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There are two AC outlets next to each other where the MW sits. The 1,100 MW
would constantly throw the circuit breaker until I finally figured out one of
them was a 240 volt circuit!

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>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

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>
> There are two AC outlets next to each other where the MW sits. The 1,100
> MW would constantly throw the circuit breaker until I finally figured
> out one of them was a 240 volt circuit!
>
> Andy
> Voter #2



I wish I had a photo for the Pet Gallery! I hadn't notice that section.

My Annabelle, the Jack Russel Terror! My best pet ever!!! RIP.

r.f.c pet #1!!!

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Ack! I need to rescind my vote, I made a mistake.

I counted my outlets yet totally forgot the outlet in the appliance
garage. This means I answered two questions incorrectly. I do
leave the coffee maker and the toaster plugged in in the garage.

I believe those are the two appliances they recommend you do not
leave plugged in, and they are the only two I do.

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>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

>
>
> There are two AC outlets next to each other where the MW sits. The
> 1,100 MW would constantly throw the circuit breaker until I finally
> figured out one of them was a 240 volt circuit!


Ah. I thought (most) small kitchen appliances in the USA run off 110v
(or thereabouts) - guess I was wrong. Do you use/need the 240v outlet
for anything?

We have 6 outlets in our kitchen - but two of them are situated in quite
an awkward (for me) spot. So I have an extension 'block' plugged in
that gets used sometimes - e.g. for the blender or the juicer (in a
more accessible spot). The tea kettle and our small toaster are
*always* plugged in. <g>
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> Andy wrote:
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>> ChattyCathy said...
>>
>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

>>
>>
>> There are two AC outlets next to each other where the MW sits. The
>> 1,100 MW would constantly throw the circuit breaker until I finally
>> figured out one of them was a 240 volt circuit!

>
> Ah. I thought (most) small kitchen appliances in the USA run off 110v
> (or thereabouts) - guess I was wrong. Do you use/need the 240v outlet
> for anything?
>
> We have 6 outlets in our kitchen - but two of them are situated in quite
> an awkward (for me) spot. So I have an extension 'block' plugged in
> that gets used sometimes - e.g. for the blender or the juicer (in a
> more accessible spot). The tea kettle and our small toaster are
> *always* plugged in. <g>



Cathy,

Yep!

The 1,100 watt microwave and the 6,000 watt indoor bbq-grill.

A plugged in tea kettle?? Since when??

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14 general purpose accessible receptacles, all are 20A receptacles on
20A circuits. Doesn't count the dedicated refrigerator and microwave
receptacles.
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> 14 general purpose accessible receptacles, all are 20A receptacles on
> 20A circuits. Doesn't count the dedicated refrigerator and microwave
> receptacles.


I'm jealous.
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> Pete C. wrote:
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>> 14 general purpose accessible receptacles, all are 20A receptacles on
>> 20A circuits. Doesn't count the dedicated refrigerator and microwave
>> receptacles.

>
> I'm jealous.



Did I goof up volts for amps??

I think I might've.

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> Andy wrote:
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>> ChattyCathy said...
>>
>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

>>
>> There are two AC outlets next to each other where the MW sits. The
>> 1,100 MW would constantly throw the circuit breaker until I finally
>> figured out one of them was a 240 volt circuit!

>
> Ah. I thought (most) small kitchen appliances in the USA run off 110v
> (or thereabouts) - guess I was wrong. Do you use/need the 240v outlet
> for anything?
>
> We have 6 outlets in our kitchen - but two of them are situated in quite
> an awkward (for me) spot. So I have an extension 'block' plugged in
> that gets used sometimes - e.g. for the blender or the juicer (in a
> more accessible spot). The tea kettle and our small toaster are
> *always* plugged in. <g>


I have three outlets in my kitchen. One on each end of my counter and
one on the opposite wall where the micro sits on a cart.
My kettle is plugged in at one end and the toaster at the other. I
usually leave them all plugged in. Sometimes I unplug the toaster.

