It was interesting that the three finalists were all "TV chefs". On the
whole, the show featured much better food than the regular program, but
was kind of boring. It lacked any real conflict between the
contestants, it was mostly, "You're so great, I love your stuff!!!!"

The judging panel was mostly boring, except when sweet Gail Simmons
alternated in. It would have been lots lots better if she'd been there
all the time. Oseland's only use was that he didn't seem to like
Chiarello much, and kind of shafted him on the finals. The independent
numberic scoring system for judging added to the snooze factor.

At any rate, I was satisfied with the winner. Bayless was pretty
consistent throughout the show. I was mainly happy that Chick-A-rello
didn't win. I still can't stand him.




Brian

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Default User wrote:
> It was interesting that the three finalists were all "TV chefs". On the
> whole, the show featured much better food than the regular program, but
> was kind of boring. It lacked any real conflict between the
> contestants, it was mostly, "You're so great, I love your stuff!!!!"
>
> The judging panel was mostly boring, except when sweet Gail Simmons
> alternated in. It would have been lots lots better if she'd been there
> all the time. Oseland's only use was that he didn't seem to like
> Chiarello much, and kind of shafted him on the finals. The independent
> numberic scoring system for judging added to the snooze factor.
>
> At any rate, I was satisfied with the winner. Bayless was pretty
> consistent throughout the show. I was mainly happy that Chick-A-rello
> didn't win. I still can't stand him.
>
>
>
>
> Brian
>
I agree about the winner but I have to say the voting was kinda screwy.
I mean, I think all the judges didn't like his final dish - with the
overcooked seafood but the final judge gave him 4 and a half stars just
so that he could win. Or rather "chick a rello" got 3 and half just so
that Bayless could win.

Tracy
(it was fixed I tell ya.)

Tracy wrote:

> Default User wrote:

> > At any rate, I was satisfied with the winner. Bayless was pretty
> > consistent throughout the show. I was mainly happy that
> > Chick-A-rello didn't win. I still can't stand him.

> I agree about the winner but I have to say the voting was kinda
> screwy. I mean, I think all the judges didn't like his final dish -
> with the overcooked seafood but the final judge gave him 4 and a half
> stars just so that he could win. Or rather "chick a rello" got 3 and
> half just so that Bayless could win.

That's the problem with numeric scoring versus hashing out a decision
between judges. Oseland had to give Chiarello an unfair score to get
the overall result he wanted. I was pretty surprised about Bayless's
high scores after the pummelling the final dish took.

I would like to try that mole.



Brian

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On 20 Aug 2009 19:10:50 GMT, "Default User" >
wrote:

>I was mainly happy that Chick-A-rello didn't win. I still can't stand him.

I love him, love his show, and love the food he presents on the show.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Aug 20, 2:10*pm, "Default User" > wrote:
> It was interesting that the three finalists were all "TV chefs". On the
> whole, the show featured much better food than the regular program, but
> was kind of boring. It lacked any real conflict between the
> contestants, it was mostly, "You're so great, I love your stuff!!!!"
>
> The judging panel was mostly boring, except when sweet Gail Simmons
> alternated in. It would have been lots lots better if she'd been there
> all the time. Oseland's only use was that he didn't seem to like
> Chiarello much, and kind of shafted him on the finals. The independent
> numberic scoring system for judging added to the snooze factor.
>
> At any rate, I was satisfied with the winner. Bayless was pretty
> consistent throughout the show. I was mainly happy that Chick-A-rello
> didn't win. I still can't stand him.
>
> Brian
>
> --
> Day 199 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project

On Aug 20, 2:20 pm, Tracy > wrote:
> Default User wrote:
> > It was interesting that the three finalists were all "TV chefs". On the
> > whole, the show featured much better food than the regular program, but
> > was kind of boring. It lacked any real conflict between the
> > contestants, it was mostly, "You're so great, I love your stuff!!!!"
>
> > The judging panel was mostly boring, except when sweet Gail Simmons
> > alternated in. It would have been lots lots better if she'd been there
> > all the time. Oseland's only use was that he didn't seem to like
> > Chiarello much, and kind of shafted him on the finals. The independent
> > numberic scoring system for judging added to the snooze factor.
>
> > At any rate, I was satisfied with the winner. Bayless was pretty
> > consistent throughout the show. I was mainly happy that Chick-A-rello
> > didn't win. I still can't stand him.
>
> > Brian
>
> I agree about the winner but I have to say the voting was kinda screwy.
> I mean, I think all the judges didn't like his final dish - with the
> overcooked seafood but the final judge gave him 4 and a half stars just
> so that he could win. Or rather "chick a rello" got 3 and half just so
> that Bayless could win.
>
> Tracy
> (it was fixed I tell ya.)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

That Italian macho egomaniac Chiarello can come cook for me anytime.
I think he's dementedly delicious. ;-) I wanted either Bayless or
him to win, so I'm happy.

