Gloria P wrote:

> You can still ride, can't you, without jumping. I'd modify before
> deciding to give it up completely if you really love it.
>
> In my mid 60's I still ski, just not on the same slopes and a bit
> slower than I did 20 years ago. (Didn't really start until I was 40,
> old enough to develop some coordination.) ;-)

There are places where I can trail ride, but after a number of years of
jumping lessons, doing a lot of trotting, cantering and jumping, trail
riding would be pretty boring.
I have told the stable that I am out for at least a month and wondering
if I should continue. Maybe I can stick it out for a while. I am not in
advanced classes and my instructor does not push me. She knows I am
just there for fun and not preparing for competition like my class
mates. I just don't like the idea of having another broken bone down the
road and having to think about how I should have taken a hint after two.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> So now I am sitting at home, taking it easy and taking pain killers,
> extra strength Tylenol and Ibuprophen and Ibuprophen and Tylenol 3 to
> sleep.

Note that Tylenol must never be combined with alcohol.
It causes liver failure.

On the other hand, ibuprofen seems to be fine with
alcohol, though it's unlikely the manufacturer or
your doctor will tell you that.

"Dave Smith" > wrote

> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons when
> that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as there were
> no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I am getting close
> to 60.


I hear you. I am the same age. Things just don't heat the way they used
to.

Forget the lessons. Throw away that English saddle and bridle and get a
nice comfortable Western saddle and ride a neck-reining horse. Trail rides
are a whole lot of fun, you can pack a nice lunch in a saddle bag and have a
heck of a good time with less of a chance of injury.

All the lessons you need for that will take about 2 minutes.

George L

ChattyCathy wrote:

>> What do you dislike about horse meat?
>
> Bought a couple of (mystery) meat pies from some deli when I was a
> teenager. I took a few bites which tasted more than awful to me, so I
> was going to chuck 'em. However, my Dad (who has a thing about wasting
> food, any food) said he'd have a taste first - and then informed me
> that said pies tasted like horse meat pies, and ate them anyway... He
> didn't die or even get a stomach ache, but it put me off horse meat for
> life.

What if it *wasn't* horse meat? Horse tastes very much like beef, only a bit
sweeter and chewier. I'm not saying you should seek it out, but you might
not have actually eaten horse meat. If you happen to run across something
that you *know* is horse meat, then it might be worthwhile to give it a try.



>> (Also, "I know you said you don't like cabbage, but that's because you
>> haven't had cabbage the way that *I* make it...") :-)
>
> <snork>
>
> Are you sure you're not related to my Dad's side of the family somehow?
> He's been trying to get me to eat his 'special' cabbage for decades. I
> take a bite or two every now and again to appease him - but nothing
> changes; he's been eating my share for every one of those decades...

LOL, no, that's just one of the RFC recurring motifs.

Bob

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:10:09 -0500, Kathleen
> wrote:

>Fugly Horse of the
>Day is also an excellent resource for advice on chosing an appropriate
>mount.
>
>http://www.fuglyblog.com/

I sent this site on to a horsey friend who will be interested in the
"adopt me" horses and appalled by some of the stories, thanks.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Dave Smith wrote:
> Dang. I look forward to this vacation all year long because there is
> canoing, sailing, hiking and, best of all, horse back riding. I take
> riding lessons all year so that I can go on the advanced ride, galloping
> through the woods and the jumping trails. There are a lot of old friends
> who also attend regularly.
>
"snip"
>
> Then the instructor added a second jump. She flew over the first one,
> but as we approached the second one she went left, then right and then a
> sharp left. Off I flew, slamming into the dirt and hitting with my
> face, chest and hip. I got up spitting out a mouthful of dirt. It hurt.
> That's usually a good sign, because you don't usually feel bad injuries
> right away.
I am thinking old dog >new tricks > nah not possible
>

> So now I am sitting at home, taking it easy and taking pain killers,
> extra strength Tylenol and Ibuprophen and Ibuprophen and Tylenol 3 to
> sleep.
>
> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as there
> were no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I am
> getting close to 60.
> :-(
mmm might be time to fess up your no horsy rider , perhaps a good game
of canasta as falling is natures way of telling you " Fella your unco"
next time you might not just break stuff and survive..

