I went to the farm market last night and got
2 pints of black raspberries. Stopped at the
store and got heavy cream. Had black raspberries
with cream for dessert last night.

Also, go my first corn of the season. And lovely
green beans and potatoes. I'm going to make one of
my favorite dishes. It doesn't have a name. My
great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
a pot. The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
you don't even need to add salt. It's real comfort
food. Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
years.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Kate Connally wrote:
> I went to the farm market last night and got
> 2 pints of black raspberries. Stopped at the
> store and got heavy cream. Had black raspberries
> with cream for dessert last night.
>
> Also, go my first corn of the season. And lovely
> green beans and potatoes. I'm going to make one of
> my favorite dishes. It doesn't have a name. My
> great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
> potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
> a pot. The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
> you don't even need to add salt. It's real comfort
> food. Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
> years.
>
> Kate
>

I've never heard of black raspberries... I now have a new jonsing thanks
to you :-)

Bob

Bob Muncie wrote:
> Kate Connally wrote:
>> I went to the farm market last night and got
>> 2 pints of black raspberries. Stopped at the
>> store and got heavy cream. Had black raspberries
>> with cream for dessert last night.
>>
>> Also, go my first corn of the season. And lovely
>> green beans and potatoes. I'm going to make one of
>> my favorite dishes. It doesn't have a name. My
>> great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
>> potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
>> a pot. The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
>> you don't even need to add salt. It's real comfort
>> food. Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
>> years.
>>
>> Kate
>>
>
> I've never heard of black raspberries... I now have a new jonsing thanks
> to you :-)
>
> Bob


I grew red raspberries a few years ago. They were such pitiful
nearly-tasteless imitations of blackberries, I pulled them up after a
couple of years cuz they weren't worth picking. They might have been OK
if I'd never tasted a blackberry.

Someone brought red Jello with black raspberries in it to a company
picnic today. I'd never had black raspberries (a.k.a. "black-caps")
before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen. They
are a pretty *good* imitation of a blackberry! Something new I need to
plant now...

Bob

zxcvbob wrote:
> Bob Muncie wrote:
>> Kate Connally wrote:
>>> I went to the farm market last night and got
>>> 2 pints of black raspberries. Stopped at the
>>> store and got heavy cream. Had black raspberries
>>> with cream for dessert last night.
>>>
>>> Also, go my first corn of the season. And lovely
>>> green beans and potatoes. I'm going to make one of
>>> my favorite dishes. It doesn't have a name. My
>>> great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
>>> potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
>>> a pot. The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
>>> you don't even need to add salt. It's real comfort
>>> food. Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
>>> years.
>>>
>>> Kate
>>>
>>
>> I've never heard of black raspberries... I now have a new jonsing
>> thanks to you :-)
>>
>> Bob
>
>
> I grew red raspberries a few years ago. They were such pitiful
> nearly-tasteless imitations of blackberries, I pulled them up after a
> couple of years cuz they weren't worth picking. They might have been OK
> if I'd never tasted a blackberry.

It might depend on the variety. We were cycling on the canal trail along
the Delaware river last year and saw a huge cluster of red raspberries
that were incredibly tasty. It was also interesting to hear the passerby
comments "you're eating THOSE THINGS!", "what are they?, you can't just
eat stuff like that".

There is an old industrial site near here that has hundreds of
blackberry plants. I would normally have picked a couple gallons by now
but the blossoms got stunted by the frequent rains and cold weather so
there is no fruit to be found.

>
> Someone brought red Jello with black raspberries in it to a company
> picnic today. I'd never had black raspberries (a.k.a. "black-caps")
> before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen. They
> are a pretty *good* imitation of a blackberry! Something new I need to
> plant now...
>
> Bob

Kate Connally wrote:
> Also, go my first corn of the season. And lovely
> green beans and potatoes. I'm going to make one of
> my favorite dishes. It doesn't have a name. My
> great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
> potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
> a pot. The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
> you don't even need to add salt. It's real comfort
> food. Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
> years.
>
> Kate

My mother would cook fresh green beans with ham and small, new potatoes.
You are right, it is comfort food. Another favorite was okra & tomatoes
with elbow macaroni. I should tell her how much I enjoyed her cooking
while she is still with us.


