I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most used and
liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what I'm using isnt the
best.

Thanks for your help/input

On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:22:07 -0700, "madis"
> wrote:

>I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most used and
>liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what I'm using isnt the
>best.
>
>Thanks for your help/input


I have been using Mastercook since Version 3. I am now on Version 9.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

On 2009-10-02, madis > wrote:
> I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most used and
> liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what I'm using isnt the
> best.

emacs

nb

madis wrote:
> I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most used
> and liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what I'm using
> isnt the best.
>
> Thanks for your help/input


I use "wordpad" and generally store then as .rtf files. Some of my
older files are in .txt format, but I prefer to use a *little* bit of
formatting (like bold titles)

Bob

On Oct 2, 1:25*pm, notbob > wrote:
> On 2009-10-02, madis > wrote:
>
> > I want to enter my recipes into a program. *Which one is the most used and
> > liked? *I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what I'm using isnt the
> > best.
>
> emacs

You've got me beat. If I find something on the Web, I usually cut and
paste it into Wordpad, so that I can expand the font to something that
my husband can read without his glasses. Then I print it, take it
home,
and stick it in a three-ring binder.

If I want to put something on my web site, I use vi. Boldface is
overrated.

Cindy Hamilton

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
On Oct 2, 1:25 pm, notbob > wrote:
> On 2009-10-02, madis > wrote:
>
> > I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most used
> > and
> > liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what I'm using isnt
> > the
> > best.
>
> emacs

You've got me beat. If I find something on the Web, I usually cut and
paste it into Wordpad, so that I can expand the font to something that
my husband can read without his glasses. Then I print it, take it
home,
and stick it in a three-ring binder.

If I want to put something on my web site, I use vi. Boldface is
overrated.

Cindy Hamilton

........

I have a lot of clippings in binders and wordpad files on different
computers thought it wold help to put the favorites all in a program guess I
will try master cook.

zxcvbob wrote on Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:05:30 -0500:

> madis wrote:
>> I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most
>> used and liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I
>> find out what I'm using isnt the best.
>>
>> Thanks for your help/input

> I use "wordpad" and generally store then as .rtf files. Some of my
> older files are in .txt format, but I prefer to use a
> *little* bit of formatting (like bold titles)

I use MS Word. I have a folder called simply Food with a sub-folder
called Tested where I move recipes I have liked. I don't use anything
much more complicated because I seldom find myself asking what can I
make with what I've got. I keep notes on how to cook things and also
general notes like Chilis in Tested.

I don't format recipes much until they go into Tested. This has several
sub-sub-folders for categories that I find useful. The recipes in Food
may be copied from news groups, copied or down-loaded from the Web or
sometimes scanned and run thro OCR. I find a downloaded freeby program
called PureText very useful for removing ads, creative decorations and
peculiar fonts when the web page does not have a Print button to get an
undecorated version.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On 2009-10-02, madis > wrote:

> You've got me beat. If I find something on the Web, I usually cut and
> paste it into Wordpad....

heh heh....

Wordpad is Window's little known secret gem. Most folks go for the
full blown Word or the ultra-handy notepad (toggle wrap). I
discovered wordpad is da bomb! Handles ascii .txt files properly. I
used to open linux/unix .txt files from software hackers, their
braggin' page, in n/p or word and they were jest text garbage. No
formatting at all. I discovered it you opened 'em in wordpad, they
were formatted as intended, the text and ascii art parsed and rendered
perfectly. It writes and formats ascii properly, too.

nb

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:22:07 -0700, madis wrote:

> I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most used
> and liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what I'm using
> isnt the best.

I use Gourmet Recipe Manager running on Linux



--
Cameron Moore
St Petersburg, FL

madis wrote:
> I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most used
> and liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what I'm using
> isnt the best.
>
> Thanks for your help/input

master Cook. I started with it in 1995 with a version that came on a set
of diskettes. You remember those little square things that went into a
slot in the computer?

I'm on my 3rd version which is V.7 I never went any higher because V.8
is buggy and V.9 has gadgets that work with Microsoft's Internet
Explorer which I do not use.