ChattyCathy wrote:
> PeterL2 wrote:
>> You've been taking lessons for 6 years or more, you took lessons all
>> year long for the past 12 months, and you *still* fell off the damn
>> horse??!!
>>
>> You're absolutely useless at horse riding so it's high time you took
>> up
>> another hobby. Please don't even consider skydiving.
>>
>> May I suggest crocheting, or knitting??
>>
>> No sympathy for the busted rib, dude, you got what you deserved for
>> thinking that you can do something you can't.
>
> IMHO, you're being way too harsh here Peter.

Abrupt but accurate imho

I've seen professional
> show-jumping riders get thrown from a horse.
but they are much younger and practise for decades to do this

If something spooks a
> horse, they can and do panic (or sometimes they just refuse to jump at
> the last minute and slam on brakes - and there goes the rider). And no
> matter how much experience the rider has - when that sort of thing
> happens sometimes they get thrown...
>
> That's why I'm skeered of horses and just admire them from afar.


Admire them up close with bits crumbed and slow cooked in an iron pan
with garlic and baby potatoes and honey carrots

Dave Smith wrote:
> notbob wrote:
>> On 2009-09-02, Dave Smith > wrote:
>>
>>> I never broke a bone until I was 52 and got thrown over a jump.
>>
>> One of the reasons I quit riding a motorcycle full time. My likewise
>> ex-motorcycling buddy said it best. "I don't bounce worth a damn,
>> anymore."
>
> I ride a motorcycle too. My older brother gave me a big tut tut,
> suggesting that after breaking bones on two different occasions I should
> not wait until the third one because it could be more serious. Good
> advice coming from someone who has had two motorcycle accidents himself.
> He broke a rib the last time. Curious that eh thinks I should quit
> riding horses but sees no problem with himself still riding a motorcycle.
Having broken over a dozen bones on bikes I finally stopped when told
another fall would mean not walking again
Sometimes you just have to stop

"atec 7 7" <"atec > wrote in message
...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> Dang. I look forward to this vacation all year long because there is
>> canoing, sailing, hiking and, best of all, horse back riding. I take
>> riding lessons all year so that I can go on the advanced ride, galloping
>> through the woods and the jumping trails. There are a lot of old friends
>> who also attend regularly.
>>
> "snip"
>>
>> Then the instructor added a second jump. She flew over the first one, but
>> as we approached the second one she went left, then right and then a
>> sharp left. Off I flew, slamming into the dirt and hitting with my face,
>> chest and hip. I got up spitting out a mouthful of dirt. It hurt. That's
>> usually a good sign, because you don't usually feel bad injuries
>> right away.
> I am thinking old dog >new tricks > nah not possible
>>
>
>> So now I am sitting at home, taking it easy and taking pain killers,
>> extra strength Tylenol and Ibuprophen and Ibuprophen and Tylenol 3 to
>> sleep.
>>
>> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
>> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons when
>> that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as there were
>> no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I am getting
>> close to 60.
>> :-(
> mmm might be time to fess up your no horsy rider , perhaps a good game of
> canasta as falling is natures way of telling you " Fella your unco" next
> time you might not just break stuff and survive..

Well, Dave, I guess you got what you deserved here.

In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> ChattyCathy wrote:
>
> >> There's nothing better than a cubed shoulder of horse slow braised
> >> with some red wine and veges........ ObFood.
> >
> > You can have my share.
>
> While I disagree with "there's nothing better," I will say that horse meat
> is some very good stuff. I know many people whose upbringing makes them
> opposed to it, but I don't think eating horse is any more immoral than
> eating pork.
>
> Bob

How about cat or dog?
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In article > ,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > I can understand. I fell and sprained my right rotator cuff not too
> > long ago and it's causing me a lot of pain issues, altho' Airrosti is
> > helping it to heal a lot faster than it normally would.
> >
> > The clavicle being part of the shoulder girdle, I can bet it hurt one
> > HELL of a lot! I'm betting you had trouble sleeping...
>
>
> I have damaged both rotators over the years, and at the time I figured
> that was the most painful injury I had ever suffered. Accidentally
> moving the arm would cause a blast of searing pain that will bring tears
> to your eyes, but that severe pain only lasted for a few days and then
> it was just stiff and sore for a long time. The collar bone ranks right
> up there in pain, maybe even a little worse, and it lasted a lot longer.

