On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:02:37 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:

>> Why not just make your own? You can even use loin rather than
>> tenderloin and make a beautiful meal for under a buck.
>
>
>Oh wow, I just got one of those big 10 lb. packaged pork loins at Treasure
>Island for $1.49/lb., a friend is coming over tomorrow to fry up some
>chicken so I'll make some pork tenderloin sandwiches...my friend is from
>Iowa so she'll be thrilled, we are always bitching about the lack of breaded
>pork tenderloin sammiches here in Chicago, where I grew up on the IA - IL
>border they are a staple, but here not so apparently.

I hope you had fun. I've had them out west but never in the city.
I've even seen them in SW Wisconsin. I like a crushed saltine breading
the best. My favorite bun is S.Rosen. I like mayo, Plochman's yellow
mustard, Claussen sandwich slices, lettuce and tomato, and lots of
pepper. YUM!

Lou

On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:20:12 -0500, Janet Wilder
> wrote:

>Default User wrote:
>> Kate Connally wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>>
>>> Iowa
>>
>> Pork tenderloin sandwich.
>>
>> <http://web.mac.com/davydd/Site/Pork_Tenderloin_Sandwich.html>
>
>That site is Indiana. IMHO, the best ones are in Iowa.

I wouldn't discount Indiana pork. Here's an article about where
charlie trotters pork comes from:

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Ma...llo-Beautiful/

Lou

If you are heading north toward Akron then going west, you might want
to check out the Emlenton Truck Stop in Emlenton PA, which is
nationally known for having the "World's Worst Apple Pie". I haven't
talked to my sister in a couple years, but the last time I talked to
her she was still waiting tables there.

For Cincinnati Chili you would want to stop at Skyline Chili, there
are some throughout Northern Ohio. I recommend the five way (noodles,
sauce, cheese, beans and onions) and a coney dog. Skyline also sells
more York's Peppermint Patties than any other restaurant chain in the
world; it is traditional to cap your meal off with a couple peppermint
patties. Here is the Skyline Chili website where you put in the zip
code of an area you'll go travelling thru and it tells you how close
the nearest one is.

http://www.skylinechili.com/locator.php?zip=44301

When I lived in Cincinnati one of the big local dishes was Goetta,
pronounced GET-TA, which is a combination of seasoned ground pork and
oatmeal which is fried in a skillet in thin patties like sausage.
Never cared for it, must be an acquired taste. Scrapple is also big
in the midwest, but never tried it because I draw the line at eating
pork brains and internal organs.

I love Detroit Coneys, but I think National Coney Island is just in
the Metro Detroit area, at least when I lived there in the mid 90's.
For those who have never had one, a Detroit Coney has a bun topped
with a slice of american cheese, the hot dog, loose seasoned meat and
topped with chili without beans, then onions and mustard. It is
recommended to eat with a knife and fork.

On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 08:26:15 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>"Kate Connally" > wrote in message
...
>> Hi,
>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>>
>> I'll be travelling through the following states:
>> Michigan
>> Wisconsin
>> Minnesota
>> North Dakota
>> Montana
>> Washington (eastern)
>> Oregon (eastern)
>> Idaho
>> Wyoming
>> Nebraska
>> Iowa
>> Illinois
>> Indiana
>> Ohio
>> Kentucky
>> West Virginia
>>
>> Have at it.
>>
>> Kate
>>
>
>Wild rice soup in Minnesota! It's delicious! I'd have a pork sandwich in
>Iowa rather than in Montana. Iowa is the top pork producer. Kentucky is
>known as the mutton capital of the U.S. for some strange reason... maybe a
>bowl of mutton stew if you can find it on a menu?
>
>Have fun on your trip!
>
>Jill

I belive mutton is mostly a western Kentucky thing - mainly barbecue
(you can find it as far east as Louisville if you look hard).

- Mark (who is not a native of Kentucky and does not actually live
there)

On Aug 29, 10:13*am, "Jean B." > wrote:
> Kate Connally wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
> > few weeks. *Just wondering if there are any local
> > foods I might want to try in the different states
> > that I don't already know about. *(For instance, pasties
> > in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
> > runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>
> > I'll be travelling through the following states:
> > Michigan
> > Wisconsin
> > Minnesota
> > North Dakota
> > Montana
> > Washington (eastern)
> > Oregon (eastern)
> > Idaho
> > Wyoming
> > Nebraska
> > Iowa
> > Illinois
> > Indiana
> > Ohio
> > Kentucky
> > West Virginia
>
> > Have at it.
>
> > Kate
>
> This may be obvious, but have you looked at books by Jane and
> Michael Stern? *I bet they'd have some good tips for you. *Also,
> I'd be tempted to look back at the books I have lauded: *Food of a
> Younger Land,* America Cooks by The Browns...
>
> *Also, I gather Pat Willard's book, America Eats, which is also
> based on the unfinished project of that name from the 1930s and
> early 1940s, has just come out in PB form.
>
> --
> Jean B.