I love Master Cook. I also like the Mastercook Discussion group on
Yahoo! Groups that knows all the ins and outs of the software. One of
the fellows on that group developed a free tool for grabbing recipes off
a lot of internet sites directly into the cookbook. It works with
Mozilla Firefox.

Anyway, I love my Master Cook and I don't know what I'd do without it.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

> On Fri 02 Oct 2009 10:22:07a, madis told us...
>
>> I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most
>> used and liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what
>> I'm using isnt the best.
>>
>> Thanks for your help/input

I use Master Cook 6, formerly owned by Sierra. Don't want to buy an
update, since I can't transfer the recipes to the newer versions.
They're not compatible with the Sierra versions.

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
...
> madis wrote:
>> I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most used
>> and liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what I'm using
>> isnt the best.
>>
>> Thanks for your help/input
>
> master Cook. I started with it in 1995 with a version that came on a set
> of diskettes. You remember those little square things that went into a
> slot in the computer?
>
> I'm on my 3rd version which is V.7 I never went any higher because V.8 is
> buggy and V.9 has gadgets that work with Microsoft's Internet Explorer
> which I do not use.
>
> I love Master Cook. I also like the Mastercook Discussion group on Yahoo!
> Groups that knows all the ins and outs of the software. One of the
> fellows on that group developed a free tool for grabbing recipes off a lot
> of internet sites directly into the cookbook. It works with Mozilla
> Firefox.
>
> Anyway, I love my Master Cook and I don't know what I'd do without it.
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Me too.

Dora wrote:
>
>> On Fri 02 Oct 2009 10:22:07a, madis told us...
>>
>>> I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most
>>> used and liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what
>>> I'm using isnt the best.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help/input
>
> I use Master Cook 6, formerly owned by Sierra. Don't want to buy an
> update, since I can't transfer the recipes to the newer versions.
> They're not compatible with the Sierra versions.

I was able to copy my recipes from the earliest version I had, which was
maybe V.2 to V.5 then to V.7 with no problems.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:22:07 -0700, "madis"
> wrote:

>I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most used and
>liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what I'm using isnt the
>best.
>
>Thanks for your help/input

MasterCook seems to be the most used program for recipes. May or may
not be the best, but it sure ranks up near the top.

Ron Kelley

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:48:20 -0500, Janet Wilder
> wrote:

>master Cook. I started with it in 1995 with a version that came on a set
>of diskettes. You remember those little square things that went into a
>slot in the computer?
>
>I'm on my 3rd version which is V.7 I never went any higher because V.8
>is buggy and V.9 has gadgets that work with Microsoft's Internet
>Explorer which I do not use.
>
>I love Master Cook. I also like the Mastercook Discussion group on
>Yahoo! Groups that knows all the ins and outs of the software. One of
>the fellows on that group developed a free tool for grabbing recipes off
>a lot of internet sites directly into the cookbook. It works with
>Mozilla Firefox.
>
>Anyway, I love my Master Cook and I don't know what I'd do without it.


I just downloaded recipefox-0.33.xpi

Any problems I should look out for or just click on it follow the
prompts?

I am getting tired of having to go to IE to move recipes to MC.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

I'm still using MasterCook v.2.20, if you can believe it...


"madis" > wrote in message
m...
> I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most used and
> liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what I'm using isnt
> the best.
>
> Thanks for your help/input

"Ron" wrote
> "madis" wrote:

>>I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most used and
>>liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what I'm using isnt
>>the
>>best.

Madis, what operating system do you have?

> MasterCook seems to be the most used program for recipes. May or may
> not be the best, but it sure ranks up near the top.

I predate MasterCook. I use MealMaster (now freeware). It runs on DOS, all
windows versions (except with Vista you have to add DOSBox 0.73 which is
freeware), and all Unix platforms (need to run it under DOSEMU).

"grossbea" > wrote in
on Oct Sat 2009
09:42 am

> I'm still using MasterCook v.2.20, if you can believe it...
>
>
> "madis" > wrote in message
> m...
>> I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most
>> used and liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what
>> I'm using isnt the best.
>>
>> Thanks for your help/input
>
>

I like Now Your Cooking, Fast tech help response, don't have to pay for updates, updates at least
twice yearly and very user friendly plus faster search than MC.