<hugs>

>
> The only way I slept with the collar bone was with Oxycontin at bedtime
> and another one around 4 am after waking up in pain. I had to sleep on
> my back, which I can't do unless under heavy duty medication.

I understand. A steroid shot got me thru the worst of it, but not until
day 10.

>
> The fractured rib is nowhere near as painful as the collarbone, except
> that it also requires that I sleep on my back. The Tylenol 3 at bedtime
> allows me to sleep through the night. Then it is time for the extra
> strength Tylenol and Ibuprophen combination as soon as I get up.

Ow. Hope you heal up quick!
Take your minerals. :-)
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In article >,
Mark Thorson > wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > So now I am sitting at home, taking it easy and taking pain killers,
> > extra strength Tylenol and Ibuprophen and Ibuprophen and Tylenol 3 to
> > sleep.
>
> Note that Tylenol must never be combined with alcohol.
> It causes liver failure.
>
> On the other hand, ibuprofen seems to be fine with
> alcohol, though it's unlikely the manufacturer or
> your doctor will tell you that.

True, but don't forget that Ibuprofen (while it IS my OTC painkiller of
choice) is hard on the kidneys.

Drink lots of water with it.

I won't touch Tylenol in any combo.
But, that's just me.
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In article >,
Goomba > wrote:

> Mark Thorson wrote:
>
> >
> > Note that Tylenol must never be combined with alcohol.
> > It causes liver failure.
>
>
> It *can*, not that it always does.

Indeed.
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Omelet > wrote:

>I can understand. I fell and sprained my right rotator cuff not too
>long ago and it's causing me a lot of pain issues, altho' Airrosti is
>helping it to heal a lot faster than it normally would.

So in your experience, how does Airrosti differ from conventional
physical therapy?

I'm facing a slow-healing sprain myself the past several weeks.

Steve

In article >,
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> Omelet > wrote:
>
> >I can understand. I fell and sprained my right rotator cuff not too
> >long ago and it's causing me a lot of pain issues, altho' Airrosti is
> >helping it to heal a lot faster than it normally would.
>
> So in your experience, how does Airrosti differ from conventional
> physical therapy?

Works faster. The hands on therapy speeds things up for soft tissue
injury, and the practitioners have the training to help you learn the
exercises you need to know and do to help yourself.

Dr. Perry helped me with both newer and very much older leg injuries
sustained from a fall in 2008 and being clipped by a pickup truck while
walking back to the student parking lot when I was 23. (I'm 47) He also
taught me a series of leg exercises I'd never done before and I followed
all of his advice.

I can now move better than I've been able to in years.

As for the rotator cuff injury, it's not quite ok just yet, but last
time I hurt one, (the left, this is now the right), it took over a year
to get back to even a semblance of normal and never really has been
right. I've asked him for help with that one too.

The right one, after less than two months, is already far advanced over
what I experienced last time.
>
> I'm facing a slow-healing sprain myself the past several weeks.
>
> Steve

Are you in Texas or Oklahoma? That is currently the only two areas they
have providers in.
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"Ophelia" > wrote in news:7g7kboF2nrtvgU1
@mid.individual.net:

>
> "PeterL" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Don't get me wrong.......... if the guy is going to get out there and
do
>> something like that, more power to him!! But don't come whinging and
>> whining
>> in here expecting sympathy from everyone if you get hurt doing it.
>>
>> I've been skydiving since I was 15 years old. I'm 53 now, and with the
>> injuries that I'm carrying, I have made the decision that my skydiving
>> days
>> are almost over.
>> You don't see me in here ****ing and moaning about it.
>
> Yes we have been hearing all about your war years We have been here
> before
>



*Really*??? You seem so sure of that, then that must mean you have some
proof to back up your bullshit claims. Please show it.

To not do so will show everyone what you are.


> Leave him alone. I believe far more of what he says that anything you
say!
>


GFY.

I am entitled to my opinion, exzactly the same as you have just done.

So, in your tiny little mind, you can have your say on anything, about
anyone, but no-one else can, right?



--
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Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

ChattyCathy > wrote in news:2Uxnm.18136$Y83.90
@newsfe21.iad:

> PeterL wrote:
>
> <snip>
>>
>> I've seen it happen too. But then, those riders didn't come onto a
>> food/ cooking group and whine about it.
>
> <snip>
>>
>> You gotta know when to hold 'em, and you gotta know when to fold 'em.
>>
>
> I'd hardly call it whining.



