"Bob Muncie" > wrote in message
...
> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>> "Bob Muncie" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> snip
>>> You are right. Weight (water) is a good indicator of freshness. I also
>>> look for non-brown whiskers near the husk. And look how dry the bottom
>>> of the stalk is.
>>> Your pal,
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>> Sweet corn is ready to harvest when the silks are brown and starting to
>> dry.
>> Janet
>
> True enough if you refer to the ends as apposed to the silk close to the
> cob.
>
> If you like your sweet corn with the silk brown at the point it hits the
> husk, you like yours much more aged than I do.
>
> Bob

I grow my own and always wait until the silk is brown, otherwise the corn
isn't ripe. If you are buying at the store, I imagine you could select
corn that had been picked for awhile. The corn sugars begin to turn to
starch almost immediately after picking. Anything that has been off the
stalk for a couple of hours and transported and stored at room temperature
is worthless. I guess that is why all the intensely flavored butters are so
popular for slathering on cobs of corn.
Janet

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Bob Muncie > wrote:
>
>>> I've never seen them weighing all the produce they toss. It's all mixed
>>> up in boxes. Some goes down the garbage disposal, some goes to the food
>>> bank.
>>>
>>> Occasionally, I'll get them to mark some of the more choice produce down
>>> for me, such as artichokes and mushrooms. <g>
>>>
>>> But, I agree with the OP. That guy was not shopping, he was stealing.
>>> Period.
>> Om - You will notice I did not use the word weigh anywhere. There will
>> be items measured that way such as bulk nuts, but most other items have
>> real numbers. 1 pallet, 1 crate, x number of 3 lb bags, etc.
>>
>> And mark downs are still captured by the cash register.
>>
>> Bob
>
> Ok, thanks... But I have to wonder how they account for what is disposed
> of or goes to the food bank vs. what might be stolen by grazing.

There is a small percentage (based per company) that is assumed to be
waste (rot normally), the rest is accounted for in writing such as
donations. That is the business way.

The stolen part is assumed also as a small percentage. But it going up
does increase the price to the consumer.

I had a next door neighbor that worked at a Meijer's explain it to me at
one time over a couple of beers.

Bob

Janet Bostwick wrote:
> "Bob Muncie" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>> "Bob Muncie" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> snip
>>>> You are right. Weight (water) is a good indicator of freshness. I also
>>>> look for non-brown whiskers near the husk. And look how dry the bottom
>>>> of the stalk is.
>>>> Your pal,
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>> Sweet corn is ready to harvest when the silks are brown and starting to
>>> dry.
>>> Janet
>> True enough if you refer to the ends as apposed to the silk close to the
>> cob.
>>
>> If you like your sweet corn with the silk brown at the point it hits the
>> husk, you like yours much more aged than I do.
>>
>> Bob
>
> I grow my own and always wait until the silk is brown, otherwise the corn
> isn't ripe. If you are buying at the store, I imagine you could select
> corn that had been picked for awhile. The corn sugars begin to turn to
> starch almost immediately after picking. Anything that has been off the
> stalk for a couple of hours and transported and stored at room temperature
> is worthless. I guess that is why all the intensely flavored butters are so
> popular for slathering on cobs of corn.
> Janet
>
>

Janet - You will get ZERO argument from me on this. The only corn I eat
without anything on it, is sweet corn, same day picked locally. Just
wish I could get it daily all year long. Otherwise they get salt and
butter, or sometimes cumin and butter as a treatment.

Bob

"Bob Muncie" > wrote in message
...
> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>> "Bob Muncie" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>> "Bob Muncie" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> snip
>>>>> You are right. Weight (water) is a good indicator of freshness. I also
>>>>> look for non-brown whiskers near the husk. And look how dry the bottom
>>>>> of the stalk is.
>>>>> Your pal,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>> Sweet corn is ready to harvest when the silks are brown and starting to
>>>> dry.
>>>> Janet
>>> True enough if you refer to the ends as apposed to the silk close to the
>>> cob.
>>>
>>> If you like your sweet corn with the silk brown at the point it hits the
>>> husk, you like yours much more aged than I do.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>> I grow my own and always wait until the silk is brown, otherwise the corn
>> isn't ripe. If you are buying at the store, I imagine you could select
>> corn that had been picked for awhile. The corn sugars begin to turn to
>> starch almost immediately after picking. Anything that has been off the
>> stalk for a couple of hours and transported and stored at room
>> temperature is worthless. I guess that is why all the intensely flavored
>> butters are so popular for slathering on cobs of corn.
>> Janet
>
> Janet - You will get ZERO argument from me on this. The only corn I eat
> without anything on it, is sweet corn, same day picked locally. Just wish
> I could get it daily all year long. Otherwise they get salt and butter, or
> sometimes cumin and butter as a treatment.
>
> Bob