I just read "America Eats" - from the Library. Don't need to buy it.
it's not a keeper. I've been reading Jane and Michael Stern since the
70s. Been thru at least three editions of "Roadfood". North Dakota
to the Jersey Shore and ND to Ohio more times than I can count. I'm
going to get a copy of "500 Things to Eat before it's Too Late"!
Lynn in Fargo
Still making Jane & Michael Stern's Garlic Coleslaw and the Sour Cream
Raisin Pie from the Norske Nook in Osseo, Wisconsin

On Aug 28, 3:20*pm, Kate Connally > wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
> few weeks. *Just wondering if there are any local
> foods I might want to try in the different states
> that I don't already know about. *(For instance, pasties
> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>
> I'll be travelling through the following states:
> Michigan
> Wisconsin
> Minnesota
> North Dakota
> Montana
> Washington (eastern)
> Oregon (eastern)
> Idaho
> Wyoming
> Nebraska
> Iowa
> Illinois
> Indiana
> Ohio
> Kentucky
> West Virginia
>
> Have at it.
>
> Kate
>
> --
> Kate Connally
> “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
> Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
> Until you bite their heads off.”
> What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?
>



Montana for pork? Since when? LOL. Iowa - pork tenderloin sandwich,
anyplace that advertises them. Henry's Cafe over by Honey Creek
(western Iowa, across the Missouri River from Omaha). Or an "Iowa
chop." We know how to do it right. The best hamburger you'll ever
have? Hamburg Inn # 2 in Iowa City. It's also famous for predicting
presidents, based on voters who put beans in jars. ;-)

If you're on I-80 in Iowa, check out the Amana Colonies - an old-time
German collective with family-style restaurants in each of the 7
villages. Try the Colony or the Ronneburg. You won't regret it.
Stopping on I-80 at Williamsburg ("little Amana") doesn't count.

N.

On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:15:56 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:20:12 -0500, Janet Wilder
> > wrote:
>
>>Default User wrote:
>>> Kate Connally wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>>>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>>>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>>>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>>>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>>>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>>>
>>>> Iowa
>>>
>>> Pork tenderloin sandwich.
>>>
>>> <http://web.mac.com/davydd/Site/Pork_Tenderloin_Sandwich.html>
>>
>>That site is Indiana. IMHO, the best ones are in Iowa.
>
> I wouldn't discount Indiana pork. Here's an article about where
> charlie trotters pork comes from:
>
> http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Ma...llo-Beautiful/
>
> Lou

nice story, lou.

your pal,
blake

On Aug 30, 7:56*pm, "Michael O'Connor" > wrote:

> For Cincinnati Chili you would want to stop at Skyline Chili, there
> are some throughout Northern Ohio. *I recommend the five way (noodles,
> sauce, cheese, beans and onions) and a coney dog. *Skyline also sells
> more York's Peppermint Patties than any other restaurant chain in the
> world; it is traditional to cap your meal off with a couple peppermint
> patties. *

That's to kill the aftertaste of the chili. Not that I'd know; I once
walked
into a Skyline and had to leave because the chili smelled so bad.

My husband's from Cincinnati. He eats his four way (no beans). But
he won't eat Skyline (or any other Real Cincinnati Chili).

Cindy Hamilton

>
>>"Kate Connally" > wrote in message
...
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)

<hoping I got the attributions right as I snipped, and delurking after
several years to say...>

If you're going thru Ann Arbor Mi, there are several interesting
places you might want to visit, including Zingerman's Deli, and Krazy
Jim's Blimpy Burger. Toledo's minor claim to fame, besides Chili-Mac
(kind of like Cincinnati chili only without cinnamon in the sauce)
seems to be Tony Packo's Hungarian Hot Dogs, immortalized by Corporal
Klinger of MASH fame, who actually grew up a few blocks from the
original Packos restaurant. If you're interested in more info, let me
know...

Jeanne in Toledo

Andy wrote:
> Kate Connally said...
>
>> Hi,
>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>>
>> I'll be travelling through the following states:
>> Michigan
>> Wisconsin
>> Minnesota
>> North Dakota
>> Montana
>> Washington (eastern)
>> Oregon (eastern)
>> Idaho
>> Wyoming
>> Nebraska
>> Iowa
>> Illinois
>> Indiana
>> Ohio
>> Kentucky
>> West Virginia
>>
>> Have at it.
>>
>> Kate
>
>
> Kate,
>
> Can that route actually be mapped out?
>
> Don't make me drag out my map software!
>
> Andy

Dear Andy,
Yes, of course it can - how else could I plan my trip?
I have it all mapped out on a AAA online triptik.
I will be driving from Pittsburgh to Cleveland then
Toledo, then Detroit. From Detroit northwest across
the Lower Peninusula to Glen Arbor. Will visit Cherry
Republic and camp overnight at Sleeping Bear Dunes National
Lakeshore.

Day 2 tour SLBNL then head to Traverse City and
tour Old Mission Peninsula. Next to Mackinaw City and
over Mackinac Bridge to Upper Peninsula to Grand Marais.
Camp overnight at Pictured Rocks National Lakeshore.

Day 3 head west across norther UP to Wisconsin. Across
northern WI to Duluth and then north along Lake Superior
to Silver Bay and then inland to Ely, MN. Camp overnight
near Ely in Superior National Forest.

Day 4 visit Soudan Iron Mine State Park and take neutrino
lab tour and mine tour. Head to Fargo, ND. Meet Lynn for
dinner. Camp overnight somewhere in Fargo area.

