Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
> On Aug 18, 1:36 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>> wrote:
>> While I couldn't agree with you more (I think that about a lot of things
>> people eat) cilantro can be difficult to avoid. If you eat out, sometimes
>> you find most of the items on the menu contain the flavor/food du jour.
>> I have found myself downing guacamole infested with cilantro
>
> Any place that puts cilantro into their guac, I don't eat there again.
>> nancy
>
> --Bryan

Since you do not eat out unless it is fast food I doubt that comes up
too often if at all.

ns

Bobo Bonobo® wrote:

> I find that the leaves do not "taste like soap," or taste bad at all,
> but the stems taste bad. If you carefully cut off the leaves and
> discard the stems, you'll get a much subtler flavor.

Please define taste bad. Do the stems taste like soap?

notbob wrote:
> On 2009-08-18, Terry > wrote:
>
>> cilantro tasted like soap. Now I understand. But clearly there's a
>> variable that we aren't getting. Is it the particular variety of
>> cilantro? Is it the difference between fresh and frozen? The age?
>> The pH? The water?
>
> Last I heard, it was a genetic thing.

See Arri London's post above then rethink your post. It is NOT fully
genetic if at all. Can you post a link or published article reference
that proves which gene or genes are involved?

On Aug 20, 6:47*am, nospam > wrote:
> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
> > I find that the leaves do not "taste like soap," or taste bad at all,
> > but the stems taste bad. *If you carefully cut off the leaves and
> > discard the stems, you'll get a much subtler flavor.
>
> Please define taste bad. Do the stems taste like soap?

Not soapy, but astringent, and reminiscent of bad aftershave lotion.

--Bryan

On Aug 20, 6:42*am, nospam > wrote:
> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
> > On Aug 18, 1:36 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> >> wrote:
> >> While I couldn't agree with you more (I think that about a lot of things
> >> people eat) cilantro can be difficult to avoid. *If you eat out, sometimes
> >> you find most of the items on the menu contain the flavor/food du jour..
> >> I have found myself downing guacamole infested with cilantro
>
> > Any place that puts cilantro into their guac, I don't eat there again.
> >> nancy
>
> > --Bryan
>
> Since you do not eat out unless it is fast food *I doubt that comes up
> too often if at all.

I do eat out other than fast food. On vacation last week, we ate at
restaurants the whole time. Only once did we stop at fast food
because my son really wanted McD's, and neither my wife or I were
hungry at the time. Yesterday I had lunch at a Mexican restaurant
(not Del Taco).
>
> ns

--Bryan

On 2009-08-20, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:

> Not soapy, but astringent, and reminiscent of bad aftershave lotion.

Strangely enough, I jes happen to know how bad aftershave lotion
tastes, so I have to disagree. It's not likely you'll taste
cilantro.... 12 HRS LATER!

nb

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:50:29 -0700, cl wrote:

> notbob wrote:
>> On 2009-08-18, Terry > wrote:
>>
>>> cilantro tasted like soap. Now I understand. But clearly there's a
>>> variable that we aren't getting. Is it the particular variety of
>>> cilantro? Is it the difference between fresh and frozen? The age?
>>> The pH? The water?
>>
>> Last I heard, it was a genetic thing.
>
> See Arri London's post above then rethink your post. It is NOT fully
> genetic if at all. Can you post a link or published article reference
> that proves which gene or genes are involved?

i don't think isolating the specific gene for cilantro taste is at the top
of researchers' lists right now. might be a shame, but there it is.

blake

On Aug 20, 9:36*am, notbob > wrote:
> On 2009-08-20, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:
>
> > Not soapy, but astringent, and reminiscent of bad aftershave lotion.
>
> Strangely enough, I jes happen to know how bad aftershave lotion
> tastes, so I have to disagree. *It's not likely you'll taste
> cilantro.... *12 HRS LATER! *

I meant reminiscent of how aftershave smells. I can't understand
folks who think that aftershave, cologne, perfume, scented
antiperspirant/deodorant or scented laundry detergent makes them smell
good. The icky AA people who meet at my place of employment stink of
cigarettes, cheap coffee, and aftershave. They start putting it on to
cover up their booze smell, but when they get dry, they forget to lose
the stink.
I think I'd rather die of alcohol-related illness than have to be in
the same room with those people.
>
> nb

--Bryan

On 2009-08-20, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:

> cigarettes, cheap coffee, and aftershave.

Dang! You must have one sensitive nose to smell the quality of coffee
between aftershave and cigarettes. I'm afraid you are doomed to go
throughout life offended by most everyone. OTOH, must be handy for
amore!

nb

On Aug 20, 11:31*am, notbob > wrote:
> On 2009-08-20, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:
>
> > cigarettes, cheap coffee, and aftershave. *
>
> Dang! *You must have one sensitive nose to smell the quality of coffee
> between aftershave and cigarettes. *I'm afraid you are doomed to go
> throughout life offended by most everyone. *OTOH, must be handy for
> amore! *

Right on both accounts. It also means increased enjoyment of food,
which leads to being overweight. I pretty much quit drinking
completely recently (only very special occasions), and since 99+% of
the time drinking meant beer, that should help with the weight issue.
>
> nb *

--Bryan

Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
> On vacation last week, we ate at restaurants the whole time.