C'mon!!! It was a "give me sympathy because I've been stupid" post!!


And he had everyone falling all over themselves ooooooing and ahhhhing.

If he's expecting sympathy from me, I'll tell him to look in the dictionary
between 'shit' and 'syphllis'. That's where you find sympathy.


Maybe he should have a look over the 'Darwin Awards'.

http://www.darwinawards.com/




> And if you read the OP


Which I did.


> he did state that he
> was considering giving up riding lessons.


That's why I called him a 'slow learner'.

60yo and trying to act like a 30yo!!


>
> <snip>
>
>> But having said that........ I like horses.
>>
>> There's nothing better than a cubed shoulder of horse slow braised
>> with some red wine and veges........ ObFood.
>
> You can have my share.


Don't knock it till you try it!! It's very lean meat.

It'd make nice biltong too :-)



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

notbob > wrote in
:

> On 2009-09-02, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>
>> I'd hardly call it whining. And if you read the OP he did state that he
>> was considering giving up riding lessons.
>
> It's a good idea. My brother broke his same collar bone (clavicle)
> twice racing motocross. Doc said if you break it again, I may not be
> able to mend it at all, next time. That bone is not a thick heavy
> bone like a leg bone (tibia), but flat and thin (relatively). Maybe
> they have better medical options, now. Ask one of our nurses.
>
> nb
>


http://www.homemademedicine.com/home...-fracture.html

"NOTE: Bone mass increases continually throughout life until approximately
30-40 years of age. In later years, net bone loss occurs when bone
resorption exceeds the amount of bone formed. In fact, bones lose their
density continuously each year after the age of 30 in both men and women."


http://www.news-medical.net/news/2009/01/19/45079.aspx

"New understanding on how aging causes broken bones to heal slowly
19. January 2009 02:39
Researchers have unraveled crucial details of how aging causes broken
bones to heal slowly, or not at all, according to study results published
today in the Journal of Bone and Mineral Research.

The research team also successfully conducted preclinical tests on a
potential new class of treatments designed to "rescue" healing capability
lost to aging.

In the worst cases, an age-related delay in healing keeps the two sides of
a fractured bone from ever rejoining (non-union), leaving many confined to
wheelchairs, unable to walk or to live independently."





--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

Omelet > wrote in
news
> In article >,
> "Bob Twitilliger" > ****ed and moaned and
cried:
>
>> ViLco wrote:
>>
>> > What about sticking with plain riding and avoid jumping? It sure
>> > would be safer and you could still be riding. Best wishes for your
>> > recovery.
>>
>> That was my first thought also. Dave, you shouldn't have to give up
>> riding COMPLETELY if you love it that much. Lin goes horseback riding
>> with her niece and grandchildren every chance she gets, but she
>> obviously doesn't take a five-year-old onto a steeplechase course!
>>
>> Also, Peter needs to have a couple chutes fail, doesn't he?
>>
>> Bob
>
> No comment...



You can let 'Boogle Bob' know that I have indeed had more than a couple of
chutes fail, but I survived them all.

It comes down to training, and reactions. Something the OP has lost at 60
years of age.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

ChattyCathy > wrote in news:wcAnm.18168$Y83.5090
@newsfe21.iad:

> Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>
>> ChattyCathy wrote:
>>
>>>> There's nothing better than a cubed shoulder of horse slow braised
>>>> with some red wine and veges........ ObFood.
>>>
>>> You can have my share.
>>
>> While I disagree with "there's nothing better," I will say that horse
>> meat is some very good stuff. I know many people whose upbringing
>> makes them opposed to it, but I don't think eating horse is any more
>> immoral than eating pork.
>
> Did I say it was immoral to eat horse meat? Must have missed that post.



Don't mind 'Boogle Bob'..... he's on his 'high horse' again :-)


>
> FWIW, horse meat just doesn't appeal to me - or cabbage - blech.
>


Fresh cabbage, cut into chunks, sauteed in a saucepan with lots of butter
and curry powder so that you still have some crunch left in the
cabbage........ YUM!!!