If you aren't absolutely wedded to corn on the cob at non-seasonal times of
the year, Costco has frozen corn kernels that come darn close to picked
fresh.
Janet

Janet Bostwick wrote:
> "Bob Muncie" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>> "Bob Muncie" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>>> "Bob Muncie" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>> snip
>>>>>> You are right. Weight (water) is a good indicator of freshness. I also
>>>>>> look for non-brown whiskers near the husk. And look how dry the bottom
>>>>>> of the stalk is.
>>>>>> Your pal,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>> Sweet corn is ready to harvest when the silks are brown and starting to
>>>>> dry.
>>>>> Janet
>>>> True enough if you refer to the ends as apposed to the silk close to the
>>>> cob.
>>>>
>>>> If you like your sweet corn with the silk brown at the point it hits the
>>>> husk, you like yours much more aged than I do.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>> I grow my own and always wait until the silk is brown, otherwise the corn
>>> isn't ripe. If you are buying at the store, I imagine you could select
>>> corn that had been picked for awhile. The corn sugars begin to turn to
>>> starch almost immediately after picking. Anything that has been off the
>>> stalk for a couple of hours and transported and stored at room
>>> temperature is worthless. I guess that is why all the intensely flavored
>>> butters are so popular for slathering on cobs of corn.
>>> Janet
>> Janet - You will get ZERO argument from me on this. The only corn I eat
>> without anything on it, is sweet corn, same day picked locally. Just wish
>> I could get it daily all year long. Otherwise they get salt and butter, or
>> sometimes cumin and butter as a treatment.
>>
>> Bob
>
> If you aren't absolutely wedded to corn on the cob at non-seasonal times of
> the year, Costco has frozen corn kernels that come darn close to picked
> fresh.
> Janet
>
>

Thanks Janet - I will try them. I actually have Costco access at the moment.

Bob

Christine wrote:

> I smell all produce, fruit especially. They should all give off an aroma
> of ripeness..

Durian?

Bob

In article >,
Bob Muncie > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Bob Muncie > wrote:
> >
> >>> I've never seen them weighing all the produce they toss. It's all mixed
> >>> up in boxes. Some goes down the garbage disposal, some goes to the food
> >>> bank.
> >>>
> >>> Occasionally, I'll get them to mark some of the more choice produce down
> >>> for me, such as artichokes and mushrooms. <g>
> >>>
> >>> But, I agree with the OP. That guy was not shopping, he was stealing.
> >>> Period.
> >> Om - You will notice I did not use the word weigh anywhere. There will
> >> be items measured that way such as bulk nuts, but most other items have
> >> real numbers. 1 pallet, 1 crate, x number of 3 lb bags, etc.
> >>
> >> And mark downs are still captured by the cash register.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >
> > Ok, thanks... But I have to wonder how they account for what is disposed
> > of or goes to the food bank vs. what might be stolen by grazing.
>
> There is a small percentage (based per company) that is assumed to be
> waste (rot normally), the rest is accounted for in writing such as
> donations. That is the business way.
>
> The stolen part is assumed also as a small percentage. But it going up
> does increase the price to the consumer.
>
> I had a next door neighbor that worked at a Meijer's explain it to me at
> one time over a couple of beers.
>
> Bob

Got it.
--
Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.


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In article >,
Christine Dabney > wrote:

> On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:21:15 -0500, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
>
> >Cantaloups are the only produce I smell.
>
> Not me.. I smell all produce, fruit especially. They should all give
> off an aroma of ripeness.. Say for instance, peaches or nectarines.
> You should really detect a noticeable peach aroma..and be able to
> detect it quite a few inches away. If you don't, it isn't ripe.
> I learned this from several folks, with Russ Parsons being one of
> them.
> The same goes for strawberries...they should have a strong aroma of
> strawberry.. Again, if you cannot detect that, they aren't ripe.
>
> When I follow this, I very rarely purchase unripe fruit.
>
>
> Christine

I'm going to have to give that a try next time I purchase fruit, thanks!
I'm still currently avoiding it for the most part, unless I'm
babysitting. I do purchase fruit for the nephews, and bananas for my
father.

The boys love melon. ;-)
--
Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.


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In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> Christine wrote:
>
> > I smell all produce, fruit especially. They should all give off an aroma
> > of ripeness..
>
> Durian?
>
> Bob

<lol>!!!
--
Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.


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Jean B. wrote:
> Andy wrote:

>> That's your opinion.
>>
>> More produce goes to rot than folks sampling the same.
>>
>> I thought that was common knowledge.
>>
>> Andy
>
> So you justify your actions that way? Really!
>
Andy has often written of his childish and malicious acts in the market.
Squeezing bread loaves to "punish" the store, dropping odd items into
strangers carts if they dare be in *his* way in the ailes, and so on!
So why would this twisted rationalization on his part surprise you?
Andy has no life, and apparently few friends. He seeks out his amusement
where he can, no matter how appropriate or not it is.
Goomba

Goomba said...

