Christine Dabney wrote:

> Well..I had this coupon that had to be used-for 40% off on a
> paperback. Now you know when I see a coupon like that, I think
> COOKBOOK!!
>
> I went to Borders...and not only was this coupon in effect, but all
> cookbooks were 30% off. I got two...one for the coupon, and one at
> 30% off. The 30% off one was Fat: The Appreciation of a Misunderstood
> Ingredient, with Recipes. The paperback was harder to pick as most
> of the cookbooks I want, are hardcover. But I got one: My Italian
> Garden.
>
> But that wasn't the amazing thing. The amazing thing, was that the
> cookbook section, which usually only has one or two people looking at
> cookbooks, was knee deep in people. I could barely move...to check
> out new cookbooks.
>
> And Julia's books were all sold out... A week or two ago, when I was
> in there, there were a few Julia books, and sets of Mastering. Now,
> nada. Zilch.
>
> But I was really floored by the number of folks looking at
> cookbooks..and it looked like they were buying!!
>
> Wonder what this means for the future of cooking in this country?
>

It's a momentary fad. Anyone who is at all into food or cooking will
already be acquainted with her, Once the buzz dies down look for many of
those cookbooks to do duty as doorstops, sold on eBay, etc...


--
Best
Greg

On Aug 15, 3:13*pm, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
> Christine Dabney wrote:
> > Well..I had this coupon that had to be used-for 40% off on a
> > paperback. *Now you know when I see a coupon like that, I think
> > COOKBOOK!!
>
> > I went to Borders...and not only was this coupon in effect, but all
> > cookbooks were 30% off. *I got two...one for the coupon, and one at
> > 30% off. *The 30% off one was Fat: The Appreciation of a Misunderstood
> > Ingredient, with Recipes. *The *paperback was harder to pick as most
> > of the cookbooks I want, are hardcover. *But I got one: My Italian
> > Garden.
>
> > But that wasn't the amazing thing. *The amazing thing, was that the
> > cookbook section, which usually only has one or two people looking at
> > cookbooks, was knee deep in people. *I could barely move...to check
> > out new cookbooks.
>
> > And Julia's books were all sold out... *A week or two ago, when I was
> > in there, there were a few Julia books, and sets of Mastering. *Now,
> > nada. *Zilch.
>
> > But I was really floored by the number of folks looking at
> > cookbooks..and it looked like they were buying!!
>
> > Wonder what this means for the future of cooking in this country?
>
> It's a momentary fad. *Anyone who is at all into food or cooking will
> already be acquainted with her, * Once the buzz dies down look for many of
> those cookbooks to do duty as doorstops, sold on eBay, etc...
>
> --
> Best
> Greg

Eggactlee- it's just commercialism at work...

Merryb wrote:

> On Aug 15, 3:13 pm, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
>> Christine Dabney wrote:
>>> Well..I had this coupon that had to be used-for 40% off on a
>>> paperback. Now you know when I see a coupon like that, I think
>>> COOKBOOK!!
>>
>>> I went to Borders...and not only was this coupon in effect, but all
>>> cookbooks were 30% off. I got two...one for the coupon, and one at
>>> 30% off. The 30% off one was Fat: The Appreciation of a
>>> Misunderstood Ingredient, with Recipes. The paperback was harder to
>>> pick as most of the cookbooks I want, are hardcover. But I got one:
>>> My Italian Garden.
>>
>>> But that wasn't the amazing thing. The amazing thing, was that the
>>> cookbook section, which usually only has one or two people looking
>>> at cookbooks, was knee deep in people. I could barely move...to
>>> check out new cookbooks.
>>
>>> And Julia's books were all sold out... A week or two ago, when I was
>>> in there, there were a few Julia books, and sets of Mastering. Now,
>>> nada. Zilch.
>>
>>> But I was really floored by the number of folks looking at
>>> cookbooks..and it looked like they were buying!!
>>
>>> Wonder what this means for the future of cooking in this country?
>>
>> It's a momentary fad. Anyone who is at all into food or cooking will
>> already be acquainted with her, Once the buzz dies down look for
>> many of those cookbooks to do duty as doorstops, sold on eBay, etc...
>>
>> --
>> Best
>> Greg
>
> Eggactlee- it's just commercialism at work...

