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Dang. I look forward to this vacation all year long because there is
canoing, sailing, hiking and, best of all, horse back riding. I take
riding lessons all year so that I can go on the advanced ride, galloping
through the woods and the jumping trails. There are a lot of old friends
who also attend regularly.

We stopped on the way and spent the night with my wife's sister and her
family. There are three hours away now and we don't see them very often.
It was just a short hop over to the camp. We got ourselves settled in
and went for a swim in the lake while the sun was still out. Then the
rain came. Riding was still on for the morning, but because of the rain
we had a jumping class in the arena instead of a trail ride.

I had a wonderful horse, I thought. She was very responsive. A little
nudge with the heels and she immediately started walking. Another slight
squeeze and she started to trot. Slide one leg back a little ans she
immediately went into a nice canter. The first time we went over the
canter poles she tried to go to the left, but I managed to get her over
toward the centre, and the next time around she went right up the
centre. We tried trotting to a single small jump and there was no
problem at all. Then we cantered the jump and raised it. No problems.

Then the instructor added a second jump. She flew over the first one,
but as we approached the second one she went left, then right and then a
sharp left. Off I flew, slamming into the dirt and hitting with my
face, chest and hip. I got up spitting out a mouthful of dirt. It hurt.
That's usually a good sign, because you don't usually feel bad injuries
right away.

I hobbled back to my cabin, almost half a mile away, and the more I
walked the more sore my hip got. Later in the evening my hip problem
cleared up and walking was easier, but my ribs started bothering more.
Sleep was impossible. In the morning we decided to pack up and go home.
I stopped at the local hospital on the way and the doctor confirmed what
I suspected... a fractured rib.

So now I am sitting at home, taking it easy and taking pain killers,
extra strength Tylenol and Ibuprophen and Ibuprophen and Tylenol 3 to
sleep.

The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as there
were no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I am
getting close to 60.
:-(
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"Dave Smith" > wrote
> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons when
> that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as there were
> no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I am getting close
> to 60.
> :-(


It would help if you had your own horse or at least one to ride that you
know well. But really, you'd be wise to quit, hard as it might be. I have
friends who have gone on to really hurt themselves on horses in their 60s.


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Dave Smith said...

> Dang. I look forward to this vacation all year long because there is
> canoing, sailing, hiking and, best of all, horse back riding. I take
> riding lessons all year so that I can go on the advanced ride, galloping
> through the woods and the jumping trails. There are a lot of old friends
> who also attend regularly.
>
> We stopped on the way and spent the night with my wife's sister and her
> family. There are three hours away now and we don't see them very often.
> It was just a short hop over to the camp. We got ourselves settled in
> and went for a swim in the lake while the sun was still out. Then the
> rain came. Riding was still on for the morning, but because of the rain
> we had a jumping class in the arena instead of a trail ride.
>
> I had a wonderful horse, I thought. She was very responsive. A little
> nudge with the heels and she immediately started walking. Another slight
> squeeze and she started to trot. Slide one leg back a little ans she
> immediately went into a nice canter. The first time we went over the
> canter poles she tried to go to the left, but I managed to get her over
> toward the centre, and the next time around she went right up the
> centre. We tried trotting to a single small jump and there was no
> problem at all. Then we cantered the jump and raised it. No problems.
>
> Then the instructor added a second jump. She flew over the first one,
> but as we approached the second one she went left, then right and then a
> sharp left. Off I flew, slamming into the dirt and hitting with my
> face, chest and hip. I got up spitting out a mouthful of dirt. It hurt.
> That's usually a good sign, because you don't usually feel bad injuries
> right away.
>
> I hobbled back to my cabin, almost half a mile away, and the more I
> walked the more sore my hip got. Later in the evening my hip problem
> cleared up and walking was easier, but my ribs started bothering more.
> Sleep was impossible. In the morning we decided to pack up and go home.
> I stopped at the local hospital on the way and the doctor confirmed what
> I suspected... a fractured rib.
>
> So now I am sitting at home, taking it easy and taking pain killers,
> extra strength Tylenol and Ibuprophen and Ibuprophen and Tylenol 3 to
> sleep.
>
> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as there
> were no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I am
> getting close to 60.
>:-(



Geez, that sucks! At lease you live to talk about it!

