I saw it last night. Meryl Streep does a great Julia Child. I liked
the Js' husbands, Paul Child and Eric Powell, too. And I'll never look
at a cannelloni shell again without recalling the movie. :-)

If accurate, it is an interesting story about publication of "Mastering
the Art of French Cooking" and Louise Berthold's role (or lack thereof)
in it. I'll bet book sales are about to soar.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check it out
Updated 8-3-2009

On Aug 6, 7:58*am, Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
> I saw it last night. *Meryl Streep does a great Julia Child. *I liked
> the Js' husbands, Paul Child and Eric Powell, too. *And I'll never look
> at a cannelloni shell again without recalling the movie. * :-)
>
> If accurate, it is an interesting story about publication of "Mastering
> the Art of French Cooking" and Louise Berthold's role (or lack thereof)
> in it. *I'll bet *book sales are about to soar.

Glad to hear it's enjoyable. I (and all three daughter-untis) want to
hit this.

The Ranger

Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> I saw it last night. Meryl Streep does a great Julia Child. I liked
> the Js' husbands, Paul Child and Eric Powell, too. And I'll never
> look
> at a cannelloni shell again without recalling the movie. :-)

Well, sounds like you enjoyed it. <g> I want to see it too... but have
no idea if and/or when it will hit our neck of the woods.
>
> If accurate, it is an interesting story about publication of
> "Mastering the Art of French Cooking" and Louise Berthold's role (or
> lack thereof)
> in it. I'll bet book sales are about to soar.

More than likely... but maybe that's not such a bad thing - it might
encourage a few more folks to actually do some cooking...
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
>I saw it last night. Meryl Streep does a great Julia Child. I liked
> the Js' husbands, Paul Child and Eric Powell, too. And I'll never look
> at a cannelloni shell again without recalling the movie. :-)
>

I can't wait to see it. Steep choses such interesting roles.

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> I saw it last night. Meryl Streep does a great Julia Child. I liked
> the Js' husbands, Paul Child and Eric Powell, too. And I'll never
> look at a cannelloni shell again without recalling the movie. :-)
>
> If accurate, it is an interesting story about publication of
> "Mastering the Art of French Cooking" and Louise Berthold's role (or
> lack thereof) in it. I'll bet book sales are about to soar.

Oh, good, I was checking on your page to see if you liked the
movie. I look forward to seeing it one of these days.

nancy

On Thu 06 Aug 2009 12:15:19p, Nancy Young told us...

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> I saw it last night. Meryl Streep does a great Julia Child. I liked
>> the Js' husbands, Paul Child and Eric Powell, too. And I'll never
>> look at a cannelloni shell again without recalling the movie. :-)
>>
>> If accurate, it is an interesting story about publication of
>> "Mastering the Art of French Cooking" and Louise Berthold's role (or
>> lack thereof) in it. I'll bet book sales are about to soar.
>
> Oh, good, I was checking on your page to see if you liked the
> movie. I look forward to seeing it one of these days.
>
> nancy
>
>

I'll be seeing it this Sunday.

--
Wayne Boatwright
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Plant a radish, get a radish, never any doubt. That's why I love
vegetables, you know what they're about! Tom Jones and Harvey Schmidt

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:52:53 -0600, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:58:25 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:
>
>>I saw it last night. Meryl Streep does a great Julia Child. I liked
>>the Js' husbands, Paul Child and Eric Powell, too. And I'll never look
>>at a cannelloni shell again without recalling the movie. :-)
>>
>>If accurate, it is an interesting story about publication of "Mastering
>>the Art of French Cooking" and Louise Berthold's role (or lack thereof)
>>in it. I'll bet book sales are about to soar.
>
>I don't know if the movie is accurate or not, as I haven't seen it
>yet, but Julia's book, My Life in France, is a very interesting read.
>That, plus her biography, gives a detailed look at what she endured
>getting Mastering published.
>
>Christine

I really enjoyed that book too. Great reading and she had such a cute
personality, and just adored her husband. Very sweet.