Day 5 - North to Grand Forks then west to Rugby to the
geographic center on North America. Continue west the
south to Garrison area and camp at Lake Sakakawea State
Park.

Day 6 - Then south to Bismark and west to Regent. South
on "Enchanted Highway" and then back north to I-94 and
continue west to Billings, MT. Camp overnight somewhere
near Billings.

Day 7 - South to Red Lodge and the Beartooth Scenic
Highway through northern Yellowstone in WY and back
up into MT. Then west and north to Hamilton and my
sister.

Ha! Bet you thought I couldn't do it! To be continued . . .

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Andy wrote:
> Kate Connally said...
>
>> Hi,
>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>>
>> I'll be travelling through the following states:
>> Michigan
>> Wisconsin
>> Minnesota
>> North Dakota
>> Montana
>> Washington (eastern)
>> Oregon (eastern)
>> Idaho
>> Wyoming
>> Nebraska
>> Iowa
>> Illinois
>> Indiana
>> Ohio
>> Kentucky
>> West Virginia
>>
>> Have at it.
>>
>> Kate
>
>
> Kate,
>
> Can that route actually be mapped out?
>
> Don't make me drag out my map software!
>
> Andy

Day 16 - Leave sister's house, taking sister with me and
heading north and west to Spokane, then south to Walla Walla
and into northeastern OR. Camp somewhere in Hell's Canyon
area.

Day 17 - See Hell's Canyon and then head south and east
into ID past Boise and down to Shoshone. Meet up with
sister's husband and camp in Craters of the Moon National
Monument.

Day 18 - Tour COTMNM and take leave of sister and husband
and head to Pocatello to see Potato Museum and then on to
Kemmerer, WY and then north toward Labarge. Camp overnight
in Bridger-Teton National Forest at Ham's Fork Campground.

Day 19 - Head into Labarge for breakfast at the Moondance
Diner (formerly of New York City) then head back south and
east to Laramie and Cheyenne, visiting the Red Desert on the
way. On into Nebraska and then north to Alliance to see
Carhenge. Camp overnight in the Alliance area.

Day 20 - Tour Carhenge and head east to South Sioux City,
then into Iowa and north to Spencer to visit Dewey Readmore
Books grave at the Spencer library. Camp overnight in the
Spencer area.

Day 21 - Continue east to Mason City to see the Music Man
Square and then east and south to Davenport and over the
border into IL. South to Springfield to see Abraham Lincoln's
tomb and then south to Collinsville. Camp overnight in the
Collinsville area.

Day 22 - See giant Brooks Catsup bottle in Collinsville and
then head east to Moonshine, IL to have lunch at the Moonshine
General Store. Then east to Indianapolis and south east to
Cincinnati and some Cincinnati-style chili for dinner. Then
south to Lexingtion, KY. Camp overnight in Lexington area.

Day 23 - Head east to Huntington, WV and then north to Le Sage
to Hillbilly Hotdogs for lunch. From there north to Pittsburgh.

Kate


--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Default User wrote:
> Kate Connally wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>
>> Iowa
>
> Pork tenderloin sandwich.
>
> <http://web.mac.com/davydd/Site/Pork_Tenderloin_Sandwich.html>
>
>
>
>
> Brian
>

Yeah, I think I saw that somewhere. Okay, I'll add that
to my list. Also, Maid-Rites!

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Mookie wrote:
> On Aug 28, 4:20 pm, Kate Connally > wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>>
>> I'll be travelling through the following states:
>> Michigan
>> Wisconsin
>> Minnesota
>> North Dakota
>> Montana
>> Washington (eastern)
>> Oregon (eastern)
>> Idaho
>> Wyoming
>> Nebraska
>> Iowa
>> Illinois
>> Indiana
>> Ohio
>> Kentucky
>> West Virginia
>>
>> Have at it.
>>
>> Kate
>>
>> --
>> Kate Connally
>> “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
>> Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
>> Until you bite their heads off.”
>> What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?
>>
>
> Kate, not that either of these is a gourmet treat, but I get a kick
> out of local things too. In
> Springfield, Illinois (and probably other places in central Illinois)
> they serve what they call a Horseshoe, or in the smaller size a Pony,
> You can get them in various
> combinations of meats and toppings over fries, or if you get a
> breakfast version over home fries. Pretty good, but high in
> everything that is bad for you.
>
> Also Loose Meat sandwiches in Springfield and I believe in the meat
> packing states further west. The one I had came on a bun with melted
> cheese on top of browned loose hamburger. The Horseshoe was better.
>
> Have a great trip.
> Ruth

Thanks, Ruth. I did see something about horseshoes in
Springfield. I'll be going through there so I'll plan on
having one.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

K wrote:
> Kate Connally wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>>
>> I'll be travelling through the following states:
>> Michigan
>> Wisconsin
>> Minnesota
>> North Dakota
>> Montana
>> Washington (eastern)
>> Oregon (eastern)
>> Idaho
>> Wyoming
>> Nebraska
>> Iowa
>> Illinois
>> Indiana
>> Ohio
>> Kentucky
>> West Virginia
>>
>> Have at it.
>>
>> Kate
>
> Check your route against the recommendations at roadfood.com. The Sterns
> are 'low food' gourmets who make their living writing books about what you
> want to do, and the restaurant reviews are either by them or by readers.
> They're very helpful, and usually spot-on. You can search by state.

