It was uninspired. Deli potato salad (not bad), cole slaw (not too
bad), chips, pickle spears, roast beast sandwiches with plastic packets
of condiments; bars, cupcakes, and tasty carrot cake. Plastic flatware
that looked like stainless steel, and paper plates and styro coffee
cups. Lutherans are getting a bad name for their funeral luncheons, I
fear. I'm thinking of converting to Judaism‹that was a nice spread.
"-) The deceased? In my heart he'll always be forever young.

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - good news 4-6-2009
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle."
-Philo of Alexandria

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> It was uninspired. Deli potato salad (not bad), cole slaw (not too
> bad), chips, pickle spears, roast beast sandwiches with plastic packets
> of condiments; bars, cupcakes, and tasty carrot cake. Plastic flatware
> that looked like stainless steel, and paper plates and styro coffee
> cups. Lutherans are getting a bad name for their funeral luncheons, I
> fear. I'm thinking of converting to Judaism‹that was a nice spread.
> "-) The deceased? In my heart he'll always be forever young.
>
I'm more familiar with Catholic and Southern Baptist dead spreads and
they're both wonderful.

On Wed 17 Jun 2009 06:17:08p, George Shirley told us...

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> It was uninspired. Deli potato salad (not bad), cole slaw (not too
>> bad), chips, pickle spears, roast beast sandwiches with plastic packets
>> of condiments; bars, cupcakes, and tasty carrot cake. Plastic flatware
>> that looked like stainless steel, and paper plates and styro coffee
>> cups. Lutherans are getting a bad name for their funeral luncheons, I
>> fear. I'm thinking of converting to Judaism‹that was a nice spread.
>> "-) The deceased? In my heart he'll always be forever young.
>>
> I'm more familiar with Catholic and Southern Baptist dead spreads and
> they're both wonderful.
>

I think, in general, that dead spreads in the south are far suuperior to most
other locations. Southerners wouldn't be caught dead with a sub-par dead
spread.

--
Wayne Boatwright
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chemicals, n: Noxious substances from which modern foods are made.
~Author Unknown

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
| It was uninspired. Deli potato salad (not bad), cole slaw (not too
| bad), chips, pickle spears, roast beast sandwiches with plastic packets
| of condiments; bars, cupcakes, and tasty carrot cake. Plastic flatware
| that looked like stainless steel, and paper plates and styro coffee
| cups. Lutherans are getting a bad name for their funeral luncheons, I
| fear. I'm thinking of converting to Judaism | "-) The deceased? In my heart he'll always be
forever young.

Death ain't nothin' without bagels, chopped chicken liver,
cream cheese and smoked salmon.

pavane

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:41:06 -0400, "pavane"
> wrote:

>Death ain't nothin' without bagels, chopped chicken liver,
>cream cheese and smoked salmon.

I still don't understand how people can like smoked salmon. I prefer
lox/gravlax.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

In article >,
"pavane" > wrote:

> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
> | cups. Lutherans are getting a bad name for their funeral luncheons, I
> | fear. I'm thinking of converting to Judaism | "-) The deceased? In my
> | heart he'll always be
> forever young.
>
> Death ain't nothin' without bagels, chopped chicken liver,
> cream cheese and smoked salmon.
>
> pavane

And kugel. Don't forget the kugel.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - good news 4-6-2009
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle."
-Philo of Alexandria

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:15:18 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>It was uninspired. Deli potato salad (not bad), cole slaw (not too
>bad), chips, pickle spears, roast beast sandwiches with plastic packets
>of condiments; bars, cupcakes, and tasty carrot cake. Plastic flatware
>that looked like stainless steel, and paper plates and styro coffee
>cups. Lutherans are getting a bad name for their funeral luncheons, I
>fear. I'm thinking of converting to Judaism‹that was a nice spread.

I floundered around for awhile myself in the quest for a suitable
faith. 30 years ago I happened upon St. Mattress and I've attended
every Sunday since.

>"-) The deceased? In my heart he'll always be forever young.