Merryb wrote:

> On Aug 15, 3:13 pm, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
>> Christine Dabney wrote:
>>> Well..I had this coupon that had to be used-for 40% off on a
>>> paperback. Now you know when I see a coupon like that, I think
>>> COOKBOOK!!
>>
>>> I went to Borders...and not only was this coupon in effect, but all
>>> cookbooks were 30% off. I got two...one for the coupon, and one at
>>> 30% off. The 30% off one was Fat: The Appreciation of a
>>> Misunderstood Ingredient, with Recipes. The paperback was harder to
>>> pick as most of the cookbooks I want, are hardcover. But I got one:
>>> My Italian Garden.
>>
>>> But that wasn't the amazing thing. The amazing thing, was that the
>>> cookbook section, which usually only has one or two people looking
>>> at cookbooks, was knee deep in people. I could barely move...to
>>> check out new cookbooks.
>>
>>> And Julia's books were all sold out... A week or two ago, when I was
>>> in there, there were a few Julia books, and sets of Mastering. Now,
>>> nada. Zilch.
>>
>>> But I was really floored by the number of folks looking at
>>> cookbooks..and it looked like they were buying!!
>>
>>> Wonder what this means for the future of cooking in this country?
>>
>> It's a momentary fad. Anyone who is at all into food or cooking will
>> already be acquainted with her, Once the buzz dies down look for
>> many of those cookbooks to do duty as doorstops, sold on eBay, etc...
>>
>> --
>> Best
>> Greg
>
> Eggactlee- it's just commercialism at work...


The movie is targeted at a "young chick" demographic, and with that
demographic's short attention span their attentions will soon wander
somewhere else...

The movie's described as "half of a good movie", e.g. the Julia part is just
fine. The "Julie" half is just some self - absorbed ickiness to appeal to
the _Sex & The City_ demographic...

Anyways, it'll be on cable soon enough, I'll plan on watching it...

:-)

--
Best
Greg

Gregory Morrow wrote:
> It's a momentary fad. Anyone who is at all into food or cooking will
> already be acquainted with her, Once the buzz dies down look for many of
> those cookbooks to do duty as doorstops, sold on eBay, etc...

Perhaps. I can tell you that every copy of "My Life in France" available
in the Salt Lake County library system is checked out and reserved on
hold for the next borrower as soon as it's returned. Tellingly, though,
the system owned no copies of Julie's book at all... until the main
library ordered ONE last week.

On Aug 15, 9:36*pm, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
> Merryb wrote:
> > On Aug 15, 3:13 pm, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
> >> Christine Dabney wrote:
> >>> Well..I had this coupon that had to be used-for 40% off on a
> >>> paperback. Now you know when I see a coupon like that, I think
> >>> COOKBOOK!!
>
> >>> I went to Borders...and not only was this coupon in effect, but all
> >>> cookbooks were 30% off. I got two...one for the coupon, and one at
> >>> 30% off. The 30% off one was Fat: The Appreciation of a
> >>> Misunderstood Ingredient, with Recipes. The paperback was harder to
> >>> pick as most of the cookbooks I want, are hardcover. But I got one:
> >>> My Italian Garden.
>
> >>> But that wasn't the amazing thing. The amazing thing, was that the
> >>> cookbook section, which usually only has one or two people looking
> >>> at cookbooks, was knee deep in people. I could barely move...to
> >>> check out new cookbooks.
>
> >>> And Julia's books were all sold out... A week or two ago, when I was
> >>> in there, there were a few Julia books, and sets of Mastering. Now,
> >>> nada. Zilch.
>
> >>> But I was really floored by the number of folks looking at
> >>> cookbooks..and it looked like they were buying!!
>
> >>> Wonder what this means for the future of cooking in this country?
>
> >> It's a momentary fad. Anyone who is at all into food or cooking will
> >> already be acquainted with her, Once the buzz dies down look for
> >> many of those cookbooks to do duty as doorstops, sold on eBay, etc...
>
> >> --
> >> Best
> >> Greg
>
> > Eggactlee- it's just commercialism at work...
>
> The movie is targeted at a "young chick" demographic, and with that
> demographic's short attention span their attentions will soon wander
> somewhere else...
>
> The movie's described as "half of a good movie", e.g. the Julia part is just
> fine. *The "Julie" half is just some self - absorbed ickiness to appeal to
> the _Sex & The City_ demographic...
>
> Anyways, it'll be on cable soon enough, I'll plan on watching it...
>
> :-)
>
> --
> Best
> Greg