aloha,
Cea

I haven't seen it yet but Streep sure sounds like Child to me.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 06 Aug 2009 12:15:19p, Nancy Young told us...
>
>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>> I saw it last night. Meryl Streep does a great Julia Child. I liked
>>> the Js' husbands, Paul Child and Eric Powell, too. And I'll never
>>> look at a cannelloni shell again without recalling the movie. :-)
>>>
>>> If accurate, it is an interesting story about publication of
>>> "Mastering the Art of French Cooking" and Louise Berthold's role (or
>>> lack thereof) in it. I'll bet book sales are about to soar.
>> Oh, good, I was checking on your page to see if you liked the
>> movie. I look forward to seeing it one of these days.
>>
>> nancy
>>
>>
>
> I'll be seeing it this Sunday.
>
I need to see whether it is around. I decided my daughter would
not appreciate it, even if she deigned to go, so I found someone
else to go with.

--
Jean B.

jj wrote:
> I haven't seen it yet but Streep sure sounds like Child to me.

That is why I decided I wanted to see it: I heard a clip!

--
Jean B.

On Thu 06 Aug 2009 05:59:44p, Jean B. told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Thu 06 Aug 2009 12:15:19p, Nancy Young told us...
>>
>>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>>> I saw it last night. Meryl Streep does a great Julia Child. I liked
>>>> the Js' husbands, Paul Child and Eric Powell, too. And I'll never
>>>> look at a cannelloni shell again without recalling the movie. :-)
>>>>
>>>> If accurate, it is an interesting story about publication of
>>>> "Mastering the Art of French Cooking" and Louise Berthold's role (or
>>>> lack thereof) in it. I'll bet book sales are about to soar.
>>> Oh, good, I was checking on your page to see if you liked the
>>> movie. I look forward to seeing it one of these days.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'll be seeing it this Sunday.
>>
> I need to see whether it is around. I decided my daughter would
> not appreciate it, even if she deigned to go, so I found someone
> else to go with.
>

I hope it's in one of your theaters now. I'm glad you'll be going.

--
Wayne Boatwright
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Food probably has a very great influence on the condition of men.
Wine exercises a more visible influence, food does it more slowly
but perhaps just as surely. Who knows if a well prepared soup was
not responsible for the pneumatic pump or a poor one for a war?
Georg C. Lichtenberg

cybercat wrote:

>
> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I saw it last night. Meryl Streep does a great Julia Child. I liked
>> the Js' husbands, Paul Child and Eric Powell, too. And I'll never
>> look
>> at a cannelloni shell again without recalling the movie. :-)
>>
>
> I can't wait to see it. Steep choses such interesting roles.

This is true. Did you see "A Cry in the Dark" (a.k.a. "Evil Angels")?
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

"Jean B." > wrote:

>Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Thu 06 Aug 2009 12:15:19p, Nancy Young told us...
>>
>>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>>> I saw it last night. Meryl Streep does a great Julia Child. I liked
>>>> the Js' husbands, Paul Child and Eric Powell, too. And I'll never
>>>> look at a cannelloni shell again without recalling the movie. :-)
>>>>
>>>> If accurate, it is an interesting story about publication of
>>>> "Mastering the Art of French Cooking" and Louise Berthold's role (or
>>>> lack thereof) in it. I'll bet book sales are about to soar.
>>> Oh, good, I was checking on your page to see if you liked the
>>> movie. I look forward to seeing it one of these days.
I bought the book "My Life in France" about 3 weeks ago and am finally
just getting around to reading it. It's really been interesting and
gives you many insights into her life.

I used to love watching her tv show as she always made me laugh. The
movie isn't here yet in Anchorage, but I sure want to see it when it
gets here.

"Jean B." > wrote in message ...
| jj wrote:
| > I haven't seen it yet but Streep sure sounds like Child to me.
|
| That is why I decided I wanted to see it: I heard a clip!