I'd argue about these being "TV chefs." Their stints on TV have come
about because they're great chefs and restaurateurs, not the other way
around. I don't think Bayless has a regular show any more, and I
don't think Chiarello's food network show is making new episodes
either. I've never seen Hubert in his own show on TV; don't know if
he ever had one.

N.

On Aug 20, 3:39*pm, sf > wrote:
> On 20 Aug 2009 19:10:50 GMT, "Default User" >
> wrote:
>
> >I was mainly happy that Chick-A-rello didn't win. I still can't stand him.
>
> I love him, love his show, and love the food he presents on the show.
>
> --
> I love cooking with wine.
> Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Me, too. ;-)

N.

sf wrote:

> On 20 Aug 2009 19:10:50 GMT, "Default User" >
> wrote:
>
> > I was mainly happy that Chick-A-rello didn't win. I still can't
> > stand him.
>
> I love him, love his show, and love the food he presents on the show.

Many do. I don't see it, but that's the way it goes.



Brian

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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:01:39 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>I've never seen Hubert in his own show on TV; don't know if
>he ever had one.

Skip the intro and go directly to Secrets of a Chef (there are recipes
to be found). http://www.hubertkeller.com/ I've watched the show a
couple of times, but his accent is so thick I miss a lot and I don't
know enough (any) French people to train my ear.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:01:39 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>On Aug 20, 2:10*pm, "Default User" > wrote:

>I'd argue about these being "TV chefs." Their stints on TV have come
>about because they're great chefs and restaurateurs, not the other way
>around. I don't think Bayless has a regular show any more, and I
>don't think Chiarello's food network show is making new episodes
>either. I've never seen Hubert in his own show on TV; don't know if
>he ever had one.

Isn't Bayless still doing his PBS show? Yes, it looks like there is
another season of "Mexico One Plate at a Time" coming out. Chiarello
has stopped making new shows since 2008 to concentrate on his
restaurant. Though he's obviously not given up totally on TV given his
appearance on "Top Chef Masters." And looking at Hubert Keller's web
site it appears that he does have a TV series coming out called
"Secrets of a Chef." Though I think up till now he's just appeared as
a guest on many other cooking shows instead of having his own TV
show..

I do agree though that these gentlemen were all famous for their
cooking before they started doing regular TV appearances. Without
their ability to work magic in the kitchen they wouldn't have become
famous on TV unlike many of the chefs we see on the Food Network now.

sf wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:01:39 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>
> > I've never seen Hubert in his own show on TV; don't know if
> > he ever had one.
>
> Skip the intro and go directly to Secrets of a Chef (there are recipes
> to be found). http://www.hubertkeller.com/ I've watched the show a
> couple of times, but his accent is so thick I miss a lot and I don't
> know enough (any) French people to train my ear.

It can be a bit of a challenge at time. I watch "Secrets of a Chef" on
the local PBS station. One of his restaurants is Sleek Steakhouse here
in St. Louis, and he often does segments from the kitchen there.




Brian

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shawn wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:01:39 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > wrote:

> Isn't Bayless still doing his PBS show?

Yeah, new season come out every now and then. The last few have
featured his daughter, Laney (or something like that).

> Yes, it looks like there is
> another season of "Mexico One Plate at a Time" coming out.

> And looking at Hubert Keller's web
> site it appears that he does have a TV series coming out called
> "Secrets of a Chef." Though I think up till now he's just appeared as
> a guest on many other cooking shows instead of having his own TV
> show..

Already out and been running on my PBS station for some time.

> I do agree though that these gentlemen were all famous for their
> cooking before they started doing regular TV appearances. Without
> their ability to work magic in the kitchen they wouldn't have become
> famous on TV unlike many of the chefs we see on the Food Network now.

I think people misunderstood the original comment. I was not suggesting
that they were "TV only" cooks, like a Rachel Ray. I was implying that
their time doing stand-up cooking shows might have helped them with the
challenges. Or perhaps it was coincidental.

Chiarello probably wouldn't have made the finals if Anita Lo hadn't
just given up when they switched venues on her.