Keith, I've already done that. Just want to catch any I've
missed.
Thanks,
Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

bulka wrote:
> For pasties you probably want the U. P., a little out of your way, I'm
> guessing.

Nope, going there. Will definitely look for a pasty.

> Near Detroit, get a Coney dog. Pretty horrible, but a regional
> thing. Somewhere around Ypsilanti I thinnk Kola's Kitchen is still
> around. Interesting soups and the only place I know to eat a muskrat.

Is that a real muskrat or just something called a muskrat?
I've eaten groundhog so how bad could muskrat be? ;-)

> In Chicago, you've got to get a good dog. Italian beef. Tons of
> every kind of ethnic place. Dare to risk gettiing lost in the
> neighborhoods.

Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, won't be anywhere near
Chicago.

> Not a fan of Cincy chili, but it is a thing.

I love the stuff and have had it several times and make
it myself on occasion. Actually just had some on Sunday
as I finally got around to trying Steak and Shake which
opened in Pittsburgh area a couple of years ago but not
anywhere convenient to me. They actually had it on the
menu so I got some to take home - had a steakburger and
shake for dinner (very disappointing). But the Cincy
chile was pretty good.

> And I second the Sterns' Roadfood.
>
> What's your local specialty?

Primanti's sandwiches with the slaw and fries on
the sandwich. They're the original one to do this.
I recently saw something on tv about a place in Chicago
that does the same thing but they're just copycats.

And, of course, there are always pierogi, Mancini's
bread, Isaly's chipped ham and the infamous chipped
ham bbq sandwich. There may be more but can't think
of them right now.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Stu wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:14:50 -0500, Janet Wilder >
> wrote:
>
> -->Kate Connally wrote:
> -->> Hi,
> -->> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
> -->> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
> -->> foods I might want to try in the different states
> -->> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
> -->> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
> -->> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
> -->>
> -->> I'll be travelling through the following states:
> -->> Michigan
> -->> Wisconsin
>
> Minnesota
> Check this place out when you get in Minnesota
> http://www.amboycottagecafe.com/
> Check the specials

Sounds lovely, but unfortunately won't be anywhere near
Minneapolis - just northern MN.
Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Mark A.Meggs wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:20:44 -0400, Kate Connally >
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>>
>> I'll be travelling through the following states:
>> Michigan
>> Wisconsin
>> Minnesota
>> North Dakota
>> Montana
>> Washington (eastern)
>> Oregon (eastern)
>> Idaho
>> Wyoming
>> Nebraska
>> Iowa
>> Illinois
>> Indiana
>> Ohio
>> Kentucky
>> West Virginia
>>
>> Have at it.
>>
>> Kate
>
> KY - Burgoo & bourbon. If you're going to be in Louisville, I can
> give you some excellant local restaurant recommendations.
>
> - Mark

Only going to be passing through the Lexington area,
camping there. Anything good close to Lexington.
Although thought I'd have Cincy chili for dinner on
the way and then camp near Lexington and then head for
WV the next day. Probably a good breakfast place would
be nice - I love (real, i. e. classic) diners.
Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Andy wrote:
> Kate,
>
> BTW, http://www.bbonline.com/recipe/index.html
>
> I'd road trip along to see you safely across.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy
> Jaguar is idling, just in case!

Thanks, Andy, but I camp, sleep in my car. Can't
afford stuff like motels and b&b's. Can barely afford
campgrounds these days. NPS and NFS are best but
state parks and commercial campgrounds are too expensive.
If necessary and I'm on an interstate I sleep in rest
areas.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> "Theron" > wrote in message
>> for the best "Road Food". You need to at least to see the door leading to
>> the kitchen is and sense the fresh food odors.. Forget about atmosphere.
>> http://www.roadfood.com/
>>
>> Ed
>
> Actually, the lack of atmosphere is a good atmosphere.
>
> While everyone's advice about following a guide is good, you don't always
> have that luxury. When traveling, we try to avoid the chains and try the
> locals. Somewhat of a crapshoot, you get some canned and bland food, but
> you also get some really good local stuff at reasonable prices at many.
>
> It should be a nice ride though, Kate. Hope you enjoy it.

Thanks, Ed.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Cindy Fuller wrote:
> In article >,
> Kate Connally > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>>
>> I'll be travelling through the following states:
>> Michigan
>> Wisconsin
>> Minnesota
>> North Dakota
>> Montana
>> Washington (eastern)
>> Oregon (eastern)
>> Idaho
>> Wyoming
>> Nebraska
>> Iowa
>> Illinois
>> Indiana
>> Ohio
>> Kentucky
>> West Virginia
>>
>> Have at it.
>>
>> Kate
>
> It's not necessarily local cuisine, but you definitely need to stop at
> the Park Cafe in St. Mary, MT. It's at the eastern edge of Glacier
> National Park. Their specialty is pie, and the motto is "Pie for
> Strength".
>
> Eastern WA (particularly the Palouse area south of Spokane) is the
> lentil capital of the US, and you'll also find barley grown thereabouts.
> The Walla Walla area is known for good wine.
>
> Cindy
>