Her performance is amazing, copying Julia's mannerisms, accent,
movements and love of food. Amy Adams turns in a convincing
performance also, the movie is simply terrific and I can't imagine
any foodie not appreciating it. I saw it this afternoon, and I am
now sitting here trying to figure out what to cook this evening as
nothing could seem better than what I just spent two hours watching.

pavane

pavane wrote on Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:47:19 -0400:


> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
|> jj wrote:
| >> I haven't seen it yet but Streep sure sounds like Child to
| >> me.
|>
|> That is why I decided I wanted to see it: I heard a clip!

> Her performance is amazing, copying Julia's mannerisms,
> accent, movements and love of food. Amy Adams turns in a
> convincing performance also, the movie is simply terrific and
> I can't imagine any foodie not appreciating it. I saw it this
> afternoon, and I am now sitting here trying to figure out what
> to cook this evening as nothing could seem better than what I
> just spent two hours watching.

For what it's worth, Meryl Streep is a real actress unlike a lot of
"stars". I haven't seen the movie and I might be a bit discouraged from
the reviews but I will go to watch Streep any day!

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On 2009-08-07, pavane > wrote:

> Her performance is amazing, copying Julia's mannerisms, accent,
> movements.......

Yeah, I was shocked when I saw the trailers. I'm not a creepy
Streepy fan, but she was just too too good. I was amazed by even the
trailer snippets. I think Julia would be, too.

My question: Just what is the premise of the film? I thought it was gonna
be about JC, but who is this other young punk and how does she fit in?
Gonna be awhile before it hits Nose Pick, CO.

nb

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> I saw it last night. Meryl Streep does a great Julia Child. I liked
> the Js' husbands, Paul Child and Eric Powell, too. And I'll never look
> at a cannelloni shell again without recalling the movie. :-)
>
> If accurate, it is an interesting story about publication of "Mastering
> the Art of French Cooking" and Louise Berthold's role (or lack thereof)
> in it. I'll bet book sales are about to soar.
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
> http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check it out
> Updated 8-3-2009

Thanks for the review I want to see the movie too, but I'll wait
until it comes out on DVD when the library readily has it. The two
actresses have acted together a few times before I believe, and I think
this particular movie is interesting because aren't there no scenes when
the two ladies appear together?

Sky, who's copy of said volumes are ragged!

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

pavane wrote:
>
> "Jean B." > wrote in message ...
> | jj wrote:
> | > I haven't seen it yet but Streep sure sounds like Child to me.
> |
> | That is why I decided I wanted to see it: I heard a clip!
>
> Her performance is amazing, copying Julia's mannerisms, accent,
> movements and love of food. Amy Adams turns in a convincing
> performance also, the movie is simply terrific and I can't imagine
> any foodie not appreciating it. I saw it this afternoon, and I am
> now sitting here trying to figure out what to cook this evening as
> nothing could seem better than what I just spent two hours watching.
>
> pavane

Sounds like I'll have to 'buy' the DVD when it comes out -- thanks for
the review!

Sky

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

notbob wrote:

> My question: Just what is the premise of the film? I thought it was
> gonna be about JC, but who is this other young punk and how does she
> fit in?


<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Powell>



Brian

--
Day 186 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project

notbob wrote:
>
> On 2009-08-07, pavane > wrote:
>
> > Her performance is amazing, copying Julia's mannerisms, accent,
> > movements.......
>
> Yeah, I was shocked when I saw the trailers. I'm not a creepy
> Streepy fan, but she was just too too good. I was amazed by even the
> trailer snippets. I think Julia would be, too.
>
> My question: Just what is the premise of the film? I thought it was gonna
> be about JC, but who is this other young punk and how does she fit in?
> Gonna be awhile before it hits Nose Pick, CO.
>
> nb

NB, the premise is a young women decides to cook every recipe written in
the two volumes of the --- dang it - what's the title of the two
volumes??? --- anywho - the young lady decides to cook all the recipes
written in the book in a year. So, it goes from there <G>.

Seems the movie has rave reviews from the posts I've read here I
look forward to seeing the movie.

Sky

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

Connie Swisher > wrote:

>I bought the book "My Life in France" about 3 weeks ago and am finally
>just getting around to reading it. It's really been interesting and
>gives you many insights into her life.

