In article >,
"Jean B." > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > Cuban. Hands down. At a rather fancy place in Miami Florida.
> > It was compliments of Coulter Electronics when I was there for a
> > training seminar. It got bad reviews by our entire class so they
> > decided to not use that place any more.
> >
> > The service was fantastic but the food was awful...
>
> But is that indicative of the cuisine, or is it just that
> restaurant (fancy doesn't necessarily mean good)--or the choices
> made there?

First impressions and one bad experience... <g>
I'm willing to reconsider based on the responses to this thread.

>
> The worst food I have had was Bangladeshi, but I think that was
> the restaurant's fault. They were probably catering to what they
> perceive as American tastes, since it was excruciatingly bland.
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"Jean B." > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:22:26 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> The cuisines which I find unappealing are Filipino (too plain)
> >
> > Filipino food court type food isn't too plain - it's too greasy. In
> > fact, it's just plain awful! Good Filipino food is home cooking and
> > although they often cook for a crowd at home, it just doesn't
> > translate well to food for the masses (held in a chafing dish at a
> > food court). Ugh.
> >
> > I have many fond memories of a Filipino friend in HS whose home I was
> > always welcome to. We headed to her home after school and there was
> > always be something yummy simmering on the stove for us to eat.
> >
> I had a Filipino neighbor and friend many years ago, and her food
> was quite good. By now my memory of her beef tongue has faded,
> but even much closer to the time, I never managed to re-create
> that. It was sublime.

Mom made a mean beef tongue. Main ingredients were onions, garlic and
horseradish.
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"brooklyn1" > wrote:

> If I had to choose the absolute worst cousine I don't need to think about
> it, the worst I've ever eaten is Indian food... and I've tried quite a few
> highly touted restaurants thinking it was poor luck of the draw, NOT!, they
> all serve food that is literally greasy shit, it stinks like shit to boot.

I have yet to have good Indian food. And I've tried it more than once.
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blake murphy > wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:56:30 -0700 (PDT), aem wrote:
>
> > On Aug 19, 6:58*pm, Omelet > wrote:
> >> Cuban. Hands down. At a rather fancy place in Miami Florida.
> >> It was compliments of Coulter Electronics when I was there for a
> >> training seminar. *It got bad reviews by our entire class so they
> >> decided to not use that place any more.
> >>
> >> The service was fantastic but the food was awful...
> >>
> > Gosh. Cuban food is wonderful, and Miami has the biggest Cuban
> > population, so go figure. No doubt much better food was available at
> > many lower priced places. You must have got steered to a classic
> > tourist trap. Too bad, but I hope it doesn't put you off from trying
> > Cuban food again. -aem
>
> a good cuban sandwich is hard to beat:
>
> <http://latinfood.about.com/od/cuba/r/cuban_sanwich.htm>
>
> <http://www.tasteofcuba.com/cubansandwich.html>
>
> your pal,
> blake

Thanks Blake. :-)
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"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> Sheldon wrote:
>
> > Gosh. Cuban food is wonderful, and Miami has the biggest Cuban
> > population, so go figure. No doubt much better food was available at
> > many lower priced places. You must have got steered to a classic
> > tourist trap.
>
> Years ago in Miami, my father couldn't stop laughing about one restaurant's
> name: The Yankee Clipper. Talk about a double meaning!
>
> Bob

Nice innuendo. <g>
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>,
aem > wrote:

> On Aug 20, 7:18*am, Doug Freyburger > wrote:
> > [snip]
> > I recall a Cuban place in Pasadena that served some
> > dishes that I though showed heavy German/Austrian
> > influence. * .....There was a rolled dish that struck me as
> > Rolladen with a different sauce. *Quite delicious. *I
> > haven't seen that dish at other Cuban places I've tried
> > and I miss it.
>
> Might have been a dish called "Bistec en Rollo." Flank steak layered
> with smoked ham, spread with carrot and onion, seasoned (garlic, lemon
> juice, brown sugar), rolled and tied. Then browned and braised.
> Sauce/braising liquid includes red wine, bay leaf, tomatoes. I have
> no idea if the precursor was German or not. -aem

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aem > wrote:

> On Aug 19, 6:58*pm, Omelet > wrote:
> > Cuban. Hands down. At a rather fancy place in Miami Florida.
> > It was compliments of Coulter Electronics when I was there for a
> > training seminar. *It got bad reviews by our entire class so they
> > decided to not use that place any more.
> >
> > The service was fantastic but the food was awful...
> > --
> It seems to me the "worst" usually means the most disappointing, and
> that implies you have some expectations going in. So I'd have to say
> "American" has been the worst because I know what I expect and then
> have got something worse. Hard biscuits and library paste gravy;
> godawful burgers; greasy limp fries; sickly sweet bbq sauce over dried
> out ribs, etc., etc. -aem

<lol> Good response! I suspect like me at that restaurant, you've not
eaten at the right places...

It just seemed to me like they really made an effort to trot out their
best. I suspect they just had a chef with bad taste.
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>,
John Kane > wrote:

> On Aug 19, 9:58*pm, Omelet > wrote:
> > Cuban. Hands down. At a rather fancy place in Miami Florida.
>
> Outside Mom's ? She was a great baker but you would have had to have
> seen her scrambled eggs to believe them.
>
> John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

<laughs> I've read similar stories!
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John Kane > wrote:

> * 1 Loaf of Cuban Bread (Substitutes: French or Italian Bread)
> * 1 pound ham (cooked and sliced)
> * 1 pound roasted (cooked and sliced) ??????
> * 1/2 pound Swiss cheese (sliced)
> * dill pickles (sliced)
> * Yellow mustard or Mayonnaise

Sounds almost German if you use Rye bread. <g>

And add some fermented cabbage...
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sf > wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:58:13 -0500, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >Cuban. Hands down. At a rather fancy place in Miami Florida.
> >It was compliments of Coulter Electronics when I was there for a
> >training seminar. It got bad reviews by our entire class so they
> >decided to not use that place any more.
> >
> >The service was fantastic but the food was awful...
>
> I haven't been there yet, but people I know who have visited Greece
> consistently comment to me that they hated the food. One friend even
> went so far as to add that the best Greek food is found in Astoria.
> Can't prove anything by me, I'm just the reporter.

We have a local Greek restaurant that's not bad at all. I like their
Dolmas especially!

But, this is a college town...
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>,
Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig > wrote:

> TEHO! Some of the BEST food I've ever eaten was Cuban! Restaurant in
> Little Havana in Miami - "Versailles" (? ! ?) on Calle Ocho. Lamb
> shanks braised in some really dark red sauce, fried plantains, black
> beans & rice. Not expensive. This restaurant is attracts lots of
> tourists, but many Cubans too! It's kind of a cultural headquarters
> in Miami. THE BEST MOJITO IN THE UNIVERSE!
>
> Bad stuff: Chinese Buffets - ALL of 'em. Heavy southern Italian (OK
> - so it was in Minnesota and patterned after a prohibition era Chicago
> joint) where everything was covered with waaaaay thick red sauce and
> gummy mozzarella. Even the salad was heavy.
>
> Worst anything anywhe "Tournedos Rossini" at a now defunct fancy
> schmancy place (also in Minny Soda) One filet mignon halved crosswise
> on some kind of rusk or flat muffin with (marinated) canned artichoke
> bottoms and a redish sauce that tasted like Kraft French dressing. No
> truffles anywhere!
>
> Lynn in Fargo
> Heavily into Middle Eastern/North African food (when I have teeth)

<lol> One of our favorite local restaurants is a Chinese buffet.

I need to post a pic series of it one of these years. ;-) Heavy on the
garlic and ginger... and probably Oyster sauce.

I guess I should not let one bad experience put me off the entire
cuisine.

It's like some people I've met that had one bad experience with one bad
Chiro' that made them condemn them all...
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> George Shirley > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>> Cuban. Hands down. At a rather fancy place in Miami Florida.
>>> It was compliments of Coulter Electronics when I was there for a
>>> training seminar. It got bad reviews by our entire class so they
>>> decided to not use that place any more.
>>>
>>> The service was fantastic but the food was awful...
>> Nepalese cuisine. Went to a festival being held in Bangkok one time. The
>> Nepalese folks looked like Navaho's to me, braided hair, velveteen
>> skirts, heavy silver and turquoise jewelry. They were wonderful. The
>> food was like the worse food ever exported from India. Gag! I'm almost
>> certain it wasn't indicative of the whole nations food.
>
> What was the main item(s) being served?
Some sort of curry, unidentifiable meat, unknown, overcooked vegetables,
the whole shmear was terrible. Even the Indian couple next to us
complained of the food.