Thanks, Cindy, but I'm not going to get anywhere near Glacier.
Too bad I didn't know about this place in 85 when I went up there. ;-)
Although maybe they weren't there yet.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Janet Wilder wrote:
> Cindy Fuller wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Kate Connally > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>>>
>>> I'll be travelling through the following states:
>>> Michigan
>>> Wisconsin
>>> Minnesota
>>> North Dakota
>>> Montana
>>> Washington (eastern)
>>> Oregon (eastern)
>>> Idaho
>>> Wyoming
>>> Nebraska
>>> Iowa
>>> Illinois
>>> Indiana
>>> Ohio
>>> Kentucky
>>> West Virginia
>>>
>>> Have at it.
>>>
>>> Kate
>>
>> It's not necessarily local cuisine, but you definitely need to stop at
>> the Park Cafe in St. Mary, MT. It's at the eastern edge of Glacier
>> National Park. Their specialty is pie, and the motto is "Pie for
>> Strength".
>> Eastern WA (particularly the Palouse area south of Spokane) is the
>> lentil capital of the US, and you'll also find barley grown
>> thereabouts. The Walla Walla area is known for good wine.
>
> ...and onions?

Yes, I plan to pick up a wine or 2 and there are lots of
goat cheese places there so maybe get some chevre and definitely
some sweet onions.

Kate


--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Jean B. wrote:
> Kate Connally wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>>
>> I'll be travelling through the following states:
>> Michigan
>> Wisconsin
>> Minnesota
>> North Dakota
>> Montana
>> Washington (eastern)
>> Oregon (eastern)
>> Idaho
>> Wyoming
>> Nebraska
>> Iowa
>> Illinois
>> Indiana
>> Ohio
>> Kentucky
>> West Virginia
>>
>> Have at it.
>>
>> Kate
>>
>>
> This may be obvious, but have you looked at books by Jane and Michael
> Stern? I bet they'd have some good tips for you. Also, I'd be tempted
> to look back at the books I have lauded: Food of a Younger Land,*
> America Cooks by The Browns...
>
> *Also, I gather Pat Willard's book, America Eats, which is also based on
> the unfinished project of that name from the 1930s and early 1940s, has
> just come out in PB form.

I'll have to check that out (from the library, that is ;-))
Thanks,
Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

"Kate Connally" > wrote in message
...
> Stu wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:14:50 -0500, Janet Wilder >
>> wrote:
>>
>> -->Kate Connally wrote:
>> -->> Hi,
>> -->> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>> -->> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>> -->> foods I might want to try in the different states
>> -->> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>> -->> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>> -->> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>> -->> -->> I'll be travelling through the following states:
>> -->> Michigan
>> -->> Wisconsin
>>
>> Minnesota
>> Check this place out when you get in Minnesota
>> http://www.amboycottagecafe.com/
>> Check the specials
>
> Sounds lovely, but unfortunately won't be anywhere near
> Minneapolis - just northern MN.
> Kate
>
> --
> Kate Connally
> “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
> Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
> Until you bite their heads off.”
> What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?
>

Amboy, MN is actually another 2 hours south of Minneapolis. If you were
taking I-90 across the state, it wouldn't be too far off the beaten path for
you to throw into your trip.

Jinx

Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig wrote:
> I just read "America Eats" - from the Library. Don't need to buy it.
> it's not a keeper. I've been reading Jane and Michael Stern since the
> 70s. Been thru at least three editions of "Roadfood". North Dakota
> to the Jersey Shore and ND to Ohio more times than I can count. I'm
> going to get a copy of "500 Things to Eat before it's Too Late"!
> Lynn in Fargo
> Still making Jane & Michael Stern's Garlic Coleslaw and the Sour Cream
> Raisin Pie from the Norske Nook in Osseo, Wisconsin

Oh! I'll have to look those up!

I guess whether or not a book is a keeper is largely subjective....

--
Jean B.

jmcquown wrote:
> "Kate Connally" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hi,
>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>>
>> I'll be travelling through the following states:
>> Michigan
>> Wisconsin
>> Minnesota
>> North Dakota
>> Montana
>> Washington (eastern)
>> Oregon (eastern)
>> Idaho
>> Wyoming
>> Nebraska
>> Iowa
>> Illinois
>> Indiana
>> Ohio
>> Kentucky
>> West Virginia
>>
>> Have at it.
>>
>> Kate
>>
>
> Wild rice soup in Minnesota! It's delicious! I'd have a pork sandwich
> in Iowa rather than in Montana. Iowa is the top pork producer.
> Kentucky is known as the mutton capital of the U.S. for some strange
> reason... maybe a bowl of mutton stew if you can find it on a menu?
>
> Have fun on your trip!
>
> Jill

Yeah, I hope to pick up some wild rice while I'm there. (Barb
Schaller was nice enough once to bring some with her to Margaret
Suran's and I got a bag from her. It was lovely.)

I think there are 2 kinds of pork sandwiches - in Montana they
are pork chop sandwiches and in Iowa they are pork tenderloin
sandwiches - if I have it right. Anyway, I'll have one of each.