Yeah sure you ate at fast food restaurants the whole time. They are
called restaurants too.

> Yesterday I had lunch at a Mexican restaurant (not Del Taco).

So you are at Taco Bell or some other fast food restaurant instead of
Smell Taco.

Terry wrote:
>
>
> I love cilantro. Or at least I did until this weekend. Visiting a
> friend in WI, he took me to a local Mexican restaurant***. Salsa had
> what appeared to be fresh cilantro. It tasted like soap!!
>
> I've not encountered this before. Never understood why people thought
> cilantro tasted like soap. Now I understand. But clearly there's a
> variable that we aren't getting. Is it the particular variety of
> cilantro? Is it the difference between fresh and frozen? The age?
> The pH? The water?


Interesting. My experience with cilantro was in reverse to yours.
I lived in Hollywood for years and ate mostly mexican and thai food,
cheap. Several times I ordered something at this one thai place and
thought they hadn't rinsed off the plates properly. I told the person
I was with, who said they didn't notice anything. But we had ordered
different dishes. Then one day I just figured it out, don't know
how. I like cilantro, but when I first encountered that soapy taste
(or smell), I had no idea what it was or if it was even food. It
didn't smell like just any soap, it reminded me of the old golf course
soap used to wash golf balls, a kind of refreshing smell memory from
my youth. I developed a liking for cilantro in spite of that soapy
taste. I can't answer any of your questions as to why you sometimes
notice it and other times don't, but it's interesting that you mention
it because I have often asked people since if they don't think
cilantro smells like soap, specifically the kind found in golf course
ball cleaning machines, and everyone so far has said no, they didn't
notice it. Glad to know I'm not alone. I think expectations mean a
lot with food. I remember one time years ago walking down the blvd
and seeing a guy in a shop ordering a huge swirling cone of soft
icecream. I walked in and when they asked what I wanted, I said,
"What he's got!" So they gave it to me and I paid and walked out.
The first taste I nearly threw up. It was yogurt. This was back in
the 70s when frozen yogurt still tasted like yogurt. The thing is, I
was raised on plain yogurt and like it. But I was not expecting
yogurt, so I thought it was icecream that had gone sour. Expectations
mean a lot with food.

Tommy Joe

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:10:00 -0700 (PDT), Bobo Bonobo® wrote:

> On Aug 20, 9:36*am, notbob > wrote:
>> On 2009-08-20, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:
>>
>>> Not soapy, but astringent, and reminiscent of bad aftershave lotion.
>>
>> Strangely enough, I jes happen to know how bad aftershave lotion
>> tastes, so I have to disagree. *It's not likely you'll taste
>> cilantro.... *12 HRS LATER! *
>
> I meant reminiscent of how aftershave smells. I can't understand
> folks who think that aftershave, cologne, perfume, scented
> antiperspirant/deodorant or scented laundry detergent makes them smell
> good. The icky AA people who meet at my place of employment stink of
> cigarettes, cheap coffee, and aftershave. They start putting it on to
> cover up their booze smell, but when they get dry, they forget to lose
> the stink.
> I think I'd rather die of alcohol-related illness than have to be in
> the same room with those people.
>>

well, this is a refreshing change, wishing for your own death rather than
that of substandard people.

blake

On Aug 21, 6:44*pm, blake murphy > wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:10:00 -0700 (PDT), Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
> > On Aug 20, 9:36*am, notbob > wrote:
> >> On 2009-08-20, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:
>
> >>> Not soapy, but astringent, and reminiscent of bad aftershave lotion.
>
> >> Strangely enough, I jes happen to know how bad aftershave lotion
> >> tastes, so I have to disagree. *It's not likely you'll taste
> >> cilantro.... *12 HRS LATER! *
>
> > I meant reminiscent of how aftershave smells. *I can't understand
> > folks who think that aftershave, cologne, perfume, scented
> > antiperspirant/deodorant or scented laundry detergent makes them smell
> > good. *The icky AA people who meet at my place of employment stink of
> > cigarettes, cheap coffee, and aftershave. *They start putting it on to
> > cover up their booze smell, but when they get dry, they forget to lose
> > the stink.
> > I think I'd rather die of alcohol-related illness than have to be in
> > the same room with those people.
>
> well, this is a refreshing change, wishing for your own
> death rather than that of substandard people.

Well, I rather that they all die. Then they'd have an excuse for
stinking.
Dead people stink.
>
> blake

--Bryan