In article >,
notbob > wrote:

> I've been reading this thread with some dismay.

Hey, at least it turned out to be an interesting and educational thread.
<g> I came up with it on a whim right before I left for work last
night.

I've been utterly fascinated by the responses, and I'm always open to
new ideas...

and new cuisines.

Looks like others are enjoying the subject too, and it's on topic!
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "brooklyn1" > wrote:
>
>> If I had to choose the absolute worst cousine I don't need to think about
>> it, the worst I've ever eaten is Indian food... and I've tried quite a few
>> highly touted restaurants thinking it was poor luck of the draw, NOT!, they
>> all serve food that is literally greasy shit, it stinks like shit to boot.
>
> I have yet to have good Indian food. And I've tried it more than once.
Hear, hear! I have yet to understand the fascination with the stuff. DIL
took us to an Indian restaurant in Houston, raved about the food, etc.
It totally sucked!

sf wrote on Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:08:05 -0700:

>> IHMO, if you like Indian food, the next
>> best place on earth to find it would be in South Africa;
>> there is a huge Indian population here

> That's another MCINL for the current survey. Indian food.
> Not interested in reading about it and certainly don't want to
> cook it.

How can you blanket condemn the food of a subcontinent? There are many
distinct versions of Indian cooking and I venture to suggest that you've
hardly tried any of them. IMHO, there is no national cuisine that I
would despise.

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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "brooklyn1" > wrote:
>
>> If I had to choose the absolute worst cousine I don't need to think about
>> it, the worst I've ever eaten is Indian food... and I've tried quite a
>> few
>> highly touted restaurants thinking it was poor luck of the draw, NOT!,
>> they
>> all serve food that is literally greasy shit, it stinks like shit to
>> boot.
>
> I have yet to have good Indian food. And I've tried it more than once.
> --

I've had really good Indian food many times, and have a very good place down
the street from work. Unfortunately, I'm not knowledgeable enough in the
cuisine to have an idea what constitutes really excellent Indian food.

Jon

In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > George Shirley > wrote:
> >
> >> Omelet wrote:
> >>> Cuban. Hands down. At a rather fancy place in Miami Florida.
> >>> It was compliments of Coulter Electronics when I was there for a
> >>> training seminar. It got bad reviews by our entire class so they
> >>> decided to not use that place any more.
> >>>
> >>> The service was fantastic but the food was awful...
> >> Nepalese cuisine. Went to a festival being held in Bangkok one time. The
> >> Nepalese folks looked like Navaho's to me, braided hair, velveteen
> >> skirts, heavy silver and turquoise jewelry. They were wonderful. The
> >> food was like the worse food ever exported from India. Gag! I'm almost
> >> certain it wasn't indicative of the whole nations food.
> >
> > What was the main item(s) being served?
> Some sort of curry, unidentifiable meat, unknown, overcooked vegetables,
> the whole shmear was terrible. Even the Indian couple next to us
> complained of the food.

Sounds like Indian food.
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In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "brooklyn1" > wrote:
> >
> >> If I had to choose the absolute worst cousine I don't need to think about
> >> it, the worst I've ever eaten is Indian food... and I've tried quite a few
> >> highly touted restaurants thinking it was poor luck of the draw, NOT!,
> >> they
> >> all serve food that is literally greasy shit, it stinks like shit to boot.
> >
> > I have yet to have good Indian food. And I've tried it more than once.
>
> Hear, hear! I have yet to understand the fascination with the stuff. DIL
> took us to an Indian restaurant in Houston, raved about the food, etc.
> It totally sucked!