Becca

zxcvbob wrote:
> Bob Muncie wrote:
>> Kate Connally wrote:
>>> I went to the farm market last night and got
>>> 2 pints of black raspberries. Stopped at the
>>> store and got heavy cream. Had black raspberries
>>> with cream for dessert last night.
>>>
>>> Also, go my first corn of the season. And lovely
>>> green beans and potatoes. I'm going to make one of
>>> my favorite dishes. It doesn't have a name. My
>>> great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
>>> potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
>>> a pot. The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
>>> you don't even need to add salt. It's real comfort
>>> food. Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
>>> years.
>>>
>>> Kate
>>>
>>
>> I've never heard of black raspberries... I now have a new jonsing
>> thanks to you :-)
>>
>> Bob
>
>
> I grew red raspberries a few years ago. They were such pitiful
> nearly-tasteless imitations of blackberries, I pulled them up after a
> couple of years cuz they weren't worth picking. They might have been OK
> if I'd never tasted a blackberry.
>
> Someone brought red Jello with black raspberries in it to a company
> picnic today. I'd never had black raspberries (a.k.a. "black-caps")
> before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen. They
> are a pretty *good* imitation of a blackberry! Something new I need to
> plant now...
>
> Bob

I'm there with you Bob.

Grow a few for me. :-)

If I find them locally, I will make an effort to keep them a live.

Bob

Kate Connally wrote:
> I went to the farm market last night and got
> 2 pints of black raspberries. Stopped at the
> store and got heavy cream. Had black raspberries
> with cream for dessert last night.
>
> Also, go my first corn of the season. And lovely
> green beans and potatoes. I'm going to make one of
> my favorite dishes. It doesn't have a name. My
> great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
> potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
> a pot. The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
> you don't even need to add salt. It's real comfort
> food. Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
> years.
>
> Kate
>
I just finished eating some black raspberries. They were divine!
I almost never see them here, but found some at a tiny farmstand.

--
Jean B.

zxcvbob wrote:
> Bob Muncie wrote:
>> Kate Connally wrote:
>>> I went to the farm market last night and got
>>> 2 pints of black raspberries. Stopped at the
>>> store and got heavy cream. Had black raspberries
>>> with cream for dessert last night.
>>>
>>> Also, go my first corn of the season. And lovely
>>> green beans and potatoes. I'm going to make one of
>>> my favorite dishes. It doesn't have a name. My
>>> great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
>>> potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
>>> a pot. The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
>>> you don't even need to add salt. It's real comfort
>>> food. Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
>>> years.
>>>
>>> Kate
>>>
>>
>> I've never heard of black raspberries... I now have a new jonsing
>> thanks to you :-)
>>
>> Bob
>
>
> I grew red raspberries a few years ago. They were such pitiful
> nearly-tasteless imitations of blackberries, I pulled them up after a
> couple of years cuz they weren't worth picking. They might have been OK
> if I'd never tasted a blackberry.
>
> Someone brought red Jello with black raspberries in it to a company
> picnic today. I'd never had black raspberries (a.k.a. "black-caps")
> before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen. They
> are a pretty *good* imitation of a blackberry! Something new I need to
> plant now...
>
> Bob

Gee, I find black raspberries to be quite different from blackberries.

--
Jean B.

George wrote:
> It might depend on the variety.

Or maybe it depends on whether they are store-bought or wild
(which probably also goes back to variety, as you say.)

We were cycling on the canal trail along
> the Delaware river last year and saw a huge cluster of red raspberries
> that were incredibly tasty. It was also interesting to hear the passerby
> comments "you're eating THOSE THINGS!", "what are they?, you can't just
> eat stuff like that".