I haven't read that yet but I did read "The Tenth Muse, My Life in
Food" by Judith Jones, Knopf food editor about 2 years ago. I think
she worked with Child and many other old school food greats. Some
very charming, enjoyable stories about a life very well lived. She's
still going strong at +80 years so I found it inspirational as well.

I picked it up at the library and I am now reminded to buy a copy
along with "Beautiful Swimmers" by William W. Warner about crabs in
Chesapeake Bay. (see "chesapeake bay oysters" thread same day as
this one)

"Sky" > wrote in message ...
| Melba's Jammin' wrote:
| >
| > I saw it last night. Meryl Streep does a great Julia Child. I liked
| > the Js' husbands, Paul Child and Eric Powell, too. And I'll never look
| > at a cannelloni shell again without recalling the movie. :-)
| >
| > If accurate, it is an interesting story about publication of "Mastering
| > the Art of French Cooking" and Louise Berthold's role (or lack thereof)
| > in it. I'll bet book sales are about to soar.
| > --
| > -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
| > http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check it out
| > Updated 8-3-2009
|
| Thanks for the review I want to see the movie too, but I'll wait
| until it comes out on DVD when the library readily has it. The two
| actresses have acted together a few times before I believe, and I think
| this particular movie is interesting because aren't there no scenes when
| the two ladies appear together?
|
| Sky, who's copy of said volumes are ragged!

Correct, the two of them never met and never even talked to each other.
The movie shows Julie's extreme disappointment upon hearing from
a journalist in California that Julia did not like the fact that Julie wrote
the book, but I don't remember anything definitive as to why Julia was
miffed at it. Of course this was within a year or so of Julia's death and
she was not in particularly good shape, mentally or physically, at that
point. This scene in which Julie hears of Julia's apparent dislike is some
of the best of Amy's acting in the movie.

By the way, when you see the movie don't leave the theatre until the written
epilogue has been shown. It's very short and the final line is possibly the
funniest line in the entire show.

pavane

In article >,
notbob > wrote:
> My question: Just what is the premise of the film? I thought it was gonna
> be about JC, but who is this other young punk and how does she fit in?
> Gonna be awhile before it hits Nose Pick, CO.
>
> nb

It's called Julie & Julia. Julie Powell wrote a blog in 2002 -- she
made every recipe in Mastering the Art of French Cooking. The "premise"
is nothing more than their similar stories, though sometimes the
similarities are kind of thin. At the end, Julie Powell says something
about her and Julia being alike because food saved their lives. And
changed both their lives. JP's blog was enormously popular on
salon.com, according to the movie.

The movie tells their stories. First scene about JP and Eric moving to
Queens and her sucky job. Second scene about JC and Paul moving to
Paris and JC having to "find something to doooo." JP never finishes
anything and decides to blog so she will have a deadline and WILL FINISH
SOMETHING. Cooking is her hobby so she writes about that.

It's fun.

http://blogs.salon.com/0001399/

FWIW.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check it out
Lots of new stuff in the last couple days.

In article >,
notbob > wrote:
> My question: Just what is the premise of the film? I thought it was gonna
> be about JC, but who is this other young punk and how does she fit in?
> Gonna be awhile before it hits Nose Pick, CO.
>
> nb

http://blogs.salon.com/0001399/2002/08/25.html

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check it out
Lots of new stuff in the last couple days.