My brother in law is fond of it, but I don't plan to waste the money
again.
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In article >,
"Zeppo" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > "brooklyn1" > wrote:
> >
> >> If I had to choose the absolute worst cousine I don't need to think about
> >> it, the worst I've ever eaten is Indian food... and I've tried quite a
> >> few
> >> highly touted restaurants thinking it was poor luck of the draw, NOT!,
> >> they
> >> all serve food that is literally greasy shit, it stinks like shit to
> >> boot.
> >
> > I have yet to have good Indian food. And I've tried it more than once.
> > --
>
> I've had really good Indian food many times, and have a very good place down
> the street from work. Unfortunately, I'm not knowledgeable enough in the
> cuisine to have an idea what constitutes really excellent Indian food.
>
> Jon

What dishes do you like and what do they consist of?
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:19:32 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>Indian food comes up here that often? Can't say I've noticed. Sure
>you're not confusing r.f.c. with another group?

See? That's how much I don't like the topic. I notice every time
someone mentions it.

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:56:00 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

> sf wrote on Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:08:05 -0700:
>
>>> IHMO, if you like Indian food, the next
>>> best place on earth to find it would be in South Africa;
>>> there is a huge Indian population here
>
>> That's another MCINL for the current survey. Indian food.
>> Not interested in reading about it and certainly don't want to
>> cook it.
>
>How can you blanket condemn the food of a subcontinent? There are many
>distinct versions of Indian cooking and I venture to suggest that you've
>hardly tried any of them. IMHO, there is no national cuisine that I
>would despise.

I'm not saying I despise it. I think it's a boring topic, even as
part of a subthread. I may eat it in restaurants, but I'm not about
to make it at home.

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"sf" ha scritto nel messaggio

> I'm not saying I despise it. I think it's a boring topic, even as> part
> of a subthread. I may eat it in restaurants, but I'm not about> to make
> it at home.

But lots of us do, so you're outta luck, sf.

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:16:04 -0500, "Jinx Minx"
> wrote:

>Really?? The best Greek food I've ever had was in Greece itself!

That's good to hear. I'll be docking in Greece, don't know if I'll
have a chance to eat local food though. We usually do self-guided
tours so we can poke around at our leisure and eat locally, but not
this time. We booked tours.

>The
>mainland, not so much the isles (which cater to the tourists). Then again,
>I ate mostly at little neighborhood mom and pop shops, not fancy tourist
>oriented restaurants. Of course, lots of tourists think Greek food is
>nothing more than gyros and shish kebab, which would account for being
>disappointed. Not saying your acquaintances are of that nature, but, a
>couple of the people I went with were.

Not sure where they ate, the isles for sure but one couple in
particular did go to the mainland too and said they found out "why
it's called Grease". DD spent 10 days in Santorini this summer,
didn't rave about the food but didn't complain about it either. So
maybe the food scene is looking up.


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Omelet wrote:
> Cuban. Hands down. At a rather fancy place in Miami Florida.
> It was compliments of Coulter Electronics when I was there for a
> training seminar. It got bad reviews by our entire class so they
> decided to not use that place any more.
>
> The service was fantastic but the food was awful...

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:15:41 +0200, "Giusi" >
wrote:

>
>"sf" ha scritto nel messaggio
>
>> I'm not saying I despise it. I think it's a boring topic, even as> part
>> of a subthread. I may eat it in restaurants, but I'm not about> to make
>> it at home.
>
>But lots of us do, so you're outta luck, sf.
>
It's a vote... and MCINL

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On Aug 20, 3:36*am, "Giusi" > wrote:
> "Omelet" ha scritto nel messaggio
>
> > Cuban. Hands down. At a rather fancy place in Miami Florida> The service
> > was fantastic but the food was awful...
>
> Bad *restaurant, because Cuban food is very good.
>
> My worst was specific to the highest part of Ecuadorean Andes. *It's a poor
> area, mostly goats and cactus, and all they sell to eat is a strange form of
> hominy that resembles wet popcorn and cubes of fried pork coated in lard to
> keep it from spoiling without refrigeration. *I lived on Scotch and
> cholcolate until we went down the mountain.

I had some kind of lizard in Belize. It was tough. It wasn't at a
restaurant; rather someone wanted me to try their cuisine. Not very
appetizing. In some parts of the world they eat spiders. I think
that would be much worse.