That's just sad. I am very cautious re eating things I happen
upon, but I have no qualms about these types of things.
>
> There is an old industrial site near here that has hundreds of
> blackberry plants. I would normally have picked a couple gallons by now
> but the blossoms got stunted by the frequent rains and cold weather so
> there is no fruit to be found.
>
>>
>> Someone brought red Jello with black raspberries in it to a company
>> picnic today. I'd never had black raspberries (a.k.a. "black-caps")
>> before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen.
>> They are a pretty *good* imitation of a blackberry! Something new I
>> need to plant now...
>>
>> Bob


--
Jean B.

On Jul 15, 3:16*pm, Kate Connally > wrote:
> I went to the farm market last night and got
> 2 pints of black raspberries. *Stopped at the
> store and got heavy cream. *Had black raspberries
> with cream for dessert last night.
>
> Also, go my first corn of the season. *And lovely
> green beans and potatoes. *I'm going to make one of
> my favorite dishes. *It doesn't have a name. *My
> great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
> potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
> a pot. *The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
> you don't even need to add salt. *It's real comfort
> food. *Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
> years.

I make the same thing, but with crumbled crispy-fried bacon instead of
ham. I'm just not a big ham fan, but three ingredients is a nice
number, and those who like ham (and potatoes and green beans of
course) would have to love your great aunt's dish.
>
> Kate
>
> --
> Kate Connally

--Bryan

On Jul 15, 3:28*pm, Bob Muncie > wrote:
> Kate Connally wrote:
> > I went to the farm market last night and got
> > 2 pints of black raspberries. *Stopped at the
> > store and got heavy cream. *Had black raspberries
> > with cream for dessert last night.
>
> > Also, go my first corn of the season. *And lovely
> > green beans and potatoes. *I'm going to make one of
> > my favorite dishes. *It doesn't have a name. *My
> > great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
> > potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
> > a pot. *The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
> > you don't even need to add salt. *It's real comfort
> > food. *Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
> > years.
>
> > Kate
>
> I've never heard of black raspberries... I now have a new jonsing thanks
> to you :-)

We grow them. We usually get a few pints, cumulatively. They almost
never make it into the house. If you have a yard with any sun, they
are easy to grow.
I just did a quick search:
http://www.atomicmall.com/view.php?id=115583
Maybe you could get a better price.
>
> Bob

--Bryan

Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
> On Jul 15, 3:16 pm, Kate Connally > wrote:
>> I went to the farm market last night and got
>> 2 pints of black raspberries. Stopped at the
>> store and got heavy cream. Had black raspberries
>> with cream for dessert last night.
>>
>> Also, go my first corn of the season. And lovely
>> green beans and potatoes. I'm going to make one of
>> my favorite dishes. It doesn't have a name. My
>> great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
>> potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
>> a pot. The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
>> you don't even need to add salt. It's real comfort
>> food. Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
>> years.
>
> I make the same thing, but with crumbled crispy-fried bacon instead of
> ham. I'm just not a big ham fan, but three ingredients is a nice
> number, and those who like ham (and potatoes and green beans of
> course) would have to love your great aunt's dish.
>> Kate
>>
>> --
>> Kate Connally
>
> --Bryan

You guys are really not making me want to cook good for you things right
now... but please go on ;-)

Bob

On Jul 15, 1:16*pm, Kate Connally > wrote:
> I went to the farm market last night and got
> 2 pints of black raspberries. *Stopped at the
> store and got heavy cream. *Had black raspberries
> with cream for dessert last night.
>
> Also, go my first corn of the season. *And lovely
> green beans and potatoes. *I'm going to make one of
> my favorite dishes. *It doesn't have a name. *My
> great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
> potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
> a pot. *The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
> you don't even need to add salt. *It's real comfort
> food. *Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
> years.
>
> Kate
>
> --
> Kate Connally
> “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
> Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
> Until you bite their heads off.”
> What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?
>