Actually, I read the book about a year ago- it was pretty good.

"Pennyaline" > wrote in message
...
> Perhaps. I can tell you that every copy of "My Life in France" available
> in the Salt Lake County library system is checked out and reserved on hold
> for the next borrower as soon as it's returned. Tellingly, though, the
> system owned no copies of Julie's book at all... until the main library
> ordered ONE last week.



The overall concensus by film critics is the 'Julia' part is much better and
more interesting than the blogger 'Julie'. We all get inspired by
cookbooks...maybe we haven't 'cooked our way through one of them' (yet) or
created a blog about it. But apparently Julie simply isn't that
interesting, at least not according to the film critics. I don't think
she's boosted her book sales, either. Sorry, but the public simply isn't
that interested.

Jill

"jmcquown" ha scritto nel messaggio
> The overall concensus by film critics is the 'Julia' part is much better
> and > more interesting than the blogger 'Julie'. We all get inspired by >
> cookbooks...maybe we haven't 'cooked our way through one of them' (yet) or
> created a blog about it. But apparently Julie simply isn't that >
> interesting, at least not according to the film critics. I don't think >
> she's boosted her book sales, either. Sorry, but the public simply isn't
> > that interested.
>
> Jill

That's as may or may not be, but there is something quite interesting in the
example of a raw amateur writing a blog for a mere year and landing a
several hundred thousand dollar book contract as a result and then said book
being sold for a movie directed by a top director and starred by one of
America's icons. I cannot point to anyone here who has accomplished
anything like it, can you?

I can't even point to many outside this group who have achieved this
extremely modern version of making it.

wrote:
>That's as may or may not be, but there is something quite interesting in the
>example of a raw amateur writing a blog for a mere year and landing a
>several hundred thousand dollar book contract as a result and then said book
>being sold for a movie directed by a top director and starred by one of
>America's icons. I cannot point to anyone here who has accomplished
>anything like it, can you?
>I can't even point to many outside this group who have achieved this
>extremely modern version of making it.

Julie Powell's story obviously attracted a top director who saw merchandising
potential through its ties to Julia Child. If that's making it, I want no part
of it. I want people to know me because of what I've accomplished rather than
because of some stupid blog I wrote about cooking my way through Mastering The
Art Of French Cooking as a young and frustrated temp slave. Gosh, what's
admirable in that? People are only excited because some new buzz has been
created around cooking, which means that people will stock up no cookbooks as a
capitulation to trend mongering. There is as yet no proof that more actual
cooking from scratch is going on. Anyone can participate in a mad dash toward a
book shelf, make a purchase and display it prominently on another home
bookshelf.

Orlando

On 2009-08-17, Orlando Enrique Fiol > wrote:

> of it. I want people to know me because of what I've
> accomplished....

Which is why you are rapidly becoming persona non grata around here.
Relentless sniveling contributes nothing of interest, so give us a
recipe or food experience or shut the hell up!