On Aug 20, 2:41*pm, "graham" > wrote:
> "Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig" > wrote in ...
> On Aug 20, 12:18 pm, Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 19, 8:58 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
> > > Cuban. Hands down. At a rather fancy place in Miami Florida.
> > > It was compliments of Coulter Electronics when I was there for a
> > > training seminar. It got bad reviews by our entire class so they
> > > decided to not use that place any more.
>
> > > The service was fantastic but the food was awful...
> > > --
> > > Peace! Om
>
> > > "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their
> > > foot down."
> > > --Steve Rothstein
>
> > >
> > > Subscribe:
>
> > TEHO! Some of the BEST food I've ever eaten was Cuban! Restaurant in
> > Little Havana in Miami - "Versailles" (? ! ?) on Calle Ocho. Lamb
> > shanks braised in some really dark red sauce, fried plantains, black
> > beans & rice. Not expensive. This restaurant is attracts lots of
> > tourists, but many Cubans too! It's kind of a cultural headquarters
> > in Miami. THE BEST MOJITO IN THE UNIVERSE!
>
> > Bad stuff: Chinese Buffets - ALL of 'em. Heavy southern Italian (OK
> > - so it was in Minnesota and patterned after a prohibition era Chicago
> > joint) where everything was covered with waaaaay thick red sauce and
> > gummy mozzarella. Even the salad was heavy.
>
> > Worst anything anywhe "Tournedos Rossini" at a now defunct fancy
> > schmancy place (also in Minny Soda) One filet mignon halved crosswise
> > on some kind of rusk or flat muffin with (marinated) canned artichoke
> > bottoms and a redish sauce that tasted like Kraft French dressing. No
> > truffles anywhere!
>
> > Lynn in Fargo
> > Heavily into Middle Eastern/North African food (when I have teeth)
>
> PS: *NO foie gras either! (maybe the truffles are optional!)
> Lynn in Fargo
> ------------------------------------------
> That form of "false advertising" caught me out once. *Shortly after arriving
> in Canada, I ordered "pepper steak" at an Italian resto, expecting steak au
> poivre. *I was served a stirfry that included chopped red and green peppers
> (capsicums).
> Graham

I think you need to order peppercorn steak.

On Aug 20, 3:50*pm, George Shirley > wrote:
> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > *"brooklyn1" > wrote:
>
> >> If I had to choose the absolute worst cousine I don't need to think about
> >> it, the worst I've ever eaten is Indian food... and I've tried quite a few
> >> highly touted restaurants thinking it was poor luck of the draw, NOT!, they
> >> all serve food that is literally greasy shit, it stinks like shit to boot.
>
> > I have yet to have good Indian food. And I've tried it more than once.
>
> Hear, hear! I have yet to understand the fascination with the stuff. DIL
> took us to an Indian restaurant in Houston, raved about the food, etc.
> It totally sucked!

When I make a curry, I toss out the recipe and make it to what I want
it to taste like. If it's chicken curry, I end up with a Hungarian
Paprikash deal; except with a good quality curry paste. Yes I add
cream and sour cream. It's not authentic, but it warms you up. This
curry would make any authentic curry look like an antique.

ChattyCathy > wrote:

> IIRC, Victor has been out here too - and I haven't heard him
> complaining...

No, indeed. The food we had was mostly very good, nearly everywhere in
South Africa.

We stayed at a game lodge (Londolozi) at the edge of the Kruger Park for
a few days and the food served there was rather good, especially
sosaties.

Then we stayed for a couple of days at a hotel (Cybele Forest Lodge) in
Mpumalanga, a bit farther north, in order to be able to drive to the
Blyde River Canyon among other places. The food at the hotel was very
good. There was also a very nice three-legged cat named Herriot who was
forbidden to beg, but did it anyway. When the waitress shooed him away,
he appeared to be able to outrun any four-legged cat, but came back just
as fast. He was also shedding like hell and my trouser legs ended up
covered with red fur.

Next we drove up to the Transvaal mountains and stayed at Coach House,
where the hearty, uncomplicated food was just great. Even the chicken
sandwiches with mayonnaise we got in our lunch basket were great. We
stopped for our lunch at the edge of the road where there were some
tables. Some cute little monkeys were up in the trees, begging for
food. They got some and ate it very fastidiously. Then they daintily
wiped their little hands on the tree branches.

Next we flew to Cape Town and stayed in Constantia, at the Alphen hotel
(which was not yet a luxury place it reportedly is now; it was very cold
at the time, but there was no heating of any kind, just an old-fashioned
hot-water bottle to use in bed). From what little I remember, the food
there was mediocre at best. We had some great Cape Malay food in Cape
Town. In Stellenbosch, at Volkshuis, we had great bobotie, among other
things.