At YMCA camp I was 7-yo, a horse reared me off it, I landed on the ground.
It was just a roped around and around a pole, coral exercise. Don't know
what I did or didn't do or why it did what it did but I've never gone near
a horse ever since.

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> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons when
> that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as there were
> no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I am getting close
> to 60.
> :-(


Oh dear Time for less active holidays? You could always chase the fat
one around with your horse whip. I suspect she can't run too fast))

Awww I do sympathise, really.



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Andy wrote:
>
>
>> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
>> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
>> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as there
>> were no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I am
>> getting close to 60.
>> :-(

>
>
> Geez, that sucks! At lease you live to talk about it!
>
> At YMCA camp I was 7-yo, a horse reared me off it, I landed on the ground.
> It was just a roped around and around a pole, coral exercise. Don't know
> what I did or didn't do or why it did what it did but I've never gone near
> a horse ever since.



I used to ride once every year or two and fell off so often that I
assumed that was part of the deal. I have been taking lessons for the
last 6 years and had not fallen for more than two years. Only got hurt a
few times falling, but broken collar bone and rib are painful enough to
make me reconsider equestrian jumping at my age.



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> Dang. I look forward to this vacation all year long because there is
> canoing, sailing, hiking and, best of all, horse back riding. I take
> riding lessons all year so that I can go on the advanced ride,


(snip)
>
> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as there
> were no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I am
> getting close to 60.
>:-(
>




You've been taking lessons for 6 years or more, you took lessons all year
long for the past 12 months, and you *still* fell off the damn horse??!!


You're absolutely useless at horse riding so it's high time you took up
another hobby. Please don't even consider skydiving.


May I suggest crocheting, or knitting??


No sympathy for the busted rib, dude, you got what you deserved for
thinking that you can do something you can't.
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Dave Smith said...

> Andy wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
>>> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
>>> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as
>>> there were no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I
>>> am getting close to 60.
>>> :-(

>>
>>
>> Geez, that sucks! At lease you live to talk about it!
>>
>> At YMCA camp I was 7-yo, a horse reared me off it, I landed on the
>> ground. It was just a roped around and around a pole, coral exercise.
>> Don't know what I did or didn't do or why it did what it did but I've
>> never gone near a horse ever since.

>
>
> I used to ride once every year or two and fell off so often that I
> assumed that was part of the deal. I have been taking lessons for the
> last 6 years and had not fallen for more than two years. Only got hurt a
> few times falling, but broken collar bone and rib are painful enough to
> make me reconsider equestrian jumping at my age.



Heck, Dave, you've been in the saddle that long and you like it that much,
now is no time to quit!

It seems you have falling off a horse down pat and still get back on! I
quit after once.

Best,

Andy
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Dave Smith wrote:

> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as
> there were no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I
> am getting close to 60.
> :-(


It would be sad, Dave. What about sticking with plain riding and avoid
jumping? It sure would be safer and you could still be riding.
Best wishes for your recovery.
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> Dave Smith > wrote in news:4a9e7875$0$25031
> :
>
>> Dang. I look forward to this vacation all year long because there is
>> canoing, sailing, hiking and, best of all, horse back riding. I take
>> riding lessons all year so that I can go on the advanced ride,

>
> (snip)
>>
>> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
>> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
>> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as there
>> were no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I am
>> getting close to 60.
>>:-(
>>

>
>
>
> You've been taking lessons for 6 years or more, you took lessons all year
> long for the past 12 months, and you *still* fell off the damn horse??!!
>
>
> You're absolutely useless at horse riding so it's high time you took up
> another hobby. Please don't even consider skydiving.
>
>
> May I suggest crocheting, or knitting??
>
>
> No sympathy for the busted rib, dude, you got what you deserved for
> thinking that you can do something you can't.


Pull yer head in, you prick!


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On Sep 2, 9:21*am, Dave Smith > wrote:
> Andy wrote:
>
> >> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
> >> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
> >> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as there
> >> were no more injuries. *Now I have broken a second bone, and I am
> >> getting close to 60.
> >> :-(

>
> > Geez, that sucks! At lease you live to talk about it!