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2009-08-17, Orlando Enrique Fiol > wrote:
>
>> of it. I want people to know me because of what I've
>> accomplished....
>
> Which is why you are rapidly becoming persona non grata around here.
> Relentless sniveling contributes nothing of interest, so give us a
> recipe or food experience or shut the hell up!
>
> nb



Orlando is a rare voice of reason around here, nb. Just IMHO

Jill

"Giusi" > wrote in message
...
>
> "jmcquown" ha scritto nel messaggio
>> The overall concensus by film critics is the 'Julia' part is much better
>> and > more interesting than the blogger 'Julie'. We all get inspired by
>> > cookbooks...maybe we haven't 'cooked our way through one of them' (yet)
>> or created a blog about it. But apparently Julie simply isn't that >
>> interesting, at least not according to the film critics. I don't think >
>> she's boosted her book sales, either. Sorry, but the public simply isn't
>> > that interested.
>>
>> Jill
>
> That's as may or may not be, but there is something quite interesting in
> the example of a raw amateur writing a blog for a mere year and landing a
> several hundred thousand dollar book contract as a result and then said
> book being sold for a movie directed by a top director and starred by one
> of America's icons.

I suppose it depends on your definition of America's "icons". I know who
Meryl Streep is and I know who Julia Child is. But I don't know Amy Adams
(who is american, even though she was born in Itlaly). I'm not much
interested in blogs.

> I cannot point to anyone here who has accomplished anything like it, can
> you?
>
Here on RFC? Sure. I guess you just haven't been around long enough to
notice.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> "Giusi" > wrote in message

>> I cannot point to anyone here who has accomplished anything like it,
>> can you?
>>
> Here on RFC? Sure. I guess you just haven't been around long enough to
> notice.
>
> Jill

Got anyone in mind? Who?

jmcquown wrote:
>Orlando is a rare voice of reason around here, nb. Just IMHO

Do you mean that as a compliment?

Orlando

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:02:52 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>"notbob" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2009-08-17, Orlando Enrique Fiol > wrote:
>>
>>> of it. I want people to know me because of what I've
>>> accomplished....
>>
>> Which is why you are rapidly becoming persona non grata around here.
>> Relentless sniveling contributes nothing of interest, so give us a
>> recipe or food experience or shut the hell up!
>>
>> nb
>
>Orlando is a rare voice of reason around here, nb. Just IMHO
>
Don't be so innocent. Orlando is one of many voices who are not who
they say they are and all of them are one person.


--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sf wrote:
>Don't be so innocent. Orlando is one of many voices who are not who
>they say they are and all of them are one person.



Wow! I didn't know that about myself. Who else is me? Or, who else am I?

Orlando

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:21:08 -0400, Orlando Enrique Fiol
> wrote:

>sf wrote:
>>Don't be so innocent. Orlando is one of many voices who are not who
>>they say they are and all of them are one person.
>
>Wow! I didn't know that about myself. Who else is me? Or, who else am I?
>
I killed a troll and your name went with it.

This part of "you" isn't dead yet, as you can see... but I'm not at
all confident that you are who you claim to be.


--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"Orlando Enrique Fiol" > wrote in message
. ..
> jmcquown wrote:
>>Orlando is a rare voice of reason around here, nb. Just IMHO
>
> Do you mean that as a compliment?
>
> Orlando



Of course

Jill

sf > wrote:
>I killed a troll and your name went with it.
>This part of "you" isn't dead yet, as you can see... but I'm not at
>all confident that you are who you claim to be.

Google my name and you'll find out that I am indeed totally blind from birth,
indeed a musician and poet, indeed a PhD candidate in ethnomusicology at Penn.
That should be enough.

Orlando

jmcquown > wrote:
>No offense, Chris, but I don't think they're going to make a movie about
>your blog. <wink>

You might have penetrated the heart of Christine's enthusiasm at seeing all the
Julia Child cookbooks at Borders sold out. Until people actually start cooking
again, I'm not holding my breath.

Orlando

"Orlando Enrique Fiol" ha scritto nel messaggio

I want people to know me because of what I've accomplished rather than >
because of some stupid blog I wrote about cooking my way through Mastering
The
> Art Of French Cooking as a young and frustrated temp slave.

She wrote a book and it was published. YOu obviously have no idea how
difficult it is to get published nowadays. Whether you like the blog or
not, she did write that too. She was rewarded for the concept and the work.