In Mossel Bay, on the Garden Route, we had some truly great mussels in
cream sauce and a truly terrible bottle of white wine.

In Cape Agulhas, where the oceans meet, the food at the hotel was just
edible.

Our last stay was in Plettenberg Bay, also on the Garden Route, at The
Plettenberg hotel. The food there was very good indeed, as were the
wines. At a little Indian place in the town, we had some fairly
inauthentic "curry" which was nevertheless very tasty. There was also a
little shop where a very prim, old-school old lady was selling many
different kinds of biltong.

In Oudtshoorn, we tried to find ostrich eggs to eat, but there were
none.

I considered going on to Durban, to find some real Indian food, but we
decided it would be too much. We had to fly in and out of the
Johannesburg airport, but otherwise took special care to avoid
Johannesburg like a plague.

Ah, the memories...

Victor

Michael Kuettner > wrote:

> The Greek cuisine is among the weaker ones in Europe. Too much oil
> in most dishes.

Generally, I'd agree, but some dishes are supreme, stifado being one of
th every best stews of them all.

> Merkin tourists. An European wouldn't expect shish kebab in Greece.
> You'd go to Turkey for that.

Yes, but there is souvlaki, which is the same thing.

Victor

Omelet wrote:
> Cuban. Hands down. At a rather fancy place in Miami Florida.
> It was compliments of Coulter Electronics when I was there for a
> training seminar. It got bad reviews by our entire class so they
> decided to not use that place any more.
>
> The service was fantastic but the food was awful...


I am a little late responding because I could not remember any
particular ethnic cooking that was really bad, but I just remembered the
Macedonian restaurant that was in our town for a few months. The soup
was watery and tasteless. The main course was some sort of casserole
with egg on top. We didn't bother with dessert. It was a major
disappointment. We went there with the idea that Macedonian food might
be a bit like Greek. We never went back and I can understand why they
went under very quickly.

notbob wrote:
> On 2009-08-20, Omelet > wrote: > Cuban. Hands
> down. At a rather fancy place in Miami Florida. > It was compliments
> of Coulter Electronics when I was there for a > training seminar. It
> got bad reviews by our entire class so they > decided to not use that
> place any more.
>
> I've been reading this thread with some dismay. Most responses are
> from ppl who ate at a restaurant and didn't like some cuisine. DUH!
> Eating at McDs is not even remotely representative of US cuisine.
> Even eating at several restos does not do any cuisine justice. It
> wasn't until I ate at about my 6th Thai resto that I found a good one.
> The rest sucked. Sucked to the point I was about to give up
> completely on Thai food. Same experience with Indian food. Not until
> I found a dump hole-in-the-wall did I find GOOD authentic Indian food.
>

I love Indian food. I have come to almost dislike what passes for
Mexican in local restaurants, except for a very few. Pureed refried
beans and shredded yellow cheese are just icky.

> You wanna eat a foreign cuisine, find that ethnic neighborhood or go
> to the country. All the rest is a sham.
>
> nb


I have to agree. Denver has a large enough Indian, Vietnamese, Korean,
and Chinese population to support neighborhoods of very good ethnic
restaurants.

We have a nearby Indian restaurant where the owner is one of the servers
and "Mama" is in the kitchen. He always tells us what we should and
shouldn't order ("No, I think you'll like XYZ better.") and you can't be
in a hurry when you go there because I don't think Mama puts up with
anyone else in her kitchen. Sometimes the wait for food can be
painfully slow, but it's always hot and very fresh.

The best way to enjoy Vietnamese is to go to the restaurant with a
native speaker. Yum!

gloria p

Kris wrote:

> On Aug 19, 9:58 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>> Cuban. Hands down. At a rather fancy place in Miami Florida.
>> It was compliments of Coulter Electronics when I was there for a
>> training seminar. It got bad reviews by our entire class so they
>> decided to not use that place any more.
>>
>> The service was fantastic but the food was awful...
>> --
>> Peace! Om
>>
>> "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put
>> their foot down." --Steve Rothstein
>>
>>
>> Subscribe:
>
> Cuban is hit-and-miss for me too.
>
> But I'd have to say bad Chinese. You know, the kind that tastes like
> meat and vegetables in beef gravy. *shudder*
>
> I do, however, really enjoy Chinese if done correctly.


