I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.

Tom

said...

> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.


Stupid post of the year nominee!!!

> wrote in message
...
>I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
> Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
> Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.
>

Milk, tea or coffee. That's it for me.

Paul

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> said...
>
>> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
>> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
>
>
> Stupid post of the year nominee!!!

For Sale, Cheap! One broken irony meter. Needle spun right off.

Paco said...

>
>
> "Andy" > wrote in message ...
>> said...
>>
>>> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
>>> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
>>
>>
>> Stupid post of the year nominee!!!
>
> For Sale, Cheap! One broken irony meter. Needle spun right off.


OK, Paco el Taco, YOU win the stupid post of the year!

In article
>,
" > wrote:

> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
> Tom

Milk or coffee.


--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
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"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle."
-Philo of Alexandria

Andy said...

> said...
>
>> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
>> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.


Who in their right mind, in their entire life, actually gave it any thought?

Paul, Paco and Melba!

Andy

Tom wrote:

> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
> Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
> Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.

Depends on what kind of cake and frosting comprise the birthday cake. A
lemony cake would go well with some kind of lemon soda (e.g., Sprite or
7-Up). It would also go all right with iced tea. A chocolate cake (or yellow
cake with chocolate frosting) would go well with coffee, milk, orange soda
(or orange-flavored fruit punch), or a White Russian. A banana cake would go
well with a piña colada, chocolate milk, or rum & coke.

Did you have some specific cake and icing in mind?

Bob

On Jul 14, 4:38*pm, " >
wrote:
> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
> Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
> Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.
>
The last time it mattered to me I was eight and asked for Hawaiian
punch, which they made from syrup. It was perfect. The only one who
can answer the question is the birthday boy or girl. -aem

wrote:
> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
> Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
> Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.
>
> Tom


I agree with milk, coffee, or water with cake.

When I was very young I liked sips of beer with chocolate cake.
Now not so much.

gloria p

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> Paco said...
>
>>
>>
>> "Andy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> said...
>>>
>>>> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
>>>> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
>>>
>>>
>>> Stupid post of the year nominee!!!
>>
>> For Sale, Cheap! One broken irony meter. Needle spun right off.
>
>
> OK, Paco el Taco, YOU win the stupid post of the year!

Why, thank you, Andy. You flatter me. However, I am not worthy of such a
prestigious award. My post pales in comparison to some of the "gems" that
have been authored by "others".

On Tue 14 Jul 2009 08:16:21p, Gloria P told us...

> wrote:
>> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
>> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
>> Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
>> Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.
>>
>> Tom
>
>
> I agree with milk, coffee, or water with cake.

For everyone else, I agree, but for me it would always be unsweetened iced
tea.

> When I was very young I liked sips of beer with chocolate cake.
> Now not so much.

If I have it on hand, I always drink buttermilk with chocolate cake,
particularly German's Chocolate Cake.

Having said that, when I was in college I can remember having many a
chocolate ice cream soda made with beer.

> gloria p
>



--
Wayne Boatwright
------------------------------------------------------------------------
A good meal ought to begin with hunger. ~French proverb

> wrote:

> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
> Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
> Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.

I do not normally eat any kind of sweet cake if I can help it, but
sometimes I am compelled to have a bite, to appease a particularly
vicious birthday girl or boy. A sparkling Moscato d'Asti or even a good
Asti Spumante would go very well with many kinds of cakes and other
desserts. Depending on the cake, the right kind of beer can be the best
thing to accompany it. An Imperial stout (especially with chocolate- or
coffee-based cakes or desserts) or a fruit-based beer, such as a Belgian
framboise or kriek are definitely to be considered. In both cases, wine
and beer, it is not just their particular flavours that make them work -
it is also their palate-cleansing carbonation.