I used to have a Dutch girlfriend, whose Mum taught me to have it that
way.... and the Dutch *are* related to the Boers :-)



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

Omelet > wrote in
news
> In article >,
> "Boogle Bob" > wrote:
>
>> ChattyCathy wrote:
>>
>> >> There's nothing better than a cubed shoulder of horse slow braised
>> >> with some red wine and veges........ ObFood.
>> >
>> > You can have my share.
>>
>> While I disagree with "there's nothing better," I will say that horse
>> meat is some very good stuff. I know many people whose upbringing makes
>> them opposed to it, but I don't think eating horse is any more immoral
>> than eating pork.
>>
>> Bob
>
> How about cat or dog?



It's a protein source in some countries...... same as whale meat.

And whilst in those countries, you have to do as the locals do :-)


Fortunately, we have an abundance of cows in Oz ;-)

--
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Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

atec 7 7 <"atec > wrote in -
september.org:

>
> ChattyCathy wrote:
>> PeterL2 wrote:
>>> You've been taking lessons for 6 years or more, you took lessons all
>>> year long for the past 12 months, and you *still* fell off the damn
>>> horse??!!
>>>
>>> You're absolutely useless at horse riding so it's high time you took
>>> up
>>> another hobby. Please don't even consider skydiving.
>>>
>>> May I suggest crocheting, or knitting??
>>>
>>> No sympathy for the busted rib, dude, you got what you deserved for
>>> thinking that you can do something you can't.
>>
>> IMHO, you're being way too harsh here Peter.
>
> Abrupt but accurate imho
>


Yeah, to SO always says I'm about as subtle as a kick in the gonads :-)

Life's too short to play namby-pamby with idiots.

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

atec 7 7 <"atec > wrote in -
september.org:

> Dave Smith wrote:

>> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
>> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
>> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as there
>> were no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I am
>> getting close to 60.
>> :-(
> mmm might be time to fess up your no horsy rider , perhaps a good game
> of canasta as falling is natures way of telling you " Fella your unco"
> next time you might not just break stuff and survive..
>


ROFL!!!

I'll give a rough translation for that :-)

"Dave, you're an unco."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Unco



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Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

In article >,
PeterL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in
> news >
> > In article >,
> > "Bob Twitilliger" > ****ed and moaned and
> cried:
> >
> >> ViLco wrote:
> >>
> >> > What about sticking with plain riding and avoid jumping? It sure
> >> > would be safer and you could still be riding. Best wishes for your
> >> > recovery.
> >>
> >> That was my first thought also. Dave, you shouldn't have to give up
> >> riding COMPLETELY if you love it that much. Lin goes horseback riding
> >> with her niece and grandchildren every chance she gets, but she
> >> obviously doesn't take a five-year-old onto a steeplechase course!
> >>
> >> Also, Peter needs to have a couple chutes fail, doesn't he?
> >>
> >> Bob
> >
> > No comment...
>
>
>
> You can let 'Boogle Bob' know that I have indeed had more than a couple of
> chutes fail, but I survived them all.

I considered that to be private information. I figured it was up to you
to tell him if you wanted him to know. :-) You are lucky to be alive!

>
> It comes down to training, and reactions. Something the OP has lost at 60
> years of age.

But a little empathy would be nice... Who was that actor that became a
quadriplegic after being thrown from a horse while playing polo?
He was lucky to only have broken a rib, but still!

I like you Peter, but sometimes you shock me a bit by being so callous.
:-(
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In article >,
PeterL > wrote:

> Fresh cabbage, cut into chunks, sauteed in a saucepan with lots of butter
> and curry powder so that you still have some crunch left in the
> cabbage........ YUM!!!
>
> I used to have a Dutch girlfriend, whose Mum taught me to have it that
> way.... and the Dutch *are* related to the Boers :-)

I've only recently started adding butter to cabbage. It is a whole new
dimension! It's wonderful and was quite a surprise. ;-d
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In article >,
PeterL > wrote:

> Omelet > wrote in
> news >
> > In article >,
> > "Boogle Bob" > wrote:
> >
> >> ChattyCathy wrote:
> >>
> >> >> There's nothing better than a cubed shoulder of horse slow braised
> >> >> with some red wine and veges........ ObFood.
> >> >
> >> > You can have my share.
> >>
> >> While I disagree with "there's nothing better," I will say that horse
> >> meat is some very good stuff. I know many people whose upbringing makes
> >> them opposed to it, but I don't think eating horse is any more immoral
> >> than eating pork.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >
> > How about cat or dog?
>
>
>
> It's a protein source in some countries...... same as whale meat.
>
> And whilst in those countries, you have to do as the locals do :-)
>
>
> Fortunately, we have an abundance of cows in Oz ;-)

I'm surprised y'all don't farm and export more natives, such as
kangaroos! They are your version of white tail deer that tend to
overpopulate rural areas around here. <g>
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> I'm surprised y'all don't farm and export more natives, such as
> kangaroos!