My dad will be 80 in August. I'm lucky he's lived long enough for me
to see the youth we carry even as we age. Louise in Florida today
celebrating her Dad's 90th. He too has many youthful qualities. I
make caramel corn loaded with nuts and we send it to him. Talk about
a kid with a box of cracker-jack!! I made a 2 gallon bag for her to
take with and used 3 different kinds of nuts. When I talked to her
earlier he was singing like a canary about how good it was. It seems
the worst part of getting old is you're gonna die. <sigh> My dad
still works 6 days a week for 9 months of the year. As much as he
makes me nuts sometimes, I admire him.

Lou

Lou Decruss wrote:
>
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:15:18 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
> >It was uninspired. Deli potato salad (not bad), cole slaw (not too
> >bad), chips, pickle spears, roast beast sandwiches with plastic packets
> >of condiments; bars, cupcakes, and tasty carrot cake. Plastic flatware
> >that looked like stainless steel, and paper plates and styro coffee
> >cups. Lutherans are getting a bad name for their funeral luncheons, I
> >fear. I'm thinking of converting to Judaism‹that was a nice spread.
>
> I floundered around for awhile myself in the quest for a suitable
> faith. 30 years ago I happened upon St. Mattress and I've attended
> every Sunday since.
>
> >"-) The deceased? In my heart he'll always be forever young.
>
> My dad will be 80 in August. I'm lucky he's lived long enough for me
> to see the youth we carry even as we age. Louise in Florida today
> celebrating her Dad's 90th. He too has many youthful qualities. I
> make caramel corn loaded with nuts and we send it to him. Talk about
> a kid with a box of cracker-jack!! I made a 2 gallon bag for her to
> take with and used 3 different kinds of nuts. When I talked to her
> earlier he was singing like a canary about how good it was. It seems
> the worst part of getting old is you're gonna die. <sigh> My dad
> still works 6 days a week for 9 months of the year. As much as he
> makes me nuts sometimes, I admire him.
>
> Lou

Now if only everyone could say the same for their folks and all of their
relatives Such a good world it would be! When I was a youngster &
full of myself, my father forewarned me that he would get ever so
smarter the older I got. Dang it, but he is/was right! Now I dread his
final departure . . . . .

Sky

OBFood Dead Spread: I haven't a clue!

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

On Jun 17, 6:15*pm, Melba's Jammin' >
wrote:
> It was uninspired. *Deli potato salad (not bad), cole slaw (not too
> bad), chips, pickle spears, roast beast sandwiches with plastic packets
> of condiments; bars, cupcakes, and tasty carrot cake. *Plastic flatware
> that looked like stainless steel, and paper plates and styro coffee
> cups. *Lutherans are getting a bad name for their funeral luncheons, I
> fear. *

The Missouri Synod is all about eschewing pleasure, right? If you're
talking ELCA, then maybe it's more a function of Upper Midwest than
Lutheran.

> -Barb, Mother Superior

--Bryan

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 17 Jun 2009 06:17:08p, George Shirley told us...
>
>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>> It was uninspired. Deli potato salad (not bad), cole slaw (not too
>>> bad), chips, pickle spears, roast beast sandwiches with plastic packets
>>> of condiments; bars, cupcakes, and tasty carrot cake. Plastic flatware
>>> that looked like stainless steel, and paper plates and styro coffee
>>> cups. Lutherans are getting a bad name for their funeral luncheons, I
>>> fear. I'm thinking of converting to Judaism‹that was a nice spread.
>>> "-) The deceased? In my heart he'll always be forever young.
>>>
>> I'm more familiar with Catholic and Southern Baptist dead spreads and
>> they're both wonderful.
>>
>
> I think, in general, that dead spreads in the south are far suuperior to most
> other locations. Southerners wouldn't be caught dead with a sub-par dead
> spread.
>
Around here the ladies who supplied a sup-par spread would be ridden out
of town on a rail, covered with tar and feathers.

The parishioners at our church are, in the main, getting on in years. We
have a funeral almost weekly and there's always a dead spread of sorts.
Of late the ladies of the Altar Society provide the food, which means I
do the cooking for the Altar Society lady I'm married to. They seem to
always ask me for specialty breads, don't these women bake anymore?

Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:15:18 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
>> It was uninspired. Deli potato salad (not bad), cole slaw (not too
>> bad), chips, pickle spears, roast beast sandwiches with plastic packets
>> of condiments; bars, cupcakes, and tasty carrot cake. Plastic flatware
>> that looked like stainless steel, and paper plates and styro coffee
>> cups. Lutherans are getting a bad name for their funeral luncheons, I
>> fear. I'm thinking of converting to Judaism‹that was a nice spread.
>
> I floundered around for awhile myself in the quest for a suitable
> faith. 30 years ago I happened upon St. Mattress and I've attended
> every Sunday since.
>
>> "-) The deceased? In my heart he'll always be forever young.
>
> My dad will be 80 in August. I'm lucky he's lived long enough for me
> to see the youth we carry even as we age. Louise in Florida today
> celebrating her Dad's 90th. He too has many youthful qualities. I
> make caramel corn loaded with nuts and we send it to him. Talk about
> a kid with a box of cracker-jack!! I made a 2 gallon bag for her to
> take with and used 3 different kinds of nuts. When I talked to her
> earlier he was singing like a canary about how good it was. It seems
> the worst part of getting old is you're gonna die. <sigh> My dad
> still works 6 days a week for 9 months of the year. As much as he
> makes me nuts sometimes, I admire him.
>
> Lou


Mine went at age 71 with a massive heart attack 27 years ago, I miss him
every day Lou and always admired him. Your dad sounds like a really nice
gentleman.

In article
>,
Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:

> On Jun 17, 6:15*pm, Melba's Jammin' >
> wrote:
> > It was uninspired. *Deli potato salad (not bad), cole slaw (not too
> > bad), chips, pickle spears, roast beast sandwiches with plastic packets
> > of condiments; bars, cupcakes, and tasty carrot cake. *Plastic flatware
> > that looked like stainless steel, and paper plates and styro coffee
> > cups. *Lutherans are getting a bad name for their funeral luncheons, I
> > fear. *
>
> The Missouri Synod is all about eschewing pleasure, right? If you're
> talking ELCA, then maybe it's more a function of Upper Midwest than
> Lutheran.
>
> > -Barb, Mother Superior
>
> --Bryan

I think it's more a function of finding people to cook and serve a
funeral luncheon ‹ most younger women are working outside their homes
and the Old Guard figures they've done their time and someone else can
do it now. Or not, but they're not going to. Health Department laws
might be getting stickier, too.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - good news 4-6-2009
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle."
-Philo of Alexandria

On Jun 17, 7:15Â*pm, Melba's Jammin' >
wrote:
> It was uninspired. Â*Deli potato salad (not bad), cole slaw (not too
> bad), chips, pickle spears, roast beast sandwiches with plastic packets
> of condiments; bars, cupcakes, and tasty carrot cake. Â*Plastic flatware
> that looked like stainless steel, and paper plates and styro coffee
> cups. Â*Lutherans are getting a bad name for their funeral luncheons, I
> fear. Â*I'm thinking of converting to Judaism€¹that was a nice spread. Â*



Gee, when did it become de rigueur to feed the bunch after a funeral?
Or is this a regional thang?

Years ago, it was customary in my area to offer coffee, tea and petit
fours back at the house. Now, it's become a spread for sure at the
funeral parlor, or having the whole bunch at a resto for heavy duty
appetizers and desserts. Did the resto industry work in league with
the funeral directors to promote this? I wonder what's next.

On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:53:59 -0500, George Shirley wrote:
>>
> Around here the ladies who supplied a sup-par spread would be ridden out
> of town on a rail, covered with tar and feathers.
>
> The parishioners at our church are, in the main, getting on in years. We
> have a funeral almost weekly and there's always a dead spread of sorts.
> Of late the ladies of the Altar Society provide the food, which means I
> do the cooking for the Altar Society lady I'm married to. They seem to
> always ask me for specialty breads, don't these women bake anymore?

not if they can bamboozle a man into doing it.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:41:06 -0400, pavane wrote:

> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
> ...
>| It was uninspired. Deli potato salad (not bad), cole slaw (not too
>| bad), chips, pickle spears, roast beast sandwiches with plastic packets
>| of condiments; bars, cupcakes, and tasty carrot cake. Plastic flatware
>| that looked like stainless steel, and paper plates and styro coffee
>| cups. Lutherans are getting a bad name for their funeral luncheons, I
>| fear. I'm thinking of converting to Judaism | "-) The deceased? In my heart he'll always be
> forever young.
>
> Death ain't nothin' without bagels, chopped chicken liver,
> cream cheese and smoked salmon.
>
> pavane

if lunch is gonna be that good, i'm not dying.

your pal,
blake

On Jun 17, 9:13*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:41:06 -0400, "pavane"
>
> > wrote:
> >Death ain't nothin' without bagels, chopped chicken liver,
> >cream cheese and smoked salmon.
>
> I still don't understand how people can like smoked salmon. *I prefer
> lox/gravlax.
>
> --
> I love cooking with wine.
> Sometimes I even put it in the food.

I have had smoked salmon mousse that is killer.

N.

Kalmia wrote:
>
> Gee, when did it become de rigueur to feed the bunch after a funeral?
> Or is this a regional thang?
>
> Years ago, it was customary in my area to offer coffee, tea and petit
> fours back at the house. Now, it's become a spread for sure at the
> funeral parlor, or having the whole bunch at a resto for heavy duty
> appetizers and desserts. Did the resto industry work in league with
> the funeral directors to promote this? I wonder what's next.
>


In today's world where family and friends are far-flung, when people
make the effort to come to a funeral the "dead spread" is a nice way to
reconnect, share memories of the deceased, and catch up with events.

When my mother-in-law passed away her children invited all the memorial
service attendees to lunch in a very nice CT historic "country inn"
style restaurant. She would have LOVED it and the two children had no
problem with paying for the tab from the estate. It was a nice tribute
to her and the way she raised her kids.

gloria p

> do it now. *Or not, but they're not going to. *Health Department laws
> might be getting stickier, too.
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior,


I've never heard of a health department inspecting/interfering in a
church-sponsored food event, no matter what kind it is - coffee &
cookies after a service, or a funeral feast....

N.

Nancy2 wrote on Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:50:07 -0700 (PDT):

> On Jun 17, 9:13 pm, sf > wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:41:06 -0400, "pavane"
>>
>> > wrote:
> >> Death ain't nothin' without bagels, chopped chicken liver,
> >> cream cheese and smoked salmon.
>>
>> I still don't understand how people can like smoked salmon.
>> I prefer lox/gravlax.
>>
>> --
>> I love cooking with wine.
>> Sometimes I even put it in the food.

> I have had smoked salmon mousse that is killer.

Me too, Montezuma would have been proud of it even if the revenge was
not fatal!

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>> I'm more familiar with Catholic and Southern Baptist dead spreads and
>> they're both wonderful.
>>
>
> I think, in general, that dead spreads in the south are far suuperior to most
> other locations. Southerners wouldn't be caught dead with a sub-par dead
> spread.
>
Southern spreads are pretty predictable (yawn)....*Italian* spreads are
the superior ones!

Kalmia wrote:

> Gee, when did it become de rigueur to feed the bunch after a funeral?
> Or is this a regional thang?
>
> Years ago, it was customary in my area to offer coffee, tea and petit
> fours back at the house. Now, it's become a spread for sure at the
> funeral parlor, or having the whole bunch at a resto for heavy duty
> appetizers and desserts. Did the resto industry work in league with
> the funeral directors to promote this? I wonder what's next.
>

Where is your area? I've never been to a service that didn't invite
close friends and the family back to the house afterwards for food and
libations. The only service I've attended where we retired to a deli
restaurant was a Jewish service, if that makes any difference?

"gloria.p" > wrote in message
...

> In today's world where family and friends are far-flung, when people make
> the effort to come to a funeral the "dead spread" is a nice way to
> reconnect, share memories of the deceased, and catch up with events.
>
> When my mother-in-law passed away her children invited all the memorial
> service attendees to lunch in a very nice CT historic "country inn" style
> restaurant. She would have LOVED it and the two children had no problem
> with paying for the tab from the estate. It was a nice tribute to her and
> the way she raised her kids.

I'm with you. We had a splendid back-at-the-house spread after my husband's
memorial service. The Junior Daughter refers to such events as Buffet
Funerals.