--
Is that your nose, or are you eatting a banana? -Jimmy Durante

The Cook wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:48:20 -0500, Janet Wilder
> > wrote:
>
>> master Cook. I started with it in 1995 with a version that came on a set
>> of diskettes. You remember those little square things that went into a
>> slot in the computer?
>>
>> I'm on my 3rd version which is V.7 I never went any higher because V.8
>> is buggy and V.9 has gadgets that work with Microsoft's Internet
>> Explorer which I do not use.
>>
>> I love Master Cook. I also like the Mastercook Discussion group on
>> Yahoo! Groups that knows all the ins and outs of the software. One of
>> the fellows on that group developed a free tool for grabbing recipes off
>> a lot of internet sites directly into the cookbook. It works with
>> Mozilla Firefox.
>>
>> Anyway, I love my Master Cook and I don't know what I'd do without it.
>
>
> I just downloaded recipefox-0.33.xpi
>
> Any problems I should look out for or just click on it follow the
> prompts?
>
> I am getting tired of having to go to IE to move recipes to MC.

The tutorial is really helpful. I think you have to make sure you have
the proper version of Java. There is one older version it doesn't work
with. You need to set up that folder "work" as the directions tell you.

An easy way to see if it's working is to click on the "show the sites"
button on the tool bar that sits below the others and if you get a list
of web sites, it should be okay.

Also, go to the next to last button on the right that looks like a gear.
That's "options" click on that and uncheck the option for Living
Cookbook. If you don't do this you will get an error message. I couldn't
figure this out at first, but that's what you have to do.

Any other problems, go to the user forum at
http://recipetools.sourceforge.net/phpBB3/ for help or the Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MastercookDiscussion/

Either place will get you any assistance you need. The sourceforge
site, I believe, has the install instructions.

I love my Recipe Fox. I even have a bookmark to the .jsn files.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

l, not -l wrote:
> On 3-Oct-2009, The Cook > wrote:
>
>> I just downloaded recipefox-0.33.xpi
>>
>> Any problems I should look out for or just click on it follow the
>> prompts?
>>
>> I am getting tired of having to go to IE to move recipes to MC.
>
> Assuming you are using FireFox, you might want to look at the RecipeFox
> add-in. When it works, its a great tool; but, like many FireFox add-ins,
> when new releases of FireFox come out, it quits working. If you use a
> version of FireFox it likes, it's a nice tool.

I have heard that, but for some reason, it hasn't happened to me. I did
lose usefulness when I updated the last version of Java, not Firefox. I
found out that I had to revert to a previous update. Now the newest Java
works fine as does the newest Firefox.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Janet Wilder wrote:
> Dora wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri 02 Oct 2009 10:22:07a, madis told us...
>>>
>>>> I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most
>>>> used and liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out
>>>> what
>>>> I'm using isnt the best.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help/input
>>
>> I use Master Cook 6, formerly owned by Sierra. Don't want to buy
>> an
>> update, since I can't transfer the recipes to the newer versions.
>> They're not compatible with the Sierra versions.
>
> I was able to copy my recipes from the earliest version I had, which
> was maybe V.2 to V.5 then to V.7 with no problems.

Well, I'll be darned. After the switchover from Sierra to the new
company (forget the name), two women set up a site to help with any
problems connected with the changeover. They assured everyone that
v.6 couldn't be converted to v.7 and above because of the new
ownership. I'm a trusting soul so took their word for it, not
wanting to louse up what I had stored (too many precious r.f.c.
recipes!). So long ago now that I don't have their site.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> "Ron" wrote
>> "madis" wrote:
>
>>>I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most used
>>>and
>>>liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what I'm using isnt
>>>the
>>>best.
>
> Madis, what operating system do you have?
>
>> MasterCook seems to be the most used program for recipes. May or may
>> not be the best, but it sure ranks up near the top.
>
> I predate MasterCook. I use MealMaster (now freeware). It runs on DOS,
> all windows versions (except with Vista you have to add DOSBox 0.73 which
> is freeware), and all Unix platforms (need to run it under DOSEMU).
>
>
I use Vista. I'm trying mastercook 9 seems to be very comprehensive. Will
take me a while to figure it out though and how best to convert my recipes
to it. Not likely i'm going to learn linux or dos at this point.