> Jean B. wrote:
>> Andy wrote:
>
>>> That's your opinion.
>>>
>>> More produce goes to rot than folks sampling the same.
>>>
>>> I thought that was common knowledge.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> So you justify your actions that way? Really!
>>
> Andy has often written of his childish and malicious acts in the market.
> Squeezing bread loaves to "punish" the store, dropping odd items into
> strangers carts if they dare be in *his* way in the ailes, and so on!
> So why would this twisted rationalization on his part surprise you?
> Andy has no life, and apparently few friends. He seeks out his amusement
> where he can, no matter how appropriate or not it is.
> Goomba


Goomba, goomba, goomba... you clueless ****!!!

You don't know anything about me.

Nice try, bitch!

Andy

"Andy" <> ha scritto nel messaggio

> Goomba, goomba, goomba... you clueless ****!!!
>
> You don't know anything about me.
>
> Nice try, bitch!
>
> Andy

Nice language for a supposedly grownup adult male.

On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 02:15:35 -0500, Andy > wrote:

>Goomba said...
>
>>>
>> Andy has often written of his childish and malicious acts in the market.
>> Squeezing bread loaves to "punish" the store, dropping odd items into
>> strangers carts if they dare be in *his* way in the ailes, and so on!

>> Goomba
>
>
>
>You don't know anything about me.

Well, you *did* go ape in the bread isle and wrote about it. However,
I thought the cart escapade was Squirtz.

We have so many posters here who brag about doing something they
should be ashamed of, it's hard to keep them straight w/o a scorecard.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sf wrote:

> Well, you *did* go ape in the bread isle and wrote about it. However,
> I thought the cart escapade was Squirtz.
>
> We have so many posters here who brag about doing something they
> should be ashamed of, it's hard to keep them straight w/o a scorecard.
>
Per this post of Andy's in the archives-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.f...0d287daafd0109

The only thing I might do on occasion without thinking twice is if I change
my mind to not purchase a product, I'll stick it on any shelf that's
convenient. Of course the right thing to do would be to return it at check
out.

Other than that on a few occasions when someone leaves their cart blocking
the whole aisle, I'll drop a product into their cart when they're not
looking. They can wonder about it and make a decision at check out.

I've never met an unfriendly market employee. They're always very helpful to
me. And as for the little old ladies and powerchair shoppers, I'm the "Go To
Guy" for top shelf items. The system works quite well.

Andy

On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:50:42 -0500, Andy wrote:

> The Ranger said...
>
>> On Aug 1, 8:24*am, Sheldumb Penuslessmart >
>> brayed:
>> [snip shelly's regular ear-splitting eee-awwing]
>>
>> So much bullshit from one single source. It's a wonder your land isn't
>> pure brown.
>
> Feel free to distance yourself further below your already below average IQ!!!
>
> Andy

andy calls a sheldon critic stupid. priceless.

blake

On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:14:03 GMT, brooklyn1 wrote:

> "Andy" wrote:
>> The Lying Ranger prevaricated...
>>>
>>> Your psychosis is getting worse. You really need to check yourself
>>> into a psych ward, for your own good.
>>>
>>> The Lying Ranger
>>
>>
>> You're an idiot.
>>
>> Andy
>
> The Lying Ranger is an envious idiot. LOL

yep everyone is jealous of your truth-computer brain and andy's obvious
brilliance. and that doesn't even count the psychotic breaks.

blake

sf said...

> On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 02:15:35 -0500, Andy > wrote:
>
>>Goomba said...
>>
>>>>
>>> Andy has often written of his childish and malicious acts in the
market.
>>> Squeezing bread loaves to "punish" the store, dropping odd items into
>>> strangers carts if they dare be in *his* way in the ailes, and so on!
>
>>> Goomba
>>
>>
>>
>>You don't know anything about me.
>
> Well, you *did* go ape in the bread isle and wrote about it. However,
> I thought the cart escapade was Squirtz.
>
> We have so many posters here who brag about doing something they
> should be ashamed of, it's hard to keep them straight w/o a scorecard.


I got fed up with her incessant badgering to not veer into OT territory
like a mother hen, five or more years ago.

The fact that she brings up what are to her, bothersome issues of mine,
from so many years ago is actually chilling, combined with her behind the
back stabbing she feels necessary to soothe her ego is an ugly character
trait to say the least.

She is what she is, and it ain't pretty.

If she's trying to prove she doesn't like me. I got the message years ago.
Certainly no love lost there.

End of story.