>
> > At YMCA camp I was 7-yo, a horse reared me off it, I landed on the ground.
> > It was just a roped around and around a pole, coral exercise. Don't know
> > what I did or didn't do or why it did what it did but I've never gone near
> > a horse ever since.


Maybe it was your personality.
>
> I used to ride once every year or two and fell off so often that I
> assumed that was part of the deal. I have been taking lessons for the
> last 6 years and had not fallen for more than two years. Only got hurt a
> few times falling, but broken collar bone and rib are painful enough to
> make me reconsider equestrian jumping at my age.


Really. You don't have to give up riding, just quit putting obstacles
in the horse's way.

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ViLco wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
>> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
>> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as
>> there were no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I
>> am getting close to 60.
>> :-(

>
> It would be sad, Dave. What about sticking with plain riding and avoid
> jumping? It sure would be safer and you could still be riding.
> Best wishes for your recovery.



I suppose that I could try dressage, which I appreciate is a lot of work
and discipline, but which IMO is about as exciting as watching paint
dry. Ideally, I would like to find a place with trail rides that involve
trotting and cantering, but there aren't any places I know of that do that.

One idea is to get my own horse and board it, but board is expensive.
However, if I can find a nice calm horse that can be used for the horse
therapy program they will give me free board. The money I have been
paying for lessons could go toward that. I will have to talk to them
about that.

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Dave Smith wrote:

> Dang. I look forward to this vacation all year long because there is
> canoing, sailing, hiking and, best of all, horse back riding.


<snipped for space>

> So now I am sitting at home, taking it easy and taking pain killers,
> extra strength Tylenol and Ibuprophen and Ibuprophen and Tylenol 3 to
> sleep.
>
> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as
> there
> were no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I am
> getting close to 60.
> :-(


Sorry sorry to hear this, Dave. Hope you heal up soon.
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> "PeterL2" > wrote in message
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>> Dave Smith > wrote in news:4a9e7875$0$25031
>> :
>>
>>> Dang. I look forward to this vacation all year long because there is
>>> canoing, sailing, hiking and, best of all, horse back riding. I take
>>> riding lessons all year so that I can go on the advanced ride,

>>
>> (snip)
>>>
>>> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
>>> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
>>> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as

there
>>> were no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I am
>>> getting close to 60.
>>>:-(
>>>

>>
>>
>>
>> You've been taking lessons for 6 years or more, you took lessons all

year
>> long for the past 12 months, and you *still* fell off the damn

horse??!!
>>
>>
>> You're absolutely useless at horse riding so it's high time you took up
>> another hobby. Please don't even consider skydiving.
>>
>>
>> May I suggest crocheting, or knitting??
>>
>>
>> No sympathy for the busted rib, dude, you got what you deserved for
>> thinking that you can do something you can't.

>
> Pull yer head in, you prick!
>
>



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>
> The truth always hurts.


No. The truth SOMETIMES hurts.
>
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On Sep 2, 9:59*am, Dave Smith > wrote:
> Dang. I look forward to this vacation all year long because there is
> canoing, sailing, hiking and, best of all, horse back riding. I take
> riding lessons all year so that I can go on the advanced ride, galloping
> through the woods and the jumping trails. There are a lot of old friends
> who also attend regularly.
>
> We stopped on the way and spent the night with my wife's sister and her
> family. There are three hours away now and we don't see them very often.
> It was just a short hop over to the camp. We got ourselves settled in
> and went for a swim in the lake while the sun was still out. Then the
> rain came. Riding was still on for the morning, but because of the rain
> we had a jumping class in the arena instead of a trail ride.
>
> I had a wonderful horse, I thought. She was very responsive. A little
> nudge with the heels and she immediately started walking. Another slight
> squeeze and she started to trot. Slide one leg back a little ans she
> immediately went into a nice canter. The first time we went over the
> canter poles she tried to go to the left, but I managed to get her over
> toward the centre, and the next time around she went right up the
> centre. *We tried trotting to a single small jump and there was no
> problem at all. Then we cantered the jump and raised it. No problems.
>
> Then the instructor added a second jump. She flew over the first one,
> but as we approached the second one she went left, then right and then a
> sharp left. *Off I flew, slamming into the dirt and hitting with my
> face, chest and hip. *I got up spitting out a mouthful of dirt. It hurt..
> * That's usually a good sign, because you don't usually feel bad injuries
> right away.
>
> I hobbled back to my cabin, almost half a mile away, and the more I
> walked the more sore my hip got. Later in the evening my hip problem
> cleared up and walking was easier, but my ribs started bothering more.
> Sleep was impossible. In the morning we decided to pack up and go home.
> I stopped at the local hospital on the way and the doctor confirmed what
> I suspected... a fractured rib.
>
> So now I am sitting at home, taking it easy and taking pain killers,
> extra strength Tylenol and Ibuprophen and Ibuprophen and Tylenol 3 to
> sleep.
>
> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as there
> were no more injuries. *Now I have broken a second bone, and I am
> getting close to 60.
> :-(