"madis" wrote
> "cshenk" wrote

>>>>I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most used

>> Madis, what operating system do you have?
> I use Vista. I'm trying mastercook 9 seems to be very comprehensive.
> Will take me a while to figure it out though and how best to convert my
> recipes to it. Not likely i'm going to learn linux or dos at this point.

Grin, MasterCook works well enough then. (MM is better in many ways and
easier but you'd have to use DOSBox).

Here's a sample of a simple recipe you can make in 3 mins plus nuke warm for
about 2 mins and eat.

---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Almost Instant (Secret) Broccoli Soup
Categories: Soups, Stews
Yield: 1 Servings

Left over or freshly cooked
Broccoli
1 cn Mushroom soup
Milk -- as desired
Salt and Pepper

Remove tiny tops of flowered ends of broccoli and save. Dump remaining
stems into blender. Add soup, some milk, salt and pepper. Blend. Garnish
with saved tops. Heat and serve.

Recipe By : BJanson

From: Ladies Home Journal- August 1991

File ftp://ftp.idiscover.co.uk/pub/food/m...s/mmdja006.zip

-----

And here's one with more fancy ingredients:


---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Iroquois Soup
Categories: Soups, Ilink, Cyberealm
Yield: 4 Servings

4 ea Large mushrooms, sliced
2 ea 10 1/2 oz cans beef consomme
2 tb Yellow corn meal
2 tb Minced parsley
1 cl Garlic, crushed
1/2 ts Basil
1 ea Onion, thinly sliced
Fresh ground pepper, dash
1/4 ts Salt
Haddock fillets, 12 oz
10 oz Baby lima beans
1/3 c Dry sherry (optional)

Place the mushrooms, consomme, corn meal, parsley, garlic, basil, onion,
pepper and salt in a large saucepan, and simmer, uncovered, for 10
minutes.
Add haddock, lima beans, and sherry and simmer 20 minutes, stirring
occasionally, breaking haddock into bite-sized pieces. Serve hot.

The Iroquois were blessed with clear, cool lakes and sparkling streams,
and
both served up an abundance of fish. Fish soup, or u'nega'gei, as the
Iroquois called it, was a favorite. One early recipe is described, "Fish
of any kind is boiled in a pot with a quantity of water. It is then
removed
and coarse corn siftings stirred in to make a soup of suitable
consistency." When wild onions and greens were available, they were
usually tossed into the soup pot, adding both color and flavor.

From: The Art of American Indian Cooking by Yeffe Kimball and Jean
Anderson, Avon Books, New York, NY, 1965.

Posted by Loren Martin, Cyberealm BBS Watertown, NY 315-786-1120 In ILink
Cuisine Conference

-----

On Oct 2, 9:22 pm, Ron > wrote:
>
> MasterCook seems to be the most used program for recipes. May or may
> not be the best, but it sure ranks up near the top.
>
I don't use it but this does seem to be the case based on responses in
this thread. They leave unanswered the crucial question that keeps me
from using any such software. Then again, it's a hardware issue, I
guess. Namely, what do I do with the kitchen drawer that is full of
clippings from newspapers and magazines and typed pages of recipes?
Not to mention all the writings in the margins of cookbooks? -aem

Notepad

> Subject: Kansas City Chili
> Date: Friday, February 18, 2000 11:12 PM
>
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:27:00 -0800, eromlignod
> > wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I have been following this newsgroup for a month or so and have
>>asked and answered questions a few times, but it occured to me
>>that I have never posted a recipe. Forgive me. Here is one I
>>developed myself and that won an award here in Kansas City a few
>>years ago. If anyone tries it, let me know what you think.
>>
>>Don's Chili
>>
>>1 lb. ground chuck
>>1 lb. ground pork
>>2 large yellow onions, chopped
>>2 cloves garlic, minced
>>3 16 oz. cans red beans, include liquid
>>2 4 oz. cans chopped green chilis
>>1 15 oz. can tomato sauce
>>1 cup beef broth (about)
>>3 tbs cumin
>>4 oz. dried whole New Mexico chilis, remove stems, cut up with
>>scissors, include seeds
>>1 bay leaf
>>1 tsp oregano
>>1/2 tsp black pepper
>>1 tsp salt
>>2 tbs terragon vinegar
>>1/2 tsp Tabasco sauce
>>1 tbs ground red pepper (more if you want to turn up the heat)
>>1/4 cup olive oil
>>
>>Sautee onions and garlic in oil in a large pot until onions are
>>clear. Meanwhile put cut-up peppers and broth in a blender and
>>puree into a dark brown paste. Add meat to onions and break
>>up. When meat is browned add chili paste and cumin and cook 2
>>more minutes. Add remaining ingredients and simmer for one hour.
>>
>>Enjoy!
>>
> reads well- book marked for review. Thank you
> Harry Demidavicius
>