As for mutton - blech! That's old sheep not lamb. I like very
young lamb but even older lamb is way too gamey. I wouldn't
touch mutton with a 10-foot pole. ;-)

Thanks anyway,
Kate
--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

On Aug 28, 5:20*pm, zxcvbob > wrote:
> Kate Connally wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
> > few weeks. *Just wondering if there are any local
> > foods I might want to try in the different states
> > that I don't already know about. *(For instance, pasties
> > in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
> > runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>
> I recently learned not to order Chinese food in small town Oklahoma
> (might even have been on an Indian reservation) *:-P
>
> Bob

That's a given in just about any small town. We made that mistake
while driving through Nova Scotia once....

maxine in ri

Michael O'Connor wrote:
> If you are heading north toward Akron then going west, you might want
> to check out the Emlenton Truck Stop in Emlenton PA, which is
> nationally known for having the "World's Worst Apple Pie".

And I would want to do that why . . . ? ? ? Besides I can do that
any time. I'm mainly interested in things farther away.

> I haven't
> talked to my sister in a couple years, but the last time I talked to
> her she was still waiting tables there.

Your poor sister. :-(

> For Cincinnati Chili you would want to stop at Skyline Chili, there
> are some throughout Northern Ohio. I recommend the five way (noodles,
> sauce, cheese, beans and onions) and a coney dog.

I've been to Skyline. I love their chili. I always get 5-way.
I have a good copycat recipe I make at home.

I didn't know they have coney dogs as Skyline. Maybe I'll try
one sometime.

> Skyline also sells
> more York's Peppermint Patties than any other restaurant chain in the
> world; it is traditional to cap your meal off with a couple peppermint
> patties.

Well, I'm going to have to flout tradition here. Not fond of
peppermint-flavored things. And I wouldn't want to ruin the
lingering taste of the chili in my mouth by eating a peppermint
patty afterward. I like to savor the chili.

> When I lived in Cincinnati one of the big local dishes was Goetta,
> pronounced GET-TA, which is a combination of seasoned ground pork and
> oatmeal which is fried in a skillet in thin patties like sausage.

Sounds interesting. I'll have to try it sometime. I'll put it
on my list of thing to try. But not on this trip. I'm close
enough to Cincy to go there another time just for that.

> Never cared for it, must be an acquired taste. Scrapple is also big
> in the midwest, but never tried it because I draw the line at eating
> pork brains and internal organs.

Well, me neither, but I make my own scrapple with good meat in
it. Yum!

> I love Detroit Coneys, but I think National Coney Island is just in
> the Metro Detroit area, at least when I lived there in the mid 90's.
> For those who have never had one, a Detroit Coney has a bun topped
> with a slice of american cheese, the hot dog, loose seasoned meat and
> topped with chili without beans, then onions and mustard. It is
> recommended to eat with a knife and fork.

I already have plans for the Detroit area so I'll pass on the
Coney for now. But their version doesn't really appeal to me
anyway, I like cheddar on my chili dogs and I'd have to ask them
to hold the mustard. Other than that is sounds good.

Thanks,
Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Michael O'Connor wrote:

> When I lived in Cincinnati one of the big local dishes was Goetta,
> pronounced GET-TA, which is a combination of seasoned ground pork and
> oatmeal which is fried in a skillet in thin patties like sausage.
> Never cared for it, must be an acquired taste. Scrapple is also big
> in the midwest, but never tried it because I draw the line at eating
> pork brains and internal organs.


It looks like they have goetta in the Lexington area and I'm
planning to go through there on the way back. Do you know
of any good places for breakfast that would have goetta in
Lexington area?

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:38:39 -0400, Kate Connally >
wrote:

>Andy wrote:

>> Can that route actually be mapped out?
>>
>> Don't make me drag out my map software!
>>
>> Andy
>
>Dear Andy,
>Yes, of course it can - how else could I plan my trip?
>I have it all mapped out on a AAA online triptik.
>I will be driving from Pittsburgh to Cleveland then
>Toledo, then Detroit. From Detroit northwest across
>the Lower Peninusula to Glen Arbor. Will visit Cherry
>Republic and camp overnight at Sleeping Bear Dunes National
>Lakeshore.
>
>Day 2 tour SLBNL then head to Traverse City and
>tour Old Mission Peninsula. Next to Mackinaw City and
>over Mackinac Bridge to Upper Peninsula to Grand Marais.
>Camp overnight at Pictured Rocks National Lakeshore.
>
>Day 3 head west across norther UP to Wisconsin. Across
>northern WI to Duluth and then north along Lake Superior
>to Silver Bay and then inland to Ely, MN. Camp overnight
>near Ely in Superior National Forest.
>
>Day 4 visit Soudan Iron Mine State Park and take neutrino
>lab tour and mine tour. Head to Fargo, ND. Meet Lynn for
>dinner. Camp overnight somewhere in Fargo area.
>
>Day 5 - North to Grand Forks then west to Rugby to the
>geographic center on North America. Continue west the
>south to Garrison area and camp at Lake Sakakawea State
>Park.
>
>Day 6 - Then south to Bismark and west to Regent. South
>on "Enchanted Highway" and then back north to I-94 and
>continue west to Billings, MT. Camp overnight somewhere
>near Billings.
>
>Day 7 - South to Red Lodge and the Beartooth Scenic
>Highway through northern Yellowstone in WY and back
>up into MT. Then west and north to Hamilton and my
>sister.
>
>Ha! Bet you thought I couldn't do it! To be continued . . .