Sorry to hear of this mishap. Glad it wasn't worse. Advise you to
forget jumping. We ALL have to make adjustments as we age - ya ain't
alone.

Rest easy - maybe THIS is the time to read "War and Peace".



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> You've been taking lessons for 6 years or more, you took lessons all
> year long for the past 12 months, and you *still* fell off the damn
> horse??!!
>
> You're absolutely useless at horse riding so it's high time you took
> up
> another hobby. Please don't even consider skydiving.
>
> May I suggest crocheting, or knitting??
>
> No sympathy for the busted rib, dude, you got what you deserved for
> thinking that you can do something you can't.


IMHO, you're being way too harsh here Peter. I've seen professional
show-jumping riders get thrown from a horse. If something spooks a
horse, they can and do panic (or sometimes they just refuse to jump at
the last minute and slam on brakes - and there goes the rider). And no
matter how much experience the rider has - when that sort of thing
happens sometimes they get thrown...

That's why I'm skeered of horses and just admire them from afar.
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ViLco wrote:

> What about sticking with plain riding and avoid jumping? It sure would be
> safer and you could still be riding. Best wishes for your recovery.


That was my first thought also. Dave, you shouldn't have to give up riding
COMPLETELY if you love it that much. Lin goes horseback riding with her
niece and grandchildren every chance she gets, but she obviously doesn't
take a five-year-old onto a steeplechase course!

Also, Peter needs to have a couple chutes fail, doesn't he?

Bob



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> PeterL2 wrote:
>>
>> You've been taking lessons for 6 years or more, you took lessons all
>> year long for the past 12 months, and you *still* fell off the damn
>> horse??!!
>>
>> You're absolutely useless at horse riding so it's high time you took
>> up
>> another hobby. Please don't even consider skydiving.
>>
>> May I suggest crocheting, or knitting??
>>
>> No sympathy for the busted rib, dude, you got what you deserved for
>> thinking that you can do something you can't.

>
> IMHO, you're being way too harsh here Peter.




You're perfectly entitled to your opinion, as am I.

I just regard him as a 60yo 'slow learner'.


> I've seen professional
> show-jumping riders get thrown from a horse. If something spooks a
> horse, they can and do panic (or sometimes they just refuse to jump at
> the last minute and slam on brakes - and there goes the rider).



I've seen it happen too. But then, those riders didn't come onto a food/
cooking group and whine about it.


>And no
> matter how much experience the rider has - when that sort of thing
> happens sometimes they get thrown...



Yes, I have even seen Olympic competitors get thrown. But then, they are
usually in the mid-late 20's/early 30's.

As a 60yo, he should have more bloody sense.

Don't get me wrong.......... if the guy is going to get out there and do
something like that, more power to him!! But don't come whinging and whining
in here expecting sympathy from everyone if you get hurt doing it.

I've been skydiving since I was 15 years old. I'm 53 now, and with the
injuries that I'm carrying, I have made the decision that my skydiving days
are almost over.
You don't see me in here ****ing and moaning about it.

You gotta know when to hold 'em, and you gotta know when to fold 'em.


>
> That's why I'm skeered of horses and just admire them from afar.