My coffee maker was always plugged in - until I tossed it recently. I am
currently without a coffee maker but I am ok with it for now. I mostly
only drink iced in the summer so I have been making the cold brew
extract posted here recently. It works really well and I don't need to
add half and half to it. It tastes good without it.

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> ChattyCathy said...
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>> Ah. I thought (most) small kitchen appliances in the USA run off 110v
>> (or thereabouts) - guess I was wrong. Do you use/need the 240v outlet
>> for anything?


> Yep!
>
> The 1,100 watt microwave and the 6,000 watt indoor bbq-grill.


Ah, OK. Now I gettit.
>
> A plugged in tea kettle?? Since when??


<g> You know me and my cuppa tea... Luckily our tea kettle has it's own
independent 'cut off' switch; as soon as the water boils it cuts the
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> Ack! I need to rescind my vote, I made a mistake.
>
> I counted my outlets yet totally forgot the outlet in the appliance
> garage. This means I answered two questions incorrectly. I do
> leave the coffee maker and the toaster plugged in in the garage.


Ah well, can't say I blame you - one tends to forget these things when
they're 'outta sight, outta mind'.
>
> I believe those are the two appliances they recommend you do not
> leave plugged in, and they are the only two I do.


Obviously hasn't done any harm... <g>

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> Did I goof up volts for amps??
>
> I think I might've.


Don't think so... my MW manual says:

Power input: 230 V AC / 50Hz

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In article >,
ChattyCathy > wrote:

> Ah. I thought (most) small kitchen appliances in the USA run off 110v
> (or thereabouts) - guess I was wrong. Do you use/need the 240v outlet
> for anything?


My electric stove has always been connected to a 220v circuit. The rest
are 110v.

> We have 6 outlets in our kitchen -


The best outlet in my kitchen is located on the vertical end of the
peninsula counter. One of the two best things I did when we remodeled
the kitchen umpteen years ago.

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When we redid the kitchen we added two new 20A circuits, each with one
duplex outlet and one "four"plex outlet. It's difficult to have too
many circuits or too many outlets.

I answered MCINL to the question re extension cords. Although I don't
use an "extension cord" per se, I do have a 3 foot long power strip,
plugged permanently into an outlet. It's mounted under the upper
cabinets so that it's not too unsightly; in fact it's pretty hard to
see at all. It services the toaster (plugged in all the time) and
small appliances; food processor, blender, etc. Very convenient.

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> Andy wrote:
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>
>>
>> Did I goof up volts for amps??
>>
>> I think I might've.

>
> Don't think so... my MW manual says:
>
> Power input: 230 V AC / 50Hz



OK. Thanks! Except the 230?

Where are you getting your info? From 2D Jack?? ? [waving]

Best,

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> My electric stove has always been connected to a 220v circuit. The
> rest are 110v.


Makes sense.
>
>> We have 6 outlets in our kitchen -

>
> The best outlet in my kitchen is located on the vertical end of the
> peninsula counter. One of the two best things I did when we remodeled
> the kitchen umpteen years ago.
>

Yep, the advantages doing of a remodel, you can have stuff exactly where
you want it. Unfortunately my current kitchen was designed by somebody
else - and I still can't figure out why they put a couple of the
outlets where they did (and why they didn't put them on the opposite
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I have the fridge, m/w, island, and garbage disposal on their own dedicated
circuits. I had to persuade the electrician on this point since he wanted to
provide us 8 outlets throughout the kitchen on two 15-amp circuit breakers.
I then explained how much cooking we did and how many appliances would be
running simultaneously. It would be unfortunate to have half or all the
kitchen going down if I ran, oh say the m/w and the mixer together or the
Cuisinart and a warmer. Or had to run the disposal during such time and
couldn't. We had already btdt with the previous kitchen. I didn't want to
repeat it.

Plus, I didn't understand why he was planning on putting the fridge on the
same circuit as the m/w...