What a coincidence that you wrote this yesterday! Last night when my
husband & I were out for an evening walk, what do you think I saw
growing on the side of the road?? Black raspberries! (I think) It is
too soon in the season for blackberries here, and they were much
smaller- more like a very small raspberry, but dark in color. I broke
off a few branches & took them home and put in water. I will plant
them tonight in a container

zxcvbob wrote:
> Bob Muncie wrote:
>> Kate Connally wrote:
>>> I went to the farm market last night and got
>>> 2 pints of black raspberries. Stopped at the
>>> store and got heavy cream. Had black raspberries
>>> with cream for dessert last night.
>>>
>>> Also, go my first corn of the season. And lovely
>>> green beans and potatoes. I'm going to make one of
>>> my favorite dishes. It doesn't have a name. My
>>> great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
>>> potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
>>> a pot. The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
>>> you don't even need to add salt. It's real comfort
>>> food. Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
>>> years.
>>>
>>> Kate
>>>
>>
>> I've never heard of black raspberries... I now have a new jonsing
>> thanks to you :-)
>>
>> Bob
>
>
> I grew red raspberries a few years ago. They were such pitiful
> nearly-tasteless imitations of blackberries, I pulled them up after a
> couple of years cuz they weren't worth picking. They might have been OK
> if I'd never tasted a blackberry.

Red raspberries are nothing like blackberries. They're a totally
different fruit. So you shouldn't compare them to blackberries but
appreciate their own qualities.

Black raspberries are very similar in taste to blackberries and
I prefer them because you don't have that stupid white core. I
hate that thing.

> Someone brought red Jello with black raspberries in it to a company
> picnic today.

I love jello, but nevertheless, what a horrible thing to do
to wonderful black raspberries! It would improve the jello
but degrade the raspberries!

> I'd never had black raspberries (a.k.a. "black-caps")
> before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen. They
> are a pretty *good* imitation of a blackberry!

They are *not* imitation blackberries! They are their own
fruit! Sheesh!

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

zxcvbob wrote:
> Bob Muncie wrote:
>> Kate Connally wrote:
>>> I went to the farm market last night and got
>>> 2 pints of black raspberries. Stopped at the
>>> store and got heavy cream. Had black raspberries
>>> with cream for dessert last night.
>>>
>>> Also, go my first corn of the season. And lovely
>>> green beans and potatoes. I'm going to make one of
>>> my favorite dishes. It doesn't have a name. My
>>> great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
>>> potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
>>> a pot. The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
>>> you don't even need to add salt. It's real comfort
>>> food. Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
>>> years.
>>>
>>> Kate
>>>
>>
>> I've never heard of black raspberries... I now have a new jonsing
>> thanks to you :-)
>>
>> Bob
>
>
> I grew red raspberries a few years ago. They were such pitiful
> nearly-tasteless imitations of blackberries, I pulled them up after a
> couple of years cuz they weren't worth picking. They might have been OK
> if I'd never tasted a blackberry.
>
> Someone brought red Jello with black raspberries in it to a company
> picnic today. I'd never had black raspberries (a.k.a. "black-caps")
> before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen.

No, you can't get them in supermarkets. If you have a farmer's
market you might find them there. I go to farm market out in
the country - it's a large farm which has it's own market and
sells all the stuff they grow plus they get things in from other
places that they don't grow. I only buy the stuff they grow
themselves.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Merryb wrote:
> On Jul 15, 1:16 pm, Kate Connally > wrote:
>> I went to the farm market last night and got
>> 2 pints of black raspberries. Stopped at the
>> store and got heavy cream. Had black raspberries
>> with cream for dessert last night.
>>
>> Also, go my first corn of the season. And lovely
>> green beans and potatoes. I'm going to make one of
>> my favorite dishes. It doesn't have a name. My
>> great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
>> potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
>> a pot. The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
>> you don't even need to add salt. It's real comfort
>> food. Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
>> years.
>>
>> Kate
>>
>> --
>> Kate Connally
>> “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
>> Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
>> Until you bite their heads off.”
>> What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?
>>
>
> What a coincidence that you wrote this yesterday! Last night when my
> husband & I were out for an evening walk, what do you think I saw
> growing on the side of the road?? Black raspberries! (I think) It is
> too soon in the season for blackberries here, and they were much
> smaller- more like a very small raspberry, but dark in color. I broke
> off a few branches & took them home and put in water. I will plant
> them tonight in a container