There are lots of ways of making it. You apparently hope to be lauded for
your sensitivity to minorities-- ior at least that's all I have seen so far
fom you.

So exactly what have you accomplished as compared to a successful published
author?

Giusi > wrote:
>She wrote a book and it was published. You obviously have no idea how
>difficult it is to get published nowadays.

You seem to think publishing is a measure of quality when it is often just a
measure of faddish exploitation of seemingly good stories with momentary
appeal.

>Whether you like the blog or not, she did write that too. She was rewarded
for the concept and the work.

Great for her! That doesn't mean I have to concur with whomever's judgment
rewarded her. That doesn't mean I have to shut up like a good little soldier
because the publishing world has spoken. I do not quake in my boots when any
two-bit mediocre author gets published because she knows the right people, has
slept around or has come up with this week's fad.

>There are lots of ways of making it. You apparently hope to be lauded for
>your sensitivity to minorities-- ior at least that's all I have seen so far
>from you.

How little you know.

>So exactly what have you accomplished as compared to a successful published
>author?

A successful published author does not have her career measured by a single
work so soon after publication. As for what I've done, I've toured all over the
world playing classical and salsa piano, taught privately, at music school and
universities, studied Afro-Cuban drumming in Cuba and Indian classical music in
India on a research grant. I have recorded with some of the best jazz, indie
and latin musicians on the east coast and am now in Penn's PhD ethnomusicology
program. But, none of that should have had to be revealed for my opinion to be
taken seriously. According to your logic, I have no right to criticize a
published author's work unless I myself am a published author or someone of
sufficient status to make my opinion worthy of being expressed. News flash! My
and anyone else's opinions are valuable regardless of who we are or what we've
accomplished, whether we're university professors, politicians, professional
artists, office drones, retirees, drug addicts, soccer mothers or homeless
vagabonds. Every human being has a right to be heard, appreciated and
respected. Plenty of people are obviously listening to Julie Powell's flimsy
story tying her to Julia Child. Plenty of people have evidently rediscovered
Julia Child, which is great for her estate and her culinary legacy. I love
Julia Child's work and have learned scads about French cooking from her
television shows and cookbooks. But, my love for Julia's work has not blinded
me to the potential for this movie being yet another stupid fad that doesn't
bring American any closer to better nutrition or cooking from scratch.

Orlando

"Orlando Enrique Fiol" ha scritto nel messaggio

> Giusi > wrote:

>>She wrote a book and it was published. You obviously have no idea how
>> >>difficult it is to get published nowadays.
>
> You seem to think publishing is a measure of quality when it is often just
> a > measure of faddish exploitation of seemingly good stories with
> momentary > appeal.

No, I said it is a measure of success.

I also believe you have the right to criticize if you have read/seen/know
the work. Lots of folks here feel perfectly free to castigate anything
whether they have ever seen it, heard it or in any other way come in contact
with it other than perhaps reading someone's opinion. I don't know whether
that applies to you in this case.

Giusi > wrote:
>No, I said it is a measure of success.

My success or lack thereof has nothing to do with my right to an opinion on the
current Julia obsession.

>I also believe you have the right to criticize if you have read/seen/know
>the work. Lots of folks here feel perfectly free to castigate anything
>whether they have ever seen it, heard it or in any other way come in contact
>with it other than perhaps reading someone's opinion. I don't know whether
>that applies to you in this case.

It sure does. If that disqualifies me from the right to an opinion, use your
trusty delete key because I do not intend to stop speaking my mind. To be
clear, I have nothing against Julia Child or her decades of dedication to
French cuisine. However, Julie Powell sounds like a bored young rich girl with
nothing better to do than work through Julia's tome as a gimmick of sorts.
Furthermore, unlike Christine, I gage enduring interest in cooking by how much
people actually cook rather than which cookbooks they buy. Anyone can buy a
cookbook whether or not they intend to cook from it. It is therefore unsound to
conclude anything about any shift in America's culinary habits until people are
seen to be actually cooking rather than going to a movie or buying cookbooks.
Now, for a cookbook maven like Christine, she may think that the mere purchase
of cookbooks points to something positive. But, to me, it's just simple
hoarding when people collect stuff they never use. It's the same as people who
have every conceivable kitchen gadget in their closets and garages or every
spice known to humanity when they only use salt and pepper.