Victor

"Victor Sack" > wrote in message
. ..
> > wrote:
>
>> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
>> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
>> Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
>> Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.
>
> I do not normally eat any kind of sweet cake if I can help it, but
> sometimes I am compelled to have a bite, to appease a particularly
> vicious birthday girl or boy. A sparkling Moscato d'Asti or even a good
> Asti Spumante would go very well with many kinds of cakes and other
> desserts. Depending on the cake, the right kind of beer can be the best
> thing to accompany it. An Imperial stout (especially with chocolate- or
> coffee-based cakes or desserts) or a fruit-based beer, such as a Belgian
> framboise or kriek are definitely to be considered. In both cases, wine
> and beer, it is not just their particular flavours that make them work -
> it is also their palate-cleansing carbonation.
>

Nah, milk or coffee or tea.

> ha scritto nel messaggio

>I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
> Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
> Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.
>
> Tom

Champagne. It's an inspired pairing, really.

Victor Sack wrote:

> I do not normally eat any kind of sweet cake if I can help it, but
> sometimes I am compelled to have a bite, to appease a particularly
> vicious birthday girl or boy. A sparkling Moscato d'Asti or even a
> good Asti Spumante would go very well with many kinds of cakes and
> other desserts.

I was going to post the same exact thing. If the cake has cream and/or
custard, then Asti is the perfect pairing.
And if the cake has good "deepness" of tastes, then even a raisin wine would
do well, I'm thinking of Moscato di Pantelleria, Passito di Pantelleria but
also raisin wines from the north, alas harder to find, as Loazzolo.
--
Vilco
Mai guardare Trailer park Boys senza
qualcosa da bere a portata di mano

wrote:
>> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
>> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
>> Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
>> Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.
>>
>> Tom
>
>
For mature adults the most popular universally acceptible beverage to serve
and consume with a celebratory cake, and more so than all others combined,
is Champagne. The last time I was offered milk and/or a soft drink with
birthday cake the celebrant was like five years old. Coffee and tea would
typically be served after the cake ceremony. I've never seen where mature
adults were offered milk at a celebratory affair except in a psychiatric
institution. You are obviously infantile and/or not well.

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:38:38 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
> Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
> Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.
>
> Tom

that's an easy one. drink a beer and skip the cake.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:59:19 -0400, Paco wrote:

> "Andy" > wrote in message ...
>> said...
>>
>>> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
>>> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
>>
>> Stupid post of the year nominee!!!
>
> For Sale, Cheap! One broken irony meter. Needle spun right off.

andy is well-versed in the genre.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:12:39 -0500, Andy wrote:

> Andy said...
>
>> said...
>>
>>> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
>>> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
>
> Who in their right mind, in their entire life, actually gave it any thought?
>
> Paul, Paco and Melba!
>
> Andy

by all means, let's get back to something important like what you had for
breakfast.

blake

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:03:54 GMT, brooklyn1 wrote:

> wrote:
>>> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
>>> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
>>> Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
>>> Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>
>>
> For mature adults the most popular universally acceptible beverage to serve
> and consume with a celebratory cake, and more so than all others combined,
> is Champagne. The last time I was offered milk and/or a soft drink with
> birthday cake the celebrant was like five years old. Coffee and tea would
> typically be served after the cake ceremony. I've never seen where mature
> adults were offered milk at a celebratory affair except in a psychiatric
> institution. You are obviously infantile and/or not well.

you listen to doctor sheldon, tom. he knows from psychiatric institutions.

blake

On Jul 15, 9:03*am, "brooklyn1" > wrote:
> wrote:
> >> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
> >> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
> >> Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
> >> Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.
>
> >> Tom
>
> For mature adults the most popular universally acceptible beverage to serve
> and consume with a celebratory cake, and more so than all others combined,
> is Champagne. *The last time I was offered milk and/or a soft drink with
> birthday cake the celebrant was like five years old. *Coffee and tea would
> typically be served after the cake ceremony. *I've never seen where mature
> adults were offered milk at a celebratory affair except in a psychiatric
> institution. *You are obviously infantile and/or not well.

===================================
If said cake were a big chocolate layer cake with fudge icing, I
would offer guests a choice including ice cold whole milk. (plus
coffee, tea and champagne.)
Lynn in Fargo

On Jul 14, 6:38*pm, " >
wrote:
> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
> Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
> Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.