They did, mixed in with ground beef 'til they got caught out!
Graham

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> PeterL > wrote:
>
>> Omelet > wrote in
>> news >>

<Trimmed for just adding informational point.>
>
>> It comes down to training, and reactions. Something the OP has lost at 60
>> years of age.
>
> But a little empathy would be nice... Who was that actor that became a
> quadriplegic after being thrown from a horse while playing polo?
> He was lucky to only have broken a rib, but still!
>
> I like you Peter, but sometimes you shock me a bit by being so callous.
> :-(

Christopher Reeve aka - Superman

Bob

Omelet said...

> In article >,
> PeterL > wrote:
>
>> Omelet > wrote in
>> news >>
>> > In article >,
>> > "Boogle Bob" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> ChattyCathy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> There's nothing better than a cubed shoulder of horse slow braised
>> >> >> with some red wine and veges........ ObFood.
>> >> >
>> >> > You can have my share.
>> >>
>> >> While I disagree with "there's nothing better," I will say that horse
>> >> meat is some very good stuff. I know many people whose upbringing
makes
>> >> them opposed to it, but I don't think eating horse is any more
immoral
>> >> than eating pork.
>> >>
>> >> Bob
>> >
>> > How about cat or dog?
>>
>>
>>
>> It's a protein source in some countries...... same as whale meat.
>>
>> And whilst in those countries, you have to do as the locals do :-)
>>
>>
>> Fortunately, we have an abundance of cows in Oz ;-)
>
> I'm surprised y'all don't farm and export more natives, such as
> kangaroos! They are your version of white tail deer that tend to
> overpopulate rural areas around here. <g>


In Oz if you say "please pass the 'dead horse'" they'll pass you the
ketchup.

I don't know if that's true everywhere down under.

Andy
--
I'm no longer a danger to society.

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>

> I have friends who have gone on to really hurt themselves on horses in
> their 60s.


They should try younger, more agile horses.

Bob Muncie wrote:
> Omelet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> PeterL > wrote:
>>
>>> Omelet > wrote in
>>> news
>
> <Trimmed for just adding informational point.>
>>
>>> It comes down to training, and reactions. Something the OP has lost
>>> at 60 years of age.
>>


Sixty isn't exactly ancient, dude! My husband's maiden aunt ran an
Alaska marathon when she was in her late 60s and she used to x-country
ski miles to work at the university because it was too much trouble to
install the battery back into her car in the morning in very cold
weather. She retired from Alaska to Maine where she split and stacked
5 cords of wood every winter till she died at 84.

My late mother-in-law came to visit from CT and skied with us at
Keystone when she was 72. She died 2 months short of her 90th birthday.
Her second husband still tended a large vegetable garden at 90. Lived
to 94. At seventy they still called themselves "middle aged".

gloria p

Gloria P wrote:
> Bob Muncie wrote:
>> Omelet wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> PeterL > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Omelet > wrote in
>>>> news
>>
>> <Trimmed for just adding informational point.>
>>>
>>>> It comes down to training, and reactions. Something the OP has lost
>>>> at 60 years of age.
>>>
>
>
> Sixty isn't exactly ancient, dude! My husband's maiden aunt ran an
> Alaska marathon when she was in her late 60s and she used to x-country
> ski miles to work at the university because it was too much trouble to
> install the battery back into her car in the morning in very cold
> weather. She retired from Alaska to Maine where she split and stacked
> 5 cords of wood every winter till she died at 84.
>
> My late mother-in-law came to visit from CT and skied with us at
> Keystone when she was 72. She died 2 months short of her 90th birthday.
> Her second husband still tended a large vegetable garden at 90. Lived
> to 94. At seventy they still called themselves "middle aged".
>
> gloria p

Gloria - I did not post that part... only added the Christopher Reeve line.

