words and fear nonverbal
communication.

Should you allow children to continue misbehaving? It's totally
dependent on the situation and how it will impact you. If you are
running a practice, and Little Johnny is unfocused and causing other
kids to lose out, you talk to him and, if it continues, set him aside
in a time out. He is removed from being the center of attention and
his audience is no longer feeding him. When Genius Janey is blurting
out answers in class, not calling on her specifically and praise those
children that raised their hand to answer the question works wonders.

You cited that the "parents came running when it screamed." That's
good. They saw you holding your plate away from it's grimy hands and
knew exactly what was going on. That's the opening you need to get
them to parent correctly.

Discipline doesn't need to be physical or harsh. It's teaching
boundaries and expectations.

So, if you are impacted directly, then yes you should provide the
boundaries that the parents are not. Will everyone do this; no.

The Ranger

On Jun 16, 2:53*pm, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> John Kane wrote:
>
> > If you're sensitive to smoke often enough smoke wafts over to affect
> > you. *The only way to get around it is to construct totally sealed
> > smoking areas ( well with an exhaust fan) the way the local bingo
> > halls did here before the provincial ban.
>
> FWIW, all the public smoking areas where I live have to adhere to those
> standards.
>
> However, I'd rather put up with second-hand smoke than certain
> deodorants/perfumes people insist on dousing themselves with.

Depends on your allergies and asthma triggers
>IMHO,
> there should be designated perfumed/non-perfumed public areas too.
> Never gonna happen, you may say? I dunno, they said that about smoking
> in public a while back...

It looks like it will take a while but I've noticed public transit
buses and the local hospital have notices up about not wearing
perfumes etc so we may be getting there.

John Kane Kingston ON Canada

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>,
Kalmia > wrote:

> On Jun 16, 6:10*pm, Becca > wrote:
> I wish they would seat
> > families on one side of the restaurant. *This way, the parents (or
> > grandparents) do not feel so uncomfortable when their child gets
> > restless or starts screeching.
>
>
> They should do more than get uncomfortable. They need to shut that
> kid UP.

How?
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Peace! Om

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It's about learning to dance in the rain.
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On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:35:45 -0400, Jean B. wrote:

> ChattyCathy wrote:
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
> It took me a moment to realize there was a time that I was pretty
> repulsed. My daughter and I were at a Japanese restaurant stall
> in Cambridge, Massachusetts. There are only a few tables, which
> are shared. A very dirty and smelly homeless person came in and
> sat down at ours. As if that wasn't enough, he sneezed, and there
> was much green snot on his face. I do believe we left pretty darn
> quickly. Ugh.

i think we have a winner!

your pal,
blake

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> "The Ranger" > wrote in message
> ...
> > U.N. > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >> Gotta love other people's kids.
> >
> > No. You. Don't. (Especially the abberant behaviors as you cited.)
> >
>
> Ranger, what, exactly, are we supposed to DO about other people's kids?
> Your daughter-units may be perfect little ladies in public but this is
> certainly not the case with other peoples' children.
>
> 30 years ago I took a lunch break and met a co-worker who wasn't scheduled
> to work that day. We had lunch. She brought her *darling* toddler (I use
> that term lightly) with her. He proceeded to dip his french fries in
> ketchup and throw them at me throughout the meal. And all she said to the
> boy was, "Quit!" and "Cut it out!"
>
> I had to go back to work with ketchup all over my blouse. What was I
> supposed to do, slap the shit out of him? I sure as hell wanted to. I
> wanted to slap the shit out of her, too! But you can't discipline other
> peoples children.
>
> Jill

I'd have gotten up and left after the second one.

Without a word...
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It's about learning to dance in the rain.
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On Jun 17, 10:44*am, Omelet > wrote:
> In article >,*jmcquown > wrote:

==> Jill's French Fry & Ketchup Strafing By Toddler <==

> I'd have gotten up and left after the second one.
>
> Without a word...

Then you wouldn't be able to play that martyr card! Come on O! Play
the game.