Whole milk or coffee. The hot chocolate might be OK.
>
> Tom

--Bryan

On Jul 15, 10:25*am, Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig >
wrote:
> On Jul 15, 9:03*am, "brooklyn1" > wrote:
>
> > wrote:
> > >> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
> > >> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
> > >> Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
> > >> Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.
>
> > >> Tom
>
> > For mature adults the most popular universally acceptible beverage to serve
> > and consume with a celebratory cake, and more so than all others combined,
> > is Champagne. *The last time I was offered milk and/or a soft drink with
> > birthday cake the celebrant was like five years old. *Coffee and tea would
> > typically be served after the cake ceremony. *I've never seen where mature
> > adults were offered milk at a celebratory affair except in a psychiatric
> > institution. *You are obviously infantile and/or not well.
>
> ===================================
> If said cake were a big chocolate layer cake with fudge icing, *I
> would offer guests a choice including ice cold whole milk. *(plus
> coffee, tea and champagne.)

Oh, if it is chocolate cake, then the "ice cold whole milk" is for
sure, and I wouldn't eat the cake without it. I've never been in a
nuthouse, but it's nice to know that they serve the patients milk.
Cookies should also be served with milk and coffee as choices, but
especially milk. Anyone who thinks that milk is unsuitable for adults
(except those who are intolerant or low-carbing) is nuts.

> Lynn in Fargo

--Bryan

Gloria P wrote:
>
> When I was very young I liked sips of beer with chocolate cake.
> Now not so much.
>
> gloria p

One of my friends would eat onions with chocolate cake. I thought that
was odd.


Becca

cybercat wrote:

> "Victor Sack" wrote in message
> . ..
>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
> >>with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
> >>Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
> >>Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.
> >
> >I do not normally eat any kind of sweet cake if I can help it, but
> >sometimes I am compelled to have a bite, to appease a particularly
> >vicious birthday girl or boy. A sparkling Moscato d'Asti or even a good
> >Asti Spumante would go very well with many kinds of cakes and other
> >desserts. Depending on the cake, the right kind of beer can be the best
> >thing to accompany it. An Imperial stout (especially with chocolate- or
> >coffee-based cakes or desserts) or a fruit-based beer, such as a Belgian
> >framboise or kriek are definitely to be considered. In both cases, wine
> >and beer, it is not just their particular flavours that make them work -
> >it is also their palate-cleansing carbonation.
> >
>
>
> Nah, milk or coffee or tea.
>
>
One of my favortie snacks is a slice of chocolate cake, wih chocolate
frosting, served with a side of chocolate ice cream, dripping in
chocolate syrup and served with a cup of Abulita hot chocolate

If i have enough left over hard chocolate i like to shave off a bit for
sprinkles for the chocolate ice cream.

A cup of good strong coffe with a big chunk of hard chocolate melted in
is is an acceptable substitute for the Abulita (Mexican chocolate drink).

Of course, just to saty topical, a bit of port with the chocolate is
very nice also
--
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky.../sf_anthem.mp3

On Jul 15, 12:27*pm, Becca > wrote:
> Gloria P wrote:
>
> > When I was very young I liked sips of beer with chocolate cake.
> > Now not so much.
>
> > gloria p
>
> One of my friends would eat onions with chocolate cake. *I thought that
> was odd.

That is odd.
>
> Becca

--Bryan

> >> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
> >> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
>
> > Stupid post of the year nominee!!!
>
> For Sale, Cheap! *One broken irony meter. *Needle spun right off.

You crack me up....comment is right on target. ;-)

N.

ViLco > wrote:

> And if the cake has good "deepness" of tastes, then even a raisin wine would
> do well, I'm thinking of Moscato di Pantelleria, Passito di Pantelleria but
> also raisin wines from the north, alas harder to find, as Loazzolo.