Bob

On Sep 3, 3:04*am, Omelet > wrote:
> In article > ,
> *Dave Smith > wrote:
>
> > Omelet wrote:
>
> > > I'm so sorry Dave. :-(
> > > It's hard to give up something you love.
> > > Is there any way you can wear protective clothing of some sort?
>
> > > I've never broken a bone yet, but I have hurt myself a few times doing
> > > things I enjoy, but I keep doing them anyway...
>
> > I never broke a bone until I was 52 and got thrown over a jump. That was
> > a collar bone and it was 6 years ago. I have to say that as painful as
> > this is when I move the wrong way, it doesn't hurt anywhere near as much
> > as the collar bone did.
>
> I can understand. *I fell and sprained my right rotator cuff not too
> long ago and it's causing me a lot of pain issues, altho' Airrosti is
> helping it to heal a lot faster than it normally would.

Ouch, I did that a couple of years ago when surfing. Took about 8
months to get full mobility back. For the first couple of weeks I
could not raise my upper arm at all. Shaking hands with business
associates was very odd, I just sort of stuck my lower arm straight
out from the waist!

>
> The clavicle being part of the shoulder girdle, I can bet it hurt one
> HELL of a lot! *I'm betting you had trouble sleeping...

I broke my collar bone as a youngster. Husband broke his last year. It
is one of those things that move with just about every movement you
make so it is very painful. Husband has only just regained full
shoulder mobility, after about 12 months.

JB

> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
> --Steve Rothstein
>
>
> Subscribe:

Omelet > wrote:

> (Steve Pope) wrote:

>> Omelet > wrote:

>>>I can understand. I fell and sprained my right rotator cuff not too
>>>long ago and it's causing me a lot of pain issues, altho' Airrosti is
>>>helping it to heal a lot faster than it normally would.

>> So in your experience, how does Airrosti differ from conventional
>> physical therapy?

>Works faster. The hands on therapy speeds things up for soft tissue
>injury, and the practitioners have the training to help you learn the
>exercises you need to know and do to help yourself.

>Dr. Perry helped me with both newer and very much older leg injuries
>sustained from a fall in 2008 and being clipped by a pickup truck while
>walking back to the student parking lot when I was 23. (I'm 47) He also
>taught me a series of leg exercises I'd never done before and I followed
>all of his advice.

>I can now move better than I've been able to in years.

>As for the rotator cuff injury, it's not quite ok just yet, but last
>time I hurt one, (the left, this is now the right), it took over a year
>to get back to even a semblance of normal and never really has been
>right. I've asked him for help with that one too.

>The right one, after less than two months, is already far advanced over
>what I experienced last time.

>> I'm facing a slow-healing sprain myself the past several weeks.

>Are you in Texas or Oklahoma? That is currently the only two areas they
>have providers in.

Nope, California. Do they do proximal interphalangeal joint injuries?
I am under the care of a CHT (Certified Hand Therapist) and she
is very good, but not as hands on as a DC would be, much less
an Airrosti. But she has specified a ton of exercises.

Steve

Bob Terwilliger wrote:

>
> What if it *wasn't* horse meat? Horse tastes very much like beef, only
> a bit sweeter and chewier. I'm not saying you should seek it out, but
> you might not have actually eaten horse meat. If you happen to run
> across something that you *know* is horse meat, then it might be
> worthwhile to give it a try.

No way of proving that it was, I suppose, but I didn't like it -
whatever it was. However, Dad said it "tasted like" horse meat and I
knew he'd eaten it before... Dunno. It's just something that I'm not
keen to try. Oh well, look at it this way - more for you ;-)
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

In article >,
ChattyCathy > wrote:

> That's why I'm skeered of horses and just admire them from afar.

I was forced to ride the nags for two summers before I was twelve to
build character. Motorcycles have a kill switch, but firing a 45 into a
horse's skull at 25 mph would still mean I'd be seriously injured or
become dead. I had one take off downhill with my baby butt in the
saddle. Trots suck. Gallops are better. That run toward the stable was
the smoothest ride I ever had on a horse. Real Nevada wranglers saved
me.
I'm with you.

leo

"PeterL" > wrote in message
...
>
Your memory is short. We have been here before and you shut up then! Let us
not embarrass you again. I am sure there are those here who remember the
last time.