I couldn't give a rats ass about horses. I used to go out in the North West
of Queensland in the early 80's and shoot shitloads of brumbies, which are
nothing more than pests.

Then there was the stupid bloody woman who decided to bring her 4 legged glue
pot onto a dropzone because she thought it would be 'cute' for everyone to
see her nag, and the bloody thing put a $500 dent in my car because it got
spooked when I landed........ *on* the dropzone, near my car.



But having said that........ I like horses.

There's nothing better than a cubed shoulder of horse slow braised with some
red wine and veges........ ObFood.

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"PeterL" > wrote in message
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> Don't get me wrong.......... if the guy is going to get out there and do
> something like that, more power to him!! But don't come whinging and
> whining
> in here expecting sympathy from everyone if you get hurt doing it.
>
> I've been skydiving since I was 15 years old. I'm 53 now, and with the
> injuries that I'm carrying, I have made the decision that my skydiving
> days
> are almost over.
> You don't see me in here ****ing and moaning about it.


Yes we have been hearing all about your war years We have been here
before

Leave him alone. I believe far more of what he says that anything you say!


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Dave Smith wrote:


> I hobbled back to my cabin, almost half a mile away, and the more I
> walked the more sore my hip got. Later in the evening my hip problem
> cleared up and walking was easier, but my ribs started bothering more.
> Sleep was impossible. In the morning we decided to pack up and go home.
> I stopped at the local hospital on the way and the doctor confirmed what
> I suspected... a fractured rib.
>
> So now I am sitting at home, taking it easy and taking pain killers,
> extra strength Tylenol and Ibuprophen and Ibuprophen and Tylenol 3 to
> sleep.
>
> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as there
> were no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I am
> getting close to 60.
> :-(


Dave,

My sympathies to you. I did the same to my ribs when I got skewered
by a surf board. It will take some time to heal. Don't rush it,
listen to your body, etc. Going back to a full schedule too soon
might keep you off your exercise routine even longer.

As to more riding, I don't believe it's a clear cut answer. If it's
something that you really need to do and really enjoy then it's
worth some amount of risk. Man/Woman does not live by bread alone
and living a full, satifying life is a trade off which often involves
taking on risk.

Is there a way you can somehow lower the risk but still participate?
That would be my approach. Don't know if that means finding a safer
horse or a safer course or a slower pace or what.

If it were me I would not quit altogether but only you can make that
decision.

Be well.



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> I've seen it happen too. But then, those riders didn't come onto a
> food/ cooking group and whine about it.


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> You gotta know when to hold 'em, and you gotta know when to fold 'em.
>


I'd hardly call it whining. And if you read the OP he did state that he
was considering giving up riding lessons.

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> But having said that........ I like horses.
>
> There's nothing better than a cubed shoulder of horse slow braised
> with some red wine and veges........ ObFood.


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> I'd hardly call it whining. And if you read the OP he did state that he
> was considering giving up riding lessons.


It's a good idea. My brother broke his same collar bone (clavicle)
twice racing motocross. Doc said if you break it again, I may not be
able to mend it at all, next time. That bone is not a thick heavy
bone like a leg bone (tibia), but flat and thin (relatively). Maybe
they have better medical options, now. Ask one of our nurses.

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> One idea is to get my own horse and board it, but board is expensive.
> However, if I can find a nice calm horse that can be used for the horse
> therapy program they will give me free board. The money I have been
> paying for lessons could go toward that. I will have to talk to them
> about that.
>


My daughter's horse fell on her this past March and I made her go to the
ER to make sure she hadn't ruptured her liver or spleen. Her x-rays
were appalling. Her ribs and sternum looked like they'd been overlaid
with spider webs - evidence of old fractures from all the times she'd
been thrown, kicked and stomped.

Have your stable help you find an appropriate horse. Fugly Horse of the
Day is also an excellent resource for advice on chosing an appropriate
mount.

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Dave Smith > wrote:

> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as there
> were no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I am
> getting close to 60.
> :-(


I'm so sorry Dave. :-(
It's hard to give up something you love.
Is there any way you can wear protective clothing of some sort?