Phillipino can be pretty bad...cheap, greezy, tasteless, everything larded
with palm oil...

And bad Chinese really does suck, in my Chicawgo nabe there are still a
plethora of old - fashioned chop suey take - out joints, all with terrible
food. Don't know how they stay in business, there are lots of Thai, etc.,
options around now...


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Greg

Bob Terwilliger wrote:

> sf wrote:
>
>> Filipino food court type food isn't too plain - it's too greasy. In
>> fact, it's just plain awful! Good Filipino food is home cooking and
>> although they often cook for a crowd at home, it just doesn't
>> translate well to food for the masses (held in a chafing dish at a
>> food court). Ugh.
>>
>> I have many fond memories of a Filipino friend in HS whose home I was
>> always welcome to. We headed to her home after school and there was
>> always be something yummy simmering on the stove for us to eat.
>
> Back in my Navy days, I had some senior enlisted Filipinos working
> for me who were *very* enthusiastic about their own cooking. I always
> praised it (because good working relationships require that kind of
> sacrifice), but I found it plain. For example, Filipino fried rice
> was leftover white rice heated in oil with garlic. Period. Pancit was
> okay, but I liked Thai, Chinese, and Vietnamese noodle dishes much
> more. Lumpia were okay, but I liked spring rolls and summer rolls
> better. Filipino pork adobo was simply pork cooked in vinegar with
> bay leaf and pepper. Again, it was okay, but I liked carnitas better.
> (I was living in San Diego at the time.) I tried patronizing a
> Filipino restaurant in my neighborhood, trying some kind of goat
> cocido and the oxtail soup which makes so many Filipinos misty-eyed,
> but still found nothing which interested me culinarily. After leaving
> the Navy, I found myself working in Kuwait, and sharing an apartment
> with one of my coworkers and his Filipina wife, who volunteered to
> cook for all of us. It was not OFFENSIVE in any way, but quite plain,
> e.g., boiled beef chunks with potatoes and soy sauce.
>
> When I say the food is plain, I don't mean it's BAD. It's just not as
> interesting to me as the food of other cuisines.


I concur with your opinions here...it's just very plain and when it's bad
it's really bad. I refer to it as "poor food"...


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Greg

On 2009-08-20, Gloria P > wrote:

> I have to agree. Denver has a large enough Indian, Vietnamese, Korean,
> and Chinese population to support neighborhoods of very good ethnic
> restaurants.

Glad you're back, Gloria. I missed you when you were outta town.
Went through Denver back in July and tried to find Hong Konk Market
and got hopelessly lost and finally gave up and headed home.

Do they have Viet places the sell Banh Mi in Denver. I'd kill for a
Banh Mi.

nb

"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
...
> Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>
>>> Filipino food court type food isn't too plain - it's too greasy. In
>>> fact, it's just plain awful! Good Filipino food is home cooking and
>>> although they often cook for a crowd at home, it just doesn't
>>> translate well to food for the masses (held in a chafing dish at a
>>> food court). Ugh.
>>>
>>> I have many fond memories of a Filipino friend in HS whose home I was
>>> always welcome to. We headed to her home after school and there was
>>> always be something yummy simmering on the stove for us to eat.
>>
>> Back in my Navy days, I had some senior enlisted Filipinos working
>> for me who were *very* enthusiastic about their own cooking. I always
>> praised it (because good working relationships require that kind of
>> sacrifice), but I found it plain. For example, Filipino fried rice
>> was leftover white rice heated in oil with garlic. Period. Pancit was
>> okay, but I liked Thai, Chinese, and Vietnamese noodle dishes much
>> more. Lumpia were okay, but I liked spring rolls and summer rolls
>> better. Filipino pork adobo was simply pork cooked in vinegar with
>> bay leaf and pepper. Again, it was okay, but I liked carnitas better.
>> (I was living in San Diego at the time.) I tried patronizing a
>> Filipino restaurant in my neighborhood, trying some kind of goat
>> cocido and the oxtail soup which makes so many Filipinos misty-eyed,
>> but still found nothing which interested me culinarily. After leaving
>> the Navy, I found myself working in Kuwait, and sharing an apartment
>> with one of my coworkers and his Filipina wife, who volunteered to
>> cook for all of us. It was not OFFENSIVE in any way, but quite plain,
>> e.g., boiled beef chunks with potatoes and soy sauce.
>>
>> When I say the food is plain, I don't mean it's BAD. It's just not as
>> interesting to me as the food of other cuisines.
>
>
> I concur with your opinions here...it's just very plain and when it's bad
> it's really bad. I refer to it as "poor food"...
>
>
>