Felice

"Goomba" > wrote in message ...
| Kalmia wrote:
|
| > Gee, when did it become de rigueur to feed the bunch after a funeral?
| > Or is this a regional thang?
| >
| > Years ago, it was customary in my area to offer coffee, tea and petit
| > fours back at the house. Now, it's become a spread for sure at the
| > funeral parlor, or having the whole bunch at a resto for heavy duty
| > appetizers and desserts. Did the resto industry work in league with
| > the funeral directors to promote this? I wonder what's next.
| >
|
| Where is your area? I've never been to a service that didn't invite
| close friends and the family back to the house afterwards for food and
| libations. The only service I've attended where we retired to a deli
| restaurant was a Jewish service, if that makes any difference?

Well, it would ensure access to the bagels, chopped chicken liver,
cream cheese and smoked salmon <go>

pavane

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> It was uninspired. Deli potato salad (not bad), cole slaw (not too
> bad), chips, pickle spears, roast beast sandwiches with plastic packets
> of condiments; bars, cupcakes, and tasty carrot cake. Plastic flatware
> that looked like stainless steel, and paper plates and styro coffee
> cups. Lutherans are getting a bad name for their funeral luncheons, I
> fear. I'm thinking of converting to Judaism‹that was a nice spread.
> "-) The deceased? In my heart he'll always be forever young.
>

Sounds depressing which, I suppose, is not inappropriate. We have low
quality sushi at our funerals.

In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> do the cooking for the Altar Society lady I'm married to. They seem to
> always ask me for specialty breads, don't these women bake anymore?

Apparently not. Besides, you've probably skeered 'em off.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - good news 4-6-2009
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle."
-Philo of Alexandria

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> George Shirley > wrote:
>
>> do the cooking for the Altar Society lady I'm married to. They seem to
>> always ask me for specialty breads, don't these women bake anymore?
>
> Apparently not. Besides, you've probably skeered 'em off.
Gawd! I hope so, some of these old ladies are husband hunting again and
they scare me. They try to flirt right in front of DW, she and I both
think it's a hoot. We've been together since we were just little kids as
you know.

George Shirley wrote:

>> Apparently not. Besides, you've probably skeered 'em off.
> Gawd! I hope so, some of these old ladies are husband hunting again and
> they scare me. They try to flirt right in front of DW, she and I both
> think it's a hoot. We've been together since we were just little kids as
> you know.

After my mom passed away, I was SHOCKED by the sheer number of women who
appeared out of the woodwork in the neighborhood to send over supper
long after the public services and family had retreated off!
My dad would set the table for one and eat in his big empty house alone.
He always set it properly (linen or placemat, full set of utensils,
salt/pepper, glasses, etc) just for himself. A proper dinner hour was
important to him. It jus t looked so sad
He remarried within six months (old family friend in TX) and thankfully
they shared 10 or so years before his health failed and he passed on. I
think old-world men like he was just don't know what to do alone....?

In article
>,
Nancy2 > wrote:

> > do it now. *Or not, but they're not going to. *Health Department laws
> > might be getting stickier, too.
> > --
> > -Barb, Mother Superior,
>
>
> I've never heard of a health department inspecting/interfering in a
> church-sponsored food event, no matter what kind it is - coffee &
> cookies after a service, or a funeral feast....
>
> N.

What I meant by that is that some church kitchens (most, I'll bet)
aren't licensed for cooking real food; i.e., food served from the
kitchen was purchased elsewhere (deli trays, cold salads, etc.). The
church I attend is licensed for food prep with all the stainless steel
stuff that's required, and community meals are prepared and served there
regularly but the church's menu for its dead spreads is the sandwich,
chips, slaw, and pickles thang, all purchased; dessert (bars, cake)
comes from congregation members. Did I make that even more confusing?
My thinker's fuzzier than usual right now.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - good news 4-6-2009
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle."
-Philo of Alexandria

"Goomba" > wrote:> think old-world men like he was just
don't know what to do alone....?

Nah, she was probably a hot number.