I have no intention of wasting any more of my time on you.

Dave Smith wrote:
> Dang. I look forward to this vacation all year long because there is
> canoing, sailing, hiking and, best of all, horse back riding. I take
> riding lessons all year so that I can go on the advanced ride, galloping
> through the woods and the jumping trails. There are a lot of old friends
> who also attend regularly.
>
> We stopped on the way and spent the night with my wife's sister and her
> family. There are three hours away now and we don't see them very often.
> It was just a short hop over to the camp. We got ourselves settled in
> and went for a swim in the lake while the sun was still out. Then the
> rain came. Riding was still on for the morning, but because of the rain
> we had a jumping class in the arena instead of a trail ride.
>
> I had a wonderful horse, I thought. She was very responsive. A little
> nudge with the heels and she immediately started walking. Another slight
> squeeze and she started to trot. Slide one leg back a little ans she
> immediately went into a nice canter. The first time we went over the
> canter poles she tried to go to the left, but I managed to get her over
> toward the centre, and the next time around she went right up the
> centre. We tried trotting to a single small jump and there was no
> problem at all. Then we cantered the jump and raised it. No problems.
>
> Then the instructor added a second jump. She flew over the first one,
> but as we approached the second one she went left, then right and then a
> sharp left. Off I flew, slamming into the dirt and hitting with my
> face, chest and hip. I got up spitting out a mouthful of dirt. It hurt.
> That's usually a good sign, because you don't usually feel bad injuries
> right away.
>
> I hobbled back to my cabin, almost half a mile away, and the more I
> walked the more sore my hip got. Later in the evening my hip problem
> cleared up and walking was easier, but my ribs started bothering more.
> Sleep was impossible. In the morning we decided to pack up and go home.
> I stopped at the local hospital on the way and the doctor confirmed what
> I suspected... a fractured rib.
>
> So now I am sitting at home, taking it easy and taking pain killers,
> extra strength Tylenol and Ibuprophen and Ibuprophen and Tylenol 3 to
> sleep.
>
> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as there
> were no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I am
> getting close to 60.
> :-(

Oh, boo! That's really unfortunate.

--
Jean B.

On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:44:45 +0000, PeterL wrote:

> ChattyCathy > wrote in news:2Uxnm.18136$Y83.90
> @newsfe21.iad:
>
>> PeterL wrote:
>>
>> I'd hardly call it whining.
>
> C'mon!!! It was a "give me sympathy because I've been stupid" post!!
>
>
> And he had everyone falling all over themselves ooooooing and ahhhhing.

One thing I've noticed about this group is that if somebody gets ill
or has an accident and hurts themselves, 99% of the other posters are
sympathetic (even if they usually fight like cat and dog with the injured
party otherwise). Didn't your Mom ever tell you it's generally not good
form to 'kick somebody when they're down'? Oh well, nevermind.

>>
>>> But having said that........ I like horses.
>>>
>>> There's nothing better than a cubed shoulder of horse slow braised
>>> with some red wine and veges........ ObFood.
>>
>> You can have my share.
>
>
> Don't knock it till you try it!! It's very lean meat.
>
> It'd make nice biltong too :-)

I'll still pass thanks, which is my prerogative, surely?

BTW, IMHO, the best beef biltong has a strip of fat on it. I like the fat
too (sosueme).

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
news
> On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:44:45 +0000, PeterL wrote:
>
>> ChattyCathy > wrote in news:2Uxnm.18136$Y83.90
>> @newsfe21.iad:
>>
>>> PeterL wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd hardly call it whining.
>>
>> C'mon!!! It was a "give me sympathy because I've been stupid" post!!
>>
>>
>> And he had everyone falling all over themselves ooooooing and ahhhhing.
>
> One thing I've noticed about this group is that if somebody gets ill
> or has an accident and hurts themselves, 99% of the other posters are
> sympathetic (even if they usually fight like cat and dog with the injured
> party otherwise). Didn't your Mom ever tell you it's generally not good
> form to 'kick somebody when they're down'? Oh well, nevermind.

There's "raised by wolves" and then there's Peter Lucas, raised by nasty
halfwit wolves.