Good luck, I hope they grow for you. The wild ones, and even locally
grown ones, are generally smaller than red raspberries. But I got some
once out in Lancaster area at an Amish roadside stand that were huge,
at least as big as the biggest red raspberries I have seen.
Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:14:52 -0500, zxcvbob >
wrote:

>I grew red raspberries a few years ago. They were such pitiful
>nearly-tasteless imitations of blackberries, I pulled them up after a
>couple of years cuz they weren't worth picking. They might have been OK
>if I'd never tasted a blackberry.
>
>Someone brought red Jello with black raspberries in it to a company
>picnic today. I'd never had black raspberries (a.k.a. "black-caps")
>before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen. They
>are a pretty *good* imitation of a blackberry! Something new I need to
>plant now...
>
>Bob

Black raspberries grow wild all through our fence rows here on the
farm. As a matter of fact, Gerry is out there picking them right now.
We use the Mehu Maija steamer to juice them for jelly. We also blend
the juice with red currant juice to make jelly. That blend is one of
my favourites and all the grandkids love it as well. We have one
granddaughter who says all she ever wants for her birthday is a supply
of Black Raspberry/Red Currant Jelly.

Ross.

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:16:48 -0400, Kate Connally >
wrote:

>I went to the farm market last night and got
>2 pints of black raspberries. Stopped at the
>store and got heavy cream. Had black raspberries
>with cream for dessert last night.

Kate, I am envious. Jealous. Hope you enjoyed 'em half as much as I
would have...

>Also, go my first corn of the season. And lovely
>green beans and potatoes. I'm going to make one of
>my favorite dishes. It doesn't have a name. My
>great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
>potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
>a pot. The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
>you don't even need to add salt. It's real comfort
>food. Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
>years.
>
>Kate

It's called "ham and green beans with potatoes" ;-)

I don't make it often because daughters and wife all say that "it
stinks up the house". Huh? Smells wonderful! What do they know?

Best -- Terry

In article >,
Kate Connally > wrote:

> zxcvbob wrote:
> > before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen.
>
> No, you can't get them in supermarkets.

I bought them at TJ. Inexpensive, too. Frozen.

In article >,
Kate Connally > wrote:

> I went to the farm market last night and got
> 2 pints of black raspberries. Stopped at the
> store and got heavy cream. Had black raspberries
> with cream for dessert last night.
>
> Also, go my first corn of the season. And lovely
> green beans and potatoes. I'm going to make one of
> my favorite dishes. It doesn't have a name. My
> great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
> potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
> a pot. The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
> you don't even need to add salt. It's real comfort
> food. Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
> years.
>
> Kate

I haven't had black raspberries in years! They used to grow wild on my
grandfather's farm. Every summer I used to go picking with my black
Labrador retriever, Lucy. She enjoyed picking and eating the berries as
much as I did.

The Himalayan blackberries are late again this year, but it looks as if
there will be a bumper crop. The cherries have been fantastic. I was
able to buy Rainier cherries for under $3/pound for the first time ever
this year.

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me

"Cindy Fuller" > wrote

> The cherries have been fantastic. I was
> able to buy Rainier cherries for under $3/pound for the first time ever
> this year.
>

Aldi had bing cherries for $2 a pound. I ate the entire pound in an evening.
No sugar there!

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> Kate Connally > wrote:
>
>> zxcvbob wrote:
>>> before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen.
>> No, you can't get them in supermarkets.
>
> I bought them at TJ. Inexpensive, too. Frozen.

Black raspberries and not blackberries?????

--
Jean B.