The Ranger

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>,
The Ranger > wrote:

> On Jun 17, 10:44*am, Omelet > wrote:
> > In article >,*jmcquown <j
> > > wrote:
>
> ==> Jill's French Fry & Ketchup Strafing By Toddler <==
>
> > I'd have gotten up and left after the second one.
> >
> > Without a word...
>
> Then you wouldn't be able to play that martyr card! Come on O! Play
> the game.
>
> The Ranger

:-)
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ChattyCathy wrote:

> We tried not to laugh, but heck it was hard not to. But it just goes to
> show, some kids don't only need, but *want* a certain amount of
> discipline. Well, that's how I interpreted that little bit of
> information. Dunno how anybody else feels about it...
>

I think a major part of the problem with today's parents is that they
want to be friends with their children instead of parents to their
children.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

ChattyCathy wrote:
>
>
> Well, if you really wanna know... Went out for lunch over the weekend to
> a restaurant we like, and there was a woman there (we didn't know from
> Adam) who made a right royal spectacle of herself just as we were
> arriving. [I think the empty beer bottles on her table may have had
> something to do with it...]
>
> As for putting me off my food... almost. I must admit it was rather
> annoying, and it took me a little longer than usual to peruse the menu
> and decide what I wanted to order - but we still managed to have a nice
> lunch. The waitress we had was very pleasant and efficient; I think she
> was a bit embarrassed by the woman's behavior too and was trying to
> make up for it (or something)... Got her a good tip tho' ;-)


Reminds me of a situation in my little town where we has two
restaurants. One of them had gone steadily downhill while ever
decreasing profits went up the owner's nose. There was a big closing
bash and we went with some friends. I quickly became acquainted with the
town drunken idiot and his wife/girlfriend who was drunk and belligerent
and getting increasingly irritated by the presence of so many people in
his drinking spot and the demise of his hangout. He was looking for a
fight. I had just returned from a week long course in self defence/use
of force and was ready for him if he tried anything on me, and one of
the guys in our party was a hockey player who loved to brawl.

Meanwhile, the other restaurant in town had just changed hands.
Apparently the old owners had kicked him out and would not serve him. I
guess the new owners didn't know about him. The next week we went for
dinner in the new place and who should be there but the idiot town drunk
and his wife/girlfriend, both drunk, stupid and obnoxious. I haven't
been back. I really don't care to go out for a meal and have to deal
with people like that.

jmcquown wrote:
> "The Ranger" > wrote in message
> ...
>> U.N. > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Gotta love other people's kids.
>>
>> No. You. Don't. (Especially the abberant behaviors as you cited.)
>>
>
> Ranger, what, exactly, are we supposed to DO about other people's kids?
> Your daughter-units may be perfect little ladies in public but this is
> certainly not the case with other peoples' children.
>
> 30 years ago I took a lunch break and met a co-worker who wasn't
> scheduled to work that day. We had lunch. She brought her *darling*
> toddler (I use that term lightly) with her. He proceeded to dip his
> french fries in ketchup and throw them at me throughout the meal. And
> all she said to the boy was, "Quit!" and "Cut it out!"
>
> I had to go back to work with ketchup all over my blouse. What was I
> supposed to do, slap the shit out of him? I sure as hell wanted to. I
> wanted to slap the shit out of her, too! But you can't discipline other
> peoples children.
>
> Jill

A lot of bitching today!

-dk

Omelet wrote:

>> 30 years ago I took a lunch break and met a co-worker who wasn't scheduled
>> to work that day. We had lunch. She brought her *darling* toddler (I use
>> that term lightly) with her. He proceeded to dip his french fries in
>> ketchup and throw them at me throughout the meal. And all she said to the
>> boy was, "Quit!" and "Cut it out!"
>>
>> I had to go back to work with ketchup all over my blouse. What was I
>> supposed to do, slap the shit out of him? I sure as hell wanted to. I
>> wanted to slap the shit out of her, too! But you can't discipline other
>> peoples children.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I'd have gotten up and left after the second one.
>
> Without a word...

I would have just moved out of the line of fire.

"Goomba" > wrote in message
...
> Omelet wrote:
>
>>> 30 years ago I took a lunch break and met a co-worker who wasn't
>>> scheduled to work that day. We had lunch. She brought her *darling*
>>> toddler (I use that term lightly) with her. He proceeded to dip his
>>> french fries in ketchup and throw them at me throughout the meal. And
>>> all she said to the boy was, "Quit!" and "Cut it out!"
>>>
>>> I had to go back to work with ketchup all over my blouse. What was I
>>> supposed to do, slap the shit out of him? I sure as hell wanted to. I
>>> wanted to slap the shit out of her, too! But you can't discipline other
>>> peoples children.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I'd have gotten up and left after the second one.
>>
>> Without a word...
>
> I would have just moved out of the line of fire.

I never would have accepted the invite to lunch with someone with a rugrat.

brooklyn1 > wrote in message
...
[snip]
> I never would have accepted the invite to lunch with
> someone with a rugrat.