Andy

On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:16:23 GMT, brooklyn1 wrote:

> "Andy" > wrote in message ...
>> Giusi said...
>>
>>>
>>> "Andy" ha scritto nel messaggio
>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>
>>> Good news for you, Andy. Sheldon is on your side. I know, therefore,
>>> that he won't mind if you go pick out all your favorite stuff from his
>>> garden.
>>
>>
>> You're dumber than dirt!
>>
>> Andy
>
> Actually that greasy dago IS dirt.

man, i better plug up my ears here. being exposed to all this genius might
make me too smart or something.

blake

On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:14:22 -0500, Gregory Morrow wrote:

> brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> "Greasy Giusi" demonstrates jealousy:
>>> Good news for you, Andy. Sheldon is on your side. I know,
>>> therefore, that he won't mind if you go pick out all your favorite
>>> stuff from his garden.
>>
>> If Andy wants my veggies I'd take it as a compliment. You on the
>> other hand are a stinkn' dirty filthy WOP LIAR who has never grown
>> any produce nor have you ever cooked anything.... all you do is LIE!
>
> She doesn't shave her legs or her underarm thatch, either...YUK...!!!

i *knew* larry would show up sooner or later to join moe and curly.

blake

On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:22:58 -0400, Bob Muncie wrote:

> Nancy Young wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>> Today I was in amazement, this guy was so brazen. I first noticed
>>>> him because he just had to use the garbage next to my cart. As in
>>>> pushed it. Okay. In retrospect I guess he was tossing out a pit.
>>>> Then he picked out a pluot and proceeded to walk around eating that.
>>>> I kept an eye on him as he headed over to the peaches. Picked out a
>>>> nice big juicy one and parked himself somewhere to eat that.
>>>> Last I saw he was standing in front of the peanuts, helping himself.
>>>>
>>>> Bizarre.
>>
>>> I saw something similar and really disgusting in the grocery store
>>> yesterday. I was going to get one of their fresh baked donuts and had
>>> to wait while a woman poked around trying to decide which she was
>>> going to take. I give her credit for using the tongs to pick them up
>>> while
>>> she examined them, but then she started sniffing them. The second one
>>> she sniffed was so close to her nose that it was almost touching, and
>>> after sniffing it several times she was sure to have exhaled onto the
>>> thing. Then she put it back on the tray. I looked at her and said "I
>>> can't believe you just did that". Luckily, someone brought over a
>>> fresh tray for and I was able to get on that hadn't been breathed on.
>>
>> I saw someone do that once! I had a hankering for a bagel. Once in
>> a blue moon I'd feel like breakfast at work, and that day it was a bagel
>> on my mind. Walked into the cafeteria in time to see this woman sniffing
>> the bagels and putting them back. Come on!
>> I'm glad you said something to the woman. Maybe she got a clue.
>>
>> nancy
>
> As long as you guys have mentioned the up close and personal, I want to
> weigh in with it bugs the crap out of me to get stuff home like tomatoes
> and have the finger nail marks on them ((
>
> I definitely will say something to people I see mishandling the produce
> without actually buying it. Last Sunday it had to do with corn on the
> cob. I told two different "ladies" shucking the tops of corn and only
> putting some of them in their basket to "cut that crap out". Why the
> hell would anyone need to peel back more than the first skin of corn in
> the same bin??

bullshit. why not (gently) peel back the husks to look at the first few
rows of kernels?

>If the first one is okay, the rest are, and if you put it
> down, and select another, you just wasted that corn for other shoppers
> as it will dry out in the next couple of hours.

ears of corn *on the same plant* aren't uniform, let alone ears of corn
dumped in a supermarket bin.

blake

On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:31:15 GMT, brooklyn1 wrote:

> "Nancy Young" wrote:
>> Bob Muncie wrote:
>>
>>>Why the hell would anyone need to peel back more than the first
>>> skin of corn in the same bin?? If the first one is okay, the rest
>>> are, and if you put it down, and select another, you just wasted that
>>> corn for other shoppers as it will dry out in the next couple of
>>> hours.
>>
>> You see signs, please don't shuck the corn! or words to that effect.
>> It might as well say Have a nice day! for all people pay attention.
>>
>> I choose corn that's heavy for its size. What do I know.
>>
>
> Yup, it's guys who shuck their corn to compare... gals can choose corn in
> the dark without having to skin it back.

in your case, they first have to determine that it's an ear of corn and not
a string bean.

blake

On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:42:52 -0600, Christine Dabney wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:55:31 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> > wrote:
>
>>Durian?
>>
>>Bob
>
> You had to mention that one. LOL
> No, not that one..
>
> Christine. who is trying to configure her new netbook: Agent isn't
> downloading my newsgroups...

what message (if any) is agent issuing, christine?