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> George Shirley >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> George Shirley > wrote:
>>>
>>>> do the cooking for the Altar Society lady I'm married to. They seem
>>>> to always ask me for specialty breads, don't these women bake
>>>> anymore?
>>> Apparently not. Besides, you've probably skeered 'em off.
>> Gawd! I hope so, some of these old ladies are husband hunting again
>> and they scare me. They try to flirt right in front of DW, she and I
>> both think it's a hoot. We've been together since we were just little
>> kids as you know.
>
> Cracks me up I suppose they figure they have nothing to lose by being
> outwardly friendly <G>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
We live in a fairly affluent area Michael, some of these old biddies
have tons of money and investments left to them by the husbands they
wore out early on. They would make a good catch for someone but I would
bet they all want a pre-nup before the wedding.

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article
> >,
> Nancy2 > wrote:
>
>>> do it now. Or not, but they're not going to. Health Department laws
>>> might be getting stickier, too.
>>> --
>>> -Barb, Mother Superior,
>>
>> I've never heard of a health department inspecting/interfering in a
>> church-sponsored food event, no matter what kind it is - coffee &
>> cookies after a service, or a funeral feast....
>>
>> N.
>
> What I meant by that is that some church kitchens (most, I'll bet)
> aren't licensed for cooking real food; i.e., food served from the
> kitchen was purchased elsewhere (deli trays, cold salads, etc.). The
> church I attend is licensed for food prep with all the stainless steel
> stuff that's required, and community meals are prepared and served there
> regularly but the church's menu for its dead spreads is the sandwich,
> chips, slaw, and pickles thang, all purchased; dessert (bars, cake)
> comes from congregation members. Did I make that even more confusing?
> My thinker's fuzzier than usual right now.
Most church kitchen here are set up for food prep and I have yet to see
a state license in one of them. It's that old separation of church and
state thang.

On Jun 18, 10:48*pm, Melba's Jammin' >
wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
> *Nancy2 > wrote:
> > > do it now. *Or not, but they're not going to. *Health Department laws
> > > might be getting stickier, too.
> > > --
> > > -Barb, Mother Superior,
>
> > I've never heard of a health department inspecting/interfering in a
> > church-sponsored food event, no matter what kind it is - coffee &
> > cookies after a service, or a funeral feast....
>
> > N.
>
> What I meant by that is that some church kitchens (most, I'll bet)
> aren't licensed for cooking real food; i.e., food served from the
> kitchen was purchased elsewhere (deli trays, cold salads, etc.). *The
> church I attend is licensed for food prep with all the stainless steel
> stuff that's required, and community meals are prepared and served there
> regularly but the church's menu for its dead spreads is the sandwich,
> chips, slaw, and pickles thang, all purchased; dessert (bars, cake)
> comes from congregation members. * *Did I make that even more confusing? *
> My thinker's fuzzier than usual right now.

Perhaps your state requires such licensing. Missouri does not for
churches. Still, much less cooking from scratch than 15 years ago,
which is sad. Their Thanksgiving thing at "my" church featured pre-
cooked turkeys the past few years. Ick.

> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior

--Bryan

In article
>,
Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:

> On Jun 18, 10:48*pm, Melba's Jammin' >
> wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
(other snipped)
> > What I meant by that is that some church kitchens (most, I'll bet)
> > aren't licensed for cooking real food;
(snip)
>
> Perhaps your state requires such licensing. Missouri does not for
> churches. Still, much less cooking from scratch than 15 years ago,
> which is sad. Their Thanksgiving thing at "my" church featured pre-
> cooked turkeys the past few years. Ick.
> > --
> > -Barb, Mother Superior
>
> --Bryan

Minnesota has, I believe, some stern rules for such things.
Re your church's T-day meal: It's faster and likely less stressful.
Does your church have the ability to cook however many turkeys as were
required? Would there have been enough people from the congregation to
volunteer to prepare, roast from raw, and serve the meal, sides
included? While they might also be concerning themselves with their own
family meals? Sometimes the enjoyment of a meal has less to do with
the food on the plate than with the company at the table.