On Aug 8, 11:26*am, "pavane" > wrote:
> "Sky" > wrote in ...
> | Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> | >
> | > I saw it last night. *Meryl Streep does a great Julia Child. *I liked
> | > the Js' husbands, Paul Child and Eric Powell, too. *And I'll never look
> | > at a cannelloni shell again without recalling the movie. * :-)
> | >
> | > If accurate, it is an interesting story about publication of "Mastering
> | > the Art of French Cooking" and Louise Berthold's role (or lack thereof)
> | > in it. *I'll bet *book sales are about to soar.
> | > --
> | > -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
> | >http://web.me.com/barbschaller- Yes, I Can! blog - check it out
> | > Updated 8-3-2009
> |
> | Thanks for the review *I want to see the movie too, but I'll wait
> | until it comes out on DVD when the library readily has it. *The two
> | actresses have acted together a few times before I believe, and I think
> | this particular movie is interesting because aren't there no scenes when
> | the two ladies appear together?
> |
> | Sky, who's copy of said volumes are ragged!
>
> Correct, the two of them never met and never even talked to each other.
> The movie shows Julie's extreme disappointment upon hearing from
> a journalist in California that Julia did not like the fact that Julie wrote
> the book, but I don't remember anything definitive as to why Julia was
> miffed at it. *Of course this was within a year or so of Julia's death and
> she was not in particularly good shape, mentally or physically, at that
> point. *This scene in which Julie hears of Julia's apparent dislike is some
> of the best of Amy's acting in the movie.
>
> By the way, when you see the movie don't leave the theatre until the written
> epilogue has been shown. *It's very short and the final line is possibly the
> funniest line in the entire show.
>
> pavane

DH & I played hooky from yard work yesterday & caught a matinee of J &
J - enjoyed it enormously. Without Julia Child, I'd have never made
the leap from basic cooking to cuisine - her Coq au Vin recipe made me
the reigning "food star" of our crowd back in the '70's. Wouldn't have
missed the film and was tickled with Streep's performance.

Caught Charlie Rose on PBS last night interviewing Streep and Nora
Ephron about the film. Both regretted never having actually met Julia
and a story Streep told surprised me a bit. I think most of us think
of Julia Child as a rather jolly, kind woman, but many years ago
Streep contacted her hoping for her support with an organization she'd
started for the purpose of encouraging people to raise & eat organic
foods. She was quite stunned upon receiving a fairly cranky and
dismissive letter in reply from Julia herself. In her discreet Meryl
Streep way, she allowed that there were often unexpected differences
in people's private and public personas...and I got the impression
from Streep and Ephron that dear old Julia could really shoot from the
hip. Was a good interview.

Entirely possible that as a creative business person, Julia may have
felt that Julie was intruding on her own well earned stature - in her
boots I'd probably have been damned cranky to hear that some young
upstart was reaping benefits based on my work and reputation.

Nancy T

saraheartburn wrote:

I think most of us think
> of Julia Child as a rather jolly, kind woman, but many years ago
> Streep contacted her hoping for her support with an organization she'd
> started for the purpose of encouraging people to raise & eat organic
> foods. She was quite stunned upon receiving a fairly cranky and
> dismissive letter in reply from Julia herself.

Why would she presume to think that Julia was necessarily pro-organic or
wanted her name associated with such a campaign or that group?

>
> Entirely possible that as a creative business person, Julia may have
> felt that Julie was intruding on her own well earned stature - in her
> boots I'd probably have been damned cranky to hear that some young
> upstart was reaping benefits based on my work and reputation.
>
> Nancy T

I dunno? After reading "My Life in France" I would have thunk that
inspiring a young woman to use each and every one of those recipes that
Julia labored so long and hard over would be a reward to Julia in
itself! She wanted accuracy, authenticity and yet American user friendly
recipes in that book. Recipes that would translate well into American
kitchens as that was her intended audience. I would have thought that
she would have felt she was successful and proud? Perhaps any crankiness
was in response to how Streep or others presented themselves to her?

On Aug 8, 2:16*pm, Goomba > wrote:
> saraheartburn wrote:
>
> * I think most of us think
>
> > of Julia Child as a rather jolly, kind woman, but many years ago
> > Streep contacted her hoping for her support with an organization she'd
> > started for the purpose of encouraging people to raise & eat organic
> > foods. *She was quite stunned upon receiving a fairly cranky and
> > dismissive letter in reply from Julia herself.
>
> Why would she presume to think that Julia was necessarily pro-organic or
> wanted her name associated with such a campaign or that group?