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:46:44 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote:

> Andy wrote:
>
>> Nancy Young said...
>>
>>> It's been discussed before, people who eat their way through a store,
>>> usually produce.
>>>
>>> Today I was in amazement, this guy was so brazen. I first noticed
>>> him
>>> because he just had to use the garbage next to my cart. As in pushed
>>> it. Okay. In retrospect I guess he was tossing out a pit.
>>>
>>> Then he picked out a pluot and proceeded to walk around eating that.
>>> I kept an eye on him as he headed over to the peaches. Picked out a
>>> nice big juicy one and parked himself somewhere to eat that.
>>>
>>> Last I saw he was standing in front of the peanuts, helping himself.
>>>
>>> Bizarre.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>> You're neurotic!
>>
>> This is so stupid!!!
>>
>> When you consider the large amount of fruit and vegetables that go to
>> rot on the market shelves and thrown away, what's the harm in tasting
>> a plum or a peach to check a batch for ripeness?
>>
>> Don't blame the food nomad for the rise in prices. Blame the market
>> for "priced-to-rot" prices.
>
> And we can also blame you for squishing up loaves of bread in the
> supermarket when the mood takes you, can't we?
>
>> Good grief!
>
> Yep, Good Grief! about sums up your post.

was that good ol' andy? i had forgotten about that.

i guess his fits of crazy aren't limited to r.f.c.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:22:58 -0400, Bob Muncie wrote:
>
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>> Today I was in amazement, this guy was so brazen. I first noticed
>>>>> him because he just had to use the garbage next to my cart. As in
>>>>> pushed it. Okay. In retrospect I guess he was tossing out a pit.
>>>>> Then he picked out a pluot and proceeded to walk around eating that.
>>>>> I kept an eye on him as he headed over to the peaches. Picked out a
>>>>> nice big juicy one and parked himself somewhere to eat that.
>>>>> Last I saw he was standing in front of the peanuts, helping himself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bizarre.
>>>> I saw something similar and really disgusting in the grocery store
>>>> yesterday. I was going to get one of their fresh baked donuts and had
>>>> to wait while a woman poked around trying to decide which she was
>>>> going to take. I give her credit for using the tongs to pick them up
>>>> while
>>>> she examined them, but then she started sniffing them. The second one
>>>> she sniffed was so close to her nose that it was almost touching, and
>>>> after sniffing it several times she was sure to have exhaled onto the
>>>> thing. Then she put it back on the tray. I looked at her and said "I
>>>> can't believe you just did that". Luckily, someone brought over a
>>>> fresh tray for and I was able to get on that hadn't been breathed on.
>>> I saw someone do that once! I had a hankering for a bagel. Once in
>>> a blue moon I'd feel like breakfast at work, and that day it was a bagel
>>> on my mind. Walked into the cafeteria in time to see this woman sniffing
>>> the bagels and putting them back. Come on!
>>> I'm glad you said something to the woman. Maybe she got a clue.
>>>
>>> nancy
>> As long as you guys have mentioned the up close and personal, I want to
>> weigh in with it bugs the crap out of me to get stuff home like tomatoes
>> and have the finger nail marks on them ((
>>
>> I definitely will say something to people I see mishandling the produce
>> without actually buying it. Last Sunday it had to do with corn on the
>> cob. I told two different "ladies" shucking the tops of corn and only
>> putting some of them in their basket to "cut that crap out". Why the
>> hell would anyone need to peel back more than the first skin of corn in
>> the same bin??
>
> bullshit. why not (gently) peel back the husks to look at the first few
> rows of kernels?
>
>> If the first one is okay, the rest are, and if you put it
>> down, and select another, you just wasted that corn for other shoppers
>> as it will dry out in the next couple of hours.
>
> ears of corn *on the same plant* aren't uniform, let alone ears of corn
> dumped in a supermarket bin.
>
> blake

Actually, the condition and age of the corn should be consistent. After
checking one, the rest should be in similar shape.

I don't care if you "carefully" strip back the husk. Stripping back the
husk opens it to the air to dry, thus making it less likely to be bought
by others. Do you peel back banana skins "carefully" also?

Doing either is wrong.

Bob

On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:41:33 -0700, Jim Davis wrote:

> Andy wrote:
>
> snip
>
> Plain and simple, "grazing" is stealing no matter how you cut it.

i don't see how 'percentage of waste' or all the other crap being thrown
around here fits into it either.

or maybe the grazers are careful to choose stuff that's about to be thrown
out anyway.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 02:15:35 -0500, Andy wrote:

> Goomba said...
>
>> Jean B. wrote:
>>> Andy wrote:
>>
>>>> That's your opinion.
>>>>
>>>> More produce goes to rot than folks sampling the same.
>>>>
>>>> I thought that was common knowledge.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>
>>> So you justify your actions that way? Really!
>>>
>> Andy has often written of his childish and malicious acts in the market.
>> Squeezing bread loaves to "punish" the store, dropping odd items into
>> strangers carts if they dare be in *his* way in the ailes, and so on!
>> So why would this twisted rationalization on his part surprise you?
>> Andy has no life, and apparently few friends. He seeks out his amusement
>> where he can, no matter how appropriate or not it is.
>> Goomba
>
> Goomba, goomba, goomba... you clueless ****!!!
>
> You don't know anything about me.
>
> Nice try, bitch!
>
> Andy

it's true - we don't know anything about you other than what you post here.