I've never broken a bone yet, but I have hurt myself a few times doing
things I enjoy, but I keep doing them anyway...
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"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> ViLco wrote:
>
> > What about sticking with plain riding and avoid jumping? It sure would be
> > safer and you could still be riding. Best wishes for your recovery.

>
> That was my first thought also. Dave, you shouldn't have to give up riding
> COMPLETELY if you love it that much. Lin goes horseback riding with her
> niece and grandchildren every chance she gets, but she obviously doesn't
> take a five-year-old onto a steeplechase course!
>
> Also, Peter needs to have a couple chutes fail, doesn't he?
>
> Bob


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> Dang. I look forward to this vacation all year long because there is
> canoing, sailing, hiking and, best of all, horse back riding. I take
> riding lessons all year so that I can go on the advanced ride, galloping
> through the woods and the jumping trails. There are a lot of old friends
> who also attend regularly.
>
> We stopped on the way and spent the night with my wife's sister and her
> family. There are three hours away now and we don't see them very often.
> It was just a short hop over to the camp. We got ourselves settled in
> and went for a swim in the lake while the sun was still out. Then the
> rain came. Riding was still on for the morning, but because of the rain
> we had a jumping class in the arena instead of a trail ride.
>
> I had a wonderful horse, I thought. She was very responsive. A little
> nudge with the heels and she immediately started walking. Another slight
> squeeze and she started to trot. Slide one leg back a little ans she
> immediately went into a nice canter. The first time we went over the
> canter poles she tried to go to the left, but I managed to get her over
> toward the centre, and the next time around she went right up the
> centre. We tried trotting to a single small jump and there was no
> problem at all. Then we cantered the jump and raised it. No problems.
>
> Then the instructor added a second jump. She flew over the first one,
> but as we approached the second one she went left, then right and then a
> sharp left. Off I flew, slamming into the dirt and hitting with my
> face, chest and hip. I got up spitting out a mouthful of dirt. It hurt.
> That's usually a good sign, because you don't usually feel bad injuries
> right away.
>
> I hobbled back to my cabin, almost half a mile away, and the more I
> walked the more sore my hip got. Later in the evening my hip problem
> cleared up and walking was easier, but my ribs started bothering more.
> Sleep was impossible. In the morning we decided to pack up and go home.
> I stopped at the local hospital on the way and the doctor confirmed what
> I suspected... a fractured rib.
>
> So now I am sitting at home, taking it easy and taking pain killers,
> extra strength Tylenol and Ibuprophen and Ibuprophen and Tylenol 3 to
> sleep.
>
> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as there
> were no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I am
> getting close to 60.
> :-(


Well bummer and more! Please don't let a broken rib keep you from
enjoying what you like, er, after it heals that is When walking
down/up the street, anyone could've just as easily tripped on a curb and
done the same thing, perhaps? I wish you good luck and a speedy
recovery.

Sky, who's had quite a few broken bones over the years

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>> One idea is to get my own horse and board it, but board is expensive.
>> However, if I can find a nice calm horse that can be used for the
>> horse therapy program they will give me free board. The money I have
>> been paying for lessons could go toward that. I will have to talk to
>> them about that.
>>

>
> My daughter's horse fell on her this past March and I made her go to the
> ER to make sure she hadn't ruptured her liver or spleen. Her x-rays
> were appalling. Her ribs and sternum looked like they'd been overlaid
> with spider webs - evidence of old fractures from all the times she'd
> been thrown, kicked and stomped.
>
> Have your stable help you find an appropriate horse. Fugly Horse of the
> Day is also an excellent resource for advice on chosing an appropriate
> mount.


The one that I usually ride in my lessons is a schoolie.... calm and
reliable, but lazy. My instructor had said that a bigger, faster horse
means a bigger and faster fall.

I talked to the barn owner about an hour ago and told her I won't be
there for at least a month and that I am going to have to think about
continuing the jumping lessons. It's a lot of fun when things are going
right, but can be a lot of pain when things go wrong. Meanwhile, I am
going to look for some place where I can do some sort of trail riding
with speed, not just guided walking tours.
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>
> I'm so sorry Dave. :-(
> It's hard to give up something you love.
> Is there any way you can wear protective clothing of some sort?
>
> I've never broken a bone yet, but I have hurt myself a few times doing
> things I enjoy, but I keep doing them anyway...