Streep told the story on herself - not as a criticism of Julia - but
as an answer to a question about whether she'd ever met the her.
Streep explained that she contacted Julia because she'd foolishly
assumed that as a chef who encouraged the use of the very best
ingredients, she'd have an appreciation for organic foods and might
wish to publicly endorse the idea. At that time, Streep said the
concept of raising/marketing organic foods was pretty new and Child
wasn't interested. She made a point of saying that years later -
after Alice Waters came along - Julia changed her mind about "organic"
foods and embraced the philosophy.

> > Entirely possible that as a creative business person, Julia may have
> > felt that Julie was intruding on her own well earned stature - in her
> > boots I'd probably have been damned cranky to hear that some young
> > upstart was reaping benefits based on my work and reputation.
>
> > Nancy T
>
> I dunno? After reading "My Life in France" I would have thunk that
> inspiring a young woman to use each and every one of those recipes that
> Julia labored so long and hard over would be a reward to Julia in
> itself! She wanted accuracy, authenticity and yet American user friendly
> recipes in that book. Recipes that would translate well into American
> kitchens as that was her intended audience. I would have thought that
> she would have felt she was successful and proud? Perhaps any crankiness
> was in response to how Streep or others presented themselves to her?

Could be.

She had every reason to be very proud of her success - she did
something quite extraordinary and earned her laurels right and proper.
She did the groundbreaking for all the TV chefs who have trotted along
in her tracks. Although she was revered and financially successful,
I don't think she ever made the the piles of dough that today's high
profile celeb chefs rake in. I'll bet she was very protective about
the use of her name and ideas by another author - even if they were
used in the most flattering way.

At the time Julie got the word that Julia wasn't pleased with her
blog, Julia was quite elderly and may have just given the reporter a
crotchety answer to a damned fool question...Heck, I do it all the
time.

Nancy T

My local PBS station is having a "Baking with Julia" marathon. It's
obviously timed for the J&J movie opening. Smart!

saraheartburn wrote:
> Caught Charlie Rose on PBS last night interviewing Streep and Nora
> Ephron about the film. Both regretted never having actually met Julia
> and a story Streep told surprised me a bit. I think most of us think
> of Julia Child as a rather jolly, kind woman, but many years ago
> Streep contacted her hoping for her support with an organization she'd
> started for the purpose of encouraging people to raise & eat organic
> foods. She was quite stunned upon receiving a fairly cranky and
> dismissive letter in reply from Julia herself. In her discreet Meryl
> Streep way, she allowed that there were often unexpected differences
> in people's private and public personas...and I got the impression
> from Streep and Ephron that dear old Julia could really shoot from the
> hip. Was a good interview.

Ack! I wish I'd seen that. I'm sure that Julia could shoot from the hip,
but I don't think there was much difference between the Julia we saw on
TV and Julia in private. Watching her on her shows, there were times
that she could be brusque and dismissive even then. I'm sure she
loosened up with the passage of time, as we all do when familiar objects
and routines and people start to fall away and priorities shift.


> Entirely possible that as a creative business person, Julia may have
> felt that Julie was intruding on her own well earned stature - in her
> boots I'd probably have been damned cranky to hear that some young
> upstart was reaping benefits based on my work and reputation.

As I understood it (from recent articles in the NYT) Julia thought the
blog project was frivolous use of the book's material, and didn't see
Julie as a serious cook. And it's easy to see how she interpreted it
that way. Julia wrote the book as a step-by-step guide for achieving a
heightened appreciation of a shared life experience and didn't take to
its being used as something of a game. In the NYT's articles, the
authors talk about Julia's references to the "flimsies" and the
"fluffies" during the writing of "Mastering...." I'm certain that she
held those opinions about other peoples' approaches to cooking and food
firm for her entire life.