George said:
There is an old industrial site near here that has hundreds of
blackberry plants. I would normally have picked a couple gallons by now
but the blossoms got stunted by the frequent rains and cold weather so
there is no fruit to be found.
-------------------------------------------------
We have a large blackberry patch and I was worried that with a whole
month of rain in NH (June) we would lose this years's crop. I guess the
rain stopped just in time because it looks like we'll have tons to pick.
They're not my favorite, kind of seedy, but hubby loves blackberry
cobbler. I've also made blackberry ice cream, after straining the seeds
out first.

We didn't get as many last year as we'd hoped for, because the local
wild turkeys made my yard a daily stop on their walks through the
neighborhood. One day I looked out the back window to see 14 turkeys
lined up in a row devouring every berry they could reach. They came
back every day for a week or so. Even two barking pups didn't faze
them. A full grown turkey looks like a giant dinosaur to my little
mutts, but they were game to try to evict them.

This year we've discovered a new blackberry patch on the other side of
the house. I guess that one was started by bird poop droppings.

I really hate picking these berries though, the thorns are killers. I
once lost my balance while in the middle of the patch and was hopelessly
tangled for a few minutes, and the pain of all those barbs tearing into
my arms and back was excruciating, but hubby got his cobbler.

Denise

"Denise in NH" > wrote
> They're not my favorite, kind of seedy, but hubby loves blackberry
> cobbler.

Are these people calling blackberries "black raspberries?" Surely not.

Denise in NH wrote:
> George said:
> There is an old industrial site near here that has hundreds of
> blackberry plants. I would normally have picked a couple gallons by now
> but the blossoms got stunted by the frequent rains and cold weather so
> there is no fruit to be found.
> -------------------------------------------------
> We have a large blackberry patch and I was worried that with a whole
> month of rain in NH (June) we would lose this years's crop. I guess the
> rain stopped just in time because it looks like we'll have tons to pick.
> They're not my favorite, kind of seedy, but hubby loves blackberry
> cobbler. I've also made blackberry ice cream, after straining the seeds
> out first.
>
> We didn't get as many last year as we'd hoped for, because the local
> wild turkeys made my yard a daily stop on their walks through the
> neighborhood. One day I looked out the back window to see 14 turkeys
> lined up in a row devouring every berry they could reach. They came
> back every day for a week or so. Even two barking pups didn't faze
> them. A full grown turkey looks like a giant dinosaur to my little
> mutts, but they were game to try to evict them.
>

Lots of wild turkeys here too. I have never seen them go near the
blackberries. The only enemy of blackberries here is quads. Some of the
idiot parents buy them for their kids and just hand them the keys so
they run around flattening everything and making a general nuisance of
themselves.

I got a bike ride in last night before the humidity kicked in and found
a little patch with pure green berries. So maybe I will get a couple
handfulls. I did notice that the oak trees are totally loaded with
acorns. I have never seen that many acorns.




> This year we've discovered a new blackberry patch on the other side of
> the house. I guess that one was started by bird poop droppings.
>
> I really hate picking these berries though, the thorns are killers. I
> once lost my balance while in the middle of the patch and was hopelessly
> tangled for a few minutes, and the pain of all those barbs tearing into
> my arms and back was excruciating, but hubby got his cobbler.
>
> Denise
>

cybercat asked:
Are these people calling blackberries "black raspberries?" Surely not.
----------------------------------------------------
No, blackberries are not black raspberries.

Denise

George said:
Lots of wild turkeys here too. I have never seen them go near the
blackberries.
---------------------------------------------------
Last year was the first time I've seen them eating my berries, It was
pretty comical to see 14 of them in a straight line, some straining to
reach up high, others picking the droppings. When they had their fill,
they turned in a straight line and marched off like soldiers and into
the woods. We have 3 acres of mostly woods so we have quite a few wild
critters. The only part that is sunny is about a 1/2 acre in back for
the pool and herb gardens and berry patches. We find rabbit droppings
under the blackberry bushes, so I guess they might eat the dropped
berries too.

I think it will be another 2 or 3 weeks before the blackberries ripen.
Today is the first hot day of the summer, about a month late.