I never broke a bone until I was 52 and got thrown over a jump. That was
a collar bone and it was 6 years ago. I have to say that as painful as
this is when I move the wrong way, it doesn't hurt anywhere near as much
as the collar bone did.
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Dave Smith > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm so sorry Dave. :-(
> > It's hard to give up something you love.
> > Is there any way you can wear protective clothing of some sort?
> >
> > I've never broken a bone yet, but I have hurt myself a few times doing
> > things I enjoy, but I keep doing them anyway...

>
> I never broke a bone until I was 52 and got thrown over a jump. That was
> a collar bone and it was 6 years ago. I have to say that as painful as
> this is when I move the wrong way, it doesn't hurt anywhere near as much
> as the collar bone did.


I can understand. I fell and sprained my right rotator cuff not too
long ago and it's causing me a lot of pain issues, altho' Airrosti is
helping it to heal a lot faster than it normally would.

The clavicle being part of the shoulder girdle, I can bet it hurt one
HELL of a lot! I'm betting you had trouble sleeping...
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> I never broke a bone until I was 52 and got thrown over a jump.


One of the reasons I quit riding a motorcycle full time. My likewise
ex-motorcycling buddy said it best. "I don't bounce worth a damn,
anymore."

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>> There's nothing better than a cubed shoulder of horse slow braised
>> with some red wine and veges........ ObFood.

>
> You can have my share.


While I disagree with "there's nothing better," I will say that horse meat
is some very good stuff. I know many people whose upbringing makes them
opposed to it, but I don't think eating horse is any more immoral than
eating pork.

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> ChattyCathy wrote:
>
>>> There's nothing better than a cubed shoulder of horse slow braised
>>> with some red wine and veges........ ObFood.

>>
>> You can have my share.

>
> While I disagree with "there's nothing better," I will say that horse
> meat is some very good stuff. I know many people whose upbringing
> makes them opposed to it, but I don't think eating horse is any more
> immoral than eating pork.


Did I say it was immoral to eat horse meat? Must have missed that post.

FWIW, horse meat just doesn't appeal to me - or cabbage - blech.

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>>>> There's nothing better than a cubed shoulder of horse slow braised
>>>> with some red wine and veges........ ObFood.
>>>
>>> You can have my share.

>>
>> While I disagree with "there's nothing better," I will say that horse
>> meat is some very good stuff. I know many people whose upbringing
>> makes them opposed to it, but I don't think eating horse is any more
>> immoral than eating pork.

>
> Did I say it was immoral to eat horse meat? Must have missed that post.
>
> FWIW, horse meat just doesn't appeal to me - or cabbage - blech.



Sorry, I was generalizing; I didn't mean to refer to any particular person
with that second sentence. What do you dislike about horse meat?

(Also, "I know you said you don't like cabbage, but that's because you
haven't had cabbage the way that *I* make it...") :-)

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> So now I am sitting at home, taking it easy and taking pain killers,
> extra strength Tylenol and Ibuprophen and Ibuprophen and Tylenol 3 to
> sleep.


Dave, I'm just happy you're not hurt worse. I'm sure you're not
happy right now, but you'll be feeling better.

Follow the dosing instructions with the Tylenol.

> The worst part is that I am going to have to consider giving up riding
> lessons. I broke my collar bone 6 years ago but went back to lessons
> when that healed and thought that I could keep doing it as long as
> there were no more injuries. Now I have broken a second bone, and I
> am getting close to 60.
> :-(


Eh, you could get hurt tripping on your rocking chair. I say don't
give it up.

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> ChattyCathy wrote:
>
>>>>> There's nothing better than a cubed shoulder of horse slow braised
>>>>> with some red wine and veges........ ObFood.
>>>>
>>>> You can have my share.
>>>
>>> While I disagree with "there's nothing better," I will say that
>>> horse meat is some very good stuff. I know many people whose
>>> upbringing makes them opposed to it, but I don't think eating horse
>>> is any more immoral than eating pork.