I can only say you've put a LOT of driving in every day.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Jeanne Burton wrote:
>>> "Kate Connally" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>>>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>>>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>>>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>>>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>>>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>
> <hoping I got the attributions right as I snipped, and delurking after
> several years to say...>
>
> If you're going thru Ann Arbor Mi, there are several interesting
> places you might want to visit, including Zingerman's Deli, and Krazy
> Jim's Blimpy Burger. Toledo's minor claim to fame, besides Chili-Mac
> (kind of like Cincinnati chili only without cinnamon in the sauce)
> seems to be Tony Packo's Hungarian Hot Dogs, immortalized by Corporal
> Klinger of MASH fame, who actually grew up a few blocks from the
> original Packos restaurant. If you're interested in more info, let me
> know...
>
> Jeanne in Toledo

Thanks, but unfortunately I won't be near Ann Arbor.
I'll save this in case I get to MI another time.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

On Sep 1, 11:08*am, Kate Connally > wrote:
> bulka wrote:
> > For pasties you probably want the U. P., a little out of your way, I'm
> > guessing.
>
> Nope, going there. *Will definitely look for a pasty.
>
> > Near Detroit, get a Coney dog. *Pretty horrible, but a regional
> > thing. * *Somewhere around Ypsilanti I thinnk Kola's Kitchen is still
> > around. *Interesting soups and the only place I know to eat a muskrat..
>
> Is that a real muskrat or just something called a muskrat?
> I've eaten groundhog so how bad could muskrat be? ;-)

Probably real muskrat. Kola's is in Riverview, which you'll
pass near or through between Toledo and Detroit.

IIRC, muskrat is okayed by the local bishop for consumption on
Fridays during Lent. I googled muskrat lent, and turned up a
reference.
Interesting reading even if you don't want to eat muskrat.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:17:27 -0400, Kate Connally >
wrote:

>Mark A.Meggs wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:20:44 -0400, Kate Connally >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>>>
>>> I'll be travelling through the following states:
>>> Michigan
>>> Wisconsin
>>> Minnesota
>>> North Dakota
>>> Montana
>>> Washington (eastern)
>>> Oregon (eastern)
>>> Idaho
>>> Wyoming
>>> Nebraska
>>> Iowa
>>> Illinois
>>> Indiana
>>> Ohio
>>> Kentucky
>>> West Virginia
>>>
>>> Have at it.
>>>
>>> Kate
>>
>> KY - Burgoo & bourbon. If you're going to be in Louisville, I can
>> give you some excellant local restaurant recommendations.
>>
>> - Mark
>
>Only going to be passing through the Lexington area,
>camping there. Anything good close to Lexington.
>Although thought I'd have Cincy chili for dinner on
>the way and then camp near Lexington and then head for
>WV the next day. Probably a good breakfast place would
>be nice - I love (real, i. e. classic) diners.
>Kate

I'm not up on the Lexington restaurant scene - sorry. If you're
spending the night and have a few hours, you might want to check out
the Kentucky Horse Park.

- Mark

"Kate Connally" > wrote in message
area.
>
> Day 23 - Head east to Huntington, WV and then north to Le Sage
> to Hillbilly Hotdogs for lunch. From there north to Pittsburgh.
>
> Kate

Sounds like quite a trip. Have you figured the miles and driving time? At a
glance, I know it can be done but I have no idea how much time you have each
day for touristy things.

I've driven cross country a couple of times, but want to some day do a full
circle over a period of 6 weeks or so.

Mark A.Meggs wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:17:27 -0400, Kate Connally >
> wrote:
>
>> Mark A.Meggs wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:20:44 -0400, Kate Connally >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>>>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>>>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>>>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>>>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>>>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>>>>
>>>> I'll be travelling through the following states:
>>>> Michigan
>>>> Wisconsin
>>>> Minnesota
>>>> North Dakota
>>>> Montana
>>>> Washington (eastern)
>>>> Oregon (eastern)
>>>> Idaho
>>>> Wyoming
>>>> Nebraska
>>>> Iowa
>>>> Illinois
>>>> Indiana
>>>> Ohio
>>>> Kentucky
>>>> West Virginia
>>>>
>>>> Have at it.
>>>>
>>>> Kate
>>> KY - Burgoo & bourbon. If you're going to be in Louisville, I can
>>> give you some excellant local restaurant recommendations.
>>>
>>> - Mark
>> Only going to be passing through the Lexington area,
>> camping there. Anything good close to Lexington.
>> Although thought I'd have Cincy chili for dinner on
>> the way and then camp near Lexington and then head for
>> WV the next day. Probably a good breakfast place would
>> be nice - I love (real, i. e. classic) diners.
>> Kate
>
> I'm not up on the Lexington restaurant scene - sorry. If you're
> spending the night and have a few hours, you might want to check out
> the Kentucky Horse Park.
>
> - Mark