Denise

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> Kate Connally > wrote:
>
>> zxcvbob wrote:
>>> before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen.
>> No, you can't get them in supermarkets.
>
> I bought them at TJ. Inexpensive, too. Frozen.

Hmm. I'll have to check the next time I go to TJ's.
It would be nice to have them all year round.

But TJ's is different from the average supermarket.
I've never seen them in any supermarket or grocery
store - not even our gourmet grocer.

Kate

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“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Terry wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:16:48 -0400, Kate Connally >
> wrote:
>
>> I went to the farm market last night and got
>> 2 pints of black raspberries. Stopped at the
>> store and got heavy cream. Had black raspberries
>> with cream for dessert last night.
>
> Kate, I am envious. Jealous. Hope you enjoyed 'em half as much as I
> would have...

Thanks. But I don't see how it's possible to enjoy them
more than I did. Yum! Just had the last of them last
night for dessert - $10 worth of black raspberries gone
in 3 nights! Yikes! You'd think I was rich or something.

>> Also, go my first corn of the season. And lovely
>> green beans and potatoes. I'm going to make one of
>> my favorite dishes. It doesn't have a name. My
>> great aunt used to make this - it's just ham,
>> potatoes, and green beans cooked in some water in
>> a pot. The ham flavors the potatoes and beans so
>> you don't even need to add salt. It's real comfort
>> food. Can't wait - haven't made it in a couple of
>> years.
>>
>> Kate
>
> It's called "ham and green beans with potatoes" ;-)

Yep, that's what I call it. It makes me think of those
restaurants where the dishes' names are just a list of the
ingredients. Such as "mesquite-grilled salmon with fresh
watermelon and pomegranate seed salsa topped with chiffonade
of Thai basil". ;-)

I'll have to think of a slightly fancier way of saying
the name - what about "Simmered smoked ham with russet potatoes
and green beans" or "Cubed potatoes and snapped green beans
poached with smoked ham".

> I don't make it often because daughters and wife all say that "it
> stinks up the house". Huh? Smells wonderful! What do they know?

Yep, they're nuts! Smells great! I wouldn't mind a perfume
that smelled like that! Or bacon perfume! Years ago there were
scented oils (like perfumes) that came in unusual scents. My
favorite was strawberry. It always made me hungry when I wore
it though.

Kate

--
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“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Denise in NH wrote:

> cybercat asked:
> Are these people calling blackberries "black raspberries?" Surely not.
> ----------------------------------------------------
> No, blackberries are not black raspberries.

Nice picture he

<http://battlingforhealth.com/2009/01...erties-of-blac
k-raspberry/>


Sounds like they're good for you too.




Brian

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In article >,
"Jean B." > wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Kate Connally > wrote:
> >
> >> zxcvbob wrote:
> >>> before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen.
> >> No, you can't get them in supermarkets.
> >
> > I bought them at TJ. Inexpensive, too. Frozen.
>
> Black raspberries and not blackberries?????

I believe that's what I wrote.


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In article >,
"Jean B." > wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Kate Connally > wrote:
> >
> >> zxcvbob wrote:
> >>> before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen.
> >> No, you can't get them in supermarkets.
> >
> > I bought them at TJ. Inexpensive, too. Frozen.
>
> Black raspberries and not blackberries?????

Last packages I bought were $2 for 12 ounces.

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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> Kate Connally > wrote:
>>>
>>>> zxcvbob wrote:
>>>>> before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen.
>>>> No, you can't get them in supermarkets.
>>> I bought them at TJ. Inexpensive, too. Frozen.
>> Black raspberries and not blackberries?????
>
> I believe that's what I wrote.
>
>
Just checking. Some people seem to use the terms interchangeably.
I should have realize that was not the case with you. Also,
however, at the TJs around here, I have seen frozen blackberries
but never black raspberries. Well, maybe in some mixed berries.
I'll have to check on that.

--
Jean B.