>>
>> Did I say it was immoral to eat horse meat? Must have missed that
>> post.
>>
>> FWIW, horse meat just doesn't appeal to me - or cabbage - blech.

>
>
> Sorry, I was generalizing; I didn't mean to refer to any particular
> person with that second sentence. What do you dislike about horse
> meat?


Bought a couple of (mystery) meat pies from some deli when I was a
teenager. I took a few bites which tasted more than awful to me, so I
was going to chuck 'em. However, my Dad (who has a thing about wasting
food, any food) said he'd have a taste first - and then informed me
that said pies tasted like horse meat pies, and ate them anyway... He
didn't die or even get a stomach ache, but it put me off horse meat for
life.
>
> (Also, "I know you said you don't like cabbage, but that's because you
> haven't had cabbage the way that *I* make it...") :-)


<snork>

Are you sure you're not related to my Dad's side of the family somehow?
He's been trying to get me to eat his 'special' cabbage for decades. I
take a bite or two every now and again to appease him - but nothing
changes; he's been eating my share for every one of those decades...

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> Well bummer and more! Please don't let a broken rib keep you from
> enjoying what you like, er, after it heals that is When walking
> down/up the street, anyone could've just as easily tripped on a curb and
> done the same thing, perhaps? I wish you good luck and a speedy
> recovery.
>
> Sky, who's had quite a few broken bones over the years
>


Sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. No matter how careful
and how skillful you might be, sometimes there simply no compensating
for the fact that a horse is basically a thousand pounds of stupid.
When our orthopedic vet heard that my daughter wanted to specialize in
large animals he cleared his throat, shuffled his feet and then said,
"Listen, I know you're not going to want to hear this, but of the class
I graduated with, of all the guys who went into large animal practice,
not one of them is still with it after 15 years. Just saying..."

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>
> I used to ride once every year or two and fell off so often that I
> assumed that was part of the deal. I have been taking lessons for the
> last 6 years and had not fallen for more than two years. Only got hurt a
> few times falling, but broken collar bone and rib are painful enough to
> make me reconsider equestrian jumping at my age.
>


You can still ride, can't you, without jumping. I'd modify before
deciding to give it up completely if you really love it.

In my mid 60's I still ski, just not on the same slopes and a bit
slower than I did 20 years ago. (Didn't really start until I was 40,
old enough to develop some coordination.) ;-)

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> I can understand. I fell and sprained my right rotator cuff not too
> long ago and it's causing me a lot of pain issues, altho' Airrosti is
> helping it to heal a lot faster than it normally would.
>
> The clavicle being part of the shoulder girdle, I can bet it hurt one
> HELL of a lot! I'm betting you had trouble sleeping...



I have damaged both rotators over the years, and at the time I figured
that was the most painful injury I had ever suffered. Accidentally
moving the arm would cause a blast of searing pain that will bring tears
to your eyes, but that severe pain only lasted for a few days and then
it was just stiff and sore for a long time. The collar bone ranks right
up there in pain, maybe even a little worse, and it lasted a lot longer.

The only way I slept with the collar bone was with Oxycontin at bedtime
and another one around 4 am after waking up in pain. I had to sleep on
my back, which I can't do unless under heavy duty medication.

The fractured rib is nowhere near as painful as the collarbone, except
that it also requires that I sleep on my back. The Tylenol 3 at bedtime
allows me to sleep through the night. Then it is time for the extra
strength Tylenol and Ibuprophen combination as soon as I get up.
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> On 2009-09-02, Dave Smith > wrote:
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>> I never broke a bone until I was 52 and got thrown over a jump.

>
> One of the reasons I quit riding a motorcycle full time. My likewise
> ex-motorcycling buddy said it best. "I don't bounce worth a damn,
> anymore."


I ride a motorcycle too. My older brother gave me a big tut tut,
suggesting that after breaking bones on two different occasions I should
not wait until the third one because it could be more serious. Good
advice coming from someone who has had two motorcycle accidents himself.
He broke a rib the last time. Curious that eh thinks I should quit
riding horses but sees no problem with himself still riding a motorcycle.
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> Note that Tylenol must never be combined with alcohol.
> It causes liver failure.



It *can*, not that it always does.
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