I got what I wanted in the end and haven't experienced any power issues
since.

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> Where are you getting your info? From 2D Jack?? ? [waving]
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> Best,
>
> Andy


Hi Andy

some bright sparks re-defined 220 on some countries from 220 +/- 10% to
230 -10%/+5% - max is still 240 or thereabouts, but you can get away
with a few less milliAmps over the wire

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> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> Ack! I need to rescind my vote, I made a mistake.
>>
>> I counted my outlets yet totally forgot the outlet in the appliance
>> garage. This means I answered two questions incorrectly. I do
>> leave the coffee maker and the toaster plugged in in the garage.

>
> Ah well, can't say I blame you - one tends to forget these things when
> they're 'outta sight, outta mind'.


You know I was thinking about something else ... I mean, the 'do you
leave things plugged in' should have jogged my memory.

>> I believe those are the two appliances they recommend you do not
>> leave plugged in, and they are the only two I do.

>
> Obviously hasn't done any harm... <g>


Yet. (laugh) I had my kitchen remodelled some 12 years ago, maybe
more. I only counted the outlets over the countertops, I have an eat-in
kitchen so there are more. Code where I live requires there be an
outlet every six feet or so, I think that's pretty common. I have more
outlets than I could reasonably use.

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> When we redid the kitchen we added two new 20A circuits, each with one
> duplex outlet and one "four"plex outlet.


I have to point out that what I know about electricity is pretty
dismal... but I do know we have 3-phase power out here in the boonies.
Luckily my DH Jack knows how it all works - and I haven't had
anything 'trip' or go up in smoke in the kitchen since we moved
here ;-)

> It's difficult to have too many circuits or too many outlets.


I can agree with that!
>
> I answered MCINL to the question re extension cords. Although I don't
> use an "extension cord" per se, I do have a 3 foot long power strip,
> plugged permanently into an outlet. It's mounted under the upper
> cabinets so that it's not too unsightly; in fact it's pretty hard to
> see at all. It services the toaster (plugged in all the time) and
> small appliances; food processor, blender, etc. Very convenient.


Yeah, I think I know the ones you mean... but I just have one of those
extensions with a cable and a 'block' on it that can take three 3-pin
plugs and three 2-pin plugs.
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> Andy wrote:
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>> OK. Thanks! Except the 230?
>>
>> Where are you getting your info? From 2D Jack?? ? [waving]
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andy

>
> Hi Andy
>
> some bright sparks re-defined 220 on some countries from 220 +/- 10% to
> 230 -10%/+5% - max is still 240 or thereabouts, but you can get away
> with a few less milliAmps over the wire
>
> 2D-Jack



2D Jack,

Is that YOU??

Hi!!!

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I have 9 counting the 220V for the electric stove, the refrigerator
(used only for that) and whatever the microwave uses (the outlet is
hidden). When I remodeled 3 years ago, the nuker got mounted above
the stove along with a self-contained exhaust fan.

No small electric appliances are left plugged in all the time. I
seldom make coffee at home; the mixer is in the corner of the counter,
but plugged in only when I use it. The toaster oven is plugged in
only when I use it. The atomic clock is battery-operated.

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>ChattyCathy > wrote in message
...
>>
http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>
>I have the fridge, m/w, island, and garbage disposal on their own dedicated
>circuits. I had to persuade the electrician on this point since he wanted to
>provide us 8 outlets throughout the kitchen on two 15-amp circuit breakers.
>I then explained how much cooking we did and how many appliances would be
>running simultaneously. It would be unfortunate to have half or all the
>kitchen going down if I ran, oh say the m/w and the mixer together or the
>Cuisinart and a warmer. Or had to run the disposal during such time and
>couldn't. We had already btdt with the previous kitchen. I didn't want to
>repeat it.
>
>Plus, I didn't understand why he was planning on putting the fridge on the
>same circuit as the m/w...