--
Dave S

In article > ,
"madis" > wrote:

> I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most used and
> liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what I'm using isnt the
> best.
>
> Thanks for your help/input

I'm on a Mac, and I use MacGourmet.

jt

On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:09:24 -0700 (PDT), aem >
wrote:

>On Oct 2, 9:22 pm, Ron > wrote:
>>
>> MasterCook seems to be the most used program for recipes. May or may
>> not be the best, but it sure ranks up near the top.
>>
>I don't use it but this does seem to be the case based on responses in
>this thread. They leave unanswered the crucial question that keeps me
>from using any such software. Then again, it's a hardware issue, I
>guess. Namely, what do I do with the kitchen drawer that is full of
>clippings from newspapers and magazines and typed pages of recipes?
>Not to mention all the writings in the margins of cookbooks? -aem

Well, no matter which recipe program you use, you will have to enter
recipes from clippings or magazines and the handwritten notes in the
margin of cookbooks by hand. Most recipe programs will import recipes
from other recipe programs, but I know of none that will import
directly from a scanned image of a recipe.

We use MasterCook to enter recipes we like particularly well and plan
to make again. With a bookcase full of cookbooks, it's too much
trouble to try to remember which book has a particular recipe. Also,
with MasterCook, or any recipe program, it's easy to make changes as
you adjust the recipe to your taste, and you end up with a clean copy
if you want to print out a page. The search and sort functions are
also very useful.

True, it's a convenience not a necessity. And it would be quite a
task to type in a drawer full of clippings and typed pages of recipes.
Depends on how patient you are and how many you try to type in at one
sitting. :-)

Ron Kelley

In article >,
"l, not -l" > wrote:

> On 3-Oct-2009, The Cook > wrote:
>
> > I just downloaded recipefox-0.33.xpi
> >
> > Any problems I should look out for or just click on it follow the
> > prompts?
> >
> > I am getting tired of having to go to IE to move recipes to MC.
>
> Assuming you are using FireFox, you might want to look at the RecipeFox
> add-in. When it works, its a great tool; but, like many FireFox add-ins,
> when new releases of FireFox come out, it quits working. If you use a
> version of FireFox it likes, it's a nice tool.

MacGourmet can use OS X "services" to input recipes from most sources,
but Firefox doesn't do services. I just keep MacGourmet's "Clippings"
window open behind Firefox, highlight a recipe, and drag it over to M-G.
Would that work with MasterCook? Or if not drag-n-drop, how about
highlight-copy-paste?

Isaac

In article >,
Ron > wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:22:07 -0700, "madis"
> > wrote:
>
> >I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most used and
> >liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what I'm using isnt the
> >best.
> >
> >Thanks for your help/input
>
> MasterCook seems to be the most used program for recipes. May or may
> not be the best, but it sure ranks up near the top.

I used MC for years, and hated it most of that time, but it was pretty
much the only thing available; there were just so many things it did
poorly or not at all. I've been using MacGourmet for over three years
now, and it's way better. Moving over four thousand recipes was not a
lot of fun, though...

Isaac

In article
>,
aem > wrote:

> On Oct 2, 9:22 pm, Ron > wrote:
> >
> > MasterCook seems to be the most used program for recipes. May or may
> > not be the best, but it sure ranks up near the top.
> >
> I don't use it but this does seem to be the case based on responses in
> this thread. They leave unanswered the crucial question that keeps me
> from using any such software. Then again, it's a hardware issue, I
> guess. Namely, what do I do with the kitchen drawer that is full of
> clippings from newspapers and magazines and typed pages of recipes?