The church I attend serves pie after the Thanksgiving Eve service.
First time I played, I assumed a boatload of homemade pies. Wrong.
Wrong. Way wrong. I'll bet that fully 3/5 were commercially made ‹ an
awful lot of boxes from Baker's Square and Perkins. :-)
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
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"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle."
-Philo of Alexandria

> regularly but the church's menu for its dead spreads is the sandwich,
> chips, slaw, and pickles thang, all purchased; dessert (bars, cake)
> comes from congregation members. Did I make that even more confusing?
> My thinker's fuzzier than usual right now.
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJhttp://web.me.com/barbschaller-


Oh, I'm confused about a lot of things, but that doesn't stop me ;-)

Barb, do you have a "killer" recipe for "ham balls?" I want to
contribute to the family next door who lost a matriarch this week.

If not, I think I can find one from when my mom died. Thanks.

N.

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
On Jun 17, 7:15 pm, Melba's Jammin' >
wrote:
> It was uninspired. Deli potato salad (not bad), cole slaw (not too
> bad), chips, pickle spears, roast beast sandwiches with plastic packets
> of condiments; bars, cupcakes, and tasty carrot cake. Plastic flatware
> that looked like stainless steel, and paper plates and styro coffee
> cups. Lutherans are getting a bad name for their funeral luncheons, I
> fear. I'm thinking of converting to Judaism€¹that was a nice spread.



Gee, when did it become de rigueur to feed the bunch after a funeral?
Or is this a regional thang?

Years ago, it was customary in my area to offer coffee, tea and petit
fours back at the house. Now, it's become a spread for sure at the
funeral parlor, or having the whole bunch at a resto for heavy duty
appetizers and desserts. Did the resto industry work in league with
the funeral directors to promote this? I wonder what's next.

=============

I don't think I've ever been to a funeral without a dead spread afterwards.
And I've never had a dead spread at a funeral parlor or a "resto." They're
always in the church fellowship hall or somebody's home.

Ms P

On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:13:01 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

>On Jun 17, 7:15*pm, Melba's Jammin' >
>wrote:
>> It was uninspired. *Deli potato salad (not bad), cole slaw (not too
>> bad), chips, pickle spears, roast beast sandwiches with plastic packets
>> of condiments; bars, cupcakes, and tasty carrot cake. *Plastic flatware
>> that looked like stainless steel, and paper plates and styro coffee
>> cups. *Lutherans are getting a bad name for their funeral luncheons, I
>> fear. *I'm thinking of converting to Judaism‹that was a nice spread. *
>
>
>
>Gee, when did it become de rigueur to feed the bunch after a funeral?
>Or is this a regional thang?
>
> Years ago, it was customary in my area to offer coffee, tea and petit
>fours back at the house. Now, it's become a spread for sure at the
>funeral parlor, or having the whole bunch at a resto for heavy duty
>appetizers and desserts. Did the resto industry work in league with
>the funeral directors to promote this? I wonder what's next.


When I was young the food was taken to the family's house and visitors
were invited to eat. We did not stay at the church or cemetery
afterwards.

Now that families are so spread out and the deceased may have spent
the last years at a nursing home, the churches seem to have taken over
the job of "dead spread." I talked to the woman in charge after one
of the lunches and she said that she called people to bring food. I
have no idea if she asked certain people to bring a specific item or
they brought what they wanted. At another funeral coffee, tea,
cookies finger sandwiches and cake were served at the church. I saw
members bringing things in.

I think it depends on the location and the church. I will say that I
have never had a "dead spread" at a restaurant.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