unfortunately for you, a lot of it is like the above, which marks you as an
idiot and asshole. too bad.

blake

On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:26:16 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> wrote:

>
>"Bob Muncie" > wrote in message
...
>> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>> "Bob Muncie" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> snip
>>>> You are right. Weight (water) is a good indicator of freshness. I also
>>>> look for non-brown whiskers near the husk. And look how dry the bottom
>>>> of the stalk is.
>>>> Your pal,
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>
>>> Sweet corn is ready to harvest when the silks are brown and starting to
>>> dry.
>>> Janet
>>
>> True enough if you refer to the ends as apposed to the silk close to the
>> cob.
>>
>> If you like your sweet corn with the silk brown at the point it hits the
>> husk, you like yours much more aged than I do.
>>
>> Bob
>
>I grow my own and always wait until the silk is brown, otherwise the corn
>isn't ripe. If you are buying at the store, I imagine you could select
>corn that had been picked for awhile. The corn sugars begin to turn to
>starch almost immediately after picking. Anything that has been off the
>stalk for a couple of hours and transported and stored at room temperature
>is worthless. I guess that is why all the intensely flavored butters are so
>popular for slathering on cobs of corn.
>Janet
>

I have to mildly disagree. Granted, proper cooling and refrigeration
is better but, to make the blanket statement that sweet corn is
worthless at two hours after picking if kept at room temperature is a
bit extreme.
Some of the newer hybrids will retain their sweetness much longer,
particularly the Supersweet types (Sh2). They produce kernels that are
at least twice as sweet as normal sweet corn plus, this type will
remain sweet up to 10 days after harvest if cooled properly, then
refrigerated.
Sweet corn has come a long way since the stuff that was introduced to
the Pilgrims. If you grow your own, Sh2 varieties are the way to go.

Ross.

On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 13:10:25 -0500, Andy > wrote:

>If she's trying to prove she doesn't like me. I got the message years ago.
>Certainly no love lost there.

Do you enjoy high blood pressure? Why haven't you kill filed her?

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Aug 1, 2:58*pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> John Kane wrote:
>
> > University of Waterloo's rugby field is just beside a pond ( well they
> > call it a lake) where migrating geese stop. *The field is a great
> > snack bar ; *The players are not always happy given the old saying
> > "Like shit through a goose".
>
> Some of my neighbours aren't crazy about the geese that hang out at
> their ponds. One of them says he is likes mowing the lawn with his lawn
> tractor because when he did with with a push mower he was always
> slipping in the goos shit. My next door neighbours spent a lot of money
> to have a liner installed around the edge of their pond and then covered
> with riprack which makes it difficult for the geese to get in and out of
> the water. *They still fly in and land in the pond but they don't nest
> around it.

They are bad enough around here that, I beleive that farmers on
Amherst Island can get special hunting licenses for spring hunts.
Apparently the free fertilizer does not outweigh ( possibly the wrong
word) the damage they do while migrating.

John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

John Kane wrote:

>> Some of my neighbours aren't crazy about the geese that hang out at
>> their ponds. One of them says he is likes mowing the lawn with his lawn
>> tractor because when he did with with a push mower he was always
>> slipping in the goos shit. My next door neighbours spent a lot of money
>> to have a liner installed around the edge of their pond and then covered
>> with riprack which makes it difficult for the geese to get in and out of
>> the water. They still fly in and land in the pond but they don't nest
>> around it.
>
> They are bad enough around here that, I beleive that farmers on
> Amherst Island can get special hunting licenses for spring hunts.
> Apparently the free fertilizer does not outweigh ( possibly the wrong
> word) the damage they do while migrating.

They can also be a traffic hazard. The neighbour who had trouble
slipping and sliding in the goose shit has a large pond in his front
yard. There is another pond across the road from him, so geese are often
out on the road. Several geese meet their fate with cars there every
year. There is another pond just around the corner from him, and a large
lawn with a stream across the road from it. That is another goose
pedestrian area. I almost hit one myself this year. I was driving along
watching two geese waddling along one side of the road and coping with
their possessive nature when another suddenly swooped in for a pavement
landing. I don't know how I missed him. I was too busy watching the
other two.