--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Mark A.Meggs wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:17:27 -0400, Kate Connally >
> wrote:
>
>> Mark A.Meggs wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:20:44 -0400, Kate Connally >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I'm driving from Pittsburgh to Hamilton, MT in a
>>>> few weeks. Just wondering if there are any local
>>>> foods I might want to try in the different states
>>>> that I don't already know about. (For instance, pasties
>>>> in Michigan and Montana, pork chop sandwiches in Montana,
>>>> runzas in Nebraska, Cincinnati chili.)
>>>>
>>>> I'll be travelling through the following states:
>>>> Michigan
>>>> Wisconsin
>>>> Minnesota
>>>> North Dakota
>>>> Montana
>>>> Washington (eastern)
>>>> Oregon (eastern)
>>>> Idaho
>>>> Wyoming
>>>> Nebraska
>>>> Iowa
>>>> Illinois
>>>> Indiana
>>>> Ohio
>>>> Kentucky
>>>> West Virginia
>>>>
>>>> Have at it.
>>>>
>>>> Kate
>>> KY - Burgoo & bourbon. If you're going to be in Louisville, I can
>>> give you some excellant local restaurant recommendations.
>>>
>>> - Mark
>> Only going to be passing through the Lexington area,
>> camping there. Anything good close to Lexington.
>> Although thought I'd have Cincy chili for dinner on
>> the way and then camp near Lexington and then head for
>> WV the next day. Probably a good breakfast place would
>> be nice - I love (real, i. e. classic) diners.
>> Kate
>
> I'm not up on the Lexington restaurant scene - sorry. If you're
> spending the night and have a few hours, you might want to check out
> the Kentucky Horse Park.
>
> - Mark


I've seen the Kentucky Horse Park but have never gone
in. I hope to do it one of these days but probably won't
have the time. I love just driving around the Lexington
countryside and seeing all the horse farms and horses. I've
done that a few times in the past. I love horses!

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> "Kate Connally" > wrote in message
> area.
>> Day 23 - Head east to Huntington, WV and then north to Le Sage
>> to Hillbilly Hotdogs for lunch. From there north to Pittsburgh.
>>
>> Kate
>
> Sounds like quite a trip. Have you figured the miles and driving time?

Yes, and I've done similar trips before so I'm pretty sure I can
do it. The outbound trip is approx. 3000 miles, which averages out
to less than 500 miles per day. That is easily doable in my experience.
The return is about 4000 miles in 8 days so that's about 500 miles per
day. Some days will be more miles when there's less to see and more
country to cover, others will be less so I can spend a little time
in certain places.

> At a
> glance, I know it can be done but I have no idea how much time you have each
> day for touristy things.

Well, not all the much probably but I don't have the time and
money to make a more leisurely trip so I'll just do what I can
and not worry about stuff I'm not able to do. I'm in the process
of prioritizing things I want to see.

> I've driven cross country a couple of times, but want to some day do a full
> circle over a period of 6 weeks or so.

In 85 I drove around the country from L. A. where I was living then.
I drove up through Nevada, Utah, Wyoming, Montana, N. Dakota, Minnesota,
up into Canada and around Lake Superior and down into Michigan, then
over into Canada again to Niagara Falls and then south through New York
into PA. From PA I went east to PA Dutch country and down in to
Maryland and DC and then to Virginia Beach and then back to the Blue
Ridge and south to Gr. Smoky Mtns. and to Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi,
Louisiana (New Orleans) then across Texas through San Antonio, to New
Mexico, Arizona and then home. I was gone 1 month (30 days) with 20
days on the road actually travelling. I drove 10,000 miles in 20 days
which averages to 500 miles per day. The rest of the time I spend
visiting relatives in Pittsburgh, Virginia Beach, Huntsville, and
Tucson. I got to visit a lot of great places even though I didn't
get to stay as long as I would have liked in some of them. But I'm
glad I did it. I've driven across the country 3 other times, not
counting when I moved to CA and when I moved back to PA.

I hope you get to make your "grand tour". Mine was great!

Kate


--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

"Kate Connally" > wrote in message

>
> Well, not all the much probably but I don't have the time and
> money to make a more leisurely trip so I'll just do what I can
> and not worry about stuff I'm not able to do. I'm in the process
> of prioritizing things I want to see.

I've taken a few trips recently and the goal was to avoid any interstate or
major highway if possible. You travel about a third of the distance, but
see lots more. If the goal is to be at a certaiin point at a certain time,
it won't work for you. One year I drove to Niagra Falls in one day, but took
two days to get back the same distance and I still had to get on the highway
the last 120 miles or so because I had to go to work the next day.


>
>> I've driven cross country a couple of times, but want to some day do a
>> full circle over a period of 6 weeks or so.
>
> In 85 I drove around the country from L. A. where I was living then.
> I drove up through Nevada, Utah, Wyoming, Montana, N. Dakota, Minnesota,
> up into Canada and around Lake Superior and down into Michigan, then
> over into Canada again to Niagara Falls and then south through New York
> into PA. From PA I went east to PA Dutch country and down in to Maryland
> and DC and then to Virginia Beach and then back to the Blue
> Ridge and south to Gr. Smoky Mtns. and to Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi,
> Louisiana (New Orleans) then across Texas through San Antonio, to New
> Mexico, Arizona and then home. I was gone 1 month (30 days) with 20 days
> on the road actually travelling. I drove 10,000 miles in 20 days
> which averages to 500 miles per day.


That is quite a trip. Based on your times, I'd probably have to extend my
six week time frame. I'd use the highway in places that I've already seen,
but the back roads for much of the rest of it.



>
> I hope you get to make your "grand tour". Mine was great!
>
> Kate

Thanks, if I do, I'll be sue to let you know.