He doesn't sound qualified to be an electrician.
>
>I got what I wanted in the end and haven't experienced any power issues
>since.
>

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> I had my kitchen remodelled some 12 years ago, maybe
> more. I only counted the outlets over the countertops, I have an
> eat-in
> kitchen so there are more. Code where I live requires there be an
> outlet every six feet or so, I think that's pretty common. I have
> more outlets than I could reasonably use.
>


I have absolutely no idea what the code here is these days. The house we
live in now must be about 20 years old, so I think that six electrical
outlets in the kitchen were probably OK back then...

Gawd, I remember a tiny apartment I lived in when I first started
working and 'ventured out of the nest' - there were exactly two
electrical outlets in that kitchen (and the fridge was permanently
plugged into one of them). That left me the other one for everything
else. Mind you, the kitchen was *really* small - if you tried to fit
more than one person in there at a time, you had a problem <grin>
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> He doesn't sound qualified to be an electrician.


Is he still in business? Yes. Would I use him again? No.

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>http://www.recfoodcooking.com


If this poll had came before May, my answer would have been 3 and a
half sockets (expanded) and an extension chord. Now I have sockets
wherever I need them. Yahoo! I may have answered too few appliances
too... I haven't put my coffee maker back on the counter as a
permanent fixture yet - but I keep my phone charger plugged in all the
time. Does it count as a permanent appliance? I see you're not
counting a microwave... why? It takes up counter space.

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>sf > wrote in message
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>> He doesn't sound qualified to be an electrician.

>
>Is he still in business? Yes.


Yikes.

>Would I use him again? No.
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> If this poll had came before May, my answer would have been 3 and a
> half sockets (expanded) and an extension chord. Now I have sockets
> wherever I need them. Yahoo!


Lucky fish! <g>

> I may have answered too few appliances
> too... I haven't put my coffee maker back on the counter as a
> permanent fixture yet - but I keep my phone charger plugged in all the
> time. Does it count as a permanent appliance? I see you're not
> counting a microwave... why?


I excluded MWs because most people leave them plugged in permanently (or
they can't get to the outlet to unplug it without moving the whole MW
out of the way)... that's why I stipulated 'small' appliances too - ya
know, like blenders, FPs, mixers, toasters, kettles, etc.

> It takes up counter space.
>

Not always.... I've seen a lot of kitchens where MWs have a 'built-in'
alcove/shelf above the counter. There's one in my kitchen as a matter
of fact, but unfortunately it was designed for a smaller MW - so we use
the alcove for other stuff. Anyway, because of this my MW has to take
up counter space - but I still leave it plugged in permanently.
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>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com


> If this poll had came before May, my answer would have been 3
> and a half sockets (expanded) and an extension chord. Now I
> have sockets wherever I need them. Yahoo! I may have
> answered too few appliances too... I haven't put my coffee
> maker back on the counter as a permanent fixture yet - but I
> keep my phone charger plugged in all the time. Does it count
> as a permanent appliance? I see you're not counting a
> microwave... why? It takes up counter space.


I only have three minor appliances permanently plugged in: the toaster,
the rice cooker and the coffee maker, tho my small food processor and
the hot tray are always out as are the coffee grinder and the stick
blender since I tend to use these quite a few times a week.

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>sf wrote:
>
>> I may have answered too few appliances
>> too... I haven't put my coffee maker back on the counter as a
>> permanent fixture yet - but I keep my phone charger plugged in all the
>> time. Does it count as a permanent appliance? I see you're not
>> counting a microwave... why?

>
>I excluded MWs because most people leave them plugged in permanently (or
>they can't get to the outlet to unplug it without moving the whole MW
>out of the way)... that's why I stipulated 'small' appliances too - ya
>know, like blenders, FPs, mixers, toasters, kettles, etc.
>
>> It takes up counter space.
>>

>Not always.... I've seen a lot of kitchens where MWs have a 'built-in'
>alcove/shelf above the counter. There's one in my kitchen as a matter
>of fact, but unfortunately it was designed for a smaller MW - so we use
>the alcove for other stuff. Anyway, because of this my MW has to take
>up counter space - but I still leave it plugged in permanently.