On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:56:13 -0700 (PDT), saraheartburn wrote:
>
> Caught Charlie Rose on PBS last night interviewing Streep and Nora
> Ephron about the film. Both regretted never having actually met Julia
> and a story Streep told surprised me a bit. I think most of us think
> of Julia Child as a rather jolly, kind woman, but many years ago
> Streep contacted her hoping for her support with an organization she'd
> started for the purpose of encouraging people to raise & eat organic
> foods. She was quite stunned upon receiving a fairly cranky and
> dismissive letter in reply from Julia herself. In her discreet Meryl
> Streep way, she allowed that there were often unexpected differences
> in people's private and public personas...and I got the impression
> from Streep and Ephron that dear old Julia could really shoot from the
> hip. Was a good interview.
>

this doesn't seem too outlandish to me. many boosters of organic foods are
themselves cranks. child may have felt streep was some kind of dilettante.

not to mention that i'm sure child got letters from kooks of many stripes.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:

> On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:56:13 -0700 (PDT), saraheartburn wrote:
>
>>Caught Charlie Rose on PBS last night interviewing Streep and Nora
>>Ephron about the film. Both regretted never having actually met Julia
>>and a story Streep told surprised me a bit. I think most of us think
>>of Julia Child as a rather jolly, kind woman, but many years ago
>>Streep contacted her hoping for her support with an organization she'd
>>started for the purpose of encouraging people to raise & eat organic
>>foods. She was quite stunned upon receiving a fairly cranky and
>>dismissive letter in reply from Julia herself. In her discreet Meryl
>>Streep way, she allowed that there were often unexpected differences
>>in people's private and public personas...and I got the impression
>>from Streep and Ephron that dear old Julia could really shoot from the
>>hip. Was a good interview.
>>
>
>
> this doesn't seem too outlandish to me. many boosters of organic foods are
> themselves cranks. child may have felt streep was some kind of dilettante.
>

Exactly. There's reason for it.

Meryl Streep was in fact part of the Alar Scare of the late 80's.
She testified before congress about the dangers of it. Alar turned out to
be a non-problem, and the scare ended up costing the industry millions and
bankrupting family owned orchards.

> not to mention that i'm sure child got letters from kooks of many stripes.

Also true.

Pennyaline wrote:
> saraheartburn wrote:
>> Caught Charlie Rose on PBS last night interviewing Streep and Nora
>> Ephron about the film. Both regretted never having actually met Julia
>> and a story Streep told surprised me a bit. I think most of us think
>> of Julia Child as a rather jolly, kind woman, but many years ago
>> Streep contacted her hoping for her support with an organization she'd
>> started for the purpose of encouraging people to raise & eat organic
>> foods. She was quite stunned upon receiving a fairly cranky and
>> dismissive letter in reply from Julia herself. In her discreet Meryl
>> Streep way, she allowed that there were often unexpected differences
>> in people's private and public personas...and I got the impression
>> from Streep and Ephron that dear old Julia could really shoot from the
>> hip. Was a good interview.
>
> Ack! I wish I'd seen that. I'm sure that Julia could shoot from the hip,
> but I don't think there was much difference between the Julia we saw on
> TV and Julia in private. Watching her on her shows, there were times
> that she could be brusque and dismissive even then. I'm sure she
> loosened up with the passage of time, as we all do when familiar objects
> and routines and people start to fall away and priorities shift.
>
>
>> Entirely possible that as a creative business person, Julia may have
>> felt that Julie was intruding on her own well earned stature - in her
>> boots I'd probably have been damned cranky to hear that some young
>> upstart was reaping benefits based on my work and reputation.
>
> As I understood it (from recent articles in the NYT) Julia thought the
> blog project was frivolous use of the book's material, and didn't see
> Julie as a serious cook. And it's easy to see how she interpreted it
> that way. Julia wrote the book as a step-by-step guide for achieving a
> heightened appreciation of a shared life experience and didn't take to
> its being used as something of a game. In the NYT's articles, the
> authors talk about Julia's references to the "flimsies" and the
> "fluffies" during the writing of "Mastering...." I'm certain that she
> held those opinions about other peoples' approaches to cooking and food
> firm for her entire life.

Here's my take--not having read the book or seen the movie yet.
Julie seems to be a woman who decided to capitalize on Julia's
success. That kind-of irks me. I had no intention of seeing the
movie until I heard that voice emanating from Maryl Streep. Maybe
I'll change my mind about this. I dunno.