Brian

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> >I'd argue about these being "TV chefs." *Their stints on TV have come
> >about because they're great chefs and restaurateurs, not the other way
> >around. *I don't think Bayless has a regular show any more, and I
> >don't think Chiarello's food network show is making new episodes
> >either. *I've never seen Hubert in his own show on TV; don't know if
> >he ever had one.
>
> Isn't Bayless still doing his PBS show? Yes, it looks like there is
> another season of "Mexico One Plate at a Time" coming out. Chiarello
> has stopped making new shows since 2008 to concentrate on his
> restaurant. Though he's obviously not given up totally on TV given his
> appearance on "Top Chef Masters." And looking at Hubert Keller's web
> site it appears that he does have a TV series coming out called
> "Secrets of a Chef." Though I think up till now he's just appeared as
> a guest on many other cooking shows instead of having his own TV
> show..
>
> I do agree though that these gentlemen were all famous for their
> cooking before they started doing regular TV appearances. Without
> their ability to work magic in the kitchen they wouldn't have become
> famous on TV unlike many of the chefs we see on the Food Network now.

I don't think our PBS has ever carried Secrets of a Chef. (Not all
PBS stations buy the same programs. For instance, the Iowa one still
shows Lawrence Welk once a week. ARRRGGHHHH!)


Anyway, that was exactly my point - I think it's a mistake to call
these "TV chefs." A TV chef to me would be Big Daddy, the Neelys,
Robin Miller, Amy (short-lived) whoever, and Melissa D'Arabian, and
the like....rightly or wrongly. Even Rachel Ray - if she's never had
a restaurant in which to be a chef -- although she says she's not a
chef, she's just a cook.

N.

On Aug 20, 6:33*pm, "Default User" > wrote:
> shawn wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:01:39 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > > wrote:
> > Isn't Bayless still doing his PBS show?
>
> Yeah, new season come out every now and then. The last few have
> featured his daughter, Laney (or something like that).
>
> > Yes, it looks like there is
> > another season of "Mexico One Plate at a Time" coming out.
> > And looking at Hubert Keller's web
> > site it appears that he does have a TV series coming out called
> > "Secrets of a Chef." Though I think up till now he's just appeared as
> > a guest on many other cooking shows instead of having his own TV
> > show..
>
> Already out and been running on my PBS station for some time.
>
> > I do agree though that these gentlemen were all famous for their
> > cooking before they started doing regular TV appearances. Without
> > their ability to work magic in the kitchen they wouldn't have become
> > famous on TV unlike many of the chefs we see on the Food Network now.
>
> I think people misunderstood the original comment. I was not suggesting
> that they were "TV only" cooks, like a Rachel Ray. I was implying that
> their time doing stand-up cooking shows might have helped them with the
> challenges. Or perhaps it was coincidental.
>
> Chiarello probably wouldn't have made the finals if Anita Lo hadn't
> just given up when they switched venues on her.
>
> Brian
>
> --
> Day 199 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project

Without regard to the respective chef's attitude, Hubert's dishes
weren't as popular with the critics as Chiarello's - Hubert may have
taken Lo's place. We'll never know. I wished they could have done a
final 4 - I thought that would be really the best thing to do.

N.

sf wrote:
> On 20 Aug 2009 19:10:50 GMT, "Default User" >
> wrote:
>
>> I was mainly happy that Chick-A-rello didn't win. I still can't stand him.
>
> I love him, love his show, and love the food he presents on the show.
>

I like the food he cooks and the way he presents it - the whole
Napa/Mediterranean thing...but I don't really like him much. He can be a
little smarmy. IMO.

Tracy

Tracy wrote:
> sf wrote:
>> On 20 Aug 2009 19:10:50 GMT, "Default User" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I was mainly happy that Chick-A-rello didn't win. I still can't stand
>>> him.
>>
>> I love him, love his show, and love the food he presents on the show.
>>
>
> I like the food he cooks and the way he presents it - the whole
> Napa/Mediterranean thing...but I don't really like him much. He can be a
> little smarmy. IMO.
>
> Tracy

yeah, smarmy is how I see him too. He reminds me a bit of Ina Garten and
her "rent-a-friends". I like her food, love her kitchen and watching her
work. I just can't stand that phony way she presents the "party".