Get a scanner with a good OCR package. That has worked out very nicely
for me. I continue to be amazed at how well it works, even for poor
quality sources.

> Not to mention all the writings in the margins of cookbooks?

Well, that's a problem. Unless your writing is a whole lot neater than
mine, the OCR will choke on it for sure.

One reason I want to have all the "good" recipes in a database on the
'puter is so I can easily share them (one click e-mail), and also make
sure that each of my kids gets copies of all the ones they like. A few
years after I'd left home, my mom gave me a loose-leaf notebook holding
dozens of family recipes. For years, whenever I'd call to ask how to
prepare something, she'd tell me and then a few days later, the mail
would bring another page for that notebook. I want to do the same for my
kids, but I'm not about to hand write that much stuff (my mom made three
copies, one for each of her kids).

Isaac

In article >,
Dave S > wrote:

> Notepad

There are a lot of problems trying to use any sort of text editor or
word processor for recipes.

For entering single recipes, they're OK; where they fail (as do
"standard" database programs) is handling a recipe collection,
especially one of any size.

None of them understand the difference between an ingredient and a
procedure. None can handle categories well (cheese, beans, Italian, main
dish, appetizer, starch, crockpot, ...). None can do effective searches
through a collection of recipes. None understand linking recipes (every
recipe that calls for, say, Bernaise sauce linking to the Bernaise
recipe), which is also useful in reverse: "I really want some Bernaise
sauce; what can I pour it over?" And on and on.

Isaac

isw wrote:
> In article >,
> Dave S > wrote:
>
>> Notepad
>
> There are a lot of problems trying to use any sort of text editor or
> word processor for recipes.
>
> For entering single recipes, they're OK; where they fail (as do
> "standard" database programs) is handling a recipe collection,
> especially one of any size.
>
> None of them understand the difference between an ingredient and a
> procedure. None can handle categories well (cheese, beans, Italian, main
> dish, appetizer, starch, crockpot, ...). None can do effective searches
> through a collection of recipes. None understand linking recipes (every
> recipe that calls for, say, Bernaise sauce linking to the Bernaise
> recipe), which is also useful in reverse: "I really want some Bernaise
> sauce; what can I pour it over?" And on and on.
>
> Isaac


I use my *brain* to handle the understanding part. I'm not being
sarcastic. The recipe files just hold the detailed information in a
sharable format. The categories are handled by having 5 or 6
directories (folders). If a recipe fits in more than one category, you
can create symbolic links (shortcuts).

Bob

On Oct 3, 9:10 pm, isw > wrote:
[snips]
> One reason I want to have all the "good" recipes in a database on the
> 'puter is so I can easily share them (one click e-mail), and also make
> sure that each of my kids gets copies of all the ones they like. [snip]

That's a good point and an admirable ambition. I always marvel at
well-organized people. It's doubtful that I'll ever want to organize
recipes that well but more power to those who do. For me and mine,
I've always tried to teach/demonstrate the hows and whys of cooking
rather than focusing on recipes. -aem

Dora wrote:
> Janet Wilder wrote:
>> Dora wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri 02 Oct 2009 10:22:07a, madis told us...
>>>>
>>>>> I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most
>>>>> used and liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what
>>>>> I'm using isnt the best.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help/input
>>>
>>> I use Master Cook 6, formerly owned by Sierra. Don't want to buy an
>>> update, since I can't transfer the recipes to the newer versions.
>>> They're not compatible with the Sierra versions.
>>
>> I was able to copy my recipes from the earliest version I had, which
>> was maybe V.2 to V.5 then to V.7 with no problems.
>
> Well, I'll be darned. After the switchover from Sierra to the new
> company (forget the name), two women set up a site to help with any
> problems connected with the changeover. They assured everyone that v.6
> couldn't be converted to v.7 and above because of the new ownership.
> I'm a trusting soul so took their word for it, not wanting to louse up
> what I had stored (too many precious r.f.c. recipes!). So long ago now
> that I don't have their site.