An aside. Someone was musing about the resurgence of interest in
Julia Child's books. Indeed, someone was just offering $100 for a
1961 MtAoFC. I see I haven't even entered my JCs onto
Librarything! I assume I have a 1961, but it was my mom's and not
for sale.

--
Jean B.

I saw the movie on Saturday August 8 at a theater in Oakmont (near
Pittsburgh,Pa) which is still a single theater, and which has been
greatly restored. People clapped when the movie was over. It was a
really a good movie. I think that people would really like the movie
even if they ate all their meals at McDonalds ( well maybe not). It
was a good movie to show the ":juck the position" (I flunked English)
between the current generation,and the one who survived the
depression, which the current generation may still experience. I had a
few tears, and it was not from onions.

Tom

corky > wrote:

>I saw the movie on Saturday August 8 at a theater in Oakmont (near
>Pittsburgh,Pa) which is still a single theater, and which has been
>greatly restored. People clapped when the movie was over. It was a
>really a good movie. I think that people would really like the movie
>even if they ate all their meals at McDonalds ( well maybe not). It


>was a good movie to show the ":juck the position" (I flunked English)

Well, I'm clapping right now! Brilliant word play! I shall steal it
from you. And huzzah to appreciating and understanding what was then,
what is now, what will be and how they are connected.

>between the current generation,and the one who survived the
>depression, which the current generation may still experience. I had a
>few tears, and it was not from onions.
>
>Tom

Melba's Jammin' > wrote in message
...
>I saw it last night. Meryl Streep does a great Julia Child. I liked
> the Js' husbands, Paul Child and Eric Powell, too. And I'll never look
> at a cannelloni shell again without recalling the movie. :-)
>
> If accurate, it is an interesting story about publication of "Mastering
> the Art of French Cooking" and Louise Berthold's role (or lack thereof)
> in it. I'll bet book sales are about to soar.

"Veni, vidi, vici"

"Julie & Julia" rocked! Daughter-unit Beta enjoyed the humor and
Daughter-unit Alpha enjoyed the visuals.

When it is released in DVD, it's a definite addition to Clan Ranger's
collection! The matinees are the best deal, both in cost and lack of
audience.

The Ranger

On Aug 9, 7:49*pm, "The Ranger" <cuhulain _ > wrote:
>
> When it is released in DVD, it's a definite addition to Clan Ranger's
> collection! The matinees are the best deal, both in cost and lack of
> audience.

Yeah, cuz who the **** would wanna sit by you and your fat wife and
retarded kids? Cheap ****er. I bet you made them smuggle in their
own popcorn, too. LOL!

projectile vomit chick > wrote in message
...
[snip PVC chatter]

How're those toes? The ones you keep stepping all over with your Sasquachian
12EEEs, Griselda.

ObPVCbulimia: Peanut butter; it's the same comin' back up as it was goin'
down.

The Ranger

On Aug 9, 9:48*pm, "The Ranger" <cuhulain _ > wrote:
> projectile vomit chick > wrote in ...
> [snip PVC chatter]
>
> How're those toes? The ones you keep stepping all over with your Sasquachian
> 12EEEs, Griselda.
>
> ObPVCbulimia: Peanut butter; it's the same comin' back up as it was goin'
> down.
>
> The Ranger

LOL Do you ever come up with anything new? You are really kind of
boring to pick on. LOL

projectile vomit chick > spewed in message
...
> Do you come up with anything new? You are really
> kind of boring to pick on.

Nah; I go with what works. If that finally drives you into a caressing
nuzzle with the muzzle of a Glock 9mm then my work is successful.

ObPVCbulimia: Look to your teeth.

The Ranger

Jean B. wrote:


> Here's my take--not having read the book or seen the movie yet. Julie
> seems to be a woman who decided to capitalize on Julia's success.
> That kind-of irks me.

That's *a* take. Not that great of a one in my opinion. Another take
would be that Julie Powell probably introduced a lot of young people to
The Art of French Cooking that would not have heard of it otherwise.




Brian

--
Day 189 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project