Goomba wrote:
> Tracy wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>> On 20 Aug 2009 19:10:50 GMT, "Default User" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was mainly happy that Chick-A-rello didn't win. I still can't
>>>> stand him.
>>>
>>> I love him, love his show, and love the food he presents on the show.
>>>
>>
>> I like the food he cooks and the way he presents it - the whole
>> Napa/Mediterranean thing...but I don't really like him much. He can be
>> a little smarmy. IMO.
>>
>> Tracy
>
> yeah, smarmy is how I see him too. He reminds me a bit of Ina Garten and
> her "rent-a-friends". I like her food, love her kitchen and watching her
> work. I just can't stand that phony way she presents the "party".


exactly....

Goomba wrote:
> Tracy wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>> On 20 Aug 2009 19:10:50 GMT, "Default User"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was mainly happy that Chick-A-rello didn't win. I still can't
>>>> stand him.
>>>
>>> I love him, love his show, and love the food he presents on the
>>> show.
>>
>> I like the food he cooks and the way he presents it - the whole
>> Napa/Mediterranean thing...but I don't really like him much. He can
>> be a little smarmy. IMO.
>>
>> Tracy
>
> yeah, smarmy is how I see him too. He reminds me a bit of Ina Garten
> and her "rent-a-friends". I like her food, love her kitchen and
> watching her work. I just can't stand that phony way she presents the
> "party".

Giada does the same. I cringe at the way she has to describe each dish to
every guest and ask for approval.
Janet

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:02:31 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> wrote:

>Goomba wrote:
>> Tracy wrote:
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On 20 Aug 2009 19:10:50 GMT, "Default User"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was mainly happy that Chick-A-rello didn't win. I still can't
>>>>> stand him.
>>>>
>>>> I love him, love his show, and love the food he presents on the
>>>> show.
>>>
>>> I like the food he cooks and the way he presents it - the whole
>>> Napa/Mediterranean thing...but I don't really like him much. He can
>>> be a little smarmy. IMO.
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>
>> yeah, smarmy is how I see him too. He reminds me a bit of Ina Garten
>> and her "rent-a-friends". I like her food, love her kitchen and
>> watching her work. I just can't stand that phony way she presents the
>> "party".
>
>Giada does the same. I cringe at the way she has to describe each dish to
>every guest and ask for approval.
>
Nobody is directed to do that huh?




--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Janet Bostwick wrote:
> Goomba wrote:
>> Tracy wrote:
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On 20 Aug 2009 19:10:50 GMT, "Default User"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was mainly happy that Chick-A-rello didn't win. I still can't
>>>>> stand him.
>>>> I love him, love his show, and love the food he presents on the
>>>> show.
>>> I like the food he cooks and the way he presents it - the whole
>>> Napa/Mediterranean thing...but I don't really like him much. He can
>>> be a little smarmy. IMO.
>>>
>>> Tracy
>> yeah, smarmy is how I see him too. He reminds me a bit of Ina Garten
>> and her "rent-a-friends". I like her food, love her kitchen and
>> watching her work. I just can't stand that phony way she presents the
>> "party".
>
> Giada does the same. I cringe at the way she has to describe each dish to
> every guest and ask for approval.
> Janet
>
>

Yeah, she is another one. I like what she makes but I don't like the
fakery.

Tracy

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:02:31 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> > wrote:
>
>>Goomba wrote:
>>> Tracy wrote:
>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>> On 20 Aug 2009 19:10:50 GMT, "Default User"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was mainly happy that Chick-A-rello didn't win. I still can't
>>>>>> stand him.
>>>>>
>>>>> I love him, love his show, and love the food he presents on the
>>>>> show.
>>>>
>>>> I like the food he cooks and the way he presents it - the whole
>>>> Napa/Mediterranean thing...but I don't really like him much. He can
>>>> be a little smarmy. IMO.
>>>>
>>>> Tracy
>>>
>>> yeah, smarmy is how I see him too. He reminds me a bit of Ina Garten
>>> and her "rent-a-friends". I like her food, love her kitchen and
>>> watching her work. I just can't stand that phony way she presents the
>>> "party".
>>
>>Giada does the same. I cringe at the way she has to describe each dish to
>>every guest and ask for approval.
>>
> Nobody is directed to do that huh?
>
No, I believe that is Giada's personal need to do so. No directors
required. Just like Ina Garten.
Janet

Default User wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
>> On 20 Aug 2009 19:10:50 GMT, "Default User" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I was mainly happy that Chick-A-rello didn't win. I still can't
>>> stand him.
>> I love him, love his show, and love the food he presents on the show.
>
> Many do. I don't see it, but that's the way it goes.