The Cook wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:13:01 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> > wrote:
>
>> On Jun 17, 7:15 pm, Melba's Jammin' >
>> wrote:
>>> It was uninspired. Deli potato salad (not bad), cole slaw (not too
>>> bad), chips, pickle spears, roast beast sandwiches with plastic packets
>>> of condiments; bars, cupcakes, and tasty carrot cake. Plastic flatware
>>> that looked like stainless steel, and paper plates and styro coffee
>>> cups. Lutherans are getting a bad name for their funeral luncheons, I
>>> fear. I'm thinking of converting to Judaism‹that was a nice spread.
>>
>>
>> Gee, when did it become de rigueur to feed the bunch after a funeral?
>> Or is this a regional thang?
>>
>> Years ago, it was customary in my area to offer coffee, tea and petit
>> fours back at the house. Now, it's become a spread for sure at the
>> funeral parlor, or having the whole bunch at a resto for heavy duty
>> appetizers and desserts. Did the resto industry work in league with
>> the funeral directors to promote this? I wonder what's next.
>
>
> When I was young the food was taken to the family's house and visitors
> were invited to eat. We did not stay at the church or cemetery
> afterwards.
>
> Now that families are so spread out and the deceased may have spent
> the last years at a nursing home, the churches seem to have taken over
> the job of "dead spread." I talked to the woman in charge after one
> of the lunches and she said that she called people to bring food. I
> have no idea if she asked certain people to bring a specific item or
> they brought what they wanted. At another funeral coffee, tea,
> cookies finger sandwiches and cake were served at the church. I saw
> members bringing things in.
>
> I think it depends on the location and the church. I will say that I
> have never had a "dead spread" at a restaurant.
For MIL's memorial the dead spread was held at a local restaurant and
her old friends and family were invited. The siblings, including my DW,
paid the tab out of their inheritance. She was cremated within two days
of dying and then the ashes were interred in FIL's grave site by the
kids. She died in March this year and would have been 101 years old if
she had made it to October of this year.

The restaurant chosen had been designed and the building of it
supervised by FIL, an architect. MIL was a well known local fine artist
and a number of her paintings and drawings were hung around the private
dining room. A memorial booklet had a comic drawing that MIL had done of
herself as the frontispiece and high lights of her long life inside
along with various pictures. DW said it was a fitting tribute for her
Mom and one that all enjoyed.

Nancy2 said:
I've never heard of a health department inspecting/interfering in a
church-sponsored food event, no matter what kind it is - coffee &
cookies after a service, or a funeral feast....
-------------------------------------------------
Our church kitchen has regular board of health inspections just like a
restaurant. They check the temps of the dishwashers, closely inspect
the commercial sinks and have told us that we can't wash dishes in our
"regular" sinks. We have an island with double stainless steel sinks
just like a house, but all we can do is wash our hands in it, no dishes.
Our commercial sinks are so deep that most of the little old ladies from
the church can't even use them. We are expected to use the dishwashers,
but that's a pain if all you're washing are a few forks or coffee cups.

We do bereavement meals and church suppers all the time.

Denise

Denise in NH wrote:

> Our church kitchen has regular board of health inspections just like a
> restaurant. They check the temps of the dishwashers, closely inspect
> the commercial sinks and have told us that we can't wash dishes in our
> "regular" sinks. We have an island with double stainless steel sinks
> just like a house, but all we can do is wash our hands in it, no
> dishes. Our commercial sinks are so deep that most of the little old
> ladies from the church can't even use them. We are expected to use
> the dishwashers, but that's a pain if all you're washing are a few
> forks or coffee cups.

Our church has the same type of inspection process. A couple of years ago
when the new church building was being built, I helped write up the
application and the menu plan for our health district permitting process.
--
Dave
What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before
you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> George Shirley >
> news >
>> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>>> George Shirley > news:4yM_l.13020$Xl4.12226
>>> @bignews5.bellsouth.net: in rec.food.cooking
>>>
>>>> We live in a fairly affluent area Michael, some of these old biddies
>>>> have tons of money and investments left to them by the husbands they
>>>> wore out early on. They would make a good catch for someone but I
>>>> would bet they all want a pre-nup before the wedding.
>>> As you know my aunt is a Baton Rouge belle. She's in her early 70s.
>>> My uncle is still living. If he were to die (and I hope he never
>>> does because he's a riot), she would be one of the rich old biddies
>>> you speak of. She cracks me up. Whenever Steven and I visit she
>>> always throws a big party. She introduces us in the old fashioned
>>> way, "This is my nephew Michael and his partner Steven. They are
>>> visiting us from St. Louis". She intentionally leaves out the "life"
>>> part out of partner. I remember someone asked her what business
>>> Steven and I are in and her response was something like, "Why darling
>>> they are not commercially involved. They're just a bit eccentric".
>>> Eccentric meaning *** Gotta love those southerners.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> If you lived in Baton Rouge she would probably hide you in her attic
>> along with the other "eccentric" relatives. That, too, is a southern
>> habit.
>
> I doubt it. She would be more inclined to sit us, and the other
> eccentrics, in the living room as display pieces.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
She's a keeper then.