Orlando

"Orlando Enrique Fiol" ha scritto nel messaggio

>>I also believe you have the right to criticize if you have read/seen/know
>> >>the work.

If that disqualifies me from the right to an opinion, use your > trusty
delete key because I do not intend to stop speaking my mind.

OK, you can go, because you admit to knowing nothing about the blog, the
book or the movie and continue to rail againsyt the whole concept. I
consider that the height of stupidity and have no time to bother with
someone whose entire take is prejudice.

Giusi > wrote:
>OK, you can go, because you admit to knowing nothing about the blog, the
>book or the movie and continue to rail againsyt the whole concept. I
>consider that the height of stupidity and have no time to bother with
>someone whose entire take is prejudice.

You are entirely free to ignore my posts about this or any other topic; no one
is obligating you to respond to me or even read my posts.

Orlando

Christine Dabney > wrote:
>I collect cookbooks, because I am fascinated by them. I love reading
>them, and I read them like novels.

I too read cookbooks like novels, but after you've read a hundred recipes using
the same ingredients and cooking procedures, repetitious patterns emerge.

>I also use many of them....and
>use the rest for inspiration in the kitchen: I get ideas for menus,
>dishes, etc. To suggest I don't use them is very much NOT true.

Since I had no idea how you use your cookbooks, I was speaking in general terms
rather than specifically about you.

>If one goes through many of my cookbooks, there are blotches on pages,
>stains on another page, from when I have been cooking from it.

Wonderful! I scan mine on to my hard drive mostly because print does me no good
and because I want to avoid blotching and staining the books.

>I don't collect them just to collect them..that would bore me to
>tears. I collect them because I thoroughly enjoy them.

I thoroughly enjoy eating food; I only partially enjoy reading about it.

>A great cookbook can be a great read. And it is the story of
>culture..a story about of how we live.

It's much better to eat and interact with people from different cultures than
simply read their recipes.

>Maybe other people collect them just to collect them. That is
>certainly not true for me. I pick and choose which ones I buy.. And
>I don't buy to just collect. I just like the genre.

That's fine for you.

>Same with Sci-fi/fantasy. I have a library of that as well..and I
>reread those constantly. And when I discover a new author that tells
>a good story, I read as much as I can of that author.

I do the same with authors, musicians and composers.

>The same is true of the cookbooks. There are particular cooks that
>really appeal to me. and when they put out new books, I check them
>out. Or when I hear about older books, that exhibit a particular
>merit in some fashion or another, I check those out.

I usually don't bother. If I really want to make a dish I've eaten, I usually
either ask someone I trust from that culture or compare recipes online based on
what I was able to taste.

>I frequent a lot of food forums, where there are a lot of people knowledgeable
about food, cooking, cookbooks old and new. Sometimes they start talking a
>particular book..and it may intrigue me. Maybe the writing is
>described, or the stories in the book..or maybe the style of cooking
>is something that is beginning to appeal to me. There are a myriad of
>reasons why I might focus on particular books.

Gosh, that's an awful lot of time to devote to cookbooks and food fora. I
simply couldn't do it with my school, performance and teaching duties.

>I think you misunderstand why a few of us so thoroughly enjoy our
>cookbooks.

I don't think I do, but we can respectfully disagree. I think you get a
vicarious thrill from holding a tangible piece of another culture in your hand
from which you might someday cook. I doubt that thousands of your books are
bespattered with food stains from your cooking with them. I also don't get the
sense that you cook foods from many cultures, based on years of your posts
telling us what you plan to cook. I also find it difficult to take you
seriously when you set yourself the pretentious challenge of eating on a
ridiculously low budget, all the while probably continuing to collect your
cookbooks. It seems hypocritical to deny yourself actual food while collecting
other people's writings about it. But, to each her own.