While I think some of his food looks good, I thought he came off as a
complete asshole during most of the competition. The judges can't judge
him on that but I can!

TammyM, happy Bayless won, wished Hubert had taken 2nd

Nancy2 wrote:
>
> That Italian macho egomaniac Chiarello can come cook for me anytime.
> I think he's dementedly delicious. ;-)

Now if we're talking yummy, I'll take Anthony Bourdain (sans the
cigarettes) any day! If I have to stick to Top Chef Masters, Hubert can
leave crumbs in my boudoir any day.... (even if he's a little past his
prime).


TammyM

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:24:27 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:02:31 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Goomba wrote:

>>>> yeah, smarmy is how I see him too. He reminds me a bit of Ina Garten
>>>> and her "rent-a-friends". I like her food, love her kitchen and
>>>> watching her work. I just can't stand that phony way she presents the
>>>> "party".
>>>
>>>Giada does the same. I cringe at the way she has to describe each dish to
>>>every guest and ask for approval.
>>>
>> Nobody is directed to do that huh?
>>
>No, I believe that is Giada's personal need to do so. No directors
>required. Just like Ina Garten.

and you know this how?

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:56:25 -0700, TammyM > wrote:

>While I think some of his food looks good, I thought he came off as a
>complete asshole during most of the competition. The judges can't judge
>him on that but I can!

Interesting! I wonder if Hulu will carry the series (I wasn't
interested in watching it before this)... because I think of him as
totally down to earth and someone I'd like to know in person.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

TammyM wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>> That Italian macho egomaniac Chiarello can come cook for me anytime.
>> I think he's dementedly delicious. ;-)
>
> Now if we're talking yummy, I'll take Anthony Bourdain (sans the
> cigarettes) any day! If I have to stick to Top Chef Masters, Hubert can
> leave crumbs in my boudoir any day.... (even if he's a little past his
> prime).
>
>
> TammyM

How many times we gotta go through this, Miss Tammy?
Bourdain's MINE....until I tire of him. Then I'll pass him on.
Or, you have to join us. But you're not getting your mits into him on
your own until... well.. until...I'm done!!

On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 08:44:32 -0400, Goomba > wrote:

-->TammyM wrote:
-->> Nancy2 wrote:
-->>>
-->>> That Italian macho egomaniac Chiarello can come cook for me anytime.
-->>> I think he's dementedly delicious. ;-)
-->>
-->> Now if we're talking yummy, I'll take Anthony Bourdain (sans the
-->> cigarettes) any day! If I have to stick to Top Chef Masters, Hubert can
-->> leave crumbs in my boudoir any day.... (even if he's a little past his
-->> prime).
-->>
-->>
-->> TammyM
-->
-->How many times we gotta go through this, Miss Tammy?
-->Bourdain's MINE....until I tire of him. Then I'll pass him on.
-->Or, you have to join us. But you're not getting your mits into him on
-->your own until... well.. until...I'm done!!


You two will do anything to get a meal cooked for you ;-)

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:24:27 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:02:31 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Goomba wrote:
>
>>>>> yeah, smarmy is how I see him too. He reminds me a bit of Ina Garten
>>>>> and her "rent-a-friends". I like her food, love her kitchen and
>>>>> watching her work. I just can't stand that phony way she presents the
>>>>> "party".
>>>>
>>>>Giada does the same. I cringe at the way she has to describe each dish
>>>>to
>>>>every guest and ask for approval.
>>>>
>>> Nobody is directed to do that huh?
>>>
>>No, I believe that is Giada's personal need to do so. No directors
>>required. Just like Ina Garten.
>
> and you know this how?
>
Don't you ever observe people? Ina is the kind of person that gets
satisfaction from making food for others, but she also needs to be reassured
that she did good. To a certain extent, Giada is just like that. If you
aren't a people watcher, you won't understand.
Janet

On 2009-08-21, TammyM > wrote:

> Now if we're talking yummy, I'll take Anthony Bourdain (sans the
> cigarettes) any day!

I'm sure he quit smoking. Seems I saw an new season episode of W/O
Reservation where he mentioned he hadn't smoked in about 8 months.

nb

On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 08:19:31 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:24:27 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"sf" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:02:31 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Goomba wrote:
>>
>>>>>> yeah, smarmy is how I see him too. He reminds me a bit of Ina Garten
>>>>>> and her "rent-a-friends". I like her food, love her kitchen and
>>>>>> watching her work. I just can't stand that phony way she presents the
>>>>>> "party".
>>>>>
>>>>>Giada does the same. I cringe at the way she has to describe each dish
>>>>>to
>>>>>every guest and ask for approval.
>>>>>
>>>> Nobody is directed to do that huh?
>>>>
>>>No, I believe that is Giada's personal need to do so. No directors
>>>required. Just like Ina Garten.
>>
>> and you know this how?
>>
>Don't you ever observe people? Ina is the kind of person that gets
>satisfaction from making food for others, but she also needs to be reassured
>that she did good. To a certain extent, Giada is just like that. If you
>aren't a people watcher, you won't understand.