It would never have been tendered so you're safe.

The Ranger

D K wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
>> "The Ranger" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> U.N. > wrote in message
>>>
...
>>>
>>>> Gotta love other people's kids.
>>>
>>> No. You. Don't. (Especially the abberant behaviors as you cited.)
>>>
>>
>> Ranger, what, exactly, are we supposed to DO about other people's
>> kids? Your daughter-units may be perfect little ladies in public but
>> this is certainly not the case with other peoples' children.
>>
>> 30 years ago I took a lunch break and met a co-worker who wasn't
>> scheduled to work that day. We had lunch. She brought her *darling*
>> toddler (I use that term lightly) with her. He proceeded to dip his
>> french fries in ketchup and throw them at me throughout the meal.
>> And all she said to the boy was, "Quit!" and "Cut it out!"
>>
>> I had to go back to work with ketchup all over my blouse. What was I
>> supposed to do, slap the shit out of him? I sure as hell wanted to.
>> I wanted to slap the shit out of her, too! But you can't discipline
>> other peoples children.
>>
>> Jill
>
> A lot of bitching today!


Well, at least *today* she doesn't have to worry about a similar "work"
situation...


--
Best
Greg

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:33:31 -0500, Omelet wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Kalmia > wrote:
>
>> On Jun 16, 6:10*pm, Becca > wrote:
>> I wish they would seat
>>> families on one side of the restaurant. *This way, the parents (or
>>> grandparents) do not feel so uncomfortable when their child gets
>>> restless or starts screeching.
>>
>> They should do more than get uncomfortable. They need to shut that
>> kid UP.
>
> How?

i hear chloroform works well.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:17:27 -0700, "The Ranger"
> wrote:

>brooklyn1 > wrote in message
...
>[snip]
>> I never would have accepted the invite to lunch with
>> someone with a rugrat.
>
>It would never have been tendered so you're safe.
>
What bologna. He's a devoted grandfather, so it's hard to believe
that he's never been out to lunch with his own grandchildren.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:40:00 -0700, The Ranger wrote:

> sf > wrote in message
> ...
> [snip]
>>>> I never would have accepted the invite to lunch with
>>>> someone with a rugrat.
>>>
>>>It would never have been tendered so you're safe.
>>>
>> What bologna. He's a devoted grandfather, so it's
>> hard to believe that he's never been out to lunch with
>> his own grandchildren.
>
> This wasn't his kin inviting him to a luncheon. It was a someone's cow orker
> with her toddler in tow.
>
> You really need to follow along with threads or attempt better
> comprehension.
>
> The Ranger

he didn't qualify 'rugrat' in any way. i wouldn't be so eager to criticize
others' comprehension.

blake

blake murphy > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:40:00 -0700, The Ranger wrote:
>> sf > wrote in message
>> ...
>> [snip]
>>>>> I never would have accepted the invite to lunch with
>>>>> someone with a rugrat.
>>>>
>>>>It would never have been tendered so you're safe.
>>>>
>>> What bologna. He's a devoted grandfather, so it's
>>> hard to believe that he's never been out to lunch with
>>> his own grandchildren.
>>
>> This wasn't his kin inviting him to a luncheon. It was a
>> someone's cow orker with her toddler in tow.
>>
>> You really need to follow along with threads or attempt
>> better comprehension.
>>
> he didn't qualify 'rugrat' in any way. i wouldn't be so eager
> to criticize others' comprehension.

Speaking of too-eager... Your bovine logic is priceless.

The Ranger

fOn Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:27:49 -0700, The Ranger wrote:

> blake murphy > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:40:00 -0700, The Ranger wrote:
>>> sf > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> [snip]
>>>>>> I never would have accepted the invite to lunch with
>>>>>> someone with a rugrat.
>>>>>
>>>>>It would never have been tendered so you're safe.
>>>>>
>>>> What bologna. He's a devoted grandfather, so it's
>>>> hard to believe that he's never been out to lunch with
>>>> his own grandchildren.
>>>
>>> This wasn't his kin inviting him to a luncheon. It was a
>>> someone's cow orker with her toddler in tow.
>>>
>>> You really need to follow along with threads or attempt
>>> better comprehension.
>>>
>> he didn't qualify 'rugrat' in any way. i wouldn't be so eager
>> to criticize others' comprehension.
>
> Speaking of too-eager... Your bovine logic is priceless.
>
> The Ranger

because you were wrong and i said so it's 'bovine logic'? as i recall
sheldon's next post said he wouldn't dine with his own grandchildren,
either.

blake