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> Kate Connally > wrote:
>>>
>>>> zxcvbob wrote:
>>>>> before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen.
>>>> No, you can't get them in supermarkets.
>>> I bought them at TJ. Inexpensive, too. Frozen.
>> Black raspberries and not blackberries?????
>
> Last packages I bought were $2 for 12 ounces.
>
Eeeek. I just paid $5 for a tiny box of fresh ones.

--
Jean B.

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> > In article >,
>> > Kate Connally > wrote:
>> >
>> >> zxcvbob wrote:
>> >>> before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen.
>> >> No, you can't get them in supermarkets.
>> >
>> > I bought them at TJ. Inexpensive, too. Frozen.
>>
>> Black raspberries and not blackberries?????
>
> I believe that's what I wrote.
>
>
>
Blackberries and black raspberries are synonymous, they're a cultivar of the
same plant, same as red raspberries, purple raspberries, yellow
raspberries... there are hundreds of varietals/hybrids.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackberry

"brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >,
>> "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>> > In article >,
>>> > Kate Connally > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> zxcvbob wrote:
>>> >>> before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen.
>>> >> No, you can't get them in supermarkets.
>>> >
>>> > I bought them at TJ. Inexpensive, too. Frozen.
>>>
>>> Black raspberries and not blackberries?????
>>
>> I believe that's what I wrote.
>>
>>
>>
> Blackberries and black raspberries are synonymous, they're a cultivar of
> the same plant, same as red raspberries, purple raspberries, yellow
> raspberries... there are hundreds of varietals/hybrids.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackberry
>
Asshole. Here is what the above says, the opposite of what you are saying.

"Black Raspberry, a North American fruit sometimes confused with
blackberries. "

In article >,
"brooklyn1" > wrote:
> Blackberries and black raspberries are synonymous,
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackberry

They sure don't look the same, Sheldon.

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In article >,
"Jean B." > wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "Jean B." > wrote:
> >
> >> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> >>> In article >,
> >>> Kate Connally > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> zxcvbob wrote:
> >>>>> before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen.
> >>>> No, you can't get them in supermarkets.
> >>> I bought them at TJ. Inexpensive, too. Frozen.
> >> Black raspberries and not blackberries?????
> >
> > Last packages I bought were $2 for 12 ounces.
> >
> Eeeek. I just paid $5 for a tiny box of fresh ones.


No doubt! Fresh berries are outrageously prices, AFAIC. My sister
raised her (red) raspberry prices to $3/pint (from $2.50 last year). I
told her that the farmers market vendors are getting $5-$5.50 for a
pint. She thinks she'll lose customers if she raises her price. Heck,
if she wants to sell them to me for $3, I take as many as I can.
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In article >,
"Jean B." > wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "Jean B." > wrote:
> >
> >> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> >>> In article >,
> >>> Kate Connally > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> zxcvbob wrote:
> >>>>> before. They are never available in the stores, fresh or frozen.
> >>>> No, you can't get them in supermarkets.
> >>> I bought them at TJ. Inexpensive, too. Frozen.
> >> Black raspberries and not blackberries?????
> >
> > I believe that's what I wrote.
> >
> Just checking. Some people seem to use the terms interchangeably.
> I should have realize that was not the case with you.

I sounded a bit strident there‹I apologize for that.

> Also, however, at the TJs around here, I have seen frozen
> blackberries

Sure.

> but never black raspberries. Well, maybe in some mixed
> berries. I'll have to check on that.

I don't think I see them in frozen blends‹interesting. I just checked
the freezer to be triple certain. You wouldn't mistake these for
blackberries. First time I picked them up they were $3 for the bag;
next time they were $2. Heckuva deal. First time I've noticed them
there.

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"Melba's Jammin'" ha scritto nel messaggio news
> "brooklyn1" > wrote:
>> Blackberries and black raspberries are synonymous,
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackberry
>
> They sure don't look the same, Sheldon.

And they aren't. Blackberries have a core and raspberries do not. No
matter what Wiki says.