You don't think each show is scripted and every shot has more than one
take?

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:20:08 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2009-08-21, TammyM > wrote:
>
>> Now if we're talking yummy, I'll take Anthony Bourdain (sans the
>> cigarettes) any day!
>
>I'm sure he quit smoking. Seems I saw an new season episode of W/O
>Reservation where he mentioned he hadn't smoked in about 8 months.
>
>nb

Yep. He said he quit when his kid was born.
--

modom

"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 08:19:31 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:24:27 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"sf" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:02:31 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Goomba wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> yeah, smarmy is how I see him too. He reminds me a bit of Ina Garten
>>>>>>> and her "rent-a-friends". I like her food, love her kitchen and
>>>>>>> watching her work. I just can't stand that phony way she presents
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> "party".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Giada does the same. I cringe at the way she has to describe each
>>>>>>dish
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>every guest and ask for approval.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody is directed to do that huh?
>>>>>
>>>>No, I believe that is Giada's personal need to do so. No directors
>>>>required. Just like Ina Garten.
>>>
>>> and you know this how?
>>>
>>Don't you ever observe people? Ina is the kind of person that gets
>>satisfaction from making food for others, but she also needs to be
>>reassured
>>that she did good. To a certain extent, Giada is just like that. If you
>>aren't a people watcher, you won't understand.
>
> You don't think each show is scripted and every shot has more than one
> take?
>
> --
Yes, I do. But I also know from watching Next Food Network Star, that Food
Network is looking for different personalities to create around. They can
set up the situation, but the delivery is still within the persona of the
'star.' Sorry if Giada is a favorite of yours and I stepped on your toes.
I like Giada and Ina both, it's just a personality trait that I have noticed
because I am somewhat guilty of it myself. As, I suspect, are most of the
people on this newsgroup.
Janet

On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:32:34 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> wrote:
>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 08:19:31 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
>> > wrote:

>>> If you aren't a people watcher, you won't understand.
>>
>> You don't think each show is scripted and every shot has more than one
>> take?
>>
>> --
>Yes, I do. But I also know from watching Next Food Network Star, that Food
>Network is looking for different personalities to create around. They can
>set up the situation, but the delivery is still within the persona of the
>'star.' Sorry if Giada is a favorite of yours and I stepped on your toes.
>I like Giada and Ina both, it's just a personality trait that I have noticed
>because I am somewhat guilty of it myself.

I just chalk it up to scripting, probably because I can't imagine
anyone being that needy. It's a cooking show, so they talk about food
in the party scenes. The producers and directors certainly are not
going to show them having a political discussion.

>As, I suspect, are most of the people on this newsgroup.

I don't think so. Maybe a few, but not *most*.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"Default User" > wrote in message
...

> At any rate, I was satisfied with the winner. Bayless was pretty
> consistent throughout the show. I was mainly happy that Chick-A-rello
> didn't win. I still can't stand him.


Heh. "Chick-A-Rello"

Been chuckling about that all day...

Hasta,
Curt Nelson

On 20 Aug 2009 19:55:10 GMT, "Default User" >
wrote:

>I would like to try that mole.

I would like to try the short ribs by Chiarello.... mmmm. I really
wanted Hubert Keller to win though, he's been excellent and impressive
throughout the season. He totally deserved his previous two $10k wins.
I thought he was great as a mentor too. As much as I enjoy Italian
food and Chiarello's cooking show, his attitude during the episode
with the assistants put me off.

On Aug 21, 6:59*pm, TammyM > wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
>
> > That Italian macho egomaniac Chiarello can come cook for me anytime.
> > I think he's dementedly delicious. ;-) *
>
> Now if we're talking yummy, I'll take Anthony Bourdain (sans the
> cigarettes) any day! *If I have to stick to Top Chef Masters, Hubert can
> leave crumbs in my boudoir any day.... (even if he's a little past his
> prime).
>
> TammyM

Bourdain quit smoking when his wife had a new baby. He says.

N.