My food processor is on the counter 24/7, but it's not plugged in. It
even has it's own special socket now - no more extension chords. My
MW is a "half pint", not a monstrosity like yours - but it sits on the
counter and is plugged in 24/7 as is the toaster (AND the tv). My
counters are still relatively clear and I'm hoping to keep it that way
now that I have roll out shelves (so I don't have to dig around to
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> On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:52:16 +0200, ChattyCathy
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>
>>http://www.recfoodcooking.com

>
> If this poll had came before May, my answer would have been 3 and a
> half sockets (expanded) and an extension chord. Now I have sockets
> wherever I need them. Yahoo! I may have answered too few appliances
> too... I haven't put my coffee maker back on the counter as a
> permanent fixture yet - but I keep my phone charger plugged in all the
> time. Does it count as a permanent appliance? I see you're not
> counting a microwave... why? It takes up counter space.
>


Not all microwaves take up counter space. Mine is mounted above my stove

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>> "sf" > wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:52:16 +0200, ChattyCathy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>> If this poll had came before May, my answer would have been 3 and a
>>> half sockets (expanded) and an extension chord. Now I have sockets
>>> wherever I need them. Yahoo! I may have answered too few appliances
>>> too... I haven't put my coffee maker back on the counter as a
>>> permanent fixture yet - but I keep my phone charger plugged in all
>>> the time. Does it count as a permanent appliance? I see you're not
>>> counting a microwave... why? It takes up counter space.
>>>

>> Not all microwaves take up counter space. Mine is mounted above my
>> stove

>
> When we remodeled the kitchen we put in one above the stove as well. We
> like it so much better and it really does free up a lot of counter space.
>
> Michael
>

My old place had the micro above the stove. I agree it frees up counter
space but I hated how dirty it got from cooking splatter, etc.
Yes, I cleaned it, but it was a pain.

When we remodel our kitchen in a few years I think I would like micro
built in to the cabinetry - just not above the stove.

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On Aug 6, 11:20*am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
> > If this poll had came before May, my answer would have been 3 and a
> > half sockets (expanded) and an extension chord. *Now I have sockets
> > wherever I need them. *Yahoo! *

>
> Lucky fish! <g>
>
> > I may have answered too few appliances
> > too... I haven't put my coffee maker back on the counter as a
> > permanent fixture yet - but I keep my phone charger plugged in all the
> > time. *Does it count as a permanent appliance? *I see you're not
> > counting a microwave... why? *

>
> I excluded MWs because most people leave them plugged in permanently (or
> they can't get to the outlet to unplug it without moving the whole MW
> out of the way)... that's why I stipulated 'small' appliances too - ya
> know, like blenders, FPs, mixers, toasters, kettles, etc.
>
> > It takes up counter space.

>
> Not always.... I've seen a lot of kitchens where MWs have a 'built-in'
> alcove/shelf above the counter. There's one in my kitchen as a matter
> of fact, but unfortunately it was designed for a smaller MW - so we use
> the alcove for other stuff. Anyway, because of this my MW has to take
> up counter space - but I still leave it plugged in permanently.
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy


And mine is mounted over the stove - under a cupboard - it's
perfect...out of the way, easy to see into and clean...no drawbacks
that I've found.

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On Aug 6, 11:28*am, "James Silverton" >
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> *sf *wrote *on Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:05:14 -0700:
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> >>http://www.recfoodcooking.com

> > If this poll had came before May, my answer would have been 3
> > and a half sockets (expanded) and an extension chord. *Now I
> > have sockets wherever I need them. *Yahoo! *I may have
> > answered too few appliances too... I haven't put my coffee
> > maker back on the counter as a permanent fixture yet - but I
> > keep my phone charger plugged in all the time. *Does it count
> > as a permanent appliance? *I see you're not counting a
> > microwave... why? *It takes up counter space.