Try the Yahoo Group. They seem to have all the answers.

I do recall having problems with the earlier versions if I did not save
the recipes on a diskette. I always had to have a computer that used
diskettes or I couldn't transfer them. I can get them off of a CD now.
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Way-the-heck-south Texas
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isw wrote:
> In article >,
> Dave S > wrote:
>
>> Notepad
>
> There are a lot of problems trying to use any sort of text editor or
> word processor for recipes.
>
> For entering single recipes, they're OK; where they fail (as do
> "standard" database programs) is handling a recipe collection,
> especially one of any size.
>
> None of them understand the difference between an ingredient and a
> procedure. None can handle categories well (cheese, beans, Italian, main
> dish, appetizer, starch, crockpot, ...). None can do effective searches
> through a collection of recipes. None understand linking recipes (every
> recipe that calls for, say, Bernaise sauce linking to the Bernaise
> recipe), which is also useful in reverse: "I really want some Bernaise
> sauce; what can I pour it over?" And on and on.
>
> Isaac

I dunno. I can search for a single recipe throughout my cook book
collection on Master cook. I can even enter an item like "chicken
breasts" and it will find me recipes in several cookbooks.

As far as linking the sauce, Mastercook has the ability to "embed" a
recipe in another recipe. If I want to make asparagus with hollandaise
sauce, I can embed the sauce recipe into the asparagus recipe. I
consider that as a link. Maybe others do not.

Mastercook has many tricks and most people aren't aware of them. I am
still learning some of the tricks and I've had the program in 3 versions
for over 14 years.

--
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Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

zxcvbob wrote:
> isw wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Dave S > wrote:
>>
>>> Notepad
>>
>> There are a lot of problems trying to use any sort of text editor or
>> word processor for recipes.
>>
>> For entering single recipes, they're OK; where they fail (as do
>> "standard" database programs) is handling a recipe collection,
>> especially one of any size.
>>
>> None of them understand the difference between an ingredient and a
>> procedure. None can handle categories well (cheese, beans, Italian,
>> main dish, appetizer, starch, crockpot, ...). None can do effective
>> searches through a collection of recipes. None understand linking
>> recipes (every recipe that calls for, say, Bernaise sauce linking to
>> the Bernaise recipe), which is also useful in reverse: "I really want
>> some Bernaise sauce; what can I pour it over?" And on and on.
>>
>> Isaac
>
>
> I use my *brain* to handle the understanding part. I'm not being
> sarcastic. The recipe files just hold the detailed information in a
> sharable format. The categories are handled by having 5 or 6
> directories (folders). If a recipe fits in more than one category, you
> can create symbolic links (shortcuts).
>
> Bob
>

I have 39 cookbooks in my Mastercook collection. You can put as many
catagories in each cookbook as you wish and you can put a recipe into as
many categories as you wish. You can also add "cuisine"

I can have a recipe for a veggie casserole that will be under the
casserole and one-dish meal, vegetarian, vegetable, pasta and rice, and
then in cuisine such as Italian or Mexican. I even have a cuisine called
pot luck so I can go there and find pot luck suitable recipes if I want.

--
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Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

madis wrote:
>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Ron" wrote
>>> "madis" wrote:
>>
>>>> I want to enter my recipes into a program. Which one is the most
>>>> used and
>>>> liked? I dont want to have to redo it if I find out what I'm using
>>>> isnt the
>>>> best.
>>
>> Madis, what operating system do you have?
>>
>>> MasterCook seems to be the most used program for recipes. May or may
>>> not be the best, but it sure ranks up near the top.
>>
>> I predate MasterCook. I use MealMaster (now freeware). It runs on
>> DOS, all windows versions (except with Vista you have to add DOSBox
>> 0.73 which is freeware), and all Unix platforms (need to run it under
>> DOSEMU).
>>
>>
> I use Vista. I'm trying mastercook 9 seems to be very comprehensive.
> Will take me a while to figure it out though and how best to convert my
> recipes to it. Not likely i'm going to learn linux or dos at this point.

The Yahoo Group has a file for converting recipes. I don't remember what
it's called or even if the free ware is even still available, but if you
ask on that forum, someone will be able to help you.