Hmm... "Navy days, I had some senior enlisted Filipinos", call em what they
really were... Pineapples.

Paul M. Cook wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
>> Cuban. Hands down. At a rather fancy place in Miami Florida.
>> It was compliments of Coulter Electronics when I was there for a
>> training seminar. It got bad reviews by our entire class so they
>> decided to not use that place any more.
>>
>> The service was fantastic but the food was awful...
>
>
> Give another place a try. Cuban food is very good, especially if you
> like pork and seafood.
>
> As far as cuisines, hmmm ... Russian food never did anything for me.
> We had a Russian cafe at one time and the food was very bland.


Despite a large Russian population, not much in the way of Russian food here
in Chicawgo, outside of a couple of delicatessens...

Russians simply never developed a restaurant "culture". Restaurants
traditionally were very expensive places where one went to drink oneself
silly, dance, and have some food. More along the lines of a nightclub...

During Soviet times the best restaurants in Moscow, etc. were Central Asian
ethnic places, e.g. Georgian, Uzbeki, etc...

With the advent of capitalism in the former USSR that's changed, at least in
the bigger cities. Plenty of eateries of all descriptions, and sushi is now
very popular in Moscow...


> Oddly, Hungarian food was very good. No influence between those
> national cuisines that I could tell even though they are ion the same
> part of the world.


Hungarian food is spicier, lots of influence from the Balkans...not much
"cross - pollination" with anything Russian. Polish and Czech food is
somewhat closer to Russian, e.g., use of sour cream, root veg (BEETS), dill,
cabbage, etc...


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Greg

ViLco wrote:

> Andy wrote:
>
>> Amsterdam's cuisine is entirely too dull. Of course there were
>> remedies for that!
>
> Yeah, the spanish and portuguese restaurants! And keep far from those
> "eye-talian" restos: all turkish personnel and totally wrong
> "eye-talian" dishes. And garlic everywhere, including the stained
> ceiling, sheesh...


And the stained sheets, too, eh...???

;-)

Dutch cuisine is pretty universally disdained, even by the Dutch. The
height of Dutch culinary aspiration is the "krokette", a deep - fried ball
of whatever...the first krokette dates from 1254, it was found recently in
an archeological dig...it's on display at the Riijksmuseum in Amsterdam in
fact!

Then there is the dreaded KLM cheese sandwich, the butt of many jokes over
the years...

;-)


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Greg

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:19:32 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
>
>>Indian food comes up here that often? Can't say I've noticed. Sure
>>you're not confusing r.f.c. with another group?
>
> See? That's how much I don't like the topic. I notice every time
> someone mentions it.
>

Strange. I love Indian food. Hate sushi. And nobody cares

lol

Omelet wrote:
>
> Cuban. Hands down. At a rather fancy place in Miami Florida.
> It was compliments of Coulter Electronics when I was there for a
> training seminar. It got bad reviews by our entire class so they
> decided to not use that place any more.
>
> The service was fantastic but the food was awful...
> --


Never eat 'ethnic' anywhere unless the corresponding 'locals' eat there
too. If there are no Chinese in the Chinese restaurant, don't eat there;
the food won't be good.
Same for Indian food or Cuban food. If there are no customers from India
(or Pakistan or Bangladesh etc depending on the restaurant) there the
food won't be good.

Have had awful meals in every cuisine tried, until I caught on. Probably
the worst 'restaurant' meal I've ever tried was in a local (US) buffet,
part of a chain 'Hometown'. There were foods that were just
unidentifiable to me. Even after eating a couple of bites, couldn't tell
what it was. And I'm not a novice as far as 'American' food goes. That
was just weird!