I'd say that the wines you mention, as well as some others in this vein,
such as Vin Santo (particularly from Tuscany if made with the "passito"
method), Torcolato and Acininobili by Maculan (Breganze DOC, Veneto),
and also such fortified wines (vini liquorosi) as Dulcis by Lungarotti
(Umbria) - very generally speaking - do not really go all that well with
desserts, unless specifically matched with particular ones. They are
better drunk on their own, maybe accompanied by biscotti or similar, at
most. Otherwise, the desserts and the wines tend to "interfere" with
rather than complement each other. I'd say that this applies to most
"dessert" wines.

Victor

" wrote:
>
> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
> Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
> Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.
>
> Tom

Depends on the cake. A good champagne is always welcome if the cake is
decent Otherwise black coffee or water. Unsugared iced tea works too,
if it's strong enough.

> wrote in message
...
>I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
> Soft drinks do not taste good, nor does iced tea or hot chocolate.
> Mixed drinks, beer and wine also seem like a poor choice.
>
> Tom

Kahlua
Black Russian
White Russian
Irish Cream and Vodka

Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
> On Jul 15, 10:25 am, Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig >
> wrote:
>
> Oh, if it is chocolate cake, then the "ice cold whole milk" is for
> sure, and I wouldn't eat the cake without it. I've never been in a
> nuthouse, but it's nice to know that they serve the patients milk.
> Cookies should also be served with milk and coffee as choices, but
> especially milk. Anyone who thinks that milk is unsuitable for adults
> (except those who are intolerant or low-carbing) is nuts.
>
>> Lynn in Fargo



I think if more adults drank milk regularly, fewer old ladies
would suffer from osteoporosis and broken hips and fewer old
guys would require hip replacement surgery.

I gave up milk for quite a long time and developed problems
with it as a result, but lactase helps a lot.

gloria p.

"Gloria P" > wrote
>
> I gave up milk for quite a long time and developed problems
> with it as a result, but lactase helps a lot.
>
I've never liked milk as a beverage except ice cold with brownies and such,
but I eat cheese, yogurt, and sour cream daily, "light" versions of the
latter two, full fat on the cheese. I also use a version of skim milk in my
coffee--so-called "fat free" half and half. It's pretty good.

On Jul 15, 10:35*pm, "cyberpurrs" > wrote:
> "Gloria P" > wrote
>
> > I gave up milk for quite a long time and developed problems
> > with it as a result, but lactase helps a lot.
>
> I've never liked milk as a beverage except ice cold with brownies and such,
> but I eat cheese, yogurt, and sour cream daily, "light" versions of the
> latter two, full fat on the cheese. I also use a version of skim milk in my
> coffee--so-called "fat free" half and half. It's pretty good.

It's crap, and you're dumb enough to pay for it. Look at the
ingredients:

Nonfat Milk, Corn Syrup, Cream (Adds a Trivial Amount of Fat)
Artificial Color (an Ingredient Not Normally Found in Half & Half)
Sodium Citrate, Dipotassium Phosphate, Mono & Diglycerides (Adds a
Trivial Amount of Fat)Carrageenan, Vitamin A Palmitate.
source-- http://www.zeer.com/Food-Products/La...Half/000027222

What's pathetic is that fools pay half&half prices for sugared-up skim
milk with added chemicals.
P.T. Barnum was right.

--Bryan

Victor Sack wrote:

>> And if the cake has good "deepness" of tastes, then even a raisin
>> wine would do well, I'm thinking of Moscato di Pantelleria, Passito
>> di Pantelleria but also raisin wines from the north, alas harder to
>> find, as Loazzolo.
>
> I'd say that the wines you mention, as well as some others in this
> vein, such as Vin Santo (particularly from Tuscany if made with the
> "passito" method), Torcolato and Acininobili by Maculan (Breganze
> DOC, Veneto),

Both tested and liked, even the Dindarello, also by Maculan. Very good
winery.

> and also such fortified wines (vini liquorosi) as
> Dulcis by Lungarotti (Umbria) - very generally speaking - do not
> really go all that well with desserts, unless specifically matched
> with particular ones.