> wrote in message
news
> On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:26:16 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bob Muncie" > wrote in message
...
>>> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>> "Bob Muncie" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> snip
>>>>> You are right. Weight (water) is a good indicator of freshness. I also
>>>>> look for non-brown whiskers near the husk. And look how dry the bottom
>>>>> of the stalk is.
>>>>> Your pal,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>> Sweet corn is ready to harvest when the silks are brown and starting to
>>>> dry.
>>>> Janet
>>>
>>> True enough if you refer to the ends as apposed to the silk close to the
>>> cob.
>>>
>>> If you like your sweet corn with the silk brown at the point it hits the
>>> husk, you like yours much more aged than I do.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>>I grow my own and always wait until the silk is brown, otherwise the corn
>>isn't ripe. If you are buying at the store, I imagine you could select
>>corn that had been picked for awhile. The corn sugars begin to turn to
>>starch almost immediately after picking. Anything that has been off the
>>stalk for a couple of hours and transported and stored at room temperature
>>is worthless. I guess that is why all the intensely flavored butters are
>>so
>>popular for slathering on cobs of corn.
>>Janet
>>
>
> I have to mildly disagree. Granted, proper cooling and refrigeration
> is better but, to make the blanket statement that sweet corn is
> worthless at two hours after picking if kept at room temperature is a
> bit extreme.
> Some of the newer hybrids will retain their sweetness much longer,
> particularly the Supersweet types (Sh2). They produce kernels that are
> at least twice as sweet as normal sweet corn plus, this type will
> remain sweet up to 10 days after harvest if cooled properly, then
> refrigerated.
> Sweet corn has come a long way since the stuff that was introduced to
> the Pilgrims. If you grow your own, Sh2 varieties are the way to go.
>
> Ross.

Yes, I grow those. Supermarket corn, if Sh2, is weeks past the pick date or
it is some of the old varieties. But, I notice that many people I am
acquainted with do not understand what fresh-picked corn can taste like.
They prefer the taste of pure starch gumminess. That's what they've always
had and they believe that corn on the cob should taste that way.
Janet

sf said...

> On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 13:10:25 -0500, Andy > wrote:
>
>>If she's trying to prove she doesn't like me. I got the message years ago.
>>Certainly no love lost there.
>
> Do you enjoy high blood pressure? Why haven't you kill filed her?


I KF'd her years ago. Just out of curiosity I turned off my scoring filters
and by some off chance I read one of her posts with my name in it which
****ed me off, prompting the "can anyone be as stupid as goomba" thread.
Blood pressure had nothing to do with it.

Andy



--
I'm no longer a danger to society.

Dave Smith said...

> John Kane wrote:
>
>>> Some of my neighbours aren't crazy about the geese that hang out at
>>> their ponds. One of them says he is likes mowing the lawn with his lawn
>>> tractor because when he did with with a push mower he was always
>>> slipping in the goos shit. My next door neighbours spent a lot of money
>>> to have a liner installed around the edge of their pond and then
covered
>>> with riprack which makes it difficult for the geese to get in and out
of
>>> the water. They still fly in and land in the pond but they don't nest
>>> around it.
>>
>> They are bad enough around here that, I beleive that farmers on
>> Amherst Island can get special hunting licenses for spring hunts.
>> Apparently the free fertilizer does not outweigh ( possibly the wrong
>> word) the damage they do while migrating.
>
> They can also be a traffic hazard. The neighbour who had trouble
> slipping and sliding in the goose shit has a large pond in his front
> yard. There is another pond across the road from him, so geese are often
> out on the road. Several geese meet their fate with cars there every
> year. There is another pond just around the corner from him, and a large
> lawn with a stream across the road from it. That is another goose
> pedestrian area. I almost hit one myself this year. I was driving along
> watching two geese waddling along one side of the road and coping with
> their possessive nature when another suddenly swooped in for a pavement
> landing. I don't know how I missed him. I was too busy watching the
> other two.


During their spring migration the Canada geese always stop by for "a walk
in the park." Small flocks of maybe 50.

On several occasions, they've tried crossing a four lane highway, bring
traffic to a halt for 10, maybe 15 minutes.

They're also deaf, as car horns don't phase them.

Andy

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> During their spring migration the Canada geese always stop by for "a walk
> in the park." Small flocks of maybe 50.

More when you're taking acid?

>
> On several occasions, they've tried crossing a four lane highway, bring
> traffic to a halt for 10, maybe 15 minutes.

And you didn't try to bend, fold, spindle or mutilate any of them?

>
> They're also deaf, as car horns don't phase them.

Kinda like you, when posting on usenet?
>
> Andy the druggie

Christine Dabney wrote:
> Not me.. I smell all produce, fruit especially. They should all give
> off an aroma of ripeness.. Say for instance, peaches or nectarines.
> You should really detect a noticeable peach aroma..and be able to
> detect it quite a few inches away. If you don't, it isn't ripe.
> I learned this from several folks, with Russ Parsons being one of
> them.
> The same goes for strawberries...they should have a strong aroma of
> strawberry.. Again, if you cannot detect that, they aren't ripe.
>
> When I follow this, I very rarely purchase unripe fruit.

My mother taught us to use our nose when purchasing fruit. My sense of
smell has not returned since my last sinus surgery (although I can now
smell garlic!), so I will have to rely on color and feel.