I have found that the "tool" called "import assistant" is very helpful
for adding text recipes. You do a "copy" of your text recipe then paste
it into "import assistant" If the recipe is formatted properly, it's a
one-button operation. If not, you can make the changes (usually line
spacing) in the assistant then import over the sections one at a time.

I have recipes that I have gotten here or even on non-recipe fox
compatible web sites that I just copy and paste to the "import
assistant" and pop them right into my cookbooks.

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Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

aem wrote:
> On Oct 2, 9:22 pm, Ron > wrote:
>> MasterCook seems to be the most used program for recipes. May or may
>> not be the best, but it sure ranks up near the top.
>>
> I don't use it but this does seem to be the case based on responses in
> this thread. They leave unanswered the crucial question that keeps me
> from using any such software. Then again, it's a hardware issue, I
> guess. Namely, what do I do with the kitchen drawer that is full of
> clippings from newspapers and magazines and typed pages of recipes?
> Not to mention all the writings in the margins of cookbooks? -aem
>

You get a decent OCR program and scan them into a word processing
program then copy and paste into Mastercook. I've done entire
cookbooks. Work, but worth it.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

isw wrote:
> In article >,
> "l, not -l" > wrote:
>
>> On 3-Oct-2009, The Cook > wrote:
>>
>>> I just downloaded recipefox-0.33.xpi
>>>
>>> Any problems I should look out for or just click on it follow the
>>> prompts?
>>>
>>> I am getting tired of having to go to IE to move recipes to MC.
>> Assuming you are using FireFox, you might want to look at the RecipeFox
>> add-in. When it works, its a great tool; but, like many FireFox add-ins,
>> when new releases of FireFox come out, it quits working. If you use a
>> version of FireFox it likes, it's a nice tool.
>
> MacGourmet can use OS X "services" to input recipes from most sources,
> but Firefox doesn't do services. I just keep MacGourmet's "Clippings"
> window open behind Firefox, highlight a recipe, and drag it over to M-G.
> Would that work with MasterCook? Or if not drag-n-drop, how about
> highlight-copy-paste?
>
> Isaac

Copy and paste works perfectly using Mastercook's "import assisntant" tool.

--
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Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Janet Wilder > wrote in news:0044c88b$0$32521$c3e8da3
@news.astraweb.com on Oct Sun 2009 02:22 pm

> zxcvbob wrote:
>> isw wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> Dave S > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Notepad
>>>
>>> There are a lot of problems trying to use any sort of text editor or
>>> word processor for recipes.
>>>
>>> For entering single recipes, they're OK; where they fail (as do
>>> "standard" database programs) is handling a recipe collection,
>>> especially one of any size.
>>>
>>> None of them understand the difference between an ingredient and a
>>> procedure. None can handle categories well (cheese, beans, Italian,
>>> main dish, appetizer, starch, crockpot, ...). None can do effective
>>> searches through a collection of recipes. None understand linking
>>> recipes (every recipe that calls for, say, Bernaise sauce linking to
>>> the Bernaise recipe), which is also useful in reverse: "I really want
>>> some Bernaise sauce; what can I pour it over?" And on and on.
>>>
>>> Isaac
>>
>>
>> I use my *brain* to handle the understanding part. I'm not being
>> sarcastic. The recipe files just hold the detailed information in a
>> sharable format. The categories are handled by having 5 or 6
>> directories (folders). If a recipe fits in more than one category, you
>> can create symbolic links (shortcuts).
>>
>> Bob
>>
>
> I have 39 cookbooks in my Mastercook collection. You can put as many
> catagories in each cookbook as you wish and you can put a recipe into as
> many categories as you wish. You can also add "cuisine"
>
> I can have a recipe for a veggie casserole that will be under the
> casserole and one-dish meal, vegetarian, vegetable, pasta and rice, and
> then in cuisine such as Italian or Mexican. I even have a cuisine called
> pot luck so I can go there and find pot luck suitable recipes if I want.
>

I can do that with my NYC recipe software as well. I also have NYC cookbooks that tell me the
page, Book title, Author and any notes I've made from my paper cookbooks. I do this to recipes
that sounded good when I read them but haven't tried yet or don't feel I need to make a full
database copy.

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