Orlando

On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:15:46 -0400, Orlando Enrique Fiol
> wrote:

>I have nothing against Julia Child or her decades of dedication to
>French cuisine. However, Julie Powell sounds like a bored young rich girl with
>nothing better to do than work through Julia's tome as a gimmick of sorts.

To be perfectly honest, I haven't seen the movie and I haven't
researched this Julia character much... but I remember a book called
"Julie and Julia: 365 Days, 524 Recipes, 1 Tiny Apartment Kitchen".
Julie was born in 1973, but for some reason I remember the book as
being from the '80s. <sigh>

In any case, I'm glad to see that Nora Ephron is still in business.
She's a woman's woman.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Orlando wrote:

>> There are lots of ways of making it. You apparently hope to be lauded
>> for your sensitivity to minorities-- ior at least that's all I have seen
>> so far from you.
>
> How little you know.

Maybe you should post something OTHER than your racist down-with-the-rich
whitey-is-bad I-hate-mainstream-America shit; then you might present a
fuller picture. Newbies to Usenet often have the expectation that they
deserve respect because of something other than what they write on Usenet.
But that's ALL the readers know about you, and your body of work here is
nothing but a bunch of relentless sniveling, as notbob put it.

Have you *ever* posted a recipe? Do you even know anything AT ALL about
cooking?

Bob

Bob Terwilliger > wrote:
>Have you *ever* posted a recipe? Do you even know anything AT ALL about
>cooking?

I know a lot about cooking and have plenty of collected recipes I could post.
When I cook, I never write things down or measure because my memory is good. I
doubt most chefs use written recipes either.

Orlando

Orlando wrote:

> However, Julie Powell sounds like a bored young rich girl with nothing
> better to do than work through Julia's tome as a gimmick of sorts.

LOL... Earlier you described her as a "temp slave." I don't know many temps
who are rolling in cash.

You're not even CONSISTENT in your blathering!

Bob

Giusi wrote to Orlando:

> OK, you can go, because you admit to knowing nothing about the blog, the
> book or the movie and continue to rail againsyt the whole concept. I
> consider that the height of stupidity and have no time to bother with
> someone whose entire take is prejudice.

EVERY post of Orlando's is about prejudice! And they're pretty much all the
height of stupidity, too.

But it's kind of funny to run across such a racial chauvinist. Orlando
reminds me a bit of Moe from the Three Stooges. Moe always has grandiose
designs, but a complete inability to grasp the big picture.

Bob

Christine wrote:

> I think you misunderstand why a few of us so thoroughly enjoy our
> cookbooks.

Heh... Orlando misunderstands almost every aspect of society. By his set of
values, YOUR opinion is worthless, because you are white. He believes that
you have been HANDED your education, and you receive privileges and wealth
because of the color of your skin.

Bob
P.S.: Please don't tell him about the secret mountain of gold which
spontaneously appears each time a white child is born. That knowledge is
only entrusted to neo-natal personnel. And don't let him know about the army
of non-white servants which every white person commands, or about the secret
mansion retreats where whites hobnob and plot to keep non-whites
impoverished; it would only disturb him to know.

Orlando wrote:

> It's much better to eat and interact with people from different cultures
> than simply read their recipes.

Better yet is to learn how to COOK the food from different cultures! Maybe
you can learn it so well you could open a restaurant to rob native chefs of
opportunity and make BIG BUCKS, like Rick Bayless -- who surely MUST be a
billionaire -- has done!

Bob

Orlando wrote:

>> Have you *ever* posted a recipe? Do you even know anything AT ALL about
>> cooking?
>
> I know a lot about cooking and have plenty of collected recipes I could
> post. When I cook, I never write things down or measure because my memory
> is good. I doubt most chefs use written recipes either.