In fact I specified that the cake must have a certain deepness, regarding
taste.

> They are better drunk on their own, maybe
> accompanied by biscotti or similar, at most. Otherwise, the desserts
> and the wines tend to "interfere" with rather than complement each
> other. I'd say that this applies to most "dessert" wines.

Interference between a good Passito di Pantelleria and a glazed cake? I
can't see none. Vene if there's cream (where I have suggested a sparkler
like Moscato d'Asti) there would be no major issues. OTOH I like to drink
these wines alone, as if they were a course of the meal.
Cantuccini must be eaten with vinsanto because they're damn too hard to eat
as they are, and biscotti don't match up well with so sweet wines.
--
Vilco
Mai guardare Trailer park Boys senza
qualcosa da bere a portata di mano

ViLco > wrote:

> Victor Sack wrote:
> >
> > I'd say that the wines you mention, as well as some others in this
> > vein, such as Vin Santo (particularly from Tuscany if made with the
> > "passito" method), Torcolato and Acininobili by Maculan (Breganze
> > DOC, Veneto),
>
> Both tested and liked, even the Dindarello, also by Maculan. Very good
> winery.

Yes, and their dry wines can also be very good, though the cheaper ones
can be a bit generic.

> In fact I specified that the cake must have a certain deepness, regarding
> taste.

Deepness alone is not enough - the flavours have to be just right for a
particular wine, as far as I am concerned.

> Interference between a good Passito di Pantelleria and a glazed cake? I
> can't see none.

Most any cake can be glazed. It is the flavours of the whole cake that
matter.

All of this is ultimately a question of individual taste and opinion, so
no sense arguing about it.

> Vene if there's cream (where I have suggested a sparkler
> like Moscato d'Asti) there would be no major issues.

I'd say Moscato d'Asti or good Asti Spumante are virtually the only
wines able to match just about any cake or dessert.

> OTOH I like to drink
> these wines alone, as if they were a course of the meal.
> Cantuccini must be eaten with vinsanto because they're damn too hard to eat
> as they are, and biscotti don't match up well with so sweet wines.

Biscotti are at least pretty neutral in taste and do not interfere.

Victor

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:58:41 +0200, Victor Sack wrote:

> ViLco > wrote:
>
>> Interference between a good Passito di Pantelleria and a glazed cake? I
>> can't see none.
>
> Most any cake can be glazed. It is the flavours of the whole cake that
> matter.
>
> All of this is ultimately a question of individual taste and opinion, so
> no sense arguing about it.
>

jeez, there goes the newsgroup.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy > wrote in
:

> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:58:41 +0200, Victor Sack wrote:
>
>> All of this is ultimately a question of individual taste and opinion, so
>> no sense arguing about it.
>
> jeez, there goes the newsgroup.

Wait, did someone just say cooking is all about taste??? What utter
nonsense! Cooking is about engaging strangers in long-winded discussions
about the merits of tis product of the meaning of that term. Who ARE these
heretical Big Endians anyway? I say burn them all at the stake for their
failure to break their boiled egg on the little end!

--

Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
good of everyone. - John Maynard Keynes

Andy wrote:
> Paco said...
>
>>
>> "Andy" > wrote in message ...
>>> said...
>>>
>>>> I am wondering what people have to drink when they eat birthday cake
>>>> with icing. The only things I can tolerate is milk, coffee or water.
>>>
>>> Stupid post of the year nominee!!!
>> For Sale, Cheap! One broken irony meter. Needle spun right off.
>
>
> OK, Paco el Taco, YOU win the stupid post of the year!
you get the brainless plonked no good at it troll of the minute
you sport are an unintelligent wannabe with little between your ears
but your boyfriends privates

atec 7 7 said...

>> OK, Paco el Taco, YOU win the stupid post of the year!
> you get the brainless plonked no good at it troll of the minute
> you sport are an unintelligent wannabe with little between your ears
> but your boyfriends privates


Trying to change my life? HA!!!

Ain't gonna happen.

I'll change yours, should when we meet.

Andy