Becca

Bob Muncie > and blake murphy bandied back-and-
forth:

>>> If the first one is okay, the rest are, and if you put it down, and
>>> select another, you just wasted that corn for other shoppers as
>>> it will dry out in the next couple of hours.

>> ears of corn *on the same plant* aren't uniform, let alone ears of
>> corn dumped in a supermarket bin.

> Actually, the condition and age of the corn should be consistent.
> After checking one, the rest should be in similar shape.

> I don't care if you "carefully" strip back the husk. Stripping back
> the husk opens it to the air to dry, thus making it less likely to
> be bought by others. Do you peel back banana skins "carefully"
> also?

Let's compare corn-to-corn and bananas-to-bananas. There are multiple
triggers that allow the customer to see if a bunch of bananas will be
worth purchase without having to peel back the peel.

There is nothing beyond visual inspection of the cob inside the husk
that allows you this luxury with an ear of corn.

> Doing either is wrong.

No, Bob, it's not wrong and until you or anyone else that makes noise
about viewing corn unseen starts paying for my purchase, I'll simply
have to shoulder your ire stoically; strong back and thick skin assist
me in this.

The Ranger

Becca said...

> My mother taught us to use our nose when purchasing fruit. My sense of
> smell has not returned since my last sinus surgery (although I can now
> smell garlic!), so I will have to rely on color and feel.


I went to visit my aunt and uncle in Phoenix, Arizona and drove past an
orange grove to get to their home. Even with the windows closed the pungent
aroma of the orange blossoms filled the car. It was intoxicating, almost
unbearable! Like too much Chanel #5 unbearable.

Andy

The Ranger wrote:
> Bob Muncie > and blake murphy bandied back-and-
> forth:
>
>>>> If the first one is okay, the rest are, and if you put it down, and
>>>> select another, you just wasted that corn for other shoppers as
>>>> it will dry out in the next couple of hours.
>
>>> ears of corn *on the same plant* aren't uniform, let alone ears of
>>> corn dumped in a supermarket bin.
>
>> Actually, the condition and age of the corn should be consistent.
>> After checking one, the rest should be in similar shape.
>
>> I don't care if you "carefully" strip back the husk. Stripping back
>> the husk opens it to the air to dry, thus making it less likely to
>> be bought by others. Do you peel back banana skins "carefully"
>> also?
>
> Let's compare corn-to-corn and bananas-to-bananas. There are multiple
> triggers that allow the customer to see if a bunch of bananas will be
> worth purchase without having to peel back the peel.
>
> There is nothing beyond visual inspection of the cob inside the husk
> that allows you this luxury with an ear of corn.
>
>> Doing either is wrong.
>
> No, Bob, it's not wrong and until you or anyone else that makes noise
> about viewing corn unseen starts paying for my purchase, I'll simply
> have to shoulder your ire stoically; strong back and thick skin assist
> me in this.
>
> The Ranger

Ranger -

That's fine as long as you don't mind me pointing you out to the store
employees, that will undoubtedly tell you to stop it. And as long as you
and others spoil my being able to purchase the corn as it's been shucked
at the top, and dry, than I hope you don't mind my complaints. You don't
control my wallet either. But as long as you are preventing me being
able to buy corn in good shape, that is how it is.

Regards,

Bob

"The Ranger" > wrote in message
...
> Bob Muncie > and blake murphy bandied back-and-
> forth:
>
>>>> If the first one is okay, the rest are, and if you put it down, and
>>>> select another, you just wasted that corn for other shoppers as
>>>> it will dry out in the next couple of hours.
>
>>> ears of corn *on the same plant* aren't uniform, let alone ears of
>>> corn dumped in a supermarket bin.
>
>> Actually, the condition and age of the corn should be consistent.
>> After checking one, the rest should be in similar shape.
>
>> I don't care if you "carefully" strip back the husk. Stripping back
>> the husk opens it to the air to dry, thus making it less likely to
>> be bought by others. Do you peel back banana skins "carefully"
>> also?
>
> Let's compare corn-to-corn and bananas-to-bananas. There are multiple
> triggers that allow the customer to see if a bunch of bananas will be
> worth purchase without having to peel back the peel.
>
> There is nothing beyond visual inspection of the cob inside the husk
> that allows you this luxury with an ear of corn.
>
>> Doing either is wrong.
>
> No, Bob, it's not wrong and until you or anyone else that makes noise
> about viewing corn unseen starts paying for my purchase, I'll simply
> have to shoulder your ire stoically; strong back and thick skin assist
> me in this.
>
> The Ranger

The purchaser can peek by simply gently pulling the tips of the shuck back
and then stroking it back into place. There is no need to strip the husk
way back. Peeking is what I do as I decide whether the corn is ripe for
harvest or not.
Janet

Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Christine wrote:
>
>> I smell all produce, fruit especially. They should all give off an
>> aroma of ripeness..
>
> Durian?
>
> Bob

LOL!!!!

--
Jean B.