>
> I only have three minor appliances permanently plugged in: the toaster,
> the rice cooker and the coffee maker, tho my small food processor and
> the hot tray are always out as are the coffee grinder and the stick
> blender since I tend to use these quite a few times a week.
>
> --
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>


The toaster may be minor in size and function, but it's not minor in
being a fire hazard. I would hesitate to leave it plugged in all the
time, myself.

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"Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
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> "jmcquown" >
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>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:52:16 +0200, ChattyCathy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://www.recfoodcooking.com
>>>
>>> If this poll had came before May, my answer would have been 3 and a
>>> half sockets (expanded) and an extension chord. Now I have sockets
>>> wherever I need them. Yahoo! I may have answered too few appliances
>>> too... I haven't put my coffee maker back on the counter as a
>>> permanent fixture yet - but I keep my phone charger plugged in all
>>> the time. Does it count as a permanent appliance? I see you're not
>>> counting a microwave... why? It takes up counter space.
>>>

>>
>> Not all microwaves take up counter space. Mine is mounted above my
>> stove

>
> When we remodeled the kitchen we put in one above the stove as well. We
> like it so much better and it really does free up a lot of counter space.
>
> Michael
>
>

Except for the fridge, dishwasher, and electric stove all the recepticles in
the typical kitchen are on the same 30A circuit, they are not intended to
all be used at the same time and rarely would anyone have such an occasion,
and depending on the appliances that would usually blow the breaker. All of
the recepticles over my kitchen counters have something plugged in,
including a 4W night light. I've never had a problem with plugging in
another kitchen appliance because I simply unplug one not in use... when I
use my meat grinder I unplug my toaster (that's the reason recepticles
accomodate plugs). On the rare occasions I use my slow cooker I unplug my
night light (there're two other night lights not far away), plus the pilot
light on the slow cooker actually suffices. I can't imagine why an
extention cord would be used for another kitchen appliance, and that
dangling wire would present an unsafe condition, then it's time for an
electrician to install more recepticles, depending on appliances used
perhaps another separate circuit. Anyway it's very silly to survey how many
recepticles folks have in their kitchens, there's nothing to compare, it's
like comparing bras... kitchens and mammaries are different sizes.




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Nancy2 wrote on Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:30:24 -0700 (PDT):

> On Aug 6, 11:28 am, "James Silverton" >
> wrote:
>> sf wrote on Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:05:14 -0700:
>>
> >>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com
> >> If this poll had came before May, my answer would have been
> >> 3 and a half sockets (expanded) and an extension chord.
> >> Now I have sockets wherever I need them. Yahoo! I may
> >> have answered too few appliances too... I haven't put my
> >> coffee maker back on the counter as a permanent fixture yet
> >> - but I keep my phone charger plugged in all the time.
> >> Does it count as a permanent appliance? I see you're not
> >> counting a microwave... why? It takes up counter space.

>>
>> I only have three minor appliances permanently plugged in: the
>> toaster, the rice cooker and the coffee maker, tho my small
>> food processor and the hot tray are always out as are the
>> coffee grinder and the stick blender since I tend to use
>> these quite a few times a week.
>>
>> --
>>
>> James Silverton
>> Potomac, Maryland
>>

> The toaster may be minor in size and function, but it's not
> minor in being a fire hazard. I would hesitate to leave it
> plugged in all the time, myself.


How on earth is it going to catch on fire with nothing in it? The same
applies to the rice cooker of course.

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James Silverton wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote on Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:30:24 -0700 (PDT):


>> The toaster may be minor in size and function, but it's not
>> minor in being a fire hazard. I would hesitate to leave it
>> plugged in all the time, myself.

>
> How on earth is it going to catch on fire with nothing in it? The same
> applies to the rice cooker of course.


It's the mechanism that turns it on that is prone to go on and
sit there heating until it causes a fire. I'm sure you could google
the details.

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