Well, isn't this the perfect place to post your recipes? Why do you pursue a
line of discussion which makes you a laughingstock instead of posting about
food or cooking? Are you unaware that this group *exists* to discuss food
and cooking? I mean, it's right there in the name, rec.*FOOD*.*COOKING*

Bob

Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:

> Bob Terwilliger > wrote:
>>Have you *ever* posted a recipe? Do you even know anything AT ALL
>>about cooking?
>
> I know a lot about cooking and have plenty of collected recipes I
> could post.


Funny, don't recall you posting any recipes. Or did I miss something?


> When I cook, I never write things down or measure because
> my memory is good. I doubt most chefs use written recipes either.

I doubt it too. They either open up restaurants and make a mint of money
and/or publish cookbooks of their own recipes. Some of them even have
their own TV cooking shows which probably lines their pockets a little
more.

If you're as good as you say you are, nothing stopping you making money
out of your talent either, now is there? Oh wait, you're one quarter
Mexican - so scratch that idea...

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Aug 18, 5:21*am, "Bob Terwilliger" >
wrote:
> Christine wrote:
> > I think you misunderstand why a few of us so thoroughly enjoy our
> > cookbooks.
>
> Heh... Orlando misunderstands almost every aspect of society. By his set of
> values, YOUR opinion is worthless, because you are white. He believes that
> you have been HANDED your education, and you receive privileges and wealth
> because of the color of your skin.
>
> Bob
> P.S.: Please don't tell him about the secret mountain of gold which
> spontaneously appears each time a white child is born. That knowledge is
> only entrusted to neo-natal personnel. And don't let him know about the army
> of non-white servants which every white person commands, or about the secret
> mansion retreats where whites hobnob and plot to keep non-whites
> impoverished; it would only disturb him to know.

Reading this brought back memories of Sounder, which is not surprising
since I just watched it last night. It was really weird watching that
with my son, who just started second grade, and he's the only White
kid at his bus stop.

--Bryan

On Aug 18, 6:10*am, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:
> On Aug 18, 5:21*am, "Bob Terwilliger" >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Christine wrote:
> > > I think you misunderstand why a few of us so thoroughly enjoy our
> > > cookbooks.
>
> > Heh... Orlando misunderstands almost every aspect of society. By his set of
> > values, YOUR opinion is worthless, because you are white. He believes that
> > you have been HANDED your education, and you receive privileges and wealth
> > because of the color of your skin.
>
> > Bob
> > P.S.: Please don't tell him about the secret mountain of gold which
> > spontaneously appears each time a white child is born. That knowledge is
> > only entrusted to neo-natal personnel. And don't let him know about the army
> > of non-white servants which every white person commands, or about the secret
> > mansion retreats where whites hobnob and plot to keep non-whites
> > impoverished; it would only disturb him to know.
>
> Reading this brought back memories of Sounder, which is not surprising
> since I just watched it last night. *It was really weird watching that
> with my son, who just started second grade, and he's the only White
> kid at his bus stop.
>
> --Bryan

SECOND GRADE??!!! Damn, they do grow like weeds, eh? My son's 21 YO
and starting his senior year in college this year, and going to Dublin
Ireland with the AES program for it. (sniff! :-( )

My little boy has grown up!

John Kuthe...

Giusi wrote:

> That's as may or may not be, but there is something quite interesting
> in the example of a raw amateur writing a blog for a mere year and
> landing a several hundred thousand dollar book contract as a result
> and then said book being sold for a movie directed by a top director
> and starred by one of America's icons.

Somehow she came to the attention of the New York Times, which
published an article about her and her blog. I imagine that's when I
heard of her, that other media picked it up. I really don't remember
where I learned of the whole thing.

Anyway, I enjoyed the movie and I didn't find Julie's part to be boring
or uninteresting. I certainly didn't sit through a two hour movie being
alternately bored and enthralled.

Enchanté!

nancy

On 2009-08-18, Giusi > wrote:

> She wrote a book and it was published. YOu obviously have no idea how
> difficult it is to get published nowadays.

Yeah, we do. In fact, most of the regulars in this group have been
published. If you're real nice, we